[LUTE] CLM 68
Dear lute netters, does anybody know why this is still called Aloe? Diana Poulton read the title in Trumbull as "Aloe" which is certainly wrong as Ward noticed 40 years ago. I can't see any connection to a non-existing tune based on a wrong title. Have I missed any other "evidence"? Best wishes, Rainer adS PS The "concordances" Ward mentioned in his famous article were simply wrong as well. As far as I remember, it took him 3 later articles to admit this :) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: CLM 68
You can read Diana Poulton's argumentation on page 172 of her book on Dowland. https://books.google.fr/books?id=gM4ikvRR4Z0C&pg=PA172&lpg=PA172&dq=dowland+Aloe&source=bl&ots=-vut7Vvh87&sig=nEJtzPUKm2eGhvsxwdhOOJ9_wY4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-4_K7r9bRAhVL1RoKHc5ABH8Q6AEIPjAH#v=onepage&q=dowland%20Aloe&f=false She speaks of a ballad tune referring to a merchant ship involved in battle called the George Aloe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_George_Aloe_and_the_Sweepstake Robert Spencer in the inventory to the Boethius Press edition of the facsimile says "Mrs. Poulton mistakenly linked the 'E' to 'Alo' to spell 'Aloe', presumably not noticing that the 'E' was appended to other pieces in the manuscript". There is further information given in LSAJ Vol. X 1977, pages 70-71. Best, Matthew On 22/01/2017 17:05, Rainer wrote: Dear lute netters, does anybody know why this is still called Aloe? Diana Poulton read the title in Trumbull as "Aloe" which is certainly wrong as Ward noticed 40 years ago. I can't see any connection to a non-existing tune based on a wrong title. Have I missed any other "evidence"? Best wishes, Rainer adS PS The "concordances" Ward mentioned in his famous article were simply wrong as well. As far as I remember, it took him 3 later articles to admit this :) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: CLM 68
Nothing new... Rainer On 22.01.2017 19:43, Matthew Daillie wrote: You can read Diana Poulton's argumentation on page 172 of her book on Dowland. https://books.google.fr/books?id=gM4ikvRR4Z0C&pg=PA172&lpg=PA172&dq=dowland+Aloe&source=bl&ots=-vut7Vvh87&sig=nEJtzPUKm2eGhvsxwdhOOJ9_wY4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-4_K7r9bRAhVL1RoKHc5ABH8Q6AEIPjAH#v=onepage&q=dowland%20Aloe&f=false She speaks of a ballad tune referring to a merchant ship involved in battle called the George Aloe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_George_Aloe_and_the_Sweepstake Robert Spencer in the inventory to the Boethius Press edition of the facsimile says "Mrs. Poulton mistakenly linked the 'E' to 'Alo' to spell 'Aloe', presumably not noticing that the 'E' was appended to other pieces in the manuscript". There is further information given in LSAJ Vol. X 1977, pages 70-71. Best, Matthew On 22/01/2017 17:05, Rainer wrote: Dear lute netters, does anybody know why this is still called Aloe? Diana Poulton read the title in Trumbull as "Aloe" which is certainly wrong as Ward noticed 40 years ago. I can't see any connection to a non-existing tune based on a wrong title. Have I missed any other "evidence"? Best wishes, Rainer adS PS The "concordances" Ward mentioned in his famous article were simply wrong as well. As far as I remember, it took him 3 later articles to admit this :) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: CLM 68
On 22/01/2017 19:46, Rainer wrote: Nothing new... Rainer Well next time I won't bother then. Matthew To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html