[LUTE] Re: l[LUTE] Re: Prelude by Hoppy
...plus other tabs adapted from Louis Couperin and Marin Marais ! Enjoy ! ( http://www.claireantonini.com/?Partitions%A0:Transcriptions_pour_luth_baroque ) Best, Jean-Marie Jean-Marie Poirier = == En réponse au message du 12-05-2010, 05:31:34 == > > > >>I agree with Nancy that this is a gorgeous recording by Claire Antonini. I >>found that by >>pressing the pause key at a brief moment in the photo sequence, the tablature >>can be >> displayed large enough for hand copying. > >..and if you go to her website you'll find it there ready, without pause key >:-) > >best wishes >B > > > >To get on or off this list see list information at >http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >--- >Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. >Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > >
[LUTE] Re: Help identifying 40 year old lute!
On May 11, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Samuel Jacques wrote: > Does anyone know where I can find pictures of lutes made by either > Robert Meadows or Anthony Murphy? I don't think Meadow made heavy lutes with metal frets. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Prelude by Hoppy
I agree with Nancy that this is a gorgeous recording by Claire Antonini. I found that by pressing the pause key at a brief moment in the photo sequence, the tablature can be displayed large enough for hand copying. ..and if you go to her website you'll find it there ready, without pause key :-) best wishes B To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Help identifying 40 year old lute!
Does anyone know where I can find pictures of lutes made by either
Robert Meadows or Anthony Murphy? Google is not very forthcoming about
giving me any information. I guess that is what happens when one is
trying to track an obscure instrument that was made almost half a
decade ago. I was hoping to see pictures of lutes made by them to
compare.
--- On Tue, 5/11/10, gonzornumpl...@roadrunner.com
wrote:
From: gonzornumpl...@roadrunner.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Help identifying 40 year old lute!
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, "Samuel Jacques"
Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 8:06 PM
Dear Samuel,
Though I cannot be definitive, years ago I purchased on ebay a 13 cs
baroque lute having similar features and price which was made by a
highly skilled Englishman or Irishman named A.(Anthony) Murphy. It had
unique not entirely historical features including a laterally doubled
pegbox (this innovation halved the length of the pegbox) and similar
fixed metal frets with very deep or high relief wood frets on the
soundboard. The lute was somewhat heavy, and I tried a variety of
stringings but could never obtain anything close to the resonance of my
1976 Lundberg (a very light instrument made specifically for my
hands). The Murphy 13 cs lute was in perfect condition, and in
retrospect I should have attempted to use high tension (guitar-like)
strings in order to improve sound projection. Instead, needing a tax
deduction at the time, I donated the instrument to a local university
where most of the students have never before seen a lute of any kind,
and it remains in the college art museum like a piece of furniture
students can gawk at.
If I'm not mistaken, your Renaissance instrument has a Padoan
soundboard shape. Your 8th course may rattle due to the fractured nut
underneath, but I would prefer having a seven as opposed to an 8-course
lute anyway, there being much more extant music tabulature for seven as
compared to eight courses. There are vastly more knowledgeable people
on this list who may be able to correct my own misconceptions or
misstatements, but I fully appreciate your concern and need for
information. Wish I could provide more.
Mark Seifert M.D.
Samuel Jacques <[1]dei...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hello! I have to admit I am new to the list, and to lute playing
in
>general. I started off by practicing on a cheap paki flat back
lute
>(300$) just to see if I would like it, and I do! So today I found
a
>beautiful lute on ebay that was still relatively cheap (900$).
>Now, I know from reading the archive that there are alot of
purists on
>the list - but you know, I love my paki lute since without it, I
would
>never have been able to attempt to play this beautiful music. The
>sound might not be good, but considering I have never played
guitare or
>any instrument, I'm sure I could even make a $12,000 lute sound
like a
>sick duckling.
>So with that in mind, I bought this new lute today. It's a step
up
>from what I have now, I am sure. But now I would like to know
more
>about the instrument. The seller could not identify the maker's
mark,
>and there is no label inside. The craftmanship seems pretty good
>though. here are the pictures:
>[2]http://s778.photobucket.com/albums/yy65/deides/lute/
>and the description (sorry for the size):
>* Vintage 8 Course Renaissance Lute w/ original case and wooden
peg
>tuner * 640 mm scale * The action at the 8th fret measures .181
inches
>or 4.60 mm * Ebony, ivory dotted tuners * Neck is curly maple w/
ebony
>filets * 15 gorgeous brazilian rosewood ribs w/ an aged german
spruce
>top * Rosewood bridge, ebony fretboard and mahogany rose * Curly
maple
>and mahogany peg head * This lute sounds fantastic, but there are
>issues that have been high-lighted in the pics * The nut has
damage to
>the 8th course section * It is chipped, but the strings still stay
>where they should * There are various cracks in the spruce top :
below
>the bridge, next to the high frets, between the bridge and rose *
What
>is nice about these cracks is that they have been there a while
and
>have remained very tight * There is an excellent binding on this
>instrument * There is no reason to repair these cracks and a
repair
>could diminish the sound quality which is superb * The metal frets
show
>little wear and are firmly seated * Not sure of the exact age, but
is
>at least 40 years old *
>So, could anyone here help me to try and find out a little bit
more
>about this lute? I already know is it probably from the 70's, so
it
>would be heavy, more like a guitare,
[LUTE] Re: Help identifying 40 year old lute!
Wow, thank you for the reply... I will note down that name and do some
research - it is somewhat difficult to find any information without a
starting point. so thank you!
About the fractured nut, yes I rarely use the 8th course so I figured
this would not affect me as much. And, besides, I imagine it would be
a very easy fix (gluing on a piece of the material to fill the crack).
I have not weighed the instrument, but I am expecting it to be heavy.
The resonance issue could be a problem however... but seeing as I am
using a 300$ lute-ish instrument with very little semblance to a real
lute now, It will still be an improvement.
What would I use then for "high tension strings"? Right now my packi
uses pyramid strings... and I cannot afford gut. I would be very
aprehensive at using metal strings as that could also put too much
pressure on the instrument, no?
again, thank you for the thoughful reply.
--- On Tue, 5/11/10, gonzornumpl...@roadrunner.com
wrote:
From: gonzornumpl...@roadrunner.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Help identifying 40 year old lute!
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, "Samuel Jacques"
Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 8:06 PM
Dear Samuel,
Though I cannot be definitive, years ago I purchased on ebay a 13 cs
baroque lute having similar features and price which was made by a
highly skilled Englishman or Irishman named A.(Anthony) Murphy. It had
unique not entirely historical features including a laterally doubled
pegbox (this innovation halved the length of the pegbox) and similar
fixed metal frets with very deep or high relief wood frets on the
soundboard. The lute was somewhat heavy, and I tried a variety of
stringings but could never obtain anything close to the resonance of my
1976 Lundberg (a very light instrument made specifically for my
hands). The Murphy 13 cs lute was in perfect condition, and in
retrospect I should have attempted to use high tension (guitar-like)
strings in order to improve sound projection. Instead, needing a tax
deduction at the time, I donated the instrument to a local university
where most of the students have never before seen a lute of any kind,
and it remains in the college art museum like a piece of furniture
students can gawk at.
If I'm not mistaken, your Renaissance instrument has a Padoan
soundboard shape. Your 8th course may rattle due to the fractured nut
underneath, but I would prefer having a seven as opposed to an 8-course
lute anyway, there being much more extant music tabulature for seven as
compared to eight courses. There are vastly more knowledgeable people
on this list who may be able to correct my own misconceptions or
misstatements, but I fully appreciate your concern and need for
information. Wish I could provide more.
Mark Seifert M.D.
Samuel Jacques <[1]dei...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hello! I have to admit I am new to the list, and to lute playing
in
>general. I started off by practicing on a cheap paki flat back
lute
>(300$) just to see if I would like it, and I do! So today I found
a
>beautiful lute on ebay that was still relatively cheap (900$).
>Now, I know from reading the archive that there are alot of
purists on
>the list - but you know, I love my paki lute since without it, I
would
>never have been able to attempt to play this beautiful music. The
>sound might not be good, but considering I have never played
guitare or
>any instrument, I'm sure I could even make a $12,000 lute sound
like a
>sick duckling.
>So with that in mind, I bought this new lute today. It's a step
up
>from what I have now, I am sure. But now I would like to know
more
>about the instrument. The seller could not identify the maker's
mark,
>and there is no label inside. The craftmanship seems pretty good
>though. here are the pictures:
>[2]http://s778.photobucket.com/albums/yy65/deides/lute/
>and the description (sorry for the size):
>* Vintage 8 Course Renaissance Lute w/ original case and wooden
peg
>tuner * 640 mm scale * The action at the 8th fret measures .181
inches
>or 4.60 mm * Ebony, ivory dotted tuners * Neck is curly maple w/
ebony
>filets * 15 gorgeous brazilian rosewood ribs w/ an aged german
spruce
>top * Rosewood bridge, ebony fretboard and mahogany rose * Curly
maple
>and mahogany peg head * This lute sounds fantastic, but there are
>issues that have been high-lighted in the pics * The nut has
damage to
>the 8th course section * It is chipped, but the strings still stay
>where they should * There are various cracks in the spruce top :
below
>the bridge, next to the high frets, between the bridge and rose *
What
>is nice about these cracks is t
[LUTE] Re: Prelude by Hoppy
I agree with Nancy that this is a gorgeous recording by Claire Antonini. I found that by pressing the pause key at a brief moment in the photo sequence, the tablature can be displayed large enough for hand copying. MMle Antonini adds a little very pleasant improvisation toward the end. Thank you for posting this piece. Mark Seifert Nancy Carlin wrote: >I enjoyed this video. Can anyone tell me what software was used to make >the slide show of pictures that went with the music? >Nancy Carlin > > - Original Message - From: "Bernd Haegemann" > > It is also on the first solo CD by Claire Antonini, track 22, as > Prelude by Denis Gautier. > > [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_unvOajus > Not the piece in question, but a nice little clip nevertheless, > especially the future luteplayers and the two Wayne Cripps tabs! :) > G. > To get on or off this list see list information at > [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >Nancy Carlin Associates >P.O. Box 6499 >Concord, CA 94524 USA >phone 925/686-5800 fax 925/680-2582 >web site - [3]www.nancycarlinassociates.com >Representing: >FROM WALES - Crasdant & Carreg Lafar, FROM ENGLAND - Jez Lowe & Jez >Lowe & The Bad Pennies, and now representing EARLY MUSIC - The Venere >Lute Quartet, The Good Pennyworths & Morrongiello & Young >Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA >web site - [4]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org >-- > > References > >1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_unvOajus >2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >3. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ >4. http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/ >
[LUTE] Re: Help identifying 40 year old lute!
Yes, although it is roughly similar to what I am using now (the paki lute). I know my fingers will get a bit more tired but as stated before, it is only a beginner lute. I am sure there is alot more about it that isnt "up to spec". I thought the metal frets would be the first thing pointed out to me... which would open the can of worms I've seen in many other messages on the list. When I have played for a few years, I will likely upgrade to a better lute. right now, I am struggling with the standard "greensleves". --- On Tue, 5/11/10, Roman Turovsky wrote: From: Roman Turovsky Subject: Re: [LUTE] Help identifying 40 year old lute! To: "Samuel Jacques" , "Lutelist" Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 7:42 PM From: "Samuel Jacques" <[1]dei...@yahoo.com> > though. here are the pictures: > [2]http://s778.photobucket.com/albums/yy65/deides/lute/ > and the description (sorry for the size): > * Vintage 8 Course Renaissance Lute w/ original case and wooden peg > tuner * 640 mm scale * The action at the 8th fret measures .181 inches > or 4.60 mm * This action is a goodly 1.10mm over what it should be - 3.50mm. RT -- References 1. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=dei...@yahoo.com 2. http://s778.photobucket.com/albums/yy65/deides/lute/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Help identifying 40 year old lute!
Dear Samuel, Though I cannot be definitive, years ago I purchased on ebay a 13 cs baroque lute having similar features and price which was made by a highly skilled Englishman or Irishman named A.(Anthony) Murphy. It had unique not entirely historical features including a laterally doubled pegbox (this innovation halved the length of the pegbox) and similar fixed metal frets with very deep or high relief wood frets on the soundboard. The lute was somewhat heavy, and I tried a variety of stringings but could never obtain anything close to the resonance of my 1976 Lundberg (a very light instrument made specifically for my hands). The Murphy 13 cs lute was in perfect condition, and in retrospect I should have attempted to use high tension (guitar-like) strings in order to improve sound projection. Instead, needing a tax deduction at the time, I donated the instrument to a local university where most of the students have never before seen a lute of any kind, and it remains in the college art museum like a piece of furniture students can gawk at. If I'm not mistaken, your Renaissance instrument has a Padoan soundboard shape. Your 8th course may rattle due to the fractured nut underneath, but I would prefer having a seven as opposed to an 8-course lute anyway, there being much more extant music tabulature for seven as compared to eight courses. There are vastly more knowledgeable people on this list who may be able to correct my own misconceptions or misstatements, but I fully appreciate your concern and need for information. Wish I could provide more. Mark Seifert M.D. Samuel Jacques wrote: > >Hello! I have to admit I am new to the list, and to lute playing in >general. I started off by practicing on a cheap paki flat back lute >(300$) just to see if I would like it, and I do! So today I found a >beautiful lute on ebay that was still relatively cheap (900$). >Now, I know from reading the archive that there are alot of purists on >the list - but you know, I love my paki lute since without it, I would >never have been able to attempt to play this beautiful music. The >sound might not be good, but considering I have never played guitare or >any instrument, I'm sure I could even make a $12,000 lute sound like a >sick duckling. >So with that in mind, I bought this new lute today. It's a step up >from what I have now, I am sure. But now I would like to know more >about the instrument. The seller could not identify the maker's mark, >and there is no label inside. The craftmanship seems pretty good >though. here are the pictures: >http://s778.photobucket.com/albums/yy65/deides/lute/ >and the description (sorry for the size): >* Vintage 8 Course Renaissance Lute w/ original case and wooden peg >tuner * 640 mm scale * The action at the 8th fret measures .181 inches >or 4.60 mm * Ebony, ivory dotted tuners * Neck is curly maple w/ ebony >filets * 15 gorgeous brazilian rosewood ribs w/ an aged german spruce >top * Rosewood bridge, ebony fretboard and mahogany rose * Curly maple >and mahogany peg head * This lute sounds fantastic, but there are >issues that have been high-lighted in the pics * The nut has damage to >the 8th course section * It is chipped, but the strings still stay >where they should * There are various cracks in the spruce top : below >the bridge, next to the high frets, between the bridge and rose * What >is nice about these cracks is that they have been there a while and >have remained very tight * There is an excellent binding on this >instrument * There is no reason to repair these cracks and a repair >could diminish the sound quality which is superb * The metal frets show >little wear and are firmly seated * Not sure of the exact age, but is >at least 40 years old * >So, could anyone here help me to try and find out a little bit more >about this lute? I already know is it probably from the 70's, so it >would be heavy, more like a guitare, and the metal frets are quite >typical of a lute made from that era. I can't seem to make out the >makers initials... DM? EM? I wish I knew more about it. >Thank you for any help you could provide!!! > >-- > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Help identifying 40 year old lute!
Could the initials be RM? Robert Meadow? he was building 30 years ago. ed At 07:28 PM 5/11/2010, Samuel Jacques wrote: >Hello! I have to admit I am new to the list, and to lute playing in >general. I started off by practicing on a cheap paki flat back lute >(300$) just to see if I would like it, and I do! So today I found a >beautiful lute on ebay that was still relatively cheap (900$). >Now, I know from reading the archive that there are alot of purists on >the list - but you know, I love my paki lute since without it, I would >never have been able to attempt to play this beautiful music. The >sound might not be good, but considering I have never played guitare or >any instrument, I'm sure I could even make a $12,000 lute sound like a >sick duckling. >So with that in mind, I bought this new lute today. It's a step up >from what I have now, I am sure. But now I would like to know more >about the instrument. The seller could not identify the maker's mark, >and there is no label inside. The craftmanship seems pretty good >though. here are the pictures: >http://s778.photobucket.com/albums/yy65/deides/lute/ >and the description (sorry for the size): >* Vintage 8 Course Renaissance Lute w/ original case and wooden peg >tuner * 640 mm scale * The action at the 8th fret measures .181 inches >or 4.60 mm * Ebony, ivory dotted tuners * Neck is curly maple w/ ebony >filets * 15 gorgeous brazilian rosewood ribs w/ an aged german spruce >top * Rosewood bridge, ebony fretboard and mahogany rose * Curly maple >and mahogany peg head * This lute sounds fantastic, but there are >issues that have been high-lighted in the pics * The nut has damage to >the 8th course section * It is chipped, but the strings still stay >where they should * There are various cracks in the spruce top : below >the bridge, next to the high frets, between the bridge and rose * What >is nice about these cracks is that they have been there a while and >have remained very tight * There is an excellent binding on this >instrument * There is no reason to repair these cracks and a repair >could diminish the sound quality which is superb * The metal frets show >little wear and are firmly seated * Not sure of the exact age, but is >at least 40 years old * >So, could anyone here help me to try and find out a little bit more >about this lute? I already know is it probably from the 70's, so it >would be heavy, more like a guitare, and the metal frets are quite >typical of a lute made from that era. I can't seem to make out the >makers initials... DM? EM? I wish I knew more about it. >Thank you for any help you could provide!!! > >-- > > >To get on or off this list see list information at >http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: e...@gamutstrings.com voice: (218) 728-1202 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660298871&ref=name http://www.myspace.com/edslute
[LUTE] Re: Help identifying 40 year old lute!
From: "Samuel Jacques" though. here are the pictures: http://s778.photobucket.com/albums/yy65/deides/lute/ and the description (sorry for the size): * Vintage 8 Course Renaissance Lute w/ original case and wooden peg tuner * 640 mm scale * The action at the 8th fret measures .181 inches or 4.60 mm * This action is a goodly 1.10mm over what it should be - 3.50mm. RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Help identifying 40 year old lute!
Hello! I have to admit I am new to the list, and to lute playing in general. I started off by practicing on a cheap paki flat back lute (300$) just to see if I would like it, and I do! So today I found a beautiful lute on ebay that was still relatively cheap (900$). Now, I know from reading the archive that there are alot of purists on the list - but you know, I love my paki lute since without it, I would never have been able to attempt to play this beautiful music. The sound might not be good, but considering I have never played guitare or any instrument, I'm sure I could even make a $12,000 lute sound like a sick duckling. So with that in mind, I bought this new lute today. It's a step up from what I have now, I am sure. But now I would like to know more about the instrument. The seller could not identify the maker's mark, and there is no label inside. The craftmanship seems pretty good though. here are the pictures: http://s778.photobucket.com/albums/yy65/deides/lute/ and the description (sorry for the size): * Vintage 8 Course Renaissance Lute w/ original case and wooden peg tuner * 640 mm scale * The action at the 8th fret measures .181 inches or 4.60 mm * Ebony, ivory dotted tuners * Neck is curly maple w/ ebony filets * 15 gorgeous brazilian rosewood ribs w/ an aged german spruce top * Rosewood bridge, ebony fretboard and mahogany rose * Curly maple and mahogany peg head * This lute sounds fantastic, but there are issues that have been high-lighted in the pics * The nut has damage to the 8th course section * It is chipped, but the strings still stay where they should * There are various cracks in the spruce top : below the bridge, next to the high frets, between the bridge and rose * What is nice about these cracks is that they have been there a while and have remained very tight * There is an excellent binding on this instrument * There is no reason to repair these cracks and a repair could diminish the sound quality which is superb * The metal frets show little wear and are firmly seated * Not sure of the exact age, but is at least 40 years old * So, could anyone here help me to try and find out a little bit more about this lute? I already know is it probably from the 70's, so it would be heavy, more like a guitare, and the metal frets are quite typical of a lute made from that era. I can't seem to make out the makers initials... DM? EM? I wish I knew more about it. Thank you for any help you could provide!!! -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Prelude by Hoppy
Herzlichen Dank, Bernd! Luca Bernd Haegemann on 8-05-2010 18:02 wrote: puzzled: besides the nice Harald's transcription, does anybody know the source of that prélude? I knew that I know it -- and I don't have the CD by Hopkinson Smith. It is also on the first solo CD by Claire Antonini, track 22, as Prélude by Denis Gautier. I only found it here: http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?ms=GB-Ob617&id=2&type=ms&lang=eng&st=50 it is piece 63. In fact it is just the piece before the sarabande=chaconne we discussed already :-)) You'll find it now under http://www.lute-academy.be/docstore/prelude.zip (465 KB) best wishes Bernd To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Suite 'PERFECT DAY' for recorder, lute, viola da gamba
Dear All, And hereby yet another link to the new added audio files of a recording of the suite 'PERFECT DAY' written by myself for Recorder, Lute and Viola Da Gamba performed by the Camer Van Musiecke http://users.telenet.be/gilbert.isbin/esemble_compositions.html Hope you will enjoy them. Best greetings Gilbert Isbin To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
