[LUTE] Re: anyone who can re-fret a lute: North London/South Midlands?

[Edward Martin]

Interesting.  I actually enjoy "Tying one on".

ed

At 06:17 PM 3/12/2013, howard posner wrote:
>This whole thread reminds me of an LSA Seminar course of some sort 
>in which Pat O'Brien remarked that changing frets was an easy task, 
>"but some players will SELL THE INSTRUMENT rather than change the 
>frets."  He mentioned Nigel North.
>
>On Mar 12, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Dan Winheld  wrote:
>
> > I think we have to do an intervention. Everyone on the lute list 
> meets at Stuart's house with several miles of guts, a few dozen 
> bare naked lute necks, and several cases of strong IPA. Come Hell 
> or high water, his lute WILL GET FRETTED! And nobody leaves sober.
>
>Hazardous for those of us who will have to drive home to California.
>
>But I'd love to see what lute fretted by several hundred drunks 
>would be like.  Really, really, mean tone I suppose.
>
>
>
>
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[LUTE] Re: anyone who can re-fret a lute: North London/South Midlands?

[Dan Winheld]

I think we have to do an intervention. Everyone on the lute list meets 
at Stuart's house with several miles of guts, a few dozen bare naked 
lute necks, and several cases of strong IPA. Come Hell or high water, 
his lute WILL GET FRETTED! And nobody leaves sober.


Dan- (fret gut, clippers, pliers & blowtorches packed & ready to go.)

On 3/12/2013 12:35 PM, WALSH STUART wrote:
Many, many thanks to all who have offered help, suggestions, sent 
links, sent photos  - and even a video! Just tried again to put a fret 
on and still no luck. I'm just making the same mistake(s) over and 
over again now. I'll get someone to show me how to do it.


Stuart



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[LUTE] Two great ladies, Cleopatra and Swedish Katarina in f#-minor by Gaultier...

[Arto Wikla]

Dear lutenists

In case someone is interested, I just "tubed" a direct and unedited home 
recording of an extremist French baroque lute description of a couple of 
very strong ladies of their times:


   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB0P_IXqm5k&feature=youtu.be
   http://vimeo.com/61645403

best,

Arto



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[LUTE] Re : [LUTE] Re: anyone who can re-fret a lute: North London/South Midlands?

[fournier...@gmail.com]

Miles, next time you come over, I want you to show me the special trick Claude 
Guibord has to tie his frets and get them on really tightEnvoyé depuis 
mon HTC- Reply message -De : "Miles Dempster" 
Pour : "lutelist Net" 
Objet : [LUTE] Re: anyone who can re-fret a 
lute: North London/South Midlands?Date : mar., mars 12, 2013 
15:50Stuart,I once went nuts trying to do this - I 
couldn't figure out why the knot would not hold, even though I was 
following the instructions faithfully.Eventually it occurred to me that 
it could be due to my fret material. I was using varnished/smooth string gut. I 
tried again after lightly sanding it to roughen it, and the problem was 
solved.MilesOn 2013-03-12, at 3:35 PM, WALSH STUART 
wrote:> Many, many thanks to all who have offered help, suggestions, 
sent links, sent photos &!
 nbsp;- and even a video! Just tried again to put a fret on and still no luck. 
I'm just making the same mistake(s) over and over again now. I'll get 
someone to show me how to do it.> > Stuart> > 
> > To get on or off this list see list information at> 
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[LUTE] Re: anyone who can re-fret a lute: North London/South Midlands?

[Edward Mast]

I agree with Arto.  Just one loop to tie and that's it - about as simple as you 
can get.
Ned
On Mar 12, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Arto Wikla wrote:

> 
> Still one opinion: I like and prefer the knot that David vE shows as the 2nd 
> alternative in his page
>  http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/fretknot.htm
> I learned that knot from my old lute teacher Leif Karlson, student of Michael 
> Shaeffer.
> Very strong and reliable knot! Perhaps that will work?
> 
> Arto
> 
> 
> 




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[LUTE] Re: anyone who can re-fret a lute: North London/South Midlands?

[Miles Dempster]

Stuart,

I once went nuts trying to do this - I couldn't figure out why the knot would 
not hold, even though I was following the instructions faithfully.

Eventually it occurred to me that it could be due to my fret material. I was 
using varnished/smooth string gut. I tried again after lightly sanding it to 
roughen it, and the problem was solved.

Miles
On 2013-03-12, at 3:35 PM, WALSH STUART wrote:

> Many, many thanks to all who have offered help, suggestions, sent links, sent 
> photos  - and even a video! Just tried again to put a fret on and still no 
> luck. I'm just making the same mistake(s) over and over again now. I'll get 
> someone to show me how to do it.
> 
> Stuart
> 
> 
> 
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[LUTE] Re: anyone who can re-fret a lute: North London/South Midlands?

[Arto Wikla]

Still one opinion: I like and prefer the knot that David vE shows as the 
2nd alternative in his page

  http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/fretknot.htm
I learned that knot from my old lute teacher Leif Karlson, student of 
Michael Shaeffer.

Very strong and reliable knot! Perhaps that will work?

Arto

On 12/03/13 21:35, WALSH STUART wrote:
Many, many thanks to all who have offered help, suggestions, sent 
links, sent photos  - and even a video! Just tried again to put a fret 
on and still no luck. I'm just making the same mistake(s) over and 
over again now. I'll get someone to show me how to do it.


Stuart



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[LUTE] Re: anyone who can re-fret a lute: North London/South Midlands?

[WALSH STUART]

Many, many thanks to all who have offered help, suggestions, sent links, 
sent photos  - and even a video! Just tried again to put a fret on and 
still no luck. I'm just making the same mistake(s) over and over again 
now. I'll get someone to show me how to do it.


Stuart



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[LUTE] Rowallan lute book

[Valéry Sauvage]

Hello !
Some self promotion... I posted on Youtube some videos about the Rowallan Lute 
book, from the tabs by Wayne at Lyre publications.
I'm using some Aquila gut strings on my lute for this set.
Here is the play list :


On this one you can see some picts from the Rowallan Castle :



Hope you'll enjoy.

Valéry







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[LUTE] Re: anyone who can re-fret a lute: North London/South Midlands?

[Wolfgang Wiehe]

This knot works very fine, and it´s easy, really easy to realize!
try it!
w.
 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:08:23 +
> Von: Peter Martin 
> An: WALSH STUART 
> CC: lutelist Net 
> Betreff: [LUTE] Re: anyone who can re-fret a lute: North London/South 
> Midlands?

>These are the instructions that I use - clear, and with pictures!
> 
>[1]http://www.wadsworth-lutes.co.uk/frets.htm
> 
>Peter
>On 11 March 2013 21:18, WALSH STUART <[2]s.wa...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
>  I've looked at David Van Edwards' diagram a million times. There's a
>  youtube video of someone putting frets on lute: I've watched it many
>  times.
>  I just cannot do it... and never have been able to. I don't
>  understand the knot and I don't understand the method. I've got
>  masking tape plastered all over the place and the frets are still
>  loose and buzzing.
>  Oddly I can do double frets with nylon but I don't want them on a
>  decent lute. A famed maker in North London quickly re-fretted my
>  lute in about 10 minutes a couple of years ago but he doesn't reply
>  to emails and obviously can't be bothered with such menial work. My
>  lute is currently unplayable.
>  Anyone know anyone who would do it?
>  Stuart
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> 
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> 
> References
> 
>1. http://www.wadsworth-lutes.co.uk/frets.htm
>2. mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com
>3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>4. mailto:peter.l...@gmail.com
> 

[LUTE] Re: anyone who can re-fret a lute: North London/South Midlands?

[William Samson]

   Hi Stuart,

   The Lute Society has a list of makers on its website, many of whom are
   'happy to do remedial work on badly set-up lutes', which sounds like
   what's needed.

   Reading through this list was a good memory jog for me, both in terms
   of established luthiers and newer ones:
   [1]http://www.lutesociety.org/pages/makers

   Good luck in your quest!

   Best regards,

   Bill

   PS  I have sometimes put a little wooden wedge under loose frets at the
   back of the neck, out of the way of my thumb.  It's a temporary measure
   but it can last a good long time.

   PPS  I have found that gut slackens in dry conditions (central heating
   and so on) and tightens when humid.  A wipe with a slightly damp cloth,
   then leaving it for a while, can sometimes work wonders.

   --

References

   1. http://www.lutesociety.org/pages/makers


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