[LUTE] Re: cat will after kind
On Aug 22, 2009, at 12:24 AM, Peter Nightingale wrote: I had always interpreted the winkers part as referring to a subtle invitation for a roll in the Ale, until I asked a British friend what he thought it meant. Much to my surprise, his response was that he thought that it was pretty crude and explained the winking as the "opening and closing of certain penetrable orifices." Naive me. I imagined winkers were blind beggars, some of whom, according to the warning, were faking it. There are a lot of words that are unfamiliar to modern speakers of English in this delightful song. I looked up nearly all of them in OED long ago, but all I got for winkers was 'one who winks'. I still have questions about some words, for example 'bowne'. Is that related to bow or bind? Women bind themselves when pregnant vs related to the shape of a bow. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [1]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp [2]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- References 1. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 2. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] concerts in Oct in Netherlands?
I will be visiting in the Netherlands in the last half of October. I'd like to find concerts that might be feasible to attend while I'm there. Can anybody point me to a web site for such listings? Or know of anything in the vicinity of Delft in late October? Thanks. Suzanne -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: cat will after kind
In our constant efforts to make the past seem less alien than it really is, we moderns take gleeful delight in finding sexual references in all possible places. (Note: "all possible places" is not meant to be taken sexually. "Taken sexually" is also not meant to be taken sexually.) But isn't it just so much fun for us to contemplate (hee-hee!) that those silly ancients actually HAD and USED genitalia??? Afterall, "cat will after kind." Chris --- On Fri, 8/21/09, vance wood wrote: > From: vance wood > Subject: [LUTE] Re: cat will after kind > To: "Lute List >" > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 4:20 PM > We tend to think we have a monopoly > on crude, lascivious behavior with our > on line porn, lose moral pop songs and television > programs. Such is not the > case. This is not the first time we have run across > female genital > references such and My Lady Hunsdon's Puff. There are > those who believe > that the word intended here is not puff but puss. I > remember a madrigal I > heard some time ago, the title and author of which I now > cannot remember, > but the multi voicing was constructed in such a way that at > certain points > in the composition the disparate voicing came together to > make the phrase > tickle her taint. > - Original Message - > From: "Peter Nightingale" > To: "lute" > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:24 AM > Subject: [LUTE] cat will after kind > > > > Dear Luters, > > > > The lyrics of Watkins Ale contains this: > > cat will after kind, > > all winkers are not blind > > > > I had always interpreted the winkers part as referring > to a subtle > > invitation for a roll in the Ale, until I asked a > British friend what he > > thought it meant. Much to my surprise, his > response was that he thought > > that it was pretty crude and explained the winking as > the "opening and > > closing of certain penetrable orifices." > > > > Who here is so vile that they would know? I'll > stop so you can reply. > > > > Peter. > > > > the next auto-quote is: > > Keep your government hands off my Medicare! > > (Unknown Representative of Idiot America) > > /\/\ > > Peter Nightingale > Telephone (401) 874-5882 > > Department of Physics, East Hall Fax > (401) 874-2380 > > University of Rhode Island > Kingston, RI 02881 > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, > version of virus > > signature database 4356 (20090821) __ > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version > of virus signature database 4356 (20090821) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: cat will after kind
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009, vance wood said: > We tend to think we have a monopoly on crude, lascivious behavior ah, but, what of pills to purge melancholy... and, certain frenche ditties, "Il estoit une fillette..." troubadors had a rich earthy repetoire centuries earlier, as did the romans. nothing new under this sun. -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Triple-extension 13c Swan Neck by Grant Tomlinson For Sale
Dear All, Please excuse this message. For those interested, please respond off-list. All best wishes, Benjamin For Sale: 13 course Widhalm with Jauck-style theorboed upper extension by Grant Tomlinson (made in 2000) Low pitch f ' or e'. String length: 73 cm / 89.8 cm / 102 cm. Stringing: 2 x 1, 6 x 2 / 3 x 2 / 2 x 2 The body and soundboard of this theorboed 13 course are based on the 1755 Widhalm, Nurnberg MIR903. The triple extension, neck and bridge are based on two instruments by Andreas Jauck (Yale and Brussels). Back of 11 Honduran rosewood ribs with holly spacers. Neck and top of bridge ebony-veneered. Fingerboard, points and edge binding of ebony. Extension of maple, dyed black. Decorative knot carved around the rose. The action is silky-smooth. Comes with Kingham case (grey) in good condition. Photos of this lute are available on Grant's website: [1]http://www.tomlinsonlutes.com/thirt2.html , No.3. For sound files, more photos, or any other questions, please contact Benjamin Narvey for details: [2]luthi...@gmail.com -- Dr Benjamin A. Narvey Post-doctorant/Post-Doctoral Fellow Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes (Sorbonne) IVe Section des Sciences historiques et philologiques t +33 (0) 1 44 27 03 44 p/m +33 (0) 6 71 79 98 98 Site web/Website: [3]www.luthiste.com -- References 1. http://www.tomlinsonlutes.com/thirt2.html 2. mailto:luthi...@gmail.com 3. http://www.luthiste.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: cat will after kind
We tend to think we have a monopoly on crude, lascivious behavior with our on line porn, lose moral pop songs and television programs. Such is not the case. This is not the first time we have run across female genital references such and My Lady Hunsdon's Puff. There are those who believe that the word intended here is not puff but puss. I remember a madrigal I heard some time ago, the title and author of which I now cannot remember, but the multi voicing was constructed in such a way that at certain points in the composition the disparate voicing came together to make the phrase tickle her taint. - Original Message - From: "Peter Nightingale" To: "lute" Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:24 AM Subject: [LUTE] cat will after kind Dear Luters, The lyrics of Watkins Ale contains this: cat will after kind, all winkers are not blind I had always interpreted the winkers part as referring to a subtle invitation for a roll in the Ale, until I asked a British friend what he thought it meant. Much to my surprise, his response was that he thought that it was pretty crude and explained the winking as the "opening and closing of certain penetrable orifices." Who here is so vile that they would know? I'll stop so you can reply. Peter. the next auto-quote is: Keep your government hands off my Medicare! (Unknown Representative of Idiot America) /\/\ Peter Nightingale Telephone (401) 874-5882 Department of Physics, East Hall Fax (401) 874-2380 University of Rhode Island Kingston, RI 02881 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4356 (20090821) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4356 (20090821) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
[LUTE] cat will after kind
Dear Luters, The lyrics of Watkins Ale contains this: cat will after kind, all winkers are not blind I had always interpreted the winkers part as referring to a subtle invitation for a roll in the Ale, until I asked a British friend what he thought it meant. Much to my surprise, his response was that he thought that it was pretty crude and explained the winking as the "opening and closing of certain penetrable orifices." Who here is so vile that they would know? I'll stop so you can reply. Peter. the next auto-quote is: Keep your government hands off my Medicare! (Unknown Representative of Idiot America) /\/\ Peter Nightingale Telephone (401) 874-5882 Department of Physics, East Hall Fax (401) 874-2380 University of Rhode Island Kingston, RI 02881 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Marriage at Cana
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009, David Tayler said: >That is a fascinating painting for all sorts of reasons. Apparently >the painter, Jan Vermeyen, spent a fair amount of time in Spain which strongly suggests he was at least outwardly a catholic; yet, no halos. >that lute has a number of quite vihuela characteristics (primary rose, >other sounding holes). also guitar-like, tho perhaps a tad early. yet, one wonders if any other iconographical or physical evidence exists for parchment rose lute soundboards? Lots of instruments must have gone to davy-jones locker along with their owners from huricanos and what have you, but surely a few men of power and sufficient wealth to afford the instrument avoided glory-seeking in the new world and managed to stay home and dry. -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Marriage at Cana
Nice example of "thumb center" The lute looks pretty lute-like :) __ From: Mark Probert To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:34:26 AM Subject: [LUTE] Marriage at Cana That is a fascinating painting for all sorts of reasons. Apparently the painter, Jan Vermeyen, spent a fair amount of time in Spain, and I wonder if his "lutenist" might not have been a composite of his northern (lute) and southern (vihuela) experiences? It seems as though that lute has a number of quite vihuela characteristics (primary rose, other sounding holes). Or perhaps there were models like this in the Spanish Netherlands? Combining the best of both worlds, so to speak. Here is the link to the painting details etc: [1]http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/collectie/zoeken/asset.jsp?id=SK-A-4820a(c )=en -- Best regards .. mark To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/collectie/zoeken/asset.jsp?id=SK-A-4820%E2%8C%A9=en 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
