[LUTE] Re: Gorzanis 1567

2017-03-16 Thread Arthur Ness
   Many thanks for the reference.  How well I know it. My dissertation
   is now on the LSA web page.

   GrüÃe aus Boston!  Artur.

   Arthur Ness
   arthurjn...@verizon.net

   -Original Message-
   From: Wolfgang Wiehe 
   Cc: 'Lute List' 
   Sent: Thu, Mar 16, 2017 1:09 pm
   Subject: [LUTE] Gorzanis 1567
   Gorzanis, Giacomo: Tänze und Napolitanen - BSB Mus.ms. 1511 a [1567]
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[LUTE] Re: Ballard 1623 ?

2017-03-16 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Sure, Ron, I was well aware of that, have been for ages, but even the title 
page would be nice to see !

Best,

Jean-Marie


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>   Just to clarify exactly what was lost when, from every indication, only
>   the title page to the 1623 Ballard book was sold at auction in 1975.
>   The tablatures most likely went missing long before either as a result
>   of some heinous act of utility (firestarter, perhaps?), or because you
>   just can't play the music on a keyboard without a bit of study.
>
>   RA
> __
>
>   From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  on behalf
>   of Thomas Walker 
>   Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 3:54 PM
>   To: 'Lute List'
>   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Ballard 1623 ?
>
>  Thanks for the question and answer, gents, although I don't like the
>  answer.  I had thought that Ballard's 1623 was lost, but I didn't
>  realize it was so painfully recent.  So close, yet so far.  Another
>  thing for me to wake up nights wondering about...that and
>  Kapsperger's Libro secundo d'intavolatura di lauto (1619).
>  cheers,
>  tom
>__
>  From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  on
>   behalf
>  of Jean-Marie Poirier 
>  Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:54 AM
>  To: jo.lued...@t-online.de; 'Lute List'
>  Subject: [LUTE] Re: Ballard 1623 ?
>  Thank you Joachim ! It seems it's definitely a closed door then :-(
>   !
>  Al the best,
>  Jean-Marie
>  --
>  >Dear Jean-Marie:
>  >
>  >"BALLARD, Pierre (ed.). Tablature de Luth de differents auteurs sur
>  l'accord ordinaire et extraordinaire recueillie par P. Ballard,
>   Paris:
>  P. Ballard, 1623 (the title page alone was part of the collection of
>  March Pincherle, when this was auctioned in Paris [Hôtel Drouot], 3
>   to
>  5 March 1975 – its present whereabouts are unknown)."
>  >
>  >(From the source list of F.-P. Goy's thesis on the manuscript
>   sources
>  of music in Accords Nouveaux. This can be found in Andreas
>   Schlegel's
>  website accordsnouveaux.ch.)
>  >
>  >Best wishes,
>  >
>  >Joachim
>  >
>  >
>  >-Original-Nachricht-
>  >Betreff: [LUTE] Ballard 1623 ?
>  >Datum: 2017-03-15T10:03:06+0100
>  >Von: "Jean-Marie Poirier" 
>  >An: "'Lute List'" 
>  >
>  >Dear all,
>  >
>  >There are dozens of references circulating to Ballard's 1623
>  "Tablature de luth de differents auteurs sur l'accord ordinaire et
>  extraordinaire", declared "Lost"
>  >except its title page... I could not find a single reference giving
>  the whereabouts of this mysterious title-page.
>  >
>  >Would anyone on this list know where precisely this precious
>   document
>  is preserved ?
>  >
>  >Thank you for your feedback anyway !
>  >
>  >Best wishes to all,
>  >
>  >Jean-Marie Poirier
>  >
>  >
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[LUTE] Re: Page-Turners

2017-03-16 Thread Christopher Wilke
   Click the link to see one such device in action by a lute player. (For
   comparison, note the size of the sheet music on the violinist's stand,
   which she cut and taped to avoid page turns.)

   [1]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bp3I-xAExOI

   This particular device is called an Airturn. It's probably the same
   kind Landschoot was using. The older version had a blinking light on
   the side facing the audience. This has been changed in the newer
   version seen in the video.
   Chris
   [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

   On Thursday, March 16, 2017, 1:19 PM, John Mardinly
wrote:

 I attended a performance of the Sonoran Chamber Music Series where

 Professor Thomas Landschoot, cellist, used a foot operated page
   turner

 with a large format iPad pro. He also had a special music stand that

 held the iPad in a clamp so that it could not fall unless the entire

 stand was knocked over by a healthy kick. It worked flawlessly while

 the other performers struggled with conventional page turns. Well,
   yes,

 there is a risk of the software crashing, but it is probably less
   than

 the risk of grabbing two paper pages or knocking the entire paper
   score

 to the floor with a hasty grab. The only downside I saw was that the

 flashing red status LED was visible to the audience and was a little

 distracting. However, that could be easily concealed.

 A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.

 Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer

 On Mar 15, 2017, at 7:29 AM, Miles Dempster

 <[1][3]miles.demps...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Hello Edward,

 There have been positive comments on this list about using a tablet
   and

 foot-operated page turner.

 I'm thinking adopting this solution when the next iPad Pro is
   released,

 which I believe will be within a few weeks.

 Miles

   On Mar 15, 2017, at 9:25 AM, Edward Chrysogonus Yong

   <[2][4]edward.y...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Dear Lutenetters who play basso continuo,

 Is there a preference either way for playing from bass part or
   full

 score, assuming both have the same figures?

 I find that playing from a score means I can get my bearings
   better

   but

 have to flip pages more, no easy task when both hands are
   occupied

   with

 playing. That's when I sometimes wish I either played from a bass

   part

 to reduce page turns or had a page-turner. Does anyone use a

 page-turner?

 Curious to hear your thoughts.

 From sunny Singapore,

 Edward C. Yong

 

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   6. mailto:miles.demps...@gmail.com
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[LUTE] Re: Page-Turners

2017-03-16 Thread David van Ooijen
   I'm happy with ForScore on my iPad and an Airturn PED Bluetooth page
   turner. It works.

   On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 at 18:18, John Mardinly <[1]john.mardi...@asu.edu>
   wrote:

I attended a performance of the Sonoran Chamber Music Series
 where
Professor Thomas Landschoot, cellist, used a foot operated page
 turner
with a large format iPad pro. He also had a special music stand
 that
held the iPad in a clamp so that it could not fall unless the
 entire
stand was knocked over by a healthy kick. It worked flawlessly
 while
the other performers struggled with conventional page turns.
 Well, yes,
there is a risk of the software crashing, but it is probably less
 than
the risk of grabbing two paper pages or knocking the entire paper
 score
to the floor with a hasty grab. The only downside I saw was that
 the
flashing red status LED was visible to the audience and was a
 little
distracting. However, that could be easily concealed.
A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer
On Mar 15, 2017, at 7:29 AM, Miles Dempster
<[1][2]miles.demps...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Edward,
There have been positive comments on this list about using a
 tablet and
foot-operated page turner.
I'm thinking adopting this solution when the next iPad Pro is
 released,
which I believe will be within a few weeks.
Miles
  On Mar 15, 2017, at 9:25 AM, Edward Chrysogonus Yong
  <[2][3]edward.y...@gmail.com> wrote:
   Dear Lutenetters who play basso continuo,
   Is there a preference either way for playing from bass part or
 full
   score, assuming both have the same figures?
   I find that playing from a score means I can get my bearings
 better
  but
   have to flip pages more, no easy task when both hands are
 occupied
  with
   playing. That's when I sometimes wish I either played from a
 bass
  part
   to reduce page turns or had a page-turner. Does anyone use a
   page-turner?
   Curious to hear your thoughts.
   From sunny Singapore,
   Edward C. Yong
   
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3.
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   3. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com
   4. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmo
   5. mailto:miles.demps...@gmail.com
   6. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com
   7. 
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[LUTE] Re: Page-Turners

2017-03-16 Thread John Mardinly
   I attended a performance of the Sonoran Chamber Music Series where
   Professor Thomas Landschoot, cellist, used a foot operated page turner
   with a large format iPad pro. He also had a special music stand that
   held the iPad in a clamp so that it could not fall unless the entire
   stand was knocked over by a healthy kick. It worked flawlessly while
   the other performers struggled with conventional page turns. Well, yes,
   there is a risk of the software crashing, but it is probably less than
   the risk of grabbing two paper pages or knocking the entire paper score
   to the floor with a hasty grab. The only downside I saw was that the
   flashing red status LED was visible to the audience and was a little
   distracting. However, that could be easily concealed.

   A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
   Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer

   On Mar 15, 2017, at 7:29 AM, Miles Dempster
   <[1]miles.demps...@gmail.com> wrote:

   Hello Edward,
   There have been positive comments on this list about using a tablet and
   foot-operated page turner.
   I'm thinking adopting this solution when the next iPad Pro is released,
   which I believe will be within a few weeks.
   Miles

 On Mar 15, 2017, at 9:25 AM, Edward Chrysogonus Yong
 <[2]edward.y...@gmail.com> wrote:
  Dear Lutenetters who play basso continuo,
  Is there a preference either way for playing from bass part or full
  score, assuming both have the same figures?
  I find that playing from a score means I can get my bearings better
 but
  have to flip pages more, no easy task when both hands are occupied
 with
  playing. That's when I sometimes wish I either played from a bass
 part
  to reduce page turns or had a page-turner. Does anyone use a
  page-turner?
  Curious to hear your thoughts.
  From sunny Singapore,
  Edward C. Yong
  
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   2. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com
   3. 
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[LUTE] Gorzanis 1567

2017-03-16 Thread Wolfgang Wiehe
   Gorzanis, Giacomo: Tänze und Napolitanen - BSB Mus.ms. 1511 a [1567]

   [1]http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/…/0…/bsb00104621/images/
   cordial greetings
   w.

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[LUTE] Re: Ballard 1623 ?

2017-03-16 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Thanks Andreas, not a great solace anyway ;-) !

Best,

Jean-Marie



--
 
>Something taken from the book "The Lute in Europe 2":
>There is a total of 1,923 pieces in Accords nouveaux so far known in 42 
>manuscripts and 7 publications. Concerning the loss of sources suffice it here 
>to note, that following Mersenne, the printer Ballard published a collection 
>every year. From the 1623 edition only the title page is known, and only a 
>single copy survives of the 1631 and 1638 publications.
>Laurent Guillo: Pierre I Ballard et Robert III Ballard. Imprimeurs du roy pour 
>la musique (1599-1673), 2 Vols., Sprimont 2003. Here: Vol. II, p. 194 
>under 1623-J, pp. 256f. under 1631-D, and pp. 318f. under 1638-F. 
>
> 
>Am 16.03.2017 um 16:54 schrieb Thomas Walker :
>
>>   Thanks for the question and answer, gents, although I don't like the
>>   answer.  I had thought that Ballard's 1623 was lost, but I didn't
>>   realize it was so painfully recent.  So close, yet so far.  Another
>>   thing for me to wake up nights wondering about...that and
>>   Kapsperger's Libro secundo d'intavolatura di lauto (1619).
>>   cheers,
>>   tom
>> __
>> 
>>   From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  on behalf
>>   of Jean-Marie Poirier 
>>   Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:54 AM
>>   To: jo.lued...@t-online.de; 'Lute List'
>>   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Ballard 1623 ?
>> 
>>   Thank you Joachim ! It seems it's definitely a closed door then :-( !
>>   Al the best,
>>   Jean-Marie
>>   --
>> 
>>> Dear Jean-Marie:
>>> 
>>> "BALLARD, Pierre (ed.). Tablature de Luth de differents auteurs sur
>>   l'accord ordinaire et extraordinaire recueillie par P. Ballard, Paris:
>>   P. Ballard, 1623 (the title page alone was part of the collection of
>>   March Pincherle, when this was auctioned in Paris [Hôtel Drouot], 3 to
>>   5 March 1975 – its present whereabouts are unknown)."
>>> 
>>> (From the source list of F.-P. Goy's thesis on the manuscript sources
>>   of music in Accords Nouveaux. This can be found in Andreas Schlegel's
>>   website accordsnouveaux.ch.)
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Joachim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original-Nachricht-
>>> Betreff: [LUTE] Ballard 1623 ?
>>> Datum: 2017-03-15T10:03:06+0100
>>> Von: "Jean-Marie Poirier" 
>>> An: "'Lute List'" 
>>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> There are dozens of references circulating to Ballard's 1623
>>   "Tablature de luth de differents auteurs sur l'accord ordinaire et
>>   extraordinaire", declared "Lost"
>>> except its title page... I could not find a single reference giving
>>   the whereabouts of this mysterious title-page.
>>> 
>>> Would anyone on this list know where precisely this precious document
>>   is preserved ?
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your feedback anyway !
>>> 
>>> Best wishes to all,
>>> 
>>> Jean-Marie Poirier
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>   [2]Frequently Asked Technical Questions about the lute mail list
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>>   on and off the list; How do I get on the lute mail list? How do I get
>>   off the lute mail list?
>>> 
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>> 
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[LUTE] Re: Ballard 1623 ?

2017-03-16 Thread Andreas Schlegel
Something taken from the book "The Lute in Europe 2":
There is a total of 1,923 pieces in Accords nouveaux so far known in 42 
manuscripts and 7 publications. Concerning the loss of sources suffice it here 
to note, that following Mersenne, the printer Ballard published a collection 
every year. From the 1623 edition only the title page is known, and only a 
single copy survives of the 1631 and 1638 publications.
Laurent Guillo: Pierre I Ballard et Robert III Ballard. Imprimeurs du roy pour 
la musique (1599-1673), 2 Vols., Sprimont 2003. Here: Vol. II, p. 194 under 
1623-J, pp. 256f. under 1631-D, and pp. 318f. under 1638-F. 

 
Am 16.03.2017 um 16:54 schrieb Thomas Walker :

>   Thanks for the question and answer, gents, although I don't like the
>   answer.  I had thought that Ballard's 1623 was lost, but I didn't
>   realize it was so painfully recent.  So close, yet so far.  Another
>   thing for me to wake up nights wondering about...that and
>   Kapsperger's Libro secundo d'intavolatura di lauto (1619).
>   cheers,
>   tom
> __
> 
>   From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  on behalf
>   of Jean-Marie Poirier 
>   Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:54 AM
>   To: jo.lued...@t-online.de; 'Lute List'
>   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Ballard 1623 ?
> 
>   Thank you Joachim ! It seems it's definitely a closed door then :-( !
>   Al the best,
>   Jean-Marie
>   --
> 
>> Dear Jean-Marie:
>> 
>> "BALLARD, Pierre (ed.). Tablature de Luth de differents auteurs sur
>   l'accord ordinaire et extraordinaire recueillie par P. Ballard, Paris:
>   P. Ballard, 1623 (the title page alone was part of the collection of
>   March Pincherle, when this was auctioned in Paris [Hôtel Drouot], 3 to
>   5 March 1975 – its present whereabouts are unknown)."
>> 
>> (From the source list of F.-P. Goy's thesis on the manuscript sources
>   of music in Accords Nouveaux. This can be found in Andreas Schlegel's
>   website accordsnouveaux.ch.)
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Joachim
>> 
>> 
>> -Original-Nachricht-
>> Betreff: [LUTE] Ballard 1623 ?
>> Datum: 2017-03-15T10:03:06+0100
>> Von: "Jean-Marie Poirier" 
>> An: "'Lute List'" 
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> There are dozens of references circulating to Ballard's 1623
>   "Tablature de luth de differents auteurs sur l'accord ordinaire et
>   extraordinaire", declared "Lost"
>> except its title page... I could not find a single reference giving
>   the whereabouts of this mysterious title-page.
>> 
>> Would anyone on this list know where precisely this precious document
>   is preserved ?
>> 
>> Thank you for your feedback anyway !
>> 
>> Best wishes to all,
>> 
>> Jean-Marie Poirier
>> 
>> 
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[LUTE] Re: Continuo: Score vs Part; also Page-Turners

2017-03-16 Thread Max Langer
Otherwise music students is a fantastic page turning technology.

Max

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On 15 March 2017 at 17:53, guy_and_liz Smith  wrote:
> A  melody line is handy, especially for recitative but I'd rather not deal 
> with a full score. Too many page turns.
>
> A related question: what did continuo players use back in the day, i.e., when 
> did we start publishing part music as a score? That's a common practice in 
> modern editions, but most of the 16th and early 17th century music that I've 
> played in various wind bands was originally published as individual parts, 
> often in separate books (Gesualdo being a notable exception). Most of the 
> Baroque music I've played (mainly opera and orchestral continuo) was in 
> (relatively) modern editions, so I'm not sure about the originals. At least 
> some Baroque music that I'm familiar with (Castello, for example), was 
> published as part music; continuo is just another part book.
>
> Guy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf 
> Of howard posner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 9:17 AM
> To: Lute List
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Continuo: Score vs Part; also Page-Turners
>
> It’s always nice to have the score, or the melodic line, in the continuo 
> part.  I’ve done a lot of cutting and pasting to avoid inconvenient page 
> turns.
>
>> On Mar 15, 2017, at 6:25 AM, Edward Chrysogonus Yong  
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Dear Lutenetters who play basso continuo,
>>   Is there a preference either way for playing from bass part or full
>>   score, assuming both have the same figures?
>
>
>
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