[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - Pitch

[wayne cripps]

Hi Tom , and everyone else

  The lute list is set up to “unpack" messages that have been "packed up"
for travel by your computer.  One system of “packing" text is called 
quoted-printable, and it uses an equals sign followed by a number to 
represent special characters and numbers.  So when you write about a 
pitch using A  440  and you computer sends it off as
quoted-printable the lute list robot interprets that as a hex number 
like D0.  If you write A 440 it will stand a better chance of getting
through.  Or you could try to set up your mail program to avoid using
any special formatting, though that could be tricky.

 Wayne


>  The 1840 Chickering, one of the very first pianos
> to incorporate a full cast metal plate, was designed to be tuned
> at AC0.  

>  There is a LOT of mis-information in the AC2 arguments,

> including that it was the Nazis who insisted on 440.  NOT TRUE.
> tuned at AD0 ever since.




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[LUTE] layouts-11

[Anton Höger]

Hi,

here are some intabulations with better layouts (all in Fronimo) for:


— Gabrieli, Andrea - Pass e Mezzo antico  (For Treble Instrument and 2 Lutes)

— Gabrieli, Andrea - Intonazione del Quinto Tono  (for 2 lutes Unisono and ad 
secundam)

— Gabrieli, Giovanni - Intonazioni  — all 12 Intonationi !!!for   (For 
Treble Instrument and Lute)

— Gabrielli, Giovanni -  Canzon II a 4, Ch.187  (3 Lutes Unisono)

— Gabrieli, Giovanni - Canzon a 4, Ch.194  (4 Lutes Unisono and ad secundam)

— Cavaccio, Giovanni -  Canzona 'La Morari‘  -ad secundam (a,a,g,g,-lutes) 
and mp3 added

— Cornysh, William - Adieu! mes amours(4 Lutes Unisono )

— Frescobaldi - Fantasia Decima Sopra quattro soggetti  (4 Lutes ad secundam 
(a,g,g,g,-lutes)

— Maschera, Florentio - Canzon settima 'La Mazzuola'(4 Lutes Unisono )

— Frescobaldi - Fantasia nona sopra tre soggietti, F 6.09 (4 Lutes 
Unisono )

— Techelmann - Allemanda dell Allegrezze (2 Lutes Unisono)









P.S.: The thumbnails in IMSLP are not correct (They show the old Finale Tab 
Thumbnails), but if you download the sheets, you will find the new Fronimo 
Untabulations!

Enjoy them

Anton


http://lute-ensemble-tabulatures.npage.de/ 
 
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[LUTE] Lilypond to Lutetab?

[Omer Katzir]

   So , I worked hard to create an arrangement for two flutes, soprano and
   lute in Lilypond, but for myself I want a pure lutetab version which is
   much easier to read. Is there a way to convert it or something or I'll
   have to write it all again?
   Thanks
   --
   Omer Katzir
   The Silent Troubadour
   [1]http://omerkatzir.com

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[LUTE] Re: Lilypond to Lutetab?

[alexander]

It is quite easy to lute TAB in Lilypond, the only question is to have
or create a good font. Personally, i edited (using fontforge  - apt-get
fontforge ) "eufm10"  ( /usr/share/fonts/truetype/lyx/eufm10 ) to look
half-decent.

Here is an altogether \score for lute TAB:

\score

   { <<
   
  \new Staff  \with {   \remove Staff_symbol_engraver  
 fontSize = #4 % edit as
 needed  
 \override StaffSymbol
 #'staff-space = #(magstep 2)  %
 edit as needed  
 \override NoteHead #'style =
 #'mensural } <<\new
 Voice \relative
 c'  {  \override
 Staff.TimeSignature
 #'transparent = ##t  \override
 Staff.Clef #'transparent = ##t
 \include
 "/home/blah/blah/rhythm.ily"  %
 location of "rhythm file -
 flags above the tab staff:
 example below
   }
 >> \new TabStaff = "lute tab"
 \with { \override StaffSymbol
 #'staff-space = #(magstep 6) %
 edit as needed
 tablatureFormat =
 #fret-letter-tablature-format  }
 << \set Staff.stringTunings =
 \stringTuning 
 % lute tuning,
 respectively let's say baroque
 six courses will be , eight 
 \override
 TabStaff.Dots #'transparent =
 ##t \override
 Staff.TimeSignature
 #'break-visibility =
 #end-of-line-invisible
 \override
 TabStaff.TimeSignature
 #'extra-offset = #'(-4.0 . 0.0)
 \override TabStaff.TabNoteHead
 #'extra-offset = #'(-0.2 . 0.5)
 \override TabNoteHead
 #'whiteout = ##t \override
 TabStaff.TabNoteHead
 #'font-size = # 2.2 \override
 TabStaff.TabNoteHead
 #'font-shape = #'italic
 \override TabStaff.TabNoteHead
 #'font-family = #'eufm10  %
 this is where your
 chosen font location goes 
 \override
 TabStaff.TabNoteHead
 #'font-name = "eufm10" %  this
 is where your chosen font
 location goes
 \context
 TabVoice = "I" \relative
 c' { \override Staff.Clef
 #'transparent = ##t \override
 Staff.TimeSignature
 #'transparent = ##t \override
 NoteHead #'transparent = ##t
 \override Stem #'transparent =
 ##t \override Beam
 #'transparent = ##t <<{\include
 "/home/blah/blah/content.ily"
 %{ file
 containing
 meter, measure
 number,
 repeats etc.
 See example
 below %}  }\\{  \include
 "/home/blah/blah/notes/Lute.ily"
 %{  actual notes, see
 example below %}  }>> } >> >>
 \header { \include
 "/home/blah/blah/composer.ily"
 %{ header stuff %}

 }
  }   

A /content.ily file:  
\repeat volta 2 {  s1*8 }

\repeat volta 2 {  s1*8 }

\repeat volta 2 {  

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - Pitch

[howard posner]

> On Jan 17, 2016, at 12:09 PM, Lute List  wrote:
> 
> American standard pitch for pianos was set at 440 in 1916

By whom, if you happen to know?



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[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - Pitch

[Lute List]

Thanks Wayne, and apologies for my ignorance.
I'll re-send

Tom Draughon
Heartistry Music
www.heartistry.com
714 9th Ave. W.
Ashland, WI  54806
715-682-9362




On Jan 17, 2016, at 4:42 PM, wayne cripps  wrote:

> Hi Tom , and everyone else
> 
>  The lute list is set up to “unpack" messages that have been "packed up"
> for travel by your computer.  One system of “packing" text is called 
> quoted-printable, and it uses an equals sign followed by a number to 
> represent special characters and numbers.  So when you write about a 
> pitch using A  440  and you computer sends it off as
> quoted-printable the lute list robot interprets that as a hex number 
> like D0.  If you write A 440 it will stand a better chance of getting
> through.  Or you could try to set up your mail program to avoid using
> any special formatting, though that could be tricky.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> 
>> The 1840 Chickering, one of the very first pianos
>> to incorporate a full cast metal plate, was designed to be tuned
>> at AC0.  
> 
>> There is a LOT of mis-information in the AC2 arguments,
> 
>> including that it was the Nazis who insisted on 440.  NOT TRUE.
>> tuned at AD0 ever since.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To get on or off this list see list information at
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html


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[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - Pitch

[Lute List]

Resent without "equal" signs:

On Jan 17, 2016, at 2:09 PM, Lute List  wrote:

 I have been restoring an early square piano by Chickering
circa 1840.
  In my communications with other piano techs and my research,
I have found that pitch, even in the 19th century, varied wildly.
  The 1840 Chickering, one of the very first pianosto incorporate
a full cast metal plate, was designed to be tuned at A 430.
By the 1870's pitch had risen to as high as 465!
And, of course, it was different in Europe than in the US.
 There is a LOT of mis-information in the A 432 arguments,
including that it was the Nazis who insisted on 440.  NOT TRUE.
American standard pitch for pianos was set at 440 in 1916, and
all pianos with full (not victorian) cast plates have been designed
in the US to be tuned at A 440 ever since.
 There has always been a quest for brighter and louder tone.
Increasing string tension does this.  But is happens with wind
instruments as well.  Scottish Highland Pipes were at one time
pitched in A, and over a few hundred years have been raised to Bb.
 So - just tune your lute 'til your (gut) 1st string breaks, all the
while looking at a meter, then back it off 1 Hz.  I'm sure it will be
resonant with the cosmos :)
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[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: I shall leave the list.

[Jon Murphy]

   Juan, I return your best wishes and thank you for them. I am not
   departing either music or life - at least not for a long time - I'm
   merely trimming my emails. I hope you will remember my direct address
   should you have anything to share.
   Best, Jon

   On 1/16/2016 2:23 PM, Juan Fco. Prieto wrote:

   Sincerely, my best wishes to you, Jon.
   Juan Francisco Prieto.

   2016-01-15 13:05 GMT+01:00 Jon Murphy <[1]j...@murphsays.com>:

 Ladies and gentlemen, I am going to remove myself from the Lute
 Builder list. Nothing to do with the communications, it is a fine
 group. I am 80 and no longer can deal with my several instruments -
 I have chosen to stay with my harp and a couple of others. My old
 guitar is yet an instrument I play when the grandchildren visit, but
 I'm not a guitarist - I'm a singer who accompanies himself on
 guitar. I fuss a bit with the home built psaltery now and then, it
 is fun to shift from the hammers on the lap to the plucked at the
 shoulder. What fun to imitate ancient instruments. I'll keep my
 modified Charango, now tuned as a Scots Mandora, so I can play the
 pieces from the Skene manuscripts. I think I'll pass on my "flat
 back" lute (the Musicmakers kit) to my grandchildren, my fingers are
 not up to handling all my instruments. I'll also pass on that silly
 bowed psaltery that many think is an ancient instrument, but was
 invented by a German at the turn of the 19th to 20th C. as a
 training device. It is a good training device, but at my age I don't
 need training, just better fingers.
 The lute is the most beautiful of instruments, and the luthier the
 epitome of artisans - be he making a lute (al oud) or a violin or
 any of the other heirs of that Arabic necked instrument. I wish you
 all well, and the same to your instruments. I am going to clear a
 shelf in my closet, the storage room for my bedroom workshop, that
 contains my form for shaping the lute body parts. Not a decision I
 wanted to make, but a bit of realism. I intend to live another 20 or
 30 years (110 would be pretty good), but I know I'll not make
 another lute. Another harp, maybe, they are easier.
 I'll not leave the list tonight, you can all bless me for my future
 should you choose.
 Best, Jon
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