[LUTE] Re: Creating a short score from pdf full score

2016-10-04 Thread William Brohinsky 
   I think, Martin, you might find it difficult to find software which can
   follow any score at random, choosing the proper parts out page after
   page, to combine into a different document. In fact, I think that most
   people in the world couldn't successfully do this, because the people
   who typeset scores aren't doing anything to make it easier for a
   machine to extract and recombine parts.
   You describe the problem well:
   "a 165 page full score with
  up to 30 independent parts/lines to cut and paste into a short score
   of
  just four principal lines would seem to take a long time to achieve
   â"
   Between different movements and different textures, combined with the
   publisher's desire to reduce useless all-rest lines and format the
   result meaningfully to a conductor or student/studier and the
   possibilities of ossiae, editorial marks, etc, within a single score,
   and the software creator's desire to have a program which isn't limited
   to converting only one publisher's output (or, for that matter, one
   single score!) it is very difficult to create a
   one-program-does-all-the-thinking approach.
   By offloading the selection of which lines to be kept and decoding
   which parts are in each system, and the other things you describe, a
   program which has a chance of succeeding with many publisher's output
   and many different score layouts, editorial additions and insertions
   and alternates, fonts and system markings is possible.
   It might be that an AI-controlled program trained to understand these
   things as we do will become available in another decade or three, but
   it is hard to say that it would be more effective than a monkey with a
   razer blade and a pot of glue. And it probably won't get the job done
   in time for your project.
   What you need is to infuse a graduate student or a young teen with the
   desire to prove how great [1]partifi.org is, and to snooker them into
   proving it with your score.
   â

   On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 3:57 AM, Martyn Hodgson
   <[2]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:

Dear David and Bruno,
Many thanks for this.
I've looked at Partifi now: it seems mostly to have been designed
 to
produce individual parts from a full score although there does
 seem to
be the facility to combine some. But the need to have to label
 every
line and specify a part on every single page might make the whole
 thing
a bit labourious for what I wish to do. eg a 165 page full score
 with
up to 30 independent parts/lines to cut and paste into a short
 score of
just four principal lines would seem to take a long time to
 achieve -
unless I've missed some easier facility within Partifi.
But many thanks
Martyn
  
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From: David van Ooijen <[3]davidvanooi...@gmail.com>
To: MJ Hodgson <[4]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk>
Cc: Lute NET <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Monday, 3 October 2016, 15:18
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Creating a short score from pdf full score
  My mistake. Here's the correct link
  [1][1][6]http://partifi.org/
  David
  On Monday, 3 October 2016, David van Ooijen
  <[2][2][7]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Partify com or org, don't know).
On Monday, 3 October 2016, MJ Hodgson
<[1][3][3][8]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk>

  wrote:
  I'd be grateful for advice on the best (free) software
   for
creating a
  new short score from an existing pdf full score.
   What I
  mean is
being
  able to copy two or three principal lines and the bass
   onto
  a new
  pdf page of, say, a 30 part mass which already
   exists as
  a pdf
.
  I presume there's some where one can scroll over a line,
  copy it
and
  paste onto a new pdf and so, by digitally cutting and
  pasting,
create a
  new short score more useful to a theorbo player who
   finds
  dealing
with
  page turns every few bars not really practicable (unlike
  keyboard
where
  the right hand can turn).
  MH
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[LUTE] Re: Creating a short score from pdf full score

2016-10-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson 
   Dear David and Bruno,
   Many thanks for this.
   I've looked at Partifi now: it seems mostly to have been designed to
   produce individual parts from a full score although there does seem to
   be the facility to combine some. But the need to have to label every
   line and specify a part on every single page might make the whole thing
   a bit labourious for what I wish to do. eg a 165 page full score with
   up to 30 independent parts/lines to cut and paste into a short score of
   just four principal lines would seem to take a long time to achieve -
   unless I've missed some easier facility within Partifi.
   But many thanks
   Martyn
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   From: David van Ooijen 
   To: MJ Hodgson 
   Cc: Lute NET 
   Sent: Monday, 3 October 2016, 15:18
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Creating a short score from pdf full score
 My mistake. Here's the correct link
 [1][1]http://partifi.org/
 David
 On Monday, 3 October 2016, David van Ooijen
 <[2][2]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote:
   Partify com or org, don't know).
   On Monday, 3 October 2016, MJ Hodgson
   <[1][3][3]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk>
   wrote:
   I'd be grateful for advice on the best (free) software for
 creating a
   new short score from an existing pdf full score.What I
   mean is
 being
   able to copy two or three principal lines and the bass onto
   a new
   pdfpage of, say, a 30 part mass which already exists as
   a pdf
 .
   I presume there's some where one can scroll over a line,
   copy it
 and
   paste onto a new pdf and so, by digitally cutting and
   pasting,
 create a
   new short score more useful to a theorbo player who finds
   dealing
 with
   page turns every few bars not really practicable (unlike
   keyboard
 where
   the right hand can turn).
   MH
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