[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles
From the point of view of a renaissance lutenist... The must have number one is the Folger, the first lute Best of of English music (from Mrs Winter's jump to Lachrimae, with some Johnson, and many nice accessible anonymous pieces) Casteliono for Italian music (and tab... A student should learn italian tab as soon as possible, too late they say, oh, I do prefer french tab...) Attaingnant fo nice easy early french music and Francisque for nice and easy late french music... (It is very important for students to have easy music to learn, not to be discouraged by heavy stuff you should play...) Narvaez for fine and beautiful Spanish works. (Or Milan in case you prefer, but my personnal choice is Narvaez...) V. -Message d'origine- De : lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la part de Sean Smith Envoyé : mardi 10 août 2010 03:19 À : lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : [LUTE] Facsimiles Dear all, Though this arises coincidentally from the Passereau question, it's actually been brewing in my head for some time. For a lute student of between 1-3 years what would you suggest are the 5 most important facsimiles to own? I was going to say have access to but I feel that any serious player should be starting their own libraries by this time. I'll ask this from the point of view of a renaissance lutenist as well as the baroque players who will have their own lists. I'm not so interested in where they come from --I realize their availability comes and goes-- but from the student/player/historian aspect of learning the lute, its repertory and its place in history. Yes, I know, 5 books is mighty limiting but feel free to add a second 5 books if you need. As I see it every player has to start somewhere. Eventually I plan to tally the results and put a paragraph or 3 in an upcoming LSA Quarterly. And here. Thanks in advance; I look forward to your replies! Sean To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Florentino Maschera - Canzon 14
hi, i have uploaded a new and easy lute trio for 3 equal lutes. (Unisono) It sounds very well. --Florentino Maschera - Canzon 14-- at mediafire Enjoy Anton To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Sonic Research ST-122 tuner
Dear List, Years ago a member of this list mentioned this very interesting tuner: Sonic Research turbo tuner st-122 (www.sonic-research.com) Finally in need of a new tuner, i got back to my e-mail archive, reached their website and realized that the st-122 is temporarily out of stock. Does anybody know of any other site or place where I could buy teh st-122? Many thanks, Luca http://liuti.manassero.net To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] 10-Course Lute
Hello lute-listers, In case anybody might be in the market for a good (Lawrence K. Brown) nine-year old 10-course lute, mine is now on the market. You can see the ad on Wayne Cripps's Lute Page. I'm concentrating pretty much on the Dm lute these days, so...anybody interested, pleae get in touch. Best, David Rastall To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] more music
I have put a few more pieces up on my web site for you folks to enjoy. There is a Passymeasures from Marsh that includes some nice pedal point divisions, and a couple of pieces I arranged for lute and recorder back in the 1970s. They are based on pieces in the Fitzwilliam Virginal Book. All these years later, I would now probably make them quite differently, but a couple of people have asked to see them. Plus if there are any cittern players out there, I have put up some lute toys from Jane Pickering, arranged for cittern. Nancy Nancy Carlin Associates P.O. Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA phone 925/686-5800 fax 925/680-2582 web sites - [1]www.nancycarlinassociates.com [2]www.groundsanddivisions.info Representing: FROM WALES - Crasdant Carreg Lafar, FROM ENGLAND - Jez Lowe Jez Lowe The Bad Pennies, and now representing EARLY MUSIC - The Venere Lute Quartet, The Good Pennyworths Morrongiello Young Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA web site - [3]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org -- References 1. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 2. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 3. http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles
A student should learn italian tab as soon as possible, too late they say, oh, I do prefer french tab...) I found it difficult to read both, and began with 'french-like' forms (French with numerals as well as french with letters). Each of the publishers had arguments for their form, all of them entirely rational, none of them conclusive. I find single-glyph symbols easier to work with, and since the number of frets obliges two-glyph symbols with numerals (eg, 14, 15 .. 25), but has single-glyph symbols in the alfabet, there is an argument which slightly favors the use of letters; but nothing really compelling to favor italian-ordered vs french-ordered layout. chacun à son goût... -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles
I think trying to make an argument that one form of tab. is better than another is both counter-productive and epistemologically unsound. The fact will in the end remain, that a serious Lute student will have to be at the least familiar with Italian, French and German tab (if not fluent) unless they find themselves in the unenviable position of having to trust on a third party to translate, one to the other, or do it themselves. Myself; I am not fluent in German tab but I can sight read both French and Italian equally well, or poorly depending on your assessment of my abilities. It is for this reason I believe it is best to learn as much as possible from facsimiles and or photo copies of original materials rather than depend on the work modern scholars, or publishers, who may or may not have supplied their opinions or rendered their own mistakes. Not to demean these efforts but to simply state that the original source is often better for educational purposes than the illuminated modern version. - Original Message - From: dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us To: Sauvage Valéry sauvag...@orange.fr Cc: 'Sean Smith' lutesm...@mac.com; 'lute-cs.dartmouth.edu' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:05 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles A student should learn italian tab as soon as possible, too late they say, oh, I do prefer french tab...) I found it difficult to read both, and began with 'french-like' forms (French with numerals as well as french with letters). Each of the publishers had arguments for their form, all of them entirely rational, none of them conclusive. I find single-glyph symbols easier to work with, and since the number of frets obliges two-glyph symbols with numerals (eg, 14, 15 .. 25), but has single-glyph symbols in the alfabet, there is an argument which slightly favors the use of letters; but nothing really compelling to favor italian-ordered vs french-ordered layout. chacun à son goût... -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles
What you say makes good sense, Vance. Ned On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:39 PM, vance wood wrote: I think trying to make an argument that one form of tab. is better than another is both counter-productive and epistemologically unsound. The fact will in the end remain, that a serious Lute student will have to be at the least familiar with Italian, French and German tab (if not fluent) unless they find themselves in the unenviable position of having to trust on a third party to translate, one to the other, or do it themselves. Myself; I am not fluent in German tab but I can sight read both French and Italian equally well, or poorly depending on your assessment of my abilities. It is for this reason I believe it is best to learn as much as possible from facsimiles and or photo copies of original materials rather than depend on the work modern scholars, or publishers, who may or may not have supplied their opinions or rendered their own mistakes. Not to demean these efforts but to simply state that the original source is often better for educational purposes than the il! luminated modern version. - Original Message - From: dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us To: Sauvage Valéry sauvag...@orange.fr Cc: 'Sean Smith' lutesm...@mac.com; 'lute-cs.dartmouth.edu' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:05 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles A student should learn italian tab as soon as possible, too late they say, oh, I do prefer french tab...) I found it difficult to read both, and began with 'french-like' forms (French with numerals as well as french with letters). Each of the publishers had arguments for their form, all of them entirely rational, none of them conclusive. I find single-glyph symbols easier to work with, and since the number of frets obliges two-glyph symbols with numerals (eg, 14, 15 .. 25), but has single-glyph symbols in the alfabet, there is an argument which slightly favors the use of letters; but nothing really compelling to favor italian-ordered vs french-ordered layout. chacun à son goût... -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
