[LUTE] Ciaconna

2007-01-29 Thread Clauss Gilbert
Hello, 
I am looking for the Grove's article about Passacaille (i have the one about
chaconne but it's not same as everybody knows :-)
Could anyone send it to me ? 
Thank you 
 
Gilbert 

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[LUTE] Re: Paris 5.-12.10.?

2006-09-28 Thread Clauss Gilbert
for concerts see also : http://www.abeilleinfo.com/result_concert.php 

Good luck !

GC

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De : Clauss Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Envoyé : jeudi 28 septembre 2006 12:06
À : Arto Wikla; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Objet : [LUTE] Re: Paris 5.-12.10.?

For a museum with lutes theorbos, go to the Cite de la Musique (tube station
: Porte de Pantin) info in english :
http://www.cite-musique.fr/anglais/accueil.html

An early music shop : la Maison de la Musique Ancienne (tube station
Oberkampf or Saint-Ambroise), opened from Tuesdays to Saturdays, 10:30 am
-12:30 and 2 pm - 7 pm info : http://www.musiqueancienne.com/

For concerts, buy Pariscope or l'Officiel des Spectacles, try the Societe
Francaise de Luth website :
http://www.sf-luth.org/?Concerts_2006/Microfilms/Octobre
There are several viol concerts (Marain Marais) at Versailles at the time,
but i'm afraid they are full : try this site :
http://www.cmbv.com/fr/event/fsevent.htm or the one of the viol society :
http://www.violedegambe.org/sfv/lobby/index.php


Gilbert 

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2006 11:37 À : lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : [LUTE] Paris 5.-12.10.?


Dear all, 

one friend of mine, who only reads this list, doesn't write, asked me to ask
the List something

This friend is a lute and theorbo player, and she is going to Paris 5th
October.  She would like to have advice and ideas about
  - (early) music shops
  - museums (with lutes and theorboes ;-)
  -  early music concerts
  -  etc. lute, theorbo, early music events, places, ...

Perhaps the answers interests also other List readers?

All the best,

Arto



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[LUTE] Re: Paris 5.-12.10.?

2006-09-28 Thread Clauss Gilbert
For a museum with lutes theorbos, go to the Cite de la Musique (tube station
: Porte de Pantin) info in english :
http://www.cite-musique.fr/anglais/accueil.html

An early music shop : la Maison de la Musique Ancienne (tube station
Oberkampf or Saint-Ambroise), opened from Tuesdays to Saturdays, 10:30 am
-12:30 and 2 pm - 7 pm info : http://www.musiqueancienne.com/

For concerts, buy Pariscope or l'Officiel des Spectacles, try the Societe
Francaise de Luth website :
http://www.sf-luth.org/?Concerts_2006/Microfilms/Octobre
There are several viol concerts (Marain Marais) at Versailles at the time,
but i'm afraid they are full : try this site :
http://www.cmbv.com/fr/event/fsevent.htm or the one of the viol society :
http://www.violedegambe.org/sfv/lobby/index.php


Gilbert 

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De : Arto Wikla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Envoyé : jeudi 28 septembre 2006 11:37
À : lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Objet : [LUTE] Paris 5.-12.10.?


Dear all, 

one friend of mine, who only reads this list, doesn't write, asked me to ask
the List something

This friend is a lute and theorbo player, and she is going to Paris 5th
October.  She would like to have advice and ideas about
  - (early) music shops
  - museums (with lutes and theorboes ;-)
  -  early music concerts
  -  etc. lute, theorbo, early music events, places, ...

Perhaps the answers interests also other List readers?

All the best,

Arto



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[LUTE] test, sorry

2006-03-16 Thread Clauss Gilbert


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Envoye : jeudi 16 mars 2006 12:47
A : lute list
Objet : [LUTE] Re: Tinctoris


> When some kind of meantone tuning was used this could explain the use of 
> the
> 5th fret.

Not for a fifth fret on the sixth course in meantone fretting. Same as open 
5th course.

David



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RE: Lute Society was Re: N*geria Scams

2004-06-09 Thread Clauss Gilbert
Hi Stewart, your archives are nearly as good as those of the KGB and CIA
together :-) 

-Message d'origine-
De : Stewart McCoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : mercredi 9 juin 2004 15:48
À : Lute Net
Objet : Lute Society was Re: N*geria Scams


Dear Arthur,

I have done a quick search through my computer archives, and the
only references I can find to the "Lute Society of Great Britain"
are these:

1) Me in a message to this list on 11th July 2000: "I wrote
something similar to what I have to say here for the News Magazine
of the Lute Society of Great Britain, but I cannot put my hands on
the relevant issue."

2) Stuart Mayes in a message sent to this list by Roman Turovsky on
18th September 2001: "As a long-standing member of the Lute Society
of Great Britain, I have
long been fascinated with the life and works of the English Lute
composer/performer John Danyel (1564-1626), brother of Samuel of
'Delia' fame."

3) Monica Hall writing to the Spanish Lute List ("Vihuelista") on
3rd May 2000, when she wrote: "Soy miembro de la 'Lute Society of
Great Britain' ."

4) Chris Goodwin's Lute Society message dated 7th January 2004 about
the Nigerian scam. After the information on the scam there is
mention of the "Lute Society of Great Britain" in connection with
concerts to be given by Ben Salfield.

My guess is that you read about the "Lute Society of Great Britain"
in this message from Chris Goodwin, because we have been discussing
recently what Chris had to say about the Nigerian scam. (This would
make the title of this thread more appropriate than perhaps you had
imagined. :-)  )

It makes sense to refer to the Lute Society as British, if one is
mentioning it alongside other lute societies. That's probably why I
used the phrase back in 2000, to avoid confusion with the American
Lute Society. I agree with you that the Lute Society set up by Diana
Poulton and Ian Harwood in the 1950s was the first lute society, and
was created for everone in the world, no matter which country they
happen to come from.

Like you I prefer to save the phrase "The Lute Society" for the
British
lute society. There was some confusion a while ago, when John
Buckman used the phrase "Lute Society" for his lute website, but I
can't remember how this was resolved. At least one subscriber to
this list refers to the list as the "lute society", which could be
misleading. I prefer "Lute Net" or "Lute List".

There is a parallel situation with the Viola da Gamba Society, which
was started 1948. For many
years they have referred to themselves as "The Viola da Gamba
Society of Great Britain". At least that's what you will see on the
front of their Newsletter and in their "Sup Pubs" (music
publications). They describe their journal, _Chelys_, as "The
Journal of the Viola da Gamba Society" [no "Great Britain"]. Their
website doesn't mention "Great Britain" either.

I don't suppose these things matter too much. The main thing is to
be clear about who is who.

All the best,

Stewart.



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Subject: Lute Society was Re: N*geria Scams


> Yes, I saw the designation "Lute Society of Great Britiain" from
someone on
> this list, and thought the Society had altered its name.  I can't
remember
> who it was, but it was someone I thought would be in a position to
know.
>
> When I wrote to Chris, I asked. He said there had been no change.
I too
> see no reason to change, since the Lute Society was the first on
the scene
> and surely has always intended to serve the whole lute world.  And
the
> officers and administrator have been doing a commendable job for
all of us.
> And back in the 1950s, who would have thought there would be so
many
> lutenists that national societies would be necessary.
>
> The most localized society is surely the Dutch Lute Society.
Nearly 100%
> of the some 200 members live in Holland.  The last time I checked,
sveral
> years ago, only 10 persons lived outside of Holland.  Could that
mean that
> the Netherlands has more lutenists per square mile than any other
country
> in the Western World?
>
> arthur.
> ===Simon said==
>   Just a small correction to something Arthur said:
>
> "The message was a genuine warning from Chris Goodwin
(lutesocol.com),
> administrator of the Lute Society of Great Britain (as they now
call
> themselves)."
>
> In fact the Lute Society based in the UK, of which Chris Goodwin
is
> secretary, is called just that: the Lute Society, plain and
simple, and has
> no plans to change the name.  In fact it is especially appropriate
since,
> as Chris tells me, more than 50% of members live overseas.
>
> Simon Lambert
> Oxford, England
> <>
>
>






RE: Goodbye!

2004-05-24 Thread Clauss Gilbert
Arto, 
Using this list as a political tribune is a waste of time more than a
scandal : most musicians seem not to have waited for you to decide what they
thought of wars and torture. Don't preach to the converted, you might be
counterproductive :-) 

GC

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De : Arto Wikla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : lundi 24 mai 2004 00:45
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Goodbye!



Dear lutenists, _really dear_ lutenists!

To me the previous events in the world, those that I could even call 
"war crimes" and "crimes against humanity", have occurred to me so 
horrible and so serious that I really have to work with my attitude to
the USA altogether. So, I'll quit from writing to the lute list - to
prevent my perhaps unbiased insults to my American friends! If Wayne
accepts, I'll still read the list, though...  

See and hear you; "don't know where, don't know when"... 
And all the best to all of you!

I know I should have not written "politics" here! But this is the last 
time! And from "politics" to "moral" there is a difference. Torturing
human beings concerns the "moral", not just the "politics"...

Sorry for this mail and sorry for the world! Goodbye!

Arto





RE: CDs

2003-11-06 Thread Clauss Gilbert
Sorry : there are two JS Bach (not De Visee as I said) theorbo CDs by Pascal
Monteilhet (one Virgin, another one Zig-Zag Territoires). Both are his own
transcriptions for the theorbo of the cello suites.

GC




RE: CDs

2003-11-06 Thread Clauss Gilbert
There are two De Visée CDs by Monteilhet (one Virgin + one Zig-Zag
territoires)

-Message d'origine-
De : Roman Turovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : mercredi 5 novembre 2003 14:03
À : Stephan Olbertz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: CDs


Monteilhet also has 2 excellent CDs on theorbo: one De Visee, and one Bach
theorbo transcriptions of cello suites.
RT
> Has anyone mentioned Pascal Montheilhet so far? His
> Dufaut and Gallot recording on Virgin is really good.
> It should still be available through amazon.fr, but I
> think I got my copy through ebay. It's a shame that
> wonderful recordings disappear today after just some
> years. You should however try internet shops from other
> countries if "your" amazon or other stores can't help
> you. Often you still get CDs of English
> artists/music/labels in the UK, French in France and so
> on.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Stephan
> 
> Am 4 Nov 2003 um 17:11 hat Edward Martin geschrieben:
> 
>> Vieux (Ennemond) Gaultier  has his works scattered in various sources.
>> The most commonly known ones are the pieces from Minkoff, and The
>> Perrine MS as well.  For some of the lovely settings on Hoppy's CD, I
>> have found the A Major pieces in the Robards lute book.
>> 
>> Of all the 11 course French CD's, I agree, that Hopkinson Smith's old
>> Vieux Gaultier is the best.  Schaffer's is also wonderful.  There is
>> an old LP on (I think) Telefunken, of Toyohiko Satoh, with a 2-record
>> set of French music, and this ranks up among the very, very best.  Too
>> bad it is not re-issued on CD.  But, Toyohiko has another excellent
>> French CD on Channel Classics, on an old 1613 lute by Laurentius
>> Greiff.  It is also very, very good.
>> 
>> Let us not forget Stephen Stubbs doing Jacques Saont Luc.
>> 
>> ed
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 09:26 PM 11/4/03 +0100, Gernot Hilger wrote:
>>> Dear list,
>>> 
 Hopkinson Smith: Vieux Gaultier, Pi?s de luth (appeared in 1988,
 reissued in 2000. Astr? This is my absolute favourite.
>>> 
>>> Same for me. Glorious music.
>>> 
>>> Please excuse an ignorant question, could somebody point me towards a
>>> source for the score for these Ennemond Gaultier pieces? g
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 





RE: MP3's

2003-11-03 Thread Clauss Gilbert
Don't forget Mezangeau, which I would call 10 c. baroque...

GC

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Envoyé : lundi 3 novembre 2003 13:59
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : MP3's



In the new year I shall be giving some illustrated lectures on the
history of the lute.

I need to access some MP3 recordings of the various types of instrument
and typical repertoire.

I shall be illustrating the following:

   Mediaeval, 6course ren, 8c. ren, 10 c ren, 11c Bar, 13c Bar, Archlute, 
theorbo and liuto   
   attiorbato.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Anthony





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RE: CNRS

2003-10-16 Thread Clauss Gilbert
Dear Martin and all
Unfortunately, I don't think the CNRS will reissue these books (in short :
no more subsisdies from the government). 
I have most of the CNRS baroque lute books, except the Gauthier's I think.
If you wish me to photocopy the concordances, or other reasonable number of
pages, just let me know (I don't think I'll go to jail !), I will send them
to you. 
Best wishes

Gilbert

-Message d'origine-
De : Martin Shepherd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : jeudi 16 octobre 2003 10:21
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : CNRS


Dear All,

It always happens, doesn't it?  You don't buy a book because it's not
central to your interests, then years later you get interested in it and
find it is out of print.

That's the sorry state I find myself in with respect to CNRS Corpus des
Luthistes.  I have Mesangeau and Le Roy's Instructions, and nothing else.
Now I want Gaultier, Dufault, Dubut, etc., etc.  While I'm at it I'd like de
Rippe as well...

I have much of this material in facsimile, so my interest is often in lists
of concordances (and doubtless the old CNRS ones are out of date).

Can anyone offer any help?  If anyone has old CNRS volumes they're willing
to sell, I would be interested.  If anyone can point me to useful sources of
concordances, that would good too.  If anyone can tell me that CNRS are just
about to reissue updated versions of all these books, my gast  (du Gast?
sorry) would be completely flabbered.

Best wishes,

Martin








Painting in France at the time of the Sautschecks

2003-10-10 Thread Clauss Gilbert
An exhibition on that subject will take place at the National Gallery of
Art, Washington until january 11 th, later in Berlin (closer to Sautscheck's
place of composition). If you like Fragonard, Watteau or Chardin... 

Gilbert CLAUSS