[LUTE] Holiday Wishes
Merry Christmas ! Soulful Solstice ! Happy Chanukah ! Happy Kwanza ! (?!) ... Whatever it is you celebrate, I hope it's absolutely grand : ) Best wishes, Tom Tom Draughon Heartistry Music http://www.heartistry.com/artists/tom.html 714 9th Avenue West Ashland, WI 54806 715-682-9362 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Q on odd tunings for plucked instruments
The Scots/Irish clarsach (medieval wire-string harp) of yore had the two central strings tuned to b, and were referred to as the 'two sisters'. I have a couple of theories as to why this should be. 1) one of them was b flat - necessary for medieval music theory and practice, 2) most clarsairs were blind, so two 'b's helped provide a position guide. Both theories have been rejected by clarsach researchers, but no alternative theory has been advanced. Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Christmas Wishes
And the same to you, Karen. If 'lute appreciator' doesn't include lute player, I'm sure all here would encourage you to join all those of us who are amateur players. Ned -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Christmas Wishes
Dear Lute List Just Season's Greetings of the very best kind from a List Lurker and Lute Appreciator. Thanks for another year of interesting musical insights and treats. All the best for 2010 from the Cambridgeshire Fens (with snow disappearing and fog descending). Karen Hore [1]karen.h...@gmail.com -- References 1. mailto:karen.h...@gmail.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Holiday Theorbo Time!
Thanks and most impressive, Chris. While my ear has yet to be seduced by the sound of the theorbo as it has been by the lute, your arrangements and playing are wonderful. May all your strings resonant with wonderful harmonies in the new year. Ned -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Q on odd tunings for plucked instruments
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:39:52 -0500 alexander wrote: > Ashamed to admit knowledge of this, but most of the balalaika family > instruments tune with two unison strings (it's not a pair, or course, > but two independent strings), starting with a-e-e for piccolo. > > http://www.juststrings.com/balalaika.html a. > > On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:42:30 + > "Stewart McCoy" wrote: > > > Dear Dana, > > > > You ask if there are any instruments with open courses tuned to the same > > note. Some tunings of the Turkish saz or baglama (long-necked lute-like > > instrument) have the 1st and 3rd courses tuned to the same pitch. See > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%C4%9Flama#Ba.C4.9Flama_tunings > > > > Although the five-string banjo in standard G tuning doesn't duplicate > > the pitch of the open strings, the stopped notes on the 1st and 5th > > strings duplicate each other from the 5th fret onwards. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Stewart McCoy. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > > Behalf Of dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us > > Sent: 24 December 2009 00:09 > > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > > Subject: [LUTE] Q on odd tunings for plucked instruments > > > > Staff notation differes from tablature notation in many ways, but a > > fundamental point of difference is that ordinary staff notation specifys > > only the pitch of each note, and not where on the instrument it is > > produced, for instruments with alternatives this leaves it up to the > > player, and must be determined in advance, which is a difficulty when > > playing by sight. > > > > Annotations on the score will tell a guitarist what position to play in, > > an organist might have separate staves for each manual; a number of > > conventions address this issue, but for a computer program it comes down > > to what data is recorded internally. > > > > MusicXML records the fret and the pitch; but not the tuning (its a big > > specification, might have missed that). Notation software can review > > the > > recorded note/fret pairs and deduce the open tuning (and therefore the > > implied course) so long as two things are true - fretting must be > > indicated as if it was chromatic, no two courses can have the same open > > pitch. > > > > I suspect there are some historical cittern tabulatures which break the > > first; and the second may be a problem for some scordaturas on > > appalachian > > dulcimer (which also has a diatonic fretting issue). The 5-string banjo > > has a myriad of tunings that i have not explored, perhaps its fifth > > string > > is sometimes tuned-down to double the first? > > > > Q - > > > > Besides the strummed dulcimer, ignoring octaves and sympathetic drones, > > can anyone think of an instrument which (sometimes) employs > > duplicated-pitch open courses? > > -- > > Dana Emery > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > >
[LUTE] Re: Q on odd tunings for plucked instruments
Ashamed to admit knowledge of this, but most of the balalaika family instruments tune with two unison strings (it's not a pair, or course, but two independent strings), starting with a-e-e for piccolo. http://www.juststrings.com/balalaika.html a. On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:42:30 + "Stewart McCoy" wrote: > Dear Dana, > > You ask if there are any instruments with open courses tuned to the same > note. Some tunings of the Turkish saz or baglama (long-necked lute-like > instrument) have the 1st and 3rd courses tuned to the same pitch. See > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%C4%9Flama#Ba.C4.9Flama_tunings > > Although the five-string banjo in standard G tuning doesn't duplicate > the pitch of the open strings, the stopped notes on the 1st and 5th > strings duplicate each other from the 5th fret onwards. > > Best wishes, > > Stewart McCoy. > > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us > Sent: 24 December 2009 00:09 > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [LUTE] Q on odd tunings for plucked instruments > > Staff notation differes from tablature notation in many ways, but a > fundamental point of difference is that ordinary staff notation specifys > only the pitch of each note, and not where on the instrument it is > produced, for instruments with alternatives this leaves it up to the > player, and must be determined in advance, which is a difficulty when > playing by sight. > > Annotations on the score will tell a guitarist what position to play in, > an organist might have separate staves for each manual; a number of > conventions address this issue, but for a computer program it comes down > to what data is recorded internally. > > MusicXML records the fret and the pitch; but not the tuning (its a big > specification, might have missed that). Notation software can review > the > recorded note/fret pairs and deduce the open tuning (and therefore the > implied course) so long as two things are true - fretting must be > indicated as if it was chromatic, no two courses can have the same open > pitch. > > I suspect there are some historical cittern tabulatures which break the > first; and the second may be a problem for some scordaturas on > appalachian > dulcimer (which also has a diatonic fretting issue). The 5-string banjo > has a myriad of tunings that i have not explored, perhaps its fifth > string > is sometimes tuned-down to double the first? > > Q - > > Besides the strummed dulcimer, ignoring octaves and sympathetic drones, > can anyone think of an instrument which (sometimes) employs > duplicated-pitch open courses? > -- > Dana Emery > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > >
[LUTE] Q on odd tunings for plucked instruments
Dear Dana, You ask if there are any instruments with open courses tuned to the same note. Some tunings of the Turkish saz or baglama (long-necked lute-like instrument) have the 1st and 3rd courses tuned to the same pitch. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%C4%9Flama#Ba.C4.9Flama_tunings Although the five-string banjo in standard G tuning doesn't duplicate the pitch of the open strings, the stopped notes on the 1st and 5th strings duplicate each other from the 5th fret onwards. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us Sent: 24 December 2009 00:09 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Q on odd tunings for plucked instruments Staff notation differes from tablature notation in many ways, but a fundamental point of difference is that ordinary staff notation specifys only the pitch of each note, and not where on the instrument it is produced, for instruments with alternatives this leaves it up to the player, and must be determined in advance, which is a difficulty when playing by sight. Annotations on the score will tell a guitarist what position to play in, an organist might have separate staves for each manual; a number of conventions address this issue, but for a computer program it comes down to what data is recorded internally. MusicXML records the fret and the pitch; but not the tuning (its a big specification, might have missed that). Notation software can review the recorded note/fret pairs and deduce the open tuning (and therefore the implied course) so long as two things are true - fretting must be indicated as if it was chromatic, no two courses can have the same open pitch. I suspect there are some historical cittern tabulatures which break the first; and the second may be a problem for some scordaturas on appalachian dulcimer (which also has a diatonic fretting issue). The 5-string banjo has a myriad of tunings that i have not explored, perhaps its fifth string is sometimes tuned-down to double the first? Q - Besides the strummed dulcimer, ignoring octaves and sympathetic drones, can anyone think of an instrument which (sometimes) employs duplicated-pitch open courses? -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Holiday Lute Time!
A Ukrainian Carol "for pondering", with variations, for tonight: http://torban.org/images/nova-rad-var.pdf http://torban.org/audio/nova-rad-varL.mp3 Enjoy, RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Holiday Theorbo Time!
Very nice, Chris! and congratulations on the solstice(-ish) arrivals. s On Dec 24, 2009, at 8:14 AM, chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, Its that time again - time for eggnog, fruitcake, extended time with extended family, desperate last minute trips to the mall... and of course, theorbo music! Here are two clips of (just in time) seasonal theorbo offerings: My arrangement of "It Came Upon a Midnight Clear" con variazione http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDg56TnhdV4 Robert de Visee's setting of the French Noel, "Je me suis leve par un martinet" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqmY_kYg39A Enjoy! Here's wishing you the happiest of holidays! Chris To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Holiday Theorbo Time!
Hi all, Its that time again - time for eggnog, fruitcake, extended time with extended family, desperate last minute trips to the mall... and of course, theorbo music! Here are two clips of (just in time) seasonal theorbo offerings: My arrangement of "It Came Upon a Midnight Clear" con variazione http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDg56TnhdV4 Robert de Visee's setting of the French Noel, "Je me suis leve par un martinet" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqmY_kYg39A Enjoy! Here's wishing you the happiest of holidays! Chris To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Q on odd tunings for plucked instruments
> Besides the strummed dulcimer, ignoring octaves and sympathetic drones, > can anyone think of an instrument which (sometimes) employs > duplicated-pitch open courses? Japanese Koto. I have no idea about the various other kinds (Korean, Chinese), but can imagine it's more or less the same for these: there are several standard tunings and for the rest anything goes. David -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Q on odd tunings for plucked instruments
I'm not sure I understand the question :) But I always ignore sympathetic drones. d At 04:08 PM 12/23/2009, you wrote: >Staff notation differes from tablature notation in many ways, but a >fundamental point of difference is that ordinary staff notation specifys >only the pitch of each note, and not where on the instrument it is >produced, for instruments with alternatives this leaves it up to the >player, and must be determined in advance, which is a difficulty when >playing by sight. > >Annotations on the score will tell a guitarist what position to play in, >an organist might have separate staves for each manual; a number of >conventions address this issue, but for a computer program it comes down >to what data is recorded internally. > >MusicXML records the fret and the pitch; but not the tuning (its a big >specification, might have missed that). Notation software can review the >recorded note/fret pairs and deduce the open tuning (and therefore the >implied course) so long as two things are true - fretting must be >indicated as if it was chromatic, no two courses can have the same open >pitch. > >I suspect there are some historical cittern tabulatures which break the >first; and the second may be a problem for some scordaturas on appalachian >dulcimer (which also has a diatonic fretting issue). The 5-string banjo >has a myriad of tunings that i have not explored, perhaps its fifth string >is sometimes tuned-down to double the first? > >Q - > >Besides the strummed dulcimer, ignoring octaves and sympathetic drones, >can anyone think of an instrument which (sometimes) employs >duplicated-pitch open courses? >-- >Dana Emery > > > >To get on or off this list see list information at >http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
