[LUTE] Re: Converts
My lute was made by Jiri Cepelak in 2002 (as I bought second hand I had no contact with Cepelak) - here you can see it: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9512640/LauxMaler_Cepelak.jpg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9512640/LauxMahler_Rosette.jpg best Dieter Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Juni 2014 um 16:39 Uhr Von: "r.turov...@gmail.com" An: "Dieter Schmidt" , "Lauten Maillist" Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Re: Converts there are too many aspects to consider. when was yours made, and by who? RT On 6/27/2014 10:34 AM, Dieter Schmidt wrote: > h, > so you think that the barring was changed - could they have conserved > the top? The top seems original to me because of the rose which I saw > too in a copy of the 6 course Laux Maler lute and in a baroque lute > that was made for M. Yisrael - who observes: > > " This instrument is absolutely different from any other lute I've > played," > > What I know is that renaissance lutes were converted conserving the > shell, sometimes trunkating it. > > I still wonder if a converted lute sounds like a baroque one that was > newly designed. In my lute the basses are less powerfull and it has > less resonances (what avoids problems). > > best > Dieter > Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Juni 2014 um 14:39 Uhr > Von: "r.turov...@gmail.com" > An: "Matthew Daillie" , "Dieter Schmidt" > > Cc: "Lauten Maillist" > Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Converts > the museum photos show full-fledged baroque fan-barring. > RT > On 6/27/2014 7:51 AM, Matthew Daillie wrote: > > In my opinion, if only the neck was changed, then the conversion is > not complete. Generally baroque barring would be quite different, to > what degree depending to an extent on what the lute was converted from > (early 6-course or late 10-course?). > > > > Best > > > > Matthew > > > > > > On 27 juin 2014, at 11:00, Dieter Schmidt > wrote: > > > >> Dear collected wisdom, > >> > >> I have a lute, which is rebuilt the model MI54 in the Germanic > National > >> Museum. > >> > >> [1][1]http://objektkatalog.gnm.de/objekt/MI54 > >> > >> This is a shell and top of Laux Maler converted into a baroque lute. > >> The instrument has the possibilities to play a baroque lute (13 > course > >> swan neck), but the sound is more of a renaissance lute (a bit > "dry"). > >> My question is whether this is generally the case. Do lutes that are > >> converted from a renaissance lute to a baroque one (only changed the > >> neck) sound like renaissance lutes and only those instruments that > are > >> designed as baroque lutes have the typical sound (resonance)? > >> > >> Thank you and best regards > >> Dieter > >> > >> > >> To get on or off this list see list information at > >> [2][2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > References > > 1. [3]http://objektkatalog.gnm.de/objekt/MI54 > 2. [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > References 1. http://objektkatalog.gnm.de/objekt/MI54 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. http://objektkatalog.gnm.de/objekt/MI54 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Converts
there are too many aspects to consider. when was yours made, and by who? RT On 6/27/2014 10:34 AM, Dieter Schmidt wrote: h, so you think that the barring was changed - could they have conserved the top? The top seems original to me because of the rose which I saw too in a copy of the 6 course Laux Maler lute and in a baroque lute that was made for M. Yisrael - who observes: " This instrument is absolutely different from any other lute I've played," What I know is that renaissance lutes were converted conserving the shell, sometimes trunkating it. I still wonder if a converted lute sounds like a baroque one that was newly designed. In my lute the basses are less powerfull and it has less resonances (what avoids problems). best Dieter Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Juni 2014 um 14:39 Uhr Von: "r.turov...@gmail.com" An: "Matthew Daillie" , "Dieter Schmidt" Cc: "Lauten Maillist" Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Converts the museum photos show full-fledged baroque fan-barring. RT On 6/27/2014 7:51 AM, Matthew Daillie wrote: > In my opinion, if only the neck was changed, then the conversion is not complete. Generally baroque barring would be quite different, to what degree depending to an extent on what the lute was converted from (early 6-course or late 10-course?). > > Best > > Matthew > > > On 27 juin 2014, at 11:00, Dieter Schmidt wrote: > >> Dear collected wisdom, >> >> I have a lute, which is rebuilt the model MI54 in the Germanic National >> Museum. >> >> [1]http://objektkatalog.gnm.de/objekt/MI54 >> >> This is a shell and top of Laux Maler converted into a baroque lute. >> The instrument has the possibilities to play a baroque lute (13 course >> swan neck), but the sound is more of a renaissance lute (a bit "dry"). >> My question is whether this is generally the case. Do lutes that are >> converted from a renaissance lute to a baroque one (only changed the >> neck) sound like renaissance lutes and only those instruments that are >> designed as baroque lutes have the typical sound (resonance)? >> >> Thank you and best regards >> Dieter >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > References 1. http://objektkatalog.gnm.de/objekt/MI54 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Converts
h, so you think that the barring was changed - could they have conserved the top? The top seems original to me because of the rose which I saw too in a copy of the 6 course Laux Maler lute and in a baroque lute that was made for M. Yisrael - who observes: " This instrument is absolutely different from any other lute I've played," What I know is that renaissance lutes were converted conserving the shell, sometimes trunkating it. I still wonder if a converted lute sounds like a baroque one that was newly designed. In my lute the basses are less powerfull and it has less resonances (what avoids problems). best Dieter Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Juni 2014 um 14:39 Uhr Von: "r.turov...@gmail.com" An: "Matthew Daillie" , "Dieter Schmidt" Cc: "Lauten Maillist" Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Converts the museum photos show full-fledged baroque fan-barring. RT On 6/27/2014 7:51 AM, Matthew Daillie wrote: > In my opinion, if only the neck was changed, then the conversion is not complete. Generally baroque barring would be quite different, to what degree depending to an extent on what the lute was converted from (early 6-course or late 10-course?). > > Best > > Matthew > > > On 27 juin 2014, at 11:00, Dieter Schmidt wrote: > >> Dear collected wisdom, >> >> I have a lute, which is rebuilt the model MI54 in the Germanic National >> Museum. >> >> [1]http://objektkatalog.gnm.de/objekt/MI54 >> >> This is a shell and top of Laux Maler converted into a baroque lute. >> The instrument has the possibilities to play a baroque lute (13 course >> swan neck), but the sound is more of a renaissance lute (a bit "dry"). >> My question is whether this is generally the case. Do lutes that are >> converted from a renaissance lute to a baroque one (only changed the >> neck) sound like renaissance lutes and only those instruments that are >> designed as baroque lutes have the typical sound (resonance)? >> >> Thank you and best regards >> Dieter >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > References 1. http://objektkatalog.gnm.de/objekt/MI54 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Converts
the museum photos show full-fledged baroque fan-barring. RT On 6/27/2014 7:51 AM, Matthew Daillie wrote: In my opinion, if only the neck was changed, then the conversion is not complete. Generally baroque barring would be quite different, to what degree depending to an extent on what the lute was converted from (early 6-course or late 10-course?). Best Matthew On 27 juin 2014, at 11:00, Dieter Schmidt wrote: Dear collected wisdom, I have a lute, which is rebuilt the model MI54 in the Germanic National Museum. http://objektkatalog.gnm.de/objekt/MI54 This is a shell and top of Laux Maler converted into a baroque lute. The instrument has the possibilities to play a baroque lute (13 course swan neck), but the sound is more of a renaissance lute (a bit "dry"). My question is whether this is generally the case. Do lutes that are converted from a renaissance lute to a baroque one (only changed the neck) sound like renaissance lutes and only those instruments that are designed as baroque lutes have the typical sound (resonance)? Thank you and best regards Dieter To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Converts
In my opinion, if only the neck was changed, then the conversion is not complete. Generally baroque barring would be quite different, to what degree depending to an extent on what the lute was converted from (early 6-course or late 10-course?). Best Matthew On 27 juin 2014, at 11:00, Dieter Schmidt wrote: > Dear collected wisdom, > > I have a lute, which is rebuilt the model MI54 in the Germanic National > Museum. > > http://objektkatalog.gnm.de/objekt/MI54 > > This is a shell and top of Laux Maler converted into a baroque lute. > The instrument has the possibilities to play a baroque lute (13 course > swan neck), but the sound is more of a renaissance lute (a bit "dry"). > My question is whether this is generally the case. Do lutes that are > converted from a renaissance lute to a baroque one (only changed the > neck) sound like renaissance lutes and only those instruments that are > designed as baroque lutes have the typical sound (resonance)? > > Thank you and best regards > Dieter > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Una mosa falle yo (Anonymous)
hi, a new (better version) of Una mosa falle yo (Anonymous) from Canti B numero cinquanta you can find at: http://imslp.org/wiki/Una_mosa_falle_yo_(Anonymous) (for those who want to have a guitar staff notation, I overwork most of my lute Intavolations. So you can find them at IMSLP, too) On my lute homepage I marked them with an X" http://lute-ensemble-tabulatures.npage.de/ Anton -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Converts
Dear collected wisdom, I have a lute, which is rebuilt the model MI54 in the Germanic National Museum. http://objektkatalog.gnm.de/objekt/MI54 This is a shell and top of Laux Maler converted into a baroque lute. The instrument has the possibilities to play a baroque lute (13 course swan neck), but the sound is more of a renaissance lute (a bit "dry"). My question is whether this is generally the case. Do lutes that are converted from a renaissance lute to a baroque one (only changed the neck) sound like renaissance lutes and only those instruments that are designed as baroque lutes have the typical sound (resonance)? Thank you and best regards Dieter To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
