[LUTE] Re: As Coeli Nuptias
"Two things"--ha! I started responding before I read to the end and then
didn't change it. I should have said "a few things." Sorry.
-Original Message-
From: stephen arndt
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 5:27 PM
To: David van Ooijen ; lutelist Net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: As Coeli Nuptias
As it stands, the text is a mess. Two things strike me on a first, quick
reading:
1. The first word in line 6 may be "ignota" ("unknown"). I don't believe
that "ignata" is a Latin word.
2. Line 7 should read "Inter multos praelecta" ("Chosen from among many").
If the reference is only to women, it would be "Inter multas."
3. The first line of the second stanza should be "Fuge mundi blandimenta"
("Flee the blandishments/flattery of the world").
4. In the following line "vana oblectamenta" ("vain pleasures") is correct.
5. Lines 4 and 6 of the second stanza are probably "ad amoris thalamum" ("to
the chamber of love"). In medieval Latin "th" could be written as a "t."
6. In the second and third lines of the fourth stanza, the phrase should be
"stringe ad pectus" ("draw to your breast").
I know that's not much, but maybe it will help a little.
-Original Message-
From: David van Ooijen
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:41 PM
To: lutelist Net
Subject: [LUTE] As Coeli Nuptias
Long shot to the collected wisdom, classicists included.
I'm trying to typeset Isabella Leonarda's Ad Coeli Nuptias. All I have
is a handwritten score, copied by someone from the original in the
library in Bologna. The notes are fine, sort of, but the lyrics are
hard to read (it's the modern handwriting that's hard). Find below a
tentative transcript. Google is surprisingly unforthcoming with
possible complete, and hopefully correct, versions, so is there someone
on this list with a bright idea, or a classicist's eye and corrector's
pen?
Purpurei Flores, the second cantata, is also on the list, but a little
less urgent.
Thanks in advance.
David
AD COELI NUPTIAS
Ad coeli nuptias
a mundo perfido
veni o filia
dinimi, numini (?)
cum sorte prospera
ingnata es
Inter multos pre elacta
veni filia dilecta
2.Fuge mundi (?) blardimenta (?)
Manta (?) ligne (?) vana (?) oblectamenta (?)
Veni sposa fortunata
Ed amoris tala (?) sum (?) ve(?)
Misposa veni
Ad amoris ta lanum (?)
3. O anima curre ad meo
Sponsus exdanot (?)
Jesus invitat
anima Domini
corda(?1 woord?) mihi cordum (?)
amo(?) te ..(onleesbaar)
anima de mihi corda (? 1 woord?)
4. In mundo sunt fel a(?) lancie (?)
Omnes gratiae stringe ad pictus (?) (putus?)
Adorantes stringo/e (?) ad pictus adorantes.
Ipse ferit ipse voi/noi at ego Deo (?)
Vitam do (?) ego feovi (?) tanto/tando (?)
Ipse..
5. ..ferit ipse mecot (?) ego beo(?) ovitam do ego beo (?)
ego beo vitam do ego beo(?) vitam do (??)
6..si terras fugis fidelis anima tu mihi grata es
si cor tuum in mata
da filia ego sum tua spes ego ego sum tu a spes
si terras fidelis anima tu mihi tu mihi grata es
fides cor tuum a mata (amata?) filia
fides cor tuum amata filia ego sum tua spes
Si terras fugis fidelis anima tu mihi grata es.
fidas cora|
7. tuum amata filia ego sum tua spes
fides cor tuum amata filia ego sum tua spes.
Si terras anima fidas cor tuum amata filia ego sum tua spes ego sum tua
spes.
8.Alleluia
PURPUREI FLORES
1.Purperei flores vos ferta formate (?) Mariam ornate vos /ros (?) de
corus.
2.recitatief: Lilia con(?) dorem (?) sporgite
Rosae donate purpuras (?) ammenis (?) virgo floribus ornetur in terra
si stellis et radiis
In coelis decorete refulget
Arietta: flore te ergo flores mom(?) virgo beata corona stella tu se ..
3. inguent (?) de coelis de corgent/ sorcorgent (??) in coelis
a terra non in ter (?) nec flores nec roseas nec in pur amor respuems
(?) dona quae prebuit (?)
recitatief: flore tu ergo florete florete florete sed quia dico quid
dico florete preparat anima mea ferta (?)ferta pus (?) fulgida
quetit/fecit (??) sed nostros amores et cordis affectu et cordis
affectu ormori/ornari (?) desideret et cordis affectu et cordis affectu
ornari (?) desiderat.
Sinfonia
(aria?) Nostrum cor nostrem amorem
sonumm (??) a| )(??) sonum/donum (?) quaerit isto mihi
llerit (??) flos et stelle et
4. quia quid est flos et stelle et quia quid
flos plub (??) carus (?) nos ti mati
sola es anima mea.eris tua ingrate et rea
tuic/luic (?) si negabis cor.
***
David van Ooijen
[1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
[2]www.davidvanooijen.nl
***
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[LUTE] Re: As Coeli Nuptias
As it stands, the text is a mess. Two things strike me on a first, quick
reading:
1. The first word in line 6 may be "ignota" ("unknown"). I don't believe
that "ignata" is a Latin word.
2. Line 7 should read "Inter multos praelecta" ("Chosen from among many").
If the reference is only to women, it would be "Inter multas."
3. The first line of the second stanza should be "Fuge mundi blandimenta"
("Flee the blandishments/flattery of the world").
4. In the following line "vana oblectamenta" ("vain pleasures") is correct.
5. Lines 4 and 6 of the second stanza are probably "ad amoris thalamum" ("to
the chamber of love"). In medieval Latin "th" could be written as a "t."
6. In the second and third lines of the fourth stanza, the phrase should be
"stringe ad pectus" ("draw to your breast").
I know that's not much, but maybe it will help a little.
-Original Message-
From: David van Ooijen
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:41 PM
To: lutelist Net
Subject: [LUTE] As Coeli Nuptias
Long shot to the collected wisdom, classicists included.
I'm trying to typeset Isabella Leonarda's Ad Coeli Nuptias. All I have
is a handwritten score, copied by someone from the original in the
library in Bologna. The notes are fine, sort of, but the lyrics are
hard to read (it's the modern handwriting that's hard). Find below a
tentative transcript. Google is surprisingly unforthcoming with
possible complete, and hopefully correct, versions, so is there someone
on this list with a bright idea, or a classicist's eye and corrector's
pen?
Purpurei Flores, the second cantata, is also on the list, but a little
less urgent.
Thanks in advance.
David
AD COELI NUPTIAS
Ad coeli nuptias
a mundo perfido
veni o filia
dinimi, numini (?)
cum sorte prospera
ingnata es
Inter multos pre elacta
veni filia dilecta
2.Fuge mundi (?) blardimenta (?)
Manta (?) ligne (?) vana (?) oblectamenta (?)
Veni sposa fortunata
Ed amoris tala (?) sum (?) ve(?)
Misposa veni
Ad amoris ta lanum (?)
3. O anima curre ad meo
Sponsus exdanot (?)
Jesus invitat
anima Domini
corda(?1 woord?) mihi cordum (?)
amo(?) te ..(onleesbaar)
anima de mihi corda (? 1 woord?)
4. In mundo sunt fel a(?) lancie (?)
Omnes gratiae stringe ad pictus (?) (putus?)
Adorantes stringo/e (?) ad pictus adorantes.
Ipse ferit ipse voi/noi at ego Deo (?)
Vitam do (?) ego feovi (?) tanto/tando (?)
Ipse..
5. ..ferit ipse mecot (?) ego beo(?) ovitam do ego beo (?)
ego beo vitam do ego beo(?) vitam do (??)
6..si terras fugis fidelis anima tu mihi grata es
si cor tuum in mata
da filia ego sum tua spes ego ego sum tu a spes
si terras fidelis anima tu mihi tu mihi grata es
fides cor tuum a mata (amata?) filia
fides cor tuum amata filia ego sum tua spes
Si terras fugis fidelis anima tu mihi grata es.
fidas cora|
7. tuum amata filia ego sum tua spes
fides cor tuum amata filia ego sum tua spes.
Si terras anima fidas cor tuum amata filia ego sum tua spes ego sum tua
spes.
8.Alleluia
PURPUREI FLORES
1.Purperei flores vos ferta formate (?) Mariam ornate vos /ros (?) de
corus.
2.recitatief: Lilia con(?) dorem (?) sporgite
Rosae donate purpuras (?) ammenis (?) virgo floribus ornetur in terra
si stellis et radiis
In coelis decorete refulget
Arietta: flore te ergo flores mom(?) virgo beata corona stella tu se ..
3. inguent (?) de coelis de corgent/ sorcorgent (??) in coelis
a terra non in ter (?) nec flores nec roseas nec in pur amor respuems
(?) dona quae prebuit (?)
recitatief: flore tu ergo florete florete florete sed quia dico quid
dico florete preparat anima mea ferta (?)ferta pus (?) fulgida
quetit/fecit (??) sed nostros amores et cordis affectu et cordis
affectu ormori/ornari (?) desideret et cordis affectu et cordis affectu
ornari (?) desiderat.
Sinfonia
(aria?) Nostrum cor nostrem amorem
sonumm (??) a| )(??) sonum/donum (?) quaerit isto mihi
llerit (??) flos et stelle et
4. quia quid est flos et stelle et quia quid
flos plub (??) carus (?) nos ti mati
sola es anima mea.eris tua ingrate et rea
tuic/luic (?) si negabis cor.
***
David van Ooijen
[1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
[2]www.davidvanooijen.nl
***
--
References
1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com
2. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
To get on or off this list see list information at
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] As Coeli Nuptias
Long shot to the collected wisdom, classicists included. I'm trying to typeset Isabella Leonarda's Ad Coeli Nuptias. All I have is a handwritten score, copied by someone from the original in the library in Bologna. The notes are fine, sort of, but the lyrics are hard to read (it's the modern handwriting that's hard). Find below a tentative transcript. Google is surprisingly unforthcoming with possible complete, and hopefully correct, versions, so is there someone on this list with a bright idea, or a classicist's eye and corrector's pen? Purpurei Flores, the second cantata, is also on the list, but a little less urgent. Thanks in advance. David AD COELI NUPTIAS Ad coeli nuptias a mundo perfido veni o filia dinimi, numini (?) cum sorte prospera ingnata es Inter multos pre elacta veni filia dilecta 2.Fuge mundi (?) blardimenta (?) Manta (?) ligne (?) vana (?) oblectamenta (?) Veni sposa fortunata Ed amoris tala (?) sum (?) ve(?) Misposa veni Ad amoris ta lanum (?) 3. O anima curre ad meo Sponsus exdanot (?) Jesus invitat anima Domini corda(?1 woord?) mihi cordum (?) amo(?) te ..(onleesbaar) anima de mihi corda (? 1 woord?) 4. In mundo sunt fel a(?) lancie (?) Omnes gratiae stringe ad pictus (?) (putus?) Adorantes stringo/e (?) ad pictus adorantes. Ipse ferit ipse voi/noi at ego Deo (?) Vitam do (?) ego feovi (?) tanto/tando (?) Ipse.. 5. ..ferit ipse mecot (?) ego beo(?) ovitam do ego beo (?) ego beo vitam do ego beo(?) vitam do (??) 6..si terras fugis fidelis anima tu mihi grata es si cor tuum in mata da filia ego sum tua spes ego ego sum tu a spes si terras fidelis anima tu mihi tu mihi grata es fides cor tuum a mata (amata?) filia fides cor tuum amata filia ego sum tua spes Si terras fugis fidelis anima tu mihi grata es. fidas cora| 7. tuum amata filia ego sum tua spes fides cor tuum amata filia ego sum tua spes. Si terras anima fidas cor tuum amata filia ego sum tua spes ego sum tua spes. 8.Alleluia PURPUREI FLORES 1.Purperei flores vos ferta formate (?) Mariam ornate vos /ros (?) de corus. 2.recitatief: Lilia con(?) dorem (?) sporgite Rosae donate purpuras (?) ammenis (?) virgo floribus ornetur in terra si stellis et radiis In coelis decorete refulget Arietta: flore te ergo flores mom(?) virgo beata corona stella tu se .. 3. inguent (?) de coelis de corgent/ sorcorgent (??) in coelis a terra non in ter (?) nec flores nec roseas nec in pur amor respuems (?) dona quae prebuit (?) recitatief: flore tu ergo florete florete florete sed quia dico quid dico florete preparat anima mea ferta (?)ferta pus (?) fulgida quetit/fecit (??) sed nostros amores et cordis affectu et cordis affectu ormori/ornari (?) desideret et cordis affectu et cordis affectu ornari (?) desiderat. Sinfonia (aria?) Nostrum cor nostrem amorem sonumm (??) a| )(??) sonum/donum (?) quaerit isto mihi llerit (??) flos et stelle et 4. quia quid est flos et stelle et quia quid flos plub (??) carus (?) nos ti mati sola es anima mea.eris tua ingrate et rea tuic/luic (?) si negabis cor. *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] better layouts
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