[LUTE] Re: So dolce e il tormento for voice+lute
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Omer Katzirkome...@gmail.com wrote: I saw a video of this piece @ YouTube (can't link right now but it's there) with nice lute intro. Does anyone know where I can find tabs for this piece? I found the voice part with google, but nothing for lute that I could find. It's on the choralwiki with a written out continuo part. Ignore that and make your own. Enjoy. http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/images/sheet/mont-sid.pdf David -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So dolce e il tormento for voice+lute
David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com schrieb: I saw a video of this piece @ YouTube (can't link right now but it's there) with nice lute intro. Does anyone know where I can find tabs for this piece? I found the voice part with google, but nothing for lute that I could find. http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/images/sheet/mont-sid.pdf It's on the choralwiki with a written out continuo part. Ignore that and make your own. Enjoy. Yes, particularly as measure is wrong (G minor instead of B flat major) and all final 4-3 suspensions are left out. -- Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So dolce e il tormento for voice+lute
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Mathias Röselmathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: It's on the choralwiki with a written out continuo part. Ignore that and make your own. Enjoy. Yes, particularly as measure is wrong (G minor instead of B flat major) and all final 4-3 suspensions are left out. Which goes to show: you get what you pay for. I never checked. Thanks. David -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So dolce e il tormento for voice+lute
Mathias Rösel écrit: Yes, particularly as measure is wrong (G minor instead of B flat major) and all final 4-3 suspensions are left out. Not to mention the d sharp m. 14... Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So dolce e il tormento for voice+lute
Also the arranger seems to like extreme paralellism as witnessed by measures 1 to 4 and for instance measure 10 is also very funny. I do not know the piece but Monteverdi surely has nothing to do with this base line, let alone the continuo realisation. Who is Jorge Gaete C. anyway? Lex Op 22 jun 2009, om 11:50 heeft dc het volgende geschreven: Mathias Rösel écrit: Yes, particularly as measure is wrong (G minor instead of B flat major) and all final 4-3 suspensions are left out. Not to mention the d sharp m. 14... Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So dolce e il tormento for voice+lute
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Lex van Santelvansa...@wanadoo.nl wrote: the continuo realisation. Who is Jorge Gaete C. anyway? Someone kind enough to share his copy of some piano realisation he happens to have with us. But not someone with the knowledge or experience to make a 'proper' continuo part. What you see if what you get, which no doubt is useful to many. It's better to play these pieces from just the bass line, obviously, but usually we can distill one form editions like these, so they can be useful for us, too. David Lex Op 22 jun 2009, om 11:50 heeft dc het volgende geschreven: Mathias Rösel écrit: Yes, particularly as measure is wrong (G minor instead of B flat major) and all final 4-3 suspensions are left out. Not to mention the d sharp m. 14... Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl ***
[LUTE] Re: So dolce e il tormento for voice+lute
I haven't had the time (nor inclination) to look at it, but parallels, missing accidentals...sounds highly ' period authentic' to me! Rob 2009/6/22 David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Lex van Sante[2]lvansa...@wanadoo.nl wrote: the continuo realisation. Who is Jorge Gaete C. anyway? Someone kind enough to share his copy of some piano realisation he happens to have with us. But not someone with the knowledge or experience to make a 'proper' continuo part. What you see if what you get, which no doubt is useful to many. It's better to play these pieces from just the bass line, obviously, but usually we can distill one form editions like these, so they can be useful for us, too. David Lex Op 22 jun 2009, om 11:50 heeft dc het volgende geschreven: Mathias Roesel ecrit: Yes, particularly as measure is wrong (G minor instead of B flat major) and all final 4-3 suspensions are left out. Not to mention the d sharp m. 14... Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [5]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. mailto:lvansa...@wanadoo.nl 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 5. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
[LUTE] Re: So dolce e il tormento for voice+lute
What about Rocky Mjos' version on the Early Guitar Ning site? http://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/RockyMjos Best, Jelma On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Rob MacKillopluteplay...@googlemail.com wrote: I haven't had the time (nor inclination) to look at it, but parallels, missing accidentals...sounds highly ' period authentic' to me! Rob 2009/6/22 David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Lex van Sante[2]lvansa...@wanadoo.nl wrote: the continuo realisation. Who is Jorge Gaete C. anyway? Someone kind enough to share his copy of some piano realisation he happens to have with us. But not someone with the knowledge or experience to make a 'proper' continuo part. What you see if what you get, which no doubt is useful to many. It's better to play these pieces from just the bass line, obviously, but usually we can distill one form editions like these, so they can be useful for us, too. David Lex Op 22 jun 2009, om 11:50 heeft dc het volgende geschreven: Mathias Roesel ecrit: Yes, particularly as measure is wrong (G minor instead of B flat major) and all final 4-3 suspensions are left out. Not to mention the d sharp m. 14... Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [5]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. mailto:lvansa...@wanadoo.nl 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 5. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
[LUTE] Re: So dolce e il tormento for voice+lute
@David: Of course you are right, I didn't mean to be rude but an arrangement like this is of limited value at best. I am sure you agree with me on that. I feel that if somebody supplies us wth a realised basso continuo at least the bass line should be the original one. The bass line as given by Jorge really doesn't make any sense. Lex Op 22 jun 2009, om 13:22 heeft Jelma van Amersfoort het volgende geschreven: What about Rocky Mjos' version on the Early Guitar Ning site? http://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/RockyMjos Best, Jelma On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Rob MacKillopluteplay...@googlemail.com wrote: I haven't had the time (nor inclination) to look at it, but parallels, missing accidentals...sounds highly ' period authentic' to me! Rob 2009/6/22 David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Lex van Sante[2]lvansa...@wanadoo.nl wrote: the continuo realisation. Who is Jorge Gaete C. anyway? Someone kind enough to share his copy of some piano realisation he happens to have with us. But not someone with the knowledge or experience to make a 'proper' continuo part. What you see if what you get, which no doubt is useful to many. It's better to play these pieces from just the bass line, obviously, but usually we can distill one form editions like these, so they can be useful for us, too. David Lex Op 22 jun 2009, om 11:50 heeft dc het volgende geschreven: Mathias Roesel ecrit: Yes, particularly as measure is wrong (G minor instead of B flat major) and all final 4-3 suspensions are left out. Not to mention the d sharp m. 14... Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [5]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. mailto:lvansa...@wanadoo.nl 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 5. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
[LUTE] Re: So dolce e il tormento for voice+lute
I didn't fully understood that version. but i'm going to see everything sent from this group and see my best course of action. I think it was david who recummend something that seems logical to me. I also looked at Arto's stuff, its looks the same thing as I wrote. but i'm not sure how it will sound with a singer. I'll check the other links now. Maybe Arto's paper have the best result with some modification. On Jun 22, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Jelma van Amersfoort wrote: What about Rocky Mjos' version on the Early Guitar Ning site? http://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/RockyMjos Best, Jelma On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Rob MacKillopluteplay...@googlemail.com wrote: I haven't had the time (nor inclination) to look at it, but parallels, missing accidentals...sounds highly ' period authentic' to me! Rob 2009/6/22 David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Lex van Sante[2]lvansa...@wanadoo.nl wrote: the continuo realisation. Who is Jorge Gaete C. anyway? Someone kind enough to share his copy of some piano realisation he happens to have with us. But not someone with the knowledge or experience to make a 'proper' continuo part. What you see if what you get, which no doubt is useful to many. It's better to play these pieces from just the bass line, obviously, but usually we can distill one form editions like these, so they can be useful for us, too. David Lex Op 22 jun 2009, om 11:50 heeft dc het volgende geschreven: Mathias Roesel ecrit: Yes, particularly as measure is wrong (G minor instead of B flat major) and all final 4-3 suspensions are left out. Not to mention the d sharp m. 14... Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [5]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. mailto:lvansa...@wanadoo.nl 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 5. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
[LUTE] workshop-masterclass
I've been invited to give a lute and baroque guitar workshop in Vicenza, Italy, this coming Saturday at 10am to 12 at the conservatoty. It is open to the public, and students from Vicenza, Verona and Venice are welcome to take part. Thanks to Terrell Stone for organising it, and also Mimmo Perufo of Aquila Strings, who has invited me to perform at the 2nd ukulele festival in Vicenza that same evening. If anyone on this list will be there or Venice and would like to meet up, let me know - I'd love to meet you. Rob MacKillop -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Cantio Ruthenica LXXXVIII
Twist my arm, Dan! - http://www.torban.org/ruthenicae/images/246.pdf http://www.torban.org/ruthenicae/audio/246L.mp3 This one is called Chervena Kurochka, Bilyj Koghut ie Red Hen White Cockerel. Amitiés, RT From: Daniel Winheld dwinh...@comcast.net Roman- very nice one, thanks! Keep them coming. Dan -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: workshop-masterclass
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Rob MacKillopluteplay...@googlemail.com wrote: Aquila Strings, who has invited me to perform at the 2nd ukulele festival in Vicenza that same evening. That is one cool gig! Lucky you. Enjoy! David - will play in Slovenia in three weeks from now, anybody in the list from around there? I haven't checked the cities or venues yet, just know the dates: 6, 7 and 8 July. -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: workshop-masterclass
There are at least a half dozen lutenists in Ljubljana, tha main being Boris Sinigoj. RT From: David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com David - will play in Slovenia in three weeks from now, anybody in the list from around there? I haven't checked the cities or venues yet, just know the dates: 6, 7 and 8 July. -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
