[LUTE] Re: Unison C string on 8c lutes
Hello Leonard, I meticulously play every day as a warm up simple notes on all courses with the goal to create the "perfect" attack which is the fingers and thumb engage both strings at the same time. There is a video on YT that shows it quite well by David van Ooiyen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh0X4U6h7DM Of course doing so repeatedly with the hope that in time it becomes automatic. For the rest I have no complaints at all about an octave string on the 5th course, but it also depends on the music played. Good luck Jurgen -- “Close your eyes. Fall in love. Stay there.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, November 28, 2019 2:33 AM, Leonard Williams wrote: > I, too have had issues with octaves on the 5th course of my 8 > course lute. I tried it several years ago, using an octave half the > diameter of the bass (all in gut). But, whereas the octave g on 6th > blended well with its bass, the octave c stood out, sounding jangly, > almost as though I had a metal string on there. Perhaps it was poor > (thumb-in in this case) technique? At any rate, I switched back to > unison. > I'm trying octaves again as a result of this discussion, same > stringing. One thing I paid careful attention to was the height of the > octave: it stood a mere half millimeter above the bass at the bridge, > but enough that I was striking the pair of strings unevenly, with the > octave ringing out quite plainly. I adjusted the bridge knot, what > little I could, and the sound improved somewhat. Perhaps further work > with RH technique will further improve the sound. Or--any other > suggestions?? > Regards to all, and Happy (US) Thanksgiving! > Leonard Williams > On 23 nov. 2019, at 13:17, Jurgen Frenz > <[1]eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello there, > > > > > > I have an 8c lute now since 10 months and from the beginning I'm > > > "unhappy" with the sound of the unison C strings on it. I changed > > the > > > plain Aquila strings to round-wound Aquilas but to me it sounds > > quite > > > the same. What I'm missing is the high frequencies that we have on > > 6c > > > instruments with the octave string. In my mind I call the current > > sound > > > "plastic-y". The maker of the instrument suggested to try out the > > > Savarez early music strings but I do not think I would recover high > > > frequencies with them. > > > > > > Any remedies that you have tried out with success other than "just > > get > > > used to it"? An octave string shouldn't be a good idea because it > > would > > > confuse voices. > > > > > > Hoping for some suggestions, > > > Jurgen > > > > > > > > > "Close your eyes. Fall in love. Stay there." > > > > > > JalÃl ad-DÃ «n Muhammad Rumi > > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > > [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > > References > > 1. mailto:eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com > 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Unison C string on 8c lutes
I, too have had issues with octaves on the 5th course of my 8 course lute. I tried it several years ago, using an octave half the diameter of the bass (all in gut). But, whereas the octave g on 6th blended well with its bass, the octave c stood out, sounding jangly, almost as though I had a metal string on there. Perhaps it was poor (thumb-in in this case) technique? At any rate, I switched back to unison. I'm trying octaves again as a result of this discussion, same stringing. One thing I paid careful attention to was the height of the octave: it stood a mere half millimeter above the bass at the bridge, but enough that I was striking the pair of strings unevenly, with the octave ringing out quite plainly. I adjusted the bridge knot, what little I could, and the sound improved somewhat. Perhaps further work with RH technique will further improve the sound. Or--any other suggestions?? Regards to all, and Happy (US) Thanksgiving! Leonard Williams On 23 nov. 2019, at 13:17, Jurgen Frenz <[1]eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com> wrote: > Hello there, > > I have an 8c lute now since 10 months and from the beginning I'm > "unhappy" with the sound of the unison C strings on it. I changed the > plain Aquila strings to round-wound Aquilas but to me it sounds quite > the same. What I'm missing is the high frequencies that we have on 6c > instruments with the octave string. In my mind I call the current sound > "plastic-y". The maker of the instrument suggested to try out the > Savarez early music strings but I do not think I would recover high > frequencies with them. > > Any remedies that you have tried out with success other than "just get > used to it"? An octave string shouldn't be a good idea because it would > confuse voices. > > Hoping for some suggestions, > Jurgen > > -- > "Close your eyes. Fall in love. Stay there." > > JalÃl ad-Dà «n Muhammad Rumi > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] A comedy of errors
Dear lute netters, Luys Milan is not known to have composed chromatic fantasias. However, in his Fantasia 27 (Maestro, K3r-K5r/1) the sequence 34543 (on the same string) appears 4 (four) times. See bars 93, 96, 123, and 127. This is plain nonsense but apparently Milan hasn't noticed. These errors are not mentioned in the errata list at the end of the book. I have no explanation how this could happen. Rainer PS in the complete Maestro on the Fronimo group page the errors are tacitly corrected but not mentioned either. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] SLOW DANCE, an easy lute piece
[1]https://youtu.be/roSR8MEoIOA With kind regards, Met vriendelijke groeten, Bien cordialement, Gilbert Isbin [2]www.gilbertisbin.com [3]gilbert.is...@gmail.com -- References 1. https://youtu.be/roSR8MEoIOA 2. http://www.gilbertisbin.com/ 3. mailto:gilbert.is...@gmail.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
