[LUTE] Eugene Dombois Wikipedia page

2019-11-18 Thread Ed Durbrow
   Almost a year ago I attempted to make a Wikipedia entry for Eugene
   Dombois. This is my first attempt to produce content for Wikipedia and
   I don’t know what I’m doing. I could not publish the page and I think
   the message was that it needed to be reviewed. I never heard back.
   Could we make this a group effort? Or barring that, could anyone offer
   help or advice on how to bring this page to fruition? It is a travesty
   that he doesn’t have a Wiki entry.

   [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Edurbrow/sandbox

   This page has been deleted. The deletion, protection, and move log for
   the page are provided below for reference.
 * 12:06, 25 October 2019 [2]Edgar181 [3]talk [4]contribs deleted page
   [5]User:Edurbrow/sandbox ([6]G8: Page dependent on a deleted or
   nonexistent page)
 * 16:16, 1 March 2019 [7]CNMall41 [8]talk [9]contribs moved page
   [10]User:Edurbrow/sandbox to [11]Draft:Eugen Müller Dombois
   (Preferred location for [12]AfC submissions)

   I have the content in a Pages (OS X) document on my computer.
   Ed Durbrow
   Saitama, Japan
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   4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Edgar181
   5. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Edurbrow/sandbox=edit=1
   6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#G8
   7. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CNMall41
   8. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CNMall41
   9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/CNMall41
  10. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Edurbrow/sandbox=no=edit=1
  11. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Eugen_Müller_Dombois=edit=1
  12. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AFC
  13. http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch
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  15. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/


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[LUTE] Re: historically accurate concerts

2019-11-18 Thread Roland Hayes
   I have played Weiss at a candle lit Advent labyrinth for a church. Like
   a slow meditative walk.

   This year I am playing deVisee on theorbo.

   Preludes work well. Gavottes and gigues not so much.

   The biggest problem is lighting to see the music.

   r

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   From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
on behalf of George Torres
   
   Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:41:56 PM
   To: Tristan von Neumann 
   Cc: Lute List 
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: historically accurate concerts

  Eight hours?  That's a heck of a party!  Nevertheless,
   congratulations
  Tristan!
  Peripherally related, and just for kicks and giggles…the following
  quotes are from the Burwell lute tutor:
  "The lute is a noble instrument, not made for debaucheries, ranting
   or
  playing in the streets to give serenades to Signora Isabella.  ‘Tis
   a
  grave and serious music for modest and sober persons, and for the
  cabinet rather than for a public place…this instrument requireth
  silence and a serious attention."
  "The lute is a closet instrument that will suffer the company of but
   a
  few hearers, and such as have a delicate ear, for the pearls are not
   to
  be cast before the swine."
  "To play in taverns, that never happened but to a man in Paris (who
   was
  paid for his abuse by some learned of the lute, that made cinnamon
  beaten in breaking the lute upon his head) "
  Cheers,
  Jorge
  On Nov 18, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Tristan von Neumann
  <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:
  Here's one thought:
  Lute concerts are often given in large halls or churches, though
   they
  are not really attracting a huge crowd.
  Huge crowds are also not really the setting in which lutenists
  florished
  back then.
  Recently, I had been invited to play the lute at a 30something
   birthday
  party on saturday night, a crowd of about 40 people max. Not one of
   the
  guests had probably ever heard Renaissance music.
  The host assured me that he wanted this and would deny any requests
   for
  other music from the stereo.
  It was a two bedroom late 1800s apartment with 11.5 ft./3.50m
   ceilings
  and all doors were open, I played in a 215 sqft/20 m � room where I
   sat
  on a chair in the corner at a table lit with a lamp.
  So I played straight from my 500+ p. book (message me if you are
  interested in my selection), for about 8 hours (it actually felt
   more
  like two).
  There was no programme, I just selected pieces on the fly according
   to
  "room temperature". There were sight-reading glitches, but no one
  noticed or cared.
  The reactions were very positive and no one complained about the
   music
  though most of the people normally listened to house, electro and
   other
  non-early musical styles.
  The music was described as:
  * never annoying
  * with a huge range of emotions
  * very pleasant for conversation
  * very interesting to listen to if you care to come close
  * filling the whole apartment (!)
  This was probably a setting more historically accurate than
   listening
  to
  French chanson intabulations in a church.
  The acoustics were perfect for a full and clear sound.
  I found this house concert situation very pleasing. You need to say
  goodbye to silence though. But having conversations to lute music is
   a
  whole other experience, as is playing lute for people not
   consciously
  listening most of the time.
  You end up with two or three people sitting closer and listening,
   the
  rest enjoying the atmosphere.
  I would highly recommend this experience.
  What are your experiences with house concerts? Has anyone ever
   played
  in
  the background?
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[LUTE] Re: historically accurate concerts

2019-11-18 Thread Tristan von Neumann
   Well, the circle of people was not like I felt I was cast peals before
   the swine. :)

   And I had to play, because any music from the stereo would have
   destroyed the experience.

   The instrument felt very appreciated.

   On 18.11.19 19:41, George Torres wrote:

   Eight hours? �That's a heck of a party! �Nevertheless, congratulations
   Tristan!

   Peripherally related, and just for kicks and giggles…the following
   quotes are from the Burwell lute tutor:

   "The lute is a noble instrument, not made for debaucheries, ranting or
   playing in the streets to give serenades to Signora Isabella. � ‘Tis a
   grave and serious music for modest and sober persons, and for the
   cabinet rather than for a public place…this instrument requireth
   silence and a serious attention."

   "The lute is a closet instrument that will suffer the company of but a
   few hearers, and such as have a delicate ear, for the pearls are not to
   be cast before the swine."

   "To play in taverns, that never happened but to a man in Paris (who was
   paid for his abuse by some learned of the lute, that made cinnamon
   beaten in breaking the lute upon his head) "
   Cheers,
   Jorge

   On Nov 18, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Tristan von Neumann
   <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:

   Here's one thought:
   Lute concerts are often given in large halls or churches, though they
   are not really attracting a huge crowd.
   Huge crowds are also not really the setting in which lutenists
   florished
   back then.
   Recently, I had been invited to play the lute at a 30something birthday
   party on saturday night, a crowd of about 40 people max. Not one of the
   guests had probably ever heard Renaissance music.
   The host assured me that he wanted this and would deny any requests for
   other music from the stereo.
   It was a two bedroom late 1800s apartment with 11.5 ft./3.50m ceilings
   and all doors were open, I played in a 215 sqft/20 m � room where I sat
   on a chair in the corner at a table lit with a lamp.
   So I played straight from my 500+ p. book (message me if you are
   interested in my selection), for about 8 hours (it actually felt more
   like two).
   There was no programme, I just selected pieces on the fly according to
   "room temperature". There were sight-reading glitches, but no one
   noticed or cared.
   The reactions were very positive and no one complained about the music
   though most of the people normally listened to house, electro and other
   non-early musical styles.
   The music was described as:
   * never annoying
   * with a huge range of emotions
   * very pleasant for conversation
   * very interesting to listen to if you care to come close
   * filling the whole apartment (!)
   This was probably a setting more historically accurate than listening
   to
   French chanson intabulations in a church.
   The acoustics were perfect for a full and clear sound.
   I found this house concert situation very pleasing. You need to say
   goodbye to silence though. But having conversations to lute music is a
   whole other experience, as is playing lute for people not consciously
   listening most of the time.
   You end up with two or three people sitting closer and listening, the
   rest enjoying the atmosphere.
   I would highly recommend this experience.
   What are your experiences with house concerts? Has anyone ever played
   in
   the background?
   To get on or off this list see list information at
   [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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[LUTE] Re: historically accurate concerts

2019-11-18 Thread George Torres
   Eight hours?  That's a heck of a party!  Nevertheless, congratulations
   Tristan!

   Peripherally related, and just for kicks and giggles…the following
   quotes are from the Burwell lute tutor:

   "The lute is a noble instrument, not made for debaucheries, ranting or
   playing in the streets to give serenades to Signora Isabella.  ‘Tis a
   grave and serious music for modest and sober persons, and for the
   cabinet rather than for a public place…this instrument requireth
   silence and a serious attention."

   "The lute is a closet instrument that will suffer the company of but a
   few hearers, and such as have a delicate ear, for the pearls are not to
   be cast before the swine."

   "To play in taverns, that never happened but to a man in Paris (who was
   paid for his abuse by some learned of the lute, that made cinnamon
   beaten in breaking the lute upon his head) "
   Cheers,
   Jorge

   On Nov 18, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Tristan von Neumann
   <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:

   Here's one thought:
   Lute concerts are often given in large halls or churches, though they
   are not really attracting a huge crowd.
   Huge crowds are also not really the setting in which lutenists
   florished
   back then.
   Recently, I had been invited to play the lute at a 30something birthday
   party on saturday night, a crowd of about 40 people max. Not one of the
   guests had probably ever heard Renaissance music.
   The host assured me that he wanted this and would deny any requests for
   other music from the stereo.
   It was a two bedroom late 1800s apartment with 11.5 ft./3.50m ceilings
   and all doors were open, I played in a 215 sqft/20 m � room where I sat
   on a chair in the corner at a table lit with a lamp.
   So I played straight from my 500+ p. book (message me if you are
   interested in my selection), for about 8 hours (it actually felt more
   like two).
   There was no programme, I just selected pieces on the fly according to
   "room temperature". There were sight-reading glitches, but no one
   noticed or cared.
   The reactions were very positive and no one complained about the music
   though most of the people normally listened to house, electro and other
   non-early musical styles.
   The music was described as:
   * never annoying
   * with a huge range of emotions
   * very pleasant for conversation
   * very interesting to listen to if you care to come close
   * filling the whole apartment (!)
   This was probably a setting more historically accurate than listening
   to
   French chanson intabulations in a church.
   The acoustics were perfect for a full and clear sound.
   I found this house concert situation very pleasing. You need to say
   goodbye to silence though. But having conversations to lute music is a
   whole other experience, as is playing lute for people not consciously
   listening most of the time.
   You end up with two or three people sitting closer and listening, the
   rest enjoying the atmosphere.
   I would highly recommend this experience.
   What are your experiences with house concerts? Has anyone ever played
   in
   the background?
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   [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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[LUTE] Re: historically accurate concerts

2019-11-18 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Well, that's a truly flattering firing :-)

Francesco

> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu  mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> Per conto di Frank A. Gerbode, M.D.
> Inviato: lunedì 18 novembre 2019 16:17
> A: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: historically accurate concerts
> 
> I had a gig in an art gallery a few years ago.  I got fired after awhile, 
> because
> people were paying too much attention to me and not enough to the art!
> 
> --Sarge
> 
> On 11/18/2019 05:48, Tristan von Neumann wrote:
> > Here's one thought:
> >
> > Lute concerts are often given in large halls or churches, though they
> > are not really attracting a huge crowd.
> >
> > Huge crowds are also not really the setting in which lutenists
> > florished back then.
> >
> >
> > Recently, I had been invited to play the lute at a 30something
> > birthday party on saturday night, a crowd of about 40 people max. Not
> > one of the guests had probably ever heard Renaissance music.
> >
> > The host assured me that he wanted this and would deny any requests
> > for other music from the stereo.
> >
> > It was a two bedroom late 1800s apartment with 11.5 ft./3.50m ceilings
> > and all doors were open, I played in a 215 sqft/20 m² room where I sat
> > on a chair in the corner at a table lit with a lamp.
> >
> > So I played straight from my 500+ p. book (message me if you are
> > interested in my selection), for about 8 hours (it actually felt more
> > like two).
> >
> > There was no programme, I just selected pieces on the fly according to
> > "room temperature". There were sight-reading glitches, but no one
> > noticed or cared.
> >
> > The reactions were very positive and no one complained about the music
> > though most of the people normally listened to house, electro and
> > other non-early musical styles.
> >
> > The music was described as:
> >
> > * never annoying
> >
> > * with a huge range of emotions
> >
> > * very pleasant for conversation
> >
> > * very interesting to listen to if you care to come close
> >
> > * filling the whole apartment (!)
> >
> > This was probably a setting more historically accurate than listening
> > to French chanson intabulations in a church.
> >
> > The acoustics were perfect for a full and clear sound.
> >
> >
> > I found this house concert situation very pleasing. You need to say
> > goodbye to silence though. But having conversations to lute music is a
> > whole other experience, as is playing lute for people not consciously
> > listening most of the time.
> >
> > You end up with two or three people sitting closer and listening, the
> > rest enjoying the atmosphere.
> >
> > I would highly recommend this experience.
> >
> >
> > What are your experiences with house concerts? Has anyone ever played
> > in the background?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To get on or off this list see list information at
> > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> >
> 
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> Forestville, CA 95436-9491
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[LUTE] Re: historically accurate concerts

2019-11-18 Thread Frank A. Gerbode, M.D.
I had a gig in an art gallery a few years ago.  I got fired after 
awhile, because people were paying too much attention to me and not 
enough to the art!


--Sarge

On 11/18/2019 05:48, Tristan von Neumann wrote:

Here's one thought:

Lute concerts are often given in large halls or churches, though they
are not really attracting a huge crowd.

Huge crowds are also not really the setting in which lutenists florished
back then.


Recently, I had been invited to play the lute at a 30something birthday
party on saturday night, a crowd of about 40 people max. Not one of the
guests had probably ever heard Renaissance music.

The host assured me that he wanted this and would deny any requests for
other music from the stereo.

It was a two bedroom late 1800s apartment with 11.5 ft./3.50m ceilings
and all doors were open, I played in a 215 sqft/20 m² room where I sat
on a chair in the corner at a table lit with a lamp.

So I played straight from my 500+ p. book (message me if you are
interested in my selection), for about 8 hours (it actually felt more
like two).

There was no programme, I just selected pieces on the fly according to
"room temperature". There were sight-reading glitches, but no one
noticed or cared.

The reactions were very positive and no one complained about the music
though most of the people normally listened to house, electro and other
non-early musical styles.

The music was described as:

* never annoying

* with a huge range of emotions

* very pleasant for conversation

* very interesting to listen to if you care to come close

* filling the whole apartment (!)

This was probably a setting more historically accurate than listening to
French chanson intabulations in a church.

The acoustics were perfect for a full and clear sound.


I found this house concert situation very pleasing. You need to say
goodbye to silence though. But having conversations to lute music is a
whole other experience, as is playing lute for people not consciously
listening most of the time.

You end up with two or three people sitting closer and listening, the
rest enjoying the atmosphere.

I would highly recommend this experience.


What are your experiences with house concerts? Has anyone ever played in
the background?






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Home phone:  707-820-1759
Website:  http://www.gerbode.net
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[LUTE] historically accurate concerts

2019-11-18 Thread Tristan von Neumann

Here's one thought:

Lute concerts are often given in large halls or churches, though they
are not really attracting a huge crowd.

Huge crowds are also not really the setting in which lutenists florished
back then.


Recently, I had been invited to play the lute at a 30something birthday
party on saturday night, a crowd of about 40 people max. Not one of the
guests had probably ever heard Renaissance music.

The host assured me that he wanted this and would deny any requests for
other music from the stereo.

It was a two bedroom late 1800s apartment with 11.5 ft./3.50m ceilings
and all doors were open, I played in a 215 sqft/20 m² room where I sat
on a chair in the corner at a table lit with a lamp.

So I played straight from my 500+ p. book (message me if you are
interested in my selection), for about 8 hours (it actually felt more
like two).

There was no programme, I just selected pieces on the fly according to
"room temperature". There were sight-reading glitches, but no one
noticed or cared.

The reactions were very positive and no one complained about the music
though most of the people normally listened to house, electro and other
non-early musical styles.

The music was described as:

* never annoying

* with a huge range of emotions

* very pleasant for conversation

* very interesting to listen to if you care to come close

* filling the whole apartment (!)

This was probably a setting more historically accurate than listening to
French chanson intabulations in a church.

The acoustics were perfect for a full and clear sound.


I found this house concert situation very pleasing. You need to say
goodbye to silence though. But having conversations to lute music is a
whole other experience, as is playing lute for people not consciously
listening most of the time.

You end up with two or three people sitting closer and listening, the
rest enjoying the atmosphere.

I would highly recommend this experience.


What are your experiences with house concerts? Has anyone ever played in
the background?






To get on or off this list see list information at
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[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

2019-11-18 Thread Tristan von Neumann

What's with this thing about "historic accuracy" anyway?


I am pretty sure people back then weren't half as dogmatic as
historically informed musicians today.

Depictions of ensembles often seem quite random in their choice of
instruments.

Also, what's the point of this scene:

"Hey guys, I have copied some new pieces for theorbo!"

- "Sorry dude, I only have a tiorbino. My theorbo is in the workshop.
Better luck next time!"

Music is better than no music.

So if you have an instrument that can play the pieces in question, then
use it...

I play 10 course music all the time on my 7c. lute. Sacrilege? I think not.

Back in the day, if someone had a smaller lute, they would still be
interested in the latest music.



On 18.11.19 14:10, Jurgen Frenz wrote:

If I understand it well the tiorbini is tuned one octave higher than a standard 
theorbo - hence you can play anything for theorbo, if you don't mind historic 
accuracy but just pure fun.
Jurgen


--
“Close your eyes. Fall in love. Stay there.”

Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Monday, November 18, 2019 3:50 PM, Susan Price 
 wrote:


I've had a tiorbino before and I find it awesome for playing solo
theorbo music. It sounds muck like a small harp. I even played De Visee
on it and twas divine.

Susan

 Original message 
From: yuval.dvo...@posteo.de
Date: 11/17/19 9:47 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: Lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Tiorbino

Hello all,
I was offered a Tiorbino, and I'm wondering what one can do with it
(except of playing Bellerofonte-Castaldi): Are there any proofs that it
was used for playing solo instead of a big theorbo or for playing
continuo?
And is there any literature about it apart from the article by Nocerino
(2005)?
Thanks and regards a usual :-)
Yuval
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[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

2019-11-18 Thread Jurgen Frenz
If I understand it well the tiorbini is tuned one octave higher than a standard 
theorbo - hence you can play anything for theorbo, if you don't mind historic 
accuracy but just pure fun.
Jurgen


--
“Close your eyes. Fall in love. Stay there.”

Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Monday, November 18, 2019 3:50 PM, Susan Price 
 wrote:

> I've had a tiorbino before and I find it awesome for playing solo
> theorbo music. It sounds muck like a small harp. I even played De Visee
> on it and twas divine.
>
> Susan
>
>  Original message 
> From: yuval.dvo...@posteo.de
> Date: 11/17/19 9:47 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: Lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [LUTE] Tiorbino
>
> Hello all,
> I was offered a Tiorbino, and I'm wondering what one can do with it
> (except of playing Bellerofonte-Castaldi): Are there any proofs that it
> was used for playing solo instead of a big theorbo or for playing
> continuo?
> And is there any literature about it apart from the article by Nocerino
> (2005)?
> Thanks and regards a usual :-)
> Yuval
> To get on or off this list see list information at
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html






[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

2019-11-18 Thread Susan Price
   I've had a tiorbino before and I find it awesome for playing solo
   theorbo music. It sounds muck like a small harp. I even played De Visee
   on it and twas divine.

   Susan

    Original message 
   From: yuval.dvo...@posteo.de
   Date: 11/17/19 9:47 AM (GMT-07:00)
   To: Lute 
   Subject: [LUTE] Tiorbino

   Hello all,
   I was offered a Tiorbino, and I'm wondering what one can do with it
   (except of playing Bellerofonte-Castaldi): Are there any proofs that it
   was used for playing solo instead of a big theorbo or for playing
   continuo?
   And is there any literature about it apart from the article by Nocerino
   (2005)?
   Thanks and regards a usual :-)
   Yuval
   To get on or off this list see list information at
   http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html