[LUTE] Re: Ownership
Carl, Congratulations on the litter, and for taking in the stray. I note that the expected comments on lute string supplies have come in. My one cat (the vet calls her dilute tortoise shell, I call her muddy grey) is a feral refugee. Born in a friend's garage with littermates, but then taken back to the woods by her mother, she returned to the warmth of the garage when she was barely mobile. We took her on, but now I don't dare type or speak the word cat gut (except that at the moment she is not looking over my shoulder as she usually is when I type). Twelve pounds of in shape feline, I don't want to argue with her. But for the list, I am getting comfortable with my first mold (a la D. van E. instructions). A few more weeks and I'll start finishing the planing of the ribs, and finally get up the guts to cut one to shape. The mold is the key, as you all know. I love David's course, and it was fully worth it. But for amateur shops I might suggest a different sequence in making the mold than he uses (no knock on his way, just that he is well practised and I've made my errors that one sees as one is in progress). Take good care of the kittens Carl, find good homes. If you are anywhere near NJ, USA we might consider a companion for our Lucky cat. You never look for a cat, you wait for it to find you. Best, Jon To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Translation of preface to El Maestro.
Hi, take a look at http://www.jarchow.com/#14-16N Best wishes Thomas Herb-- A peculiarity of that old Spanish printing is the occasional omission of m's and n's (and an accompanying vowel), with a replacement in the form of a bar above the point where they belong. If you've ever looked at old latin stuff, it's the same format. With a similar project I found a Spanish dictionary along with a Spanish-English dictionary to be helpful. Also--I found this for Italian, perhaps there is such a thing for Spanish: an extensive on-line Italian thesaurus, which helped me translate some vocab not in my dictionary to words I could find. Good luck, and have fun, Leonard Williams On 9/19/05 11:28 AM, quot;Herbert Wardquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: gt; gt; Hello. Anyone know where to get a translation of the gt; text/preface/instructions in Luis Milan's quot;El Maestroquot;? gt; gt; I've tried Goog searches several times, but without gt; much sucess. gt; gt; I had three years of high school Spanish. But they gt; do not fare well against the complex and old-fashioned gt; Spanish in question. gt; gt; gt; gt; To get on or off this list see list information at gt; a target=_blank href=http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html;http://www.cs.dar tmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html/a
[LUTE] Re: Translation of preface to El Maestro.
Try this one: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0253210186/104-2324462- 6299106?v=glance It's Luise gassers book Luis Milan on sixteenth-century performance practice, Indiana University Press. Regards, Stephan Am 19 Sep 2005 um 10:28 hat Herbert Ward geschrieben: Hello. Anyone know where to get a translation of the text/preface/instructions in Luis Milan's El Maestro? I've tried Goog searches several times, but without much sucess. I had three years of high school Spanish. But they do not fare well against the complex and old-fashioned Spanish in question. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Goldberg VLC
On Sep 13, 2005, at 9:35 PM, Sandy Hackney wrote: I was able to hear it, but I hate to be an idiot, but how did he do it? Were both necks just responding to his finger pressure or was he plucking with left on one neck and fingering the same strings on the other? I listened only once and maybe if I looked more I would figure it out...Thank you. Sandy That is known as tapping technique and has become very popular in the last 25 years in the guitar world. Among electric guitarists Eddie Van Halen and numerous others have been visible proponents. Oh, let's not forget Stanley Jorden on the jazz front. I'm not too sure about acoustic guitarists, but I believe Windham Hill artist Michel Hedges was a pioneer in this kind of playing. Basically, there is no pluck involved in the initial attack. It's like a hammer-on but without previously sounding a note. After that, there may well be pulls and hammer-ons. My guess is that the guitar is set up especially for this technique with very low action, maybe different than usual stringing, and I don't know what else. Probably a lot of compression is used to even out the sound. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Miau, Miau, Mozart
Speaking of Cats. David is a former lute scholar, who is now writing a book on Viennese magic operas. Many of you probably know his dissertation and edition of Rhetorique des Dieux. There are two cat duets in the Singspiel, the other one earlier in Act II (Nun, liebes Weibchen), K. 625/592a. ajn - Original Message - From: Arthur Ness Newsgroups: rec.music.early Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 3:50 PM Subject: Miau, Miau, Mozart Did Mozart write any cat music? Lubano: Wo bist du lieber Schatz? Lubanara: Miau! Miau! Miau! Miau! Lubano: Ach, ach, mein Weib ist noch eine Katz. I was listening again a to a CD of the pasticcio Singspiel, Der Stein der Weisen (The Philosopher's Stone) The stone has magical powers and a socerer has used it to turn Lubano's wife into a cat. A friend of mine, David Buch, discovered the score a few years ago, and created quite a flap when he announced his discovery. It has been widely performed, and there is a CD by Boston Baroque (Telarch 80508). The liner notes tell of the discovery and original reception of the work in Vienna, one year _before_ Magic Flute. The other composers are no slouches, and singers, as well, Emmanuel Schikaneder (librettist for Magic Flute, first Papageno/Lubano), Franz Xavier Gerl (the first Sarastro/Eutifronte), Benedict Schack (first Tamino/Nadir), and Joh.Bapt. Henneberg (conductor of Magic Flute). And another predecessor of the same stripe is Wranisky's _Oberon._ The first Papagena played Lubanara. Josepha Hofer (first Queenof the Night) couldn't take a role. She was pregnant. ajn -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Curb on soundboard.
On Sep 20, 2005, at 12:35 AM, Herbert Ward wrote: Sometimes, it would be nice to know exactly how close the RH little finger is to a vibrating first course, in order to avoid unwanted damping. Why not just use the bridge? Most Baroque lutenists depicted in paintings are playing very close to the bridge and some have their finger behind it, which has the advantage of letting you slide your hand down for a low bass without lifting your little finger off the soundboard. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Goldberg VLC
In a message dated 9/20/05 1:16:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not too sure about=A0 acoustic guitarists, but I believe Windham Hill artist Michel Hedges=A0 was a pioneer in this kind of playing. He was indeed. In fact, Hedges claimed to have invented the technique. He first came to attention performing in the courtyard of the old Varsity Theater right here in Palo Alto (California). The area had been turned into a coffee shop. Both Hedges and the theater are no longer with us. Michael passed away some ten years ago, and the movie house has turned into a Borders bookstore. Peter Danner -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Goldberg VLC
He was indeed. In fact, Hedges claimed to have invented the technique. He first came to attention performing in the courtyard of the old Varsity Theater right here in Palo Alto (California). The area had been turned into a coffee shop. I do like Hedges' stuff, but that's a hard claim to make given that Arcas or Aguado (I don't recall which Spanish A name off the top of my head, but it's well-known enough to be in one of those little Noad books) were tapping a la Hedges in the 19th c. Eugene What pick-ups and amps were they using? RT ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Goldberg VLC
At 10:22 AM 9/20/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: I do like Hedges' stuff, but that's a hard claim to make given that Arcas or Aguado (I don't recall which Spanish A name off the top of my head, but it's well-known enough to be in one of those little Noad books) were tapping a la Hedges in the 19th c. Eugene What pick-ups and amps were they using? I believe either Arcas or Aguado could claim to have invented unplugged over a century before MTV. They were hardcore at it too, wholly shunning electricity rather than running their Tacoma Chiefs or Ovations through an Acoustic head. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Tapping (was Goldberg VLC)
Ed Durbrow wrote: Basically, there is no pluck involved in the initial attack. It's like a hammer-on but without previously sounding a note. After that, there may well be pulls and hammer-ons. My guess is that the guitar is set up especially for this technique with very low action, maybe different than usual stringing, and I don't know what else. Probably a lot of compression is used to even out the sound. Electric guitars usually have very low action, and there's no need to futz around with the signal. Indeed, tapping will work on a classical guitar. Celedonio Romero used to do it. Fingers pressing strings on the fretboard is the be-all and end-all of technique for The Stick, which is sort of the ultimate electric guitar. Emmet Chapman, its inventor, realized there was no real need to pluck strings on a non-acoustic instrument. You can see the ten-string, 24-fret instrument demonstrated at : http://www.stick.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] [VIHUELA] Re: jarana or xarano or ukulele
the ukulele is a european instrument, directly linked to an early tradition. its arrival in the new world is well documented and it hasn't changed a bit since. its association with hawaii is so complete that its hawaiian name is universally accepted to be its real name. Apropos of nothing, I used to run a ukulele mail list too. But it got pretty slow and I cosed it down. Now the uke action seems to be at http://www.fleamarketmusic.com/ I searched for vihuela there and did not come up with anything. There are hits for baroque and fleamarketmusic, so from this I can infer that the uke is closer to baroque guitar... Wayne To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: [VIHUELA] Re: jarana or xarano or ukulele
Does the subject line imply any relationship between the ukulele and the jarana? Best wishes Antonio --- Wayne Cripps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the ukulele is a european instrument, directly linked to an early tradition. its arrival in the new world is well documented and it hasn't changed a bit since. its association with hawaii is so complete that its hawaiian name is universally accepted to be its real name. Apropos of nothing, I used to run a ukulele mail list too. But it got pretty slow and I cosed it down. Now the uke action seems to be at http://www.fleamarketmusic.com/ I searched for vihuela there and did not come up with anything. There are hits for baroque and fleamarketmusic, so from this I can infer that the uke is closer to baroque guitar... Wayne To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
[LUTE] Pat O'Brien address
Can someone send me Pat O'Brien's e-mail address? Thanks!! Best regards, Leonard Williams To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Ownership
--On Monday, September 19, 2005 7:03 PM -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl wrote: I don't know how this came to be an inventory of lutes and cats, but... we just took in a stray mother with a litter of 6. That's cats, not lutes. (sigh) Good news is I recently finished repairing the 13c I built, and am now building a case for it. With all those cats you'll certainly have a nice repository for extra strings for the 13c. Well, now I'm coming up with names for the little tykes, like Catline, Minikin and Chantrel (for the littlest one)... I know this is going to get me into trouble. -Carl To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Ownership
How about: Loaded, Gimped, Lyon, and Wound for cat names? ed At 06:17 PM 9/20/2005 -0600, Carl Donsbach wrote: --On Monday, September 19, 2005 7:03 PM -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl wrote: I don't know how this came to be an inventory of lutes and cats, but... we just took in a stray mother with a litter of 6. That's cats, not lutes. (sigh) Good news is I recently finished repairing the 13c I built, and am now building a case for it. With all those cats you'll certainly have a nice repository for extra strings for the 13c. Well, now I'm coming up with names for the little tykes, like Catline, Minikin and Chantrel (for the littlest one)... I know this is going to get me into trouble. -Carl To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: (218) 728-1202
