[LUTE] Fronimo corrected and reworked Lute Intavbulations with better layouts -14
Hi, Here is the list of new lute intabulations, or corrected and reworked intabulations in Fronimo, with better layouts on IMSLP. I didnt know until these arrangements that Phalese' works sounds so great and I am wondering that there are almost so less or no recordings of his works. To the understanding of all: I do these transcriptions not only for voice and lute, but they also serve to understand the voice-leading, the melodic line and the frame(work) of the compositions. A must for all who are engaged in ( not only -Phalese -Theatrum Musicums) Lute-intabulations! Crecquillon, Thomas Alix avoit mal aux dens (Dalla Casa 1584) Treble lute http://imslp.org/wiki/Alix_avoit_mal_aux_dens_(Crecquillon,_Thomas) Petite fleur (Dalla Casa) Tr; lute http://imslp.org/wiki/Petite_fleur_(Dalla_Casa,_Girolamo) Courtois, Jean Petit Jacquet (Dalla Casa) Tr; lute http://imslp.org/wiki/Petit_Jacquet_(Dalla_Casa,_Girolamo) Crecquillon, Thomas Petite fleurSopran Lute http://imslp.org/wiki/Petite_fleur_(Crecquillon,_Thomas) Bassano, Giovanni Hora che ogni animalSopran Lute http://imslp.org/wiki/Hora_che_ogni_animal_(Bassano,_Giovanni) Mundy, John The shepherd Strephon Sopran Lute http://imslp.org/wiki/The_shepherd_Strephon_(Mundy,_John)#IMSLP347953 Farnaby, Giles Ay Me, Poor Heart Sopran, Bass Lute http://imslp.org/wiki/Ay_Me,_Poor_Heart!_(Farnaby,_Giles) Farnaby, RichardAy Me, Poor Heart (FWB) Bass; 2 lutes http://imslp.org/wiki/Ay_Me,_Poor_Heart!_(Farnaby,_Giles)#IMSLP348141 (all of the diminutions are original by Giles Farnaby - Fitzwilliam Virginal Book) !!! Hilton, JohnFair Oriana, beauty's queen 2 Sopranos Lute http://imslp.org/wiki/Fair_Oriana,_beauty's_queen_(Hilton,_John)#IMSLP348204 Anonymous Why ask you?Tr; lute http://imslp.org/wiki/Why_ask_you?_(Anonymous)#IMSLP348268 Lassus, Orlande de Margot labourez les vignes (FWB LXXXIII) (2lutes secundam) after Peter Philips http://imslp.org/wiki/Margot_labourez_les_vignes_(Lassus,_Orlande_de) Attaignant, Pierre Je demeure seule esgareeTr; lute http://imslp.org/wiki/Je_demeure_seule_esgaree_(Attaingnant,_Pierre) Attaignant, Pierre Jay mis mon cueur Tr; lute http://imslp.org/wiki/Jay_mis_mon_cueur_(Attaingnant,_Pierre) Attaignant, Pierre Amour vault tropTr; lute http://imslp.org/wiki/Amour_vault_trop_(Attaingnant,_Pierre) Bull, John Almain ITr; lute http://imslp.org/wiki/Almain_I_(Bull,_John)#IMSLP286475 Cabanilles, JuanTiento 86 Tr; lute http://imslp.org/wiki/Tiento_No.86_(Cabanilles,_Juan) Corrêa de Araujo, Francisco Tiento de séptimo tono, FO 28 Tr; lute http://imslp.org/wiki/Tiento_de_séptimo_tono,_FO_28_(Corrêa_de_Araujo,_Francisco)#IMSLP348429 Gibbons, OrlandoWhoope doe Me No Harme Good Man Tr; lutex http://imslp.org/wiki/Whoope_doe_Me_No_Harme_Good_Man_(Gibbons,_Orlando) Anton http://lute-ensemble-tabulatures.npage.de/ -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Grant Tomlinson and Jan Rooks: Nepal Avalanche
Here is a CBC interview with Grant's brother who explains better what happened: http://mobilevideo.cbc.ca/u/pass~fn/1/ls/~g-16x9~http:,,mobilevideo.cbc.ca,/1/ts/~s~__ABR__/1/f/~video_mp4~__LSV__/1/m/h/7/q/a/k9ho/cbc01/video.m3u8 Sent from my iPhone On 18 oct. 2014, at 01:21, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: What awful news! Grant was the maker of my lute. Back in January, it was damaged on a flight. Grant was the only one I trusted to do the repairs. He finished work, packed it up and shipped it at the beginning of this month. It must have been one of the last things he did before leaving for Nepal. So sorry to hear about Jan. Hopefully there is a good outcome to this. Chris Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A. Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer www.christopherwilke.com On Fri, 10/17/14, BENJAMIN NARVEY luthi...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: [LUTE] Grant Tomlinson and Jan Rooks: Nepal Avalanche To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, October 17, 2014, 3:20 PM Dear All, Tragic news coming out of Nepal. It would seem our dear friendA Grant Tomlinson and his lovely wife Jan were caught in that monster avalanche in Nepal that has killed about 30 people. Grant has survived, but alas, Jan was not so fortunate. Grant is currently taking part in the recovery operation to help find Jan. I am utterly shocked by this news. I just saw Grant a few short weeks ago in Vancouver and he was so excited about this trip.A Here is a link to some of the news coming out of Nepal: [1]http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canadian-avalanche-survivor-describes-d eath-trap-in-nepal-1.2058180# Our thoughts are with him. Benjamin Narvey -- [2]www.luthiste.com t +33 (0) 6 71 79 98 98 -- References 1. http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canadian-avalanche-survivor-describes-death-trap-in-nepal-1.2058180 2. http://www.luthiste.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] [Saturday morning quotes - Arrangement
We have posted our Saturday morning quote, this week touching on musical arrangement. [1]http://wp.me/p15OyV-14k Ron Donna -- References 1. http://wp.me/p15OyV-14k To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] more on the liuto attiorbato
Hi All, You can now see and hear more detail on this project, including some of the considerations which went into it, at: http://www.luteshop.co.uk/Liuto_Attiorbato.html Martin --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: more on the liuto attiorbato
I just had a quick scan - will read the text later. It looks beautiful, but I can't get the sound file to play. I'm on an iMac, using Safari. Rob On 18 October 2014 16:06, Martin Shepherd [1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote: Hi All, You can now see and hear more detail on this project, including some of the considerations which went into it, at: [2]http://www.luteshop.co.uk/Liuto_Attiorbato.html Martin --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. [3]http://www.avast.com To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:mar...@luteshop.co.uk 2. http://www.luteshop.co.uk/Liuto_Attiorbato.html 3. http://www.avast.com/ 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] looking for Oblivion
I'm looking for the score of Oblivion Soave, and aria from Monteverdi's L'Incoronazione di Poppea. I'm sure my local library will have it, but the library is closed by now and tomorrow is a Sunday ... Anybody with a score and a scanner? David - eternally grateful *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: more on the liuto attiorbato
Hi Martin, That's a nice essay on the instrument. Thanks for championing the doubled courses - and the doubled top course. (I have a doubled chanterelle on my bass lute and do appreciate it.) And it's a stunning lute! I was not able to play the Piccininni for some reason. I tried it in two browsers. best wishes, Sean On Oct 18, 2014, at 8:06 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: Hi All, You can now see and hear more detail on this project, including some of the considerations which went into it, at: http://www.luteshop.co.uk/Liuto_Attiorbato.html Martin --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: more on the liuto attiorbato
it is slow loading, but works fine if you have Quicktime. RT On 10/18/2014 11:58 AM, Sean Smith wrote: Hi Martin, That's a nice essay on the instrument. Thanks for championing the doubled courses - and the doubled top course. (I have a doubled chanterelle on my bass lute and do appreciate it.) And it's a stunning lute! I was not able to play the Piccininni for some reason. I tried it in two browsers. best wishes, Sean On Oct 18, 2014, at 8:06 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: Hi All, You can now see and hear more detail on this project, including some of the considerations which went into it, at: http://www.luteshop.co.uk/Liuto_Attiorbato.html Martin --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: looking for Oblivion
On Oct 18, 2014, at 8:43 AM, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for the score of Oblivion Soave Have you checked IMSLP? There are couple of versions there. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: looking for Oblivion
Thank you Howard and Dennis. Just downloaded the good (?), old (!) faithful (?!) Malipiero edition and will find the aria. Thanks all. David *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** On 18 October 2014 18:19, howard posner [3]howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote: On Oct 18, 2014, at 8:43 AM, David van Ooijen [4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: A A I'm looking for the score of Oblivion Soave Have you checked IMSLP? There are couple of versions there. To get on or off this list see list information at [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 3. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 4. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: more on the liuto attiorbato
Get Martin to build you one- then you can play it anytime without any damn Quicktime or lazy browsers. On 10/18/2014 8:58 AM, Sean Smith wrote: Hi Martin, That's a nice essay on the instrument. Thanks for championing the doubled courses - and the doubled top course. (I have a doubled chanterelle on my bass lute and do appreciate it.) And it's a stunning lute! I was not able to play the Piccininni for some reason. I tried it in two browsers. best wishes, Sean On Oct 18, 2014, at 8:06 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: Hi All, You can now see and hear more detail on this project, including some of the considerations which went into it, at: http://www.luteshop.co.uk/Liuto_Attiorbato.html Martin --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: more on the liuto attiorbato
Martin- that is one sweet looking masterpiece; I would have killed for one (or paid you to build one!) back in 1999 when I was working on Piccinini a whole lot. Perfect symmetry! The historic survivors vary a bit in this regard, yours looks just like one of the better ones that I have seen. Not being able to get one was part of what prompted me to go for a Chambure vihuela copy when I became aware of that new find. I like how your playing smooths out on the Piccinini as you get further into the piece- I hope you can build one for yourself, so that your own playing comes up to your 6-course fluency. The double chanterelle is a feature that I have been struggling with (on the Vihuela) for years; first it took a long time to get the stringing to work- string material/diameter/tension/pitch level combo right, and then more time getting the touch right. But so worth it! At it's best, there is a wonderful concord unity with all the other double courses, but when out of sorts or practice it can really suck. I can see why there was such controversy about double vs. single for quite a while back in the day. I would conjecture that some modern approaches to the liuto attorbiato design with short but single diapasons are indeed taking advantage of wire overspun basses that have enough harmonic overtones to get away with no 8ve strings, but can still give a bit of the feel of that long, extended neck growl and twang so typical of archlutes theorbi. For the liuto attorbiato, I much prefer your solution- because it is not, after all, an archlute (much less a theorbo). Congrats, and I hope you build more! Dan On 10/18/2014 8:06 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: Hi All, You can now see and hear more detail on this project, including some of the considerations which went into it, at: http://www.luteshop.co.uk/Liuto_Attiorbato.html Martin --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: more on the liuto attiorbato
Thank you again Martin for having built such a wonderful instrument for me. it was my request to have an instrument as close as possible to the disposition of the surviving models, because I was persuaded that by doing so, it could reveal unexpected solutions of unsolved musical and technical questions . For instance, the kind of dedillo described by Piccinini is so much more obvious with low tension, and works more efficiently with double chanterelle ! We were both conscious that it was a bit risky, but you went all the way for me, and you made the right decisions while building the lute. Yes, it works Le Samedi 18 octobre 2014 18h53, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net a ecrit : Martin- that is one sweet looking masterpiece; I would have killed for one (or paid you to build one!) back in 1999 when I was working on Piccinini a whole lot. Perfect symmetry! The historic survivors vary a bit in this regard, yours looks just like one of the better ones that I have seen. Not being able to get one was part of what prompted me to go for a Chambure vihuela copy when I became aware of that new find. I like how your playing smooths out on the Piccinini as you get further into the piece- I hope you can build one for yourself, so that your own playing comes up to your 6-course fluency. The double chanterelle is a feature that I have been struggling with (on the Vihuela) for years; first it took a long time to get the stringing to work- string material/diameter/tension/pitch level combo right, and then more time getting the touch right. But so worth it! At it's best, there is a wonderful concord unity with all the other double courses, but when out of sorts or practice it can really suck. I can see why there was such controversy about double vs. single for quite a while back in the day. I would conjecture that some modern approaches to the liuto attorbiato design with short but single diapasons are indeed taking advantage of wire overspun basses that have enough harmonic overtones to get away with no 8ve strings, but can still give a bit of the feel of that long, extended neck growl and twang so typical of archlutes theorbi. For the liuto attorbiato, I much prefer your solution- because it is not, after all, an archlute (much less a theorbo). Congrats, and I hope you build more! Dan On 10/18/2014 8:06 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: Hi All, You can now see and hear more detail on this project, including some of the considerations which went into it, at: [1]http://www.luteshop.co.uk/Liuto_Attiorbato.html Martin --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. [2]http://www.avast.com To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.luteshop.co.uk/Liuto_Attiorbato.html 2. http://www.avast.com/ 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Strings for heavier lute
List, I know, from my recent post, there are a minority of players on this list who either own heavier non-historical instruments or own and actually play them. I am in the latter group, with a 1977 Papazian. I have tried a variety of strings, and its the trebles that seem the toughest to get right. Too thick and they may snap, or be just impossible to tune (I'd be better with geared rollers I know), too thin and the instrument sounds thin and reedy. I suspect if I were to tune this beast in F it would solve a lot of problems, but am doing ensemble work mostly. That said, I have been discovering that low tension guitar strings work fine for the basses. E.g., a 4th string will serve as a 5th course nicely. I am going to try the same pattern: a 5th guitar string for the sixth course, and a sixth for the 7th and 8th fundamentals.A Currently I am using a KF 74 for the fourth which is surprisingly very good. I tried a guitar string 3rd, Carbon Fiber for the fifth course but it was awfully wimpy sounding. I was wondering if anyone else had ideas on this or has actually tried guitar strings as well and what the results were. I know the lutes vary widely, mine is 64 cm and I am keeping it tuned in G. Thanks. Charles -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
