[LUTE] Re: Guillemette

2017-10-20 Thread Sean Smith
A texted version (Cantus and Bassus parts included) of “Tant vous allez douce 
Guillemette” is found in Emanuel Adriaensen’s _Pratum Musicum…_, Antwerp, 
1584^6 where it is attributed to Abrahan. Howard Mayer Brown gives RISM 1564^11.

Sean


> On Oct 19, 2017, at 7:31 AM, Isabelle Villey  wrote:
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>   Dear Lute list,
>   Working on the different tablature versions of Guillemette, I would be
>   grateful to any of you that could help me to get the Thysius version.(f
>   ° 510, La Guillemette).
>   I don't know where I can find it on the web.
>   I am also looking for some information about the source of this song or
>   dance.
>   Thanks in advance for any help
>   Isabelle
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[LUTE] Re: Buying a Lute

2017-10-20 Thread Daniel Shoskes
What I said had nothing to do with iconographic thumb position in baroque lute 
and your point had nothing to do with Ido’s question. Thumb out, which is the 
historical baroque lute RH position and classical guitar position have 
similarities. Theorbo, depending how it’s held, often requires more external 
wrist rotation, and given the usual modern practice of single stringing, use of 
RH nails and due to the tuning system, many classical guitarists have told me 
the theorbo is the most similar RH natural transition. But Ido wants to buy and 
play baroque lute, which is a fine choice and which indeed will allow his thumb 
to remain out.

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Ron Andrico  wrote:
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> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  
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> on behalf of Daniel Shoskes  >
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 9:59 PM
> To: Ido Shdaimah
> Cc: Lute List
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Buying a Lute
> 
> " It’s actually the theorbo that has the hand position most similar to 
> classical guitar..."
> 
> The historical right-hand position for baroque lute is with the thumb 
> stretched out and the fingers perpendicular to the strings.  I would like to 
> see a single historical example of iconography that depicts thumb under on a 
> baroque lute.
> 
> RA


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