[LUTE] Re: mirror site
I would be. David Sent from my iPad > On Oct 15, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. wrote: > > Hi, all. > Is anyone interested in hosting a mirror site for my website? Although > I have the data backed up locally, I would like to make sure that the > data remains intact in case of a catastrophe, or my demise. > The advantage of having a mirror site is that you have local access to > all the files without having to download anything. Another advantage is > that your site will be updated automatically whenever I update mine, so > you data will always be up to date. A disadvantage is that it takes up > space -- 6.6 GB at present, including facsimiles; a little over ½ a GB > without the facsimiles. It's nice to have the facsimiles locally, > though, so you can refer to them. I have the pages laid out as > individual files, the file name being the page or folio number, so it's > very easy to find particular pages without having to search through a > PDF. > The site is currently being mirrored in the [1]Russian website, but I > cannot do the automatic update with this site, so it doesn't have the > latest and greatest. > Any takers? > --Sarge > -- > Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. ([2]sa...@gerbode.net) > 11132 Dell Ave > Forestville, CA 95436-9491 > Home phone: 707-820-1759 > Website: [3]http://www.gerbode.net > "The map may not be the territory, but it's all we've got." > > -- > > References > > 1. http://www.lute.ru/gerbode > 2. mailto:sa...@gerbode.net > 3. http://www.gerbode.net/ > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] mirror site
Hi, all. Is anyone interested in hosting a mirror site for my website? Although I have the data backed up locally, I would like to make sure that the data remains intact in case of a catastrophe, or my demise. The advantage of having a mirror site is that you have local access to all the files without having to download anything. Another advantage is that your site will be updated automatically whenever I update mine, so you data will always be up to date. A disadvantage is that it takes up space -- 6.6 GB at present, including facsimiles; a little over ½ a GB without the facsimiles. It's nice to have the facsimiles locally, though, so you can refer to them. I have the pages laid out as individual files, the file name being the page or folio number, so it's very easy to find particular pages without having to search through a PDF. The site is currently being mirrored in the [1]Russian website, but I cannot do the automatic update with this site, so it doesn't have the latest and greatest. Any takers? --Sarge -- Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. ([2]sa...@gerbode.net) 11132 Dell Ave Forestville, CA 95436-9491 Home phone: 707-820-1759 Website: [3]http://www.gerbode.net "The map may not be the territory, but it's all we've got." -- References 1. http://www.lute.ru/gerbode 2. mailto:sa...@gerbode.net 3. http://www.gerbode.net/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A strange "error" in Maestro
Are those false relations? I can't remember. But this would be normal, they occur in English music frequently and are intended that way. On 15.10.19 08:48, Alain Veylit wrote: I cannot read this thread without thinking about Spinacino's duets, particularly the setting of Ghiselin's Jolis amours: are the notes wrong or is it our ears? Yet, I had found a very convincing rendition of that duet a while ago on the Net, played as printed 500 years ago (already!) -- I believe Karl-Ernst Schröder was on one of the 2 lutes -- Helas, I can no longer find that particular recording on the Internet any longer. One trick they used to make the half-tone clashes sound better was to play the piece very fast. It works. Spinacino's "J'ay pris amours" is still there on YouTube but it is less striking as an example of utter dissonance to modern ears - see [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljcq1ETbXkI Anyways, I hope nobody tries to correct Thelonious Monk (or Luigi Nono) in the future... At least, they will have the recordings, something they did not have in 1510 Italy ... And remember: wrong notes should always be accented, otherwise they sound like a mistake. On 10/14/19 2:57 PM, Ron Andrico wrote: Depending upon the circumstance, I always resist the urge to improve upon the choices made by an historical composer, scribe or publisher. If performing a piece for the entertainment of myself or others, anything goes. But if editing for the purpose of publishing an edition of historical music, I feel that one should just let it be if it is not a mistake (missing measures, wrong cipher on wrong line). Improving upon the original is a slippery slope, and it is a wee bit presumptuous to think that, with centuries of hindsight and examples like Wagner and Charles Ives, we know better than the old ones. If we decide to improve upon the historical music that has come down to us, what is next? Synthetic strings? Amplified lutes? Music performed from ipad? RA __ From: [2]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu [3] on behalf of Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. [4] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:17 PM Cc: [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu [6] Subject: [LUTE] Re: A strange "error" in Maestro I always feel compelled to "correct" these instances, because to me it just does not sound right as is, and it's no big deal to play the 4 on the next course. To me, the bottom line is what sounds good. --Sarge On 10/14/2019 13:34, [7]r.ba...@gmx.de wrote: > Something a bit similar is where one finds a cadential ornament with > frets 2 1 2 1 2 1 0 1 2 , instead of going down to the 4 on the next > string in place of the zero. One finds this occasionally in German tab > sources and I assume elsewhere. I've always found it rather bizarre. > But if it goes by quickly, I guess it could work.) -- Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. ([8]sa...@gerbode.net) 11132 Dell Ave Forestville, CA 95436-9491 Home phone: 707-820-1759 Website: [1][9]http://www.gerbode.net "The map may not be the territory, but it's all we've got." To get on or off this list see list information at [2][10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [11]http://www.gerbode.net/ 2. [12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljcq1ETbXkI 2. mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 3. mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 4. mailto:sa...@gerbode.net 5. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 6. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. mailto:r.ba...@gmx.de 8. mailto:sa...@gerbode.net 9. http://www.gerbode.net/ 10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 11. http://www.gerbode.net/ 12. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A strange "error" in Maestro
Am Dienstag, 15. Oktober 2019 08:48 CEST, Alain Veylit schrieb: >I cannot read this thread without thinking about Spinacino's duets, >particularly the setting of Ghiselin's Jolis amours: are the notes >wrong or is it our ears? Yet, I had found a very convincing rendition >of that duet a while ago on the Net, played as printed 500 years ago >(already!) -- I believe Karl-Ernst Schröder was on one of the 2 lutes That would be from the lute duet CD of Crawford Young and Karl-Ernst Schröder. Cheers, RalfD -- Ralf Mattes Hochschule für Musik Freiburg Projektleitung HISinOne Schwarzwaldstr. 141, D-79102 Freiburg http://www.mh-freiburg.de To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A strange "error" in Maestro
I cannot read this thread without thinking about Spinacino's duets, particularly the setting of Ghiselin's Jolis amours: are the notes wrong or is it our ears? Yet, I had found a very convincing rendition of that duet a while ago on the Net, played as printed 500 years ago (already!) -- I believe Karl-Ernst Schröder was on one of the 2 lutes -- Helas, I can no longer find that particular recording on the Internet any longer. One trick they used to make the half-tone clashes sound better was to play the piece very fast. It works. Spinacino's "J'ay pris amours" is still there on YouTube but it is less striking as an example of utter dissonance to modern ears - see [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljcq1ETbXkI Anyways, I hope nobody tries to correct Thelonious Monk (or Luigi Nono) in the future... At least, they will have the recordings, something they did not have in 1510 Italy ... And remember: wrong notes should always be accented, otherwise they sound like a mistake. On 10/14/19 2:57 PM, Ron Andrico wrote: Depending upon the circumstance, I always resist the urge to improve upon the choices made by an historical composer, scribe or publisher. If performing a piece for the entertainment of myself or others, anything goes. But if editing for the purpose of publishing an edition of historical music, I feel that one should just let it be if it is not a mistake (missing measures, wrong cipher on wrong line). Improving upon the original is a slippery slope, and it is a wee bit presumptuous to think that, with centuries of hindsight and examples like Wagner and Charles Ives, we know better than the old ones. If we decide to improve upon the historical music that has come down to us, what is next? Synthetic strings? Amplified lutes? Music performed from ipad? RA __ From: [2]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu [3] on behalf of Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. [4] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:17 PM Cc: [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu [6] Subject: [LUTE] Re: A strange "error" in Maestro I always feel compelled to "correct" these instances, because to me it just does not sound right as is, and it's no big deal to play the 4 on the next course. To me, the bottom line is what sounds good. --Sarge On 10/14/2019 13:34, [7]r.ba...@gmx.de wrote: > Something a bit similar is where one finds a cadential ornament with > frets 2 1 2 1 2 1 0 1 2 , instead of going down to the 4 on the next > string in place of the zero. One finds this occasionally in German tab > sources and I assume elsewhere. I've always found it rather bizarre. > But if it goes by quickly, I guess it could work.) -- Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. ([8]sa...@gerbode.net) 11132 Dell Ave Forestville, CA 95436-9491 Home phone: 707-820-1759 Website: [1][9]http://www.gerbode.net "The map may not be the territory, but it's all we've got." To get on or off this list see list information at [2][10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [11]http://www.gerbode.net/ 2. [12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljcq1ETbXkI 2. mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 3. mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 4. mailto:sa...@gerbode.net 5. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 6. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. mailto:r.ba...@gmx.de 8. mailto:sa...@gerbode.net 9. http://www.gerbode.net/ 10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 11. http://www.gerbode.net/ 12. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
