[LUTE] Lute Repair Needed Near Phoenix, AZ
I have a 1968 David Rubio lute that is in need of some considerable repair in order to make it play well again. The top has split along the glue line for most of its length, and there were quite a few rattles internally, suggesting that the fan bracing (Rubio lutes have fan bracing) may be partially delaminated. The rattles have disappeared after being in Arizona for three years, but I suspect that they will return eventually unless something is done about them. The big issue on playability is the action. The entire body/neck structure has deformed and the action cannot be restored by lowering the saddle (Rubio lutes also have a saddle in the bridge, as well as metal frets) because the mounting holes for the strings are so high that the the strings would rattle if the saddle was lowered any more. The need for a low action comes from my affliction of chronic tendinitis that has plagued me for ~38 years. If anyone on this list feels they are capable of taking on this project or knows of someone who would be capable, please contact me. Thank you. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu";>john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: 480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: 480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: 480-727-5653 2010F Lab: 480-727-5654 Office: 480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: beginners, and practicalities of buying lutes
Indeed the price of new lutes is too low. I bought my Rubio in 1968 with excess money left over from a summer job while I was an undergraduate student. I was just astounded at how much craftsmanship I got for $600. Maybe that is why Rubio eventually quit making lutes and switched to harpsichords. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: 480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: 480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: 480-727-5653 2010F Lab: 480-727-5654 Office: 480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Martin Shepherd Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:15 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: beginners, and practicalities of buying lutes Well, Roman, I can see why you upset a few people. I think mentioning lute makers or players by name, whether what you say about them is positive or negative, is just a bad idea - and arguably downright rude. If your comment is positive, someone reading it might wonder if you have an axe (sorry, no pun intended) to grind; if negative, your opinion is hard to judge and is almost inevitably biased and based on limited evidence. The price of a lute is difficult to make a judgement about. The price of new lutes is way too low - consider what a decent hand-made cello would cost! That's not because cello makers are greedy people, it's just that the price of a cello more accurately reflects the amount of work and expertise which goes into it. Even a cello maker earns less than a plumber or electrician. The price of secondhand lutes is more difficult. A good lute gets better with age, and perhaps the price should reflect that, but it's surprising how few people ask more than they paid, even if they've had the lute for a number of years. So sometimes there are excellent bargains to be had in the "for sale" columns. My site also has a page on buying a lute, including advice on what to look for in a secondhand lute. All the best, Martin On 15/10/2014 17:30, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: > Dear Collective Wisdom, > Recently I had a few unpleasant conversations with some lute sellers, > whose sales were thwarted by the advice given by me. > Therefore I've decided to update and revise an old article of mine to > reflect the practicalities of buying used lutes. So now I'm canvassing > for ideas that can be added to it - > http://polyhymnion.org/swv/theaxe.html > Reply publicly! > RT > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Strings for heavier lute
Charles; I had always used Pyramid strings on my Rubio Lute, and they sounded so great I tried them on my Velazquez guitar and they sounded terrible. I now use Savarez 520B on my guitar and they sound good enough-maybe I had it backwards! I should try Savarez guitar strings on my lute as soon as I get it back from Mel Wong. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:04 PM, "Charles Mokotoff" <[10]mokot...@gmail.com> wrote: List, I know, from my recent post, there are a minority of players on this list who either own heavier non-historical instruments or own and actually play them. I am in the latter group, with a 1977 Papazian. I have tried a variety of strings, and its the trebles that seem the toughest to get right. Too thick and they may snap, or be just impossible to tune (I'd be better with geared rollers I know), too thin and the instrument sounds thin and reedy. I suspect if I were to tune this beast in F it would solve a lot of problems, but am doing ensemble work mostly. That said, I have been discovering that low tension guitar strings work fine for the basses. E.g., a 4th string will serve as a 5th course nicely. I am going to try the same pattern: a 5th guitar string for the sixth course, and a sixth for the 7th and 8th fundamentals.A Currently I am using a KF 74 for the fourth which is surprisingly very good. I tried a guitar string 3rd, Carbon Fiber for the fifth course but it was awfully wimpy sounding. I was wondering if anyone else had ideas on this or has actually tried guitar strings as well and what the results were. I know the lutes vary widely, mine is 64 cm and I am keeping it tuned in G. Thanks. Charles -- To get on or off this list see list information at [11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:mokot...@gmail.com 11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.
I built a "Roller Nut" for my Rubio lute, which used wound Pyramid strings, many years ago. It was not too difficult because I had access to a dental drill that I used as a lathe. The rollers were delrin and the 'axle' was a piece of unwound piano string. It worked like a charm. I can send a photograph to anyone who is interested, although I do not have dimensions or assembly instructions at this time. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:15 AM, "Sean Smith" <[10]lutesm...@mac.com> wrote: Hi Herbert, I have never heard of this problem on the 4th course with gut so I'll assume you use metal wound strings. I'll admit it's an assumption that could be false or you may be using a plastic of some sort. It would be helpful to know in any event. Using a string made up of coils that are harder than the nut material could well have printed those coils on the groove of the nut, especially if you have used a high tension or the nut is old or of soft material or it has sat a long time at tension. The nut we use for gut wasn't imagined to work this way with metal coils. The lute was designed with a bone/ivory/wood nut that is harder than the gut string. The gut spreads out to the smooth nut surface under tension and at no point does it "dig in" (I'm not sure a plastic string spreads like this but I doubt it). Using gut (and a little beeswax now and then) I have no trouble adjusting the pitch - assuming the strings and frets are true. Citterns, orpharions and bandoras that use metal strings have the lesser bend like the guitars you mention. It solves the bend/tension problem for the materials given. If you're inclined to use modern stringing and don't mind modern workarounds, you might consider a modern angle to accomodate it. Or maybe a steel nut ... and WD-40. It would be less colorful than 15 different loops of yarn though. Sean On Nov 11, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Herbert Ward wrote: The bent-back pegbox means that a lute has 7.5 times as much friction at the nut as a guitar, taking angles of 10 degrees for the guitar and 80 for the lute. For the strings attached to the farthest pegs (say, the fourth course) this friction causes trouble because the strings stick at the nut during tuning. Graphite lubrication never helped me much. Nor did tugging at the string, though it seems this should work when tuning downward. To fix the problem, I tied a loop of ordinary household twine around the string in the peg- box, and MOVED IT AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE NUT. Now I adjust the peg, and then give a momentary tug on the loop. The tug pulls the string almost completely away from the nut, and thus equalizes the tension along the entire length of the string. In response, the pitch immediately and reliably reflects the slightest movement of the peg (in either direction), as with a harp. A side-benefit is that the peg stays pushed in longer, since the peg is turned so little. Of course, if you put loops on multiple strings, then you have a mass of loops from which it is difficult to find the one you need. I've ordered a skein of multi-colored knitting yarn to see whether color-coding will reduce this problem. To get on or off this list see list information at [11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:lutesm...@mac.com 11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.
Dan; Can you elaborate? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Nov 11, 2014, at 4:33 PM, "Dan Winheld" <[10]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote: Squirrels can't hold on to them- boxer shorts can't contain them- but lutenists LOVE them SLIPPERY NUTS! On 11/11/2014 8:14 AM, Sean Smith wrote: Hi Herbert, I have never heard of this problem on the 4th course with gut so I'll assume you use metal wound strings. I'll admit it's an assumption that could be false or you may be using a plastic of some sort. It would be helpful to know in any event. Using a string made up of coils that are harder than the nut material could well have printed those coils on the groove of the nut, especially if you have used a high tension or the nut is old or of soft material or it has sat a long time at tension. The nut we use for gut wasn't imagined to work this way with metal coils. The lute was designed with a bone/ivory/wood nut that is harder than the gut string. The gut spreads out to the smooth nut surface under tension and at no point does it "dig in" (I'm not sure a plastic string spreads like this but I doubt it). Using gut (and a little beeswax now and then) I have no trouble adjusting the pitch - assuming the strings and frets are true. Citterns, orpharions and bandoras that use metal strings have the lesser bend like the guitars you mention. It solves the bend/tension problem for the materials given. If you're inclined to use modern stringing and don't mind modern workarounds, you might consider a modern angle to accomodate it. Or maybe a steel nut ... and WD-40. It would be less colorful than 15 different loops of yarn though. Sean On Nov 11, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Herbert Ward wrote: The bent-back pegbox means that a lute has 7.5 times as much friction at the nut as a guitar, taking angles of 10 degrees for the guitar and 80 for the lute. For the strings attached to the farthest pegs (say, the fourth course) this friction causes trouble because the strings stick at the nut during tuning. Graphite lubrication never helped me much. Nor did tugging at the string, though it seems this should work when tuning downward. To fix the problem, I tied a loop of ordinary household twine around the string in the peg- box, and MOVED IT AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE NUT. Now I adjust the peg, and then give a momentary tug on the loop. The tug pulls the string almost completely away from the nut, and thus equalizes the tension along the entire length of the string. In response, the pitch immediately and reliably reflects the slightest movement of the peg (in either direction), as with a harp. A side-benefit is that the peg stays pushed in longer, since the peg is turned so little. Of course, if you put loops on multiple strings, then you have a mass of loops from which it is difficult to find the one you need. I've ordered a skein of multi-colored knitting yarn to see whether color-coding will reduce this problem. To get on or off this list see list information at [11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net 11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.
Dan; Can you elaborate on this material/technique? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Nov 11, 2014, at 4:33 PM, "Dan Winheld" <[10]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote: Squirrels can't hold on to them- boxer shorts can't contain them- but lutenists LOVE them SLIPPERY NUTS! On 11/11/2014 8:14 AM, Sean Smith wrote: Hi Herbert, I have never heard of this problem on the 4th course with gut so I'll assume you use metal wound strings. I'll admit it's an assumption that could be false or you may be using a plastic of some sort. It would be helpful to know in any event. Using a string made up of coils that are harder than the nut material could well have printed those coils on the groove of the nut, especially if you have used a high tension or the nut is old or of soft material or it has sat a long time at tension. The nut we use for gut wasn't imagined to work this way with metal coils. The lute was designed with a bone/ivory/wood nut that is harder than the gut string. The gut spreads out to the smooth nut surface under tension and at no point does it "dig in" (I'm not sure a plastic string spreads like this but I doubt it). Using gut (and a little beeswax now and then) I have no trouble adjusting the pitch - assuming the strings and frets are true. Citterns, orpharions and bandoras that use metal strings have the lesser bend like the guitars you mention. It solves the bend/tension problem for the materials given. If you're inclined to use modern stringing and don't mind modern workarounds, you might consider a modern angle to accomodate it. Or maybe a steel nut ... and WD-40. It would be less colorful than 15 different loops of yarn though. Sean On Nov 11, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Herbert Ward wrote: The bent-back pegbox means that a lute has 7.5 times as much friction at the nut as a guitar, taking angles of 10 degrees for the guitar and 80 for the lute. For the strings attached to the farthest pegs (say, the fourth course) this friction causes trouble because the strings stick at the nut during tuning. Graphite lubrication never helped me much. Nor did tugging at the string, though it seems this should work when tuning downward. To fix the problem, I tied a loop of ordinary household twine around the string in the peg- box, and MOVED IT AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE NUT. Now I adjust the peg, and then give a momentary tug on the loop. The tug pulls the string almost completely away from the nut, and thus equalizes the tension along the entire length of the string. In response, the pitch immediately and reliably reflects the slightest movement of the peg (in either direction), as with a harp. A side-benefit is that the peg stays pushed in longer, since the peg is turned so little. Of course, if you put loops on multiple strings, then you have a mass of loops from which it is difficult to find the one you need. I've ordered a skein of multi-colored knitting yarn to see whether color-coding will reduce this problem. To get on or off this list see list information at [11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net 11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute iconography in pop-culture parody
He probably picked it up from Gamut during their Black Friday sale.. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Dec 3, 2014, at 12:11 PM, "Dan Winheld" <[10]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote: Definitely tongue out. Quite appropriate for this period & genre. On 12/3/2014 10:50 AM, Braig, Eugene wrote: Do with this information whatever you deem appropriate: [11]http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/2014/12/weird-al-snapchat-gq.ht ml Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at [12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net 11. http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/2014/12/weird-al-snapchat-gq.html 12. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute iconography in pop-culture parody
So is Weird Al a "Thumb Under" or a "Thumb Out" guy? Sent from my iPhone. John Mardinly 408 921 3253 > On Dec 3, 2014, at 2:00 PM, "Braig, Eugene" wrote: > > . . . or out thereof. > > Eugene > > -Original Message- > From: Heartistry Old [mailto:t...@heartistrymusic.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 3:58 PM > To: Dan Winheld > Cc: Edward Martin; John Mardinly; Braig, Eugene; Lute Dmth > (lute@cs.dartmouth.edu) > Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Lute iconography in pop-culture parody > > Tongue-in-cheek ... > > Tom Draughon > Heartistry Music > www.heartistry.com > 715-682-9362 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 3, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Dan Winheld wrote: >> >> Not anymore! But they are indisputably HIS licks. (Look it up in >> Likkapedia...:-P ) >> >>> On 12/3/2014 11:59 AM, Heartistry Old wrote: >>> But ... are they hot licks? >>> >>>> On Dec 3, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Edward Martin wrote: >>>> >>>> Definitely, he is playing his licks. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 1:20 PM, John Mardinly >>>> <[1]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> A A He probably picked it up from Gamut during their Black Friday >>>> A A sale.. >>>> A A A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. >>>> A A Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer >>>> A A EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu >>>> A A Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) >>>> A A Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 >>>> A A NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 >>>> A A JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 >>>> A A 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 >>>> A A Office: [7]480-965-7946 >>>> A A John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS >>>> A A B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building >>>> A A Arizona State University >>>> A A [8]PO Box 871704 >>>> A A [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 >>>> A A On Dec 3, 2014, at 12:11 PM, "Dan Winheld" >>>> <[10][2]dwinh...@lmi.net> >>>> A A wrote: >>>> A A Definitely tongue out. Quite appropriate for this period & genre. >>>> A A On 12/3/2014 10:50 AM, Braig, Eugene wrote: >>>> A A A Do with this information whatever you deem appropriate: >>>> A A >>>> A [11][3]http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/2014/12/weird-al-snapchat-gq. >>>> ht >>>> A A A ml >>>> A A A Eugene >>>> A A A To get on or off this list see list information at >>>> A A A [12][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>>> A A -- >>>> References >>>> A A 1. mailto:[5]john.mardi...@asu.edu >>>> A A 2. tel:[6]408-921-3253 >>>> A A 3. tel:[7]480-727-5651 >>>> A A 4. tel:[8]480-727-5652 >>>> A A 5. tel:[9]480-727-5653 >>>> A A 6. tel:[10]480-727-5654 >>>> A A 7. tel:[11]480-965-7946 >>>> A A 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ >>>> A A 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ >>>> A 10. mailto:[12]dwinh...@lmi.net >>>> A 11. >>>> [13]http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/2014/12/weird-al-snapchat-gq.html >>>> A 12. [14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> References >>>> >>>> 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu >>>> 2. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net >>>> 3. http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/2014/12/weird-al-snapchat-gq.ht >>>> 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>>> 5. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu >>>> 6. tel:408-921-3253 >>>> 7. tel:480-727-5651 >>>> 8. tel:480-727-5652 >>>> 9. tel:480-727-5653 >>>> 10. tel:480-727-5654 >>>> 11. tel:480-965-7946 >>>> 12. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net >>>> 13. http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/2014/12/weird-al-snapchat-gq.html >>>> 14. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >
[LUTE] Re: Help for installation of geared pegs.
Mel Wong will be installing these pegs in my 1968 Rubio as part of the restoration. He has used them in the past and reports excellent results. They are also relatively inexpensive. I am looking forward to the experience. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Nov 29, 2014, at 8:22 AM, "Herbert Ward" <[10]wa...@physics.utexas.edu> wrote: I'm considering installation of geared pegs on my lute. The website ([11]http://www.pegheds.com) says that any qualified repair person can do the installation. But that is probably for violins, cellos, etc. Would a violin repair person be able to do the installation? Are there fundamental differences between a violin pegbox and a lute pegbox? Would a cello repair person be better than a violin repair person? Of my 13 pegs, 10 wind internally to the pegbox, and 3 wind externally. My understanding is that the external pegs require special attention. So I will, at first, install only 10 geared pegs. To get on or off this list see list information at [12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:wa...@physics.utexas.edu 11. http://www.pegheds.com/ 12. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: those sarabands
A notable characteristic of many Piazzolla tangos is that they are not intended for dancing. That is a contributing factor to the many death threats that he faced during his lifetime. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:06 AM, "Dan Winheld" <[10]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote: I would like to add that dance tempo changes still happen as music usage & composer's whims dictate. Astor Piazzolla scandalized the traditional tango world with his "Tango Nuevo" (however he phrased it) There are now some very dark, slow, & rhythmically variable "tangos" out there now. Some can even work on a good lute. Dan On 12/18/2014 8:41 AM, Dan Winheld wrote: I am very glad that you were all sarabound to get out of that sarabind. It's been a very interesting & educational discussion, addressing an annoying little uncertainty that has never been so directly & comprehensively addressed to my satisfaction before. Way back in the 1980's my wife and I were a bass viol & virginal duo named "Sarabande", we played gigs all over the SE Pennsylvania, southern New Jersey & northern Delaware region. For wedding gigs we had to adapt pavins, allemandes, (even the occasional saraband) and Masque dances to actual movements; processionals and somewhat more vigorous recessionals. No lute problems, never used my lutes for these gigs! The highlight engagement was an all-out period gig at the Dupont estate- live candles all over a huge fir tree, and more candles throughout the rooms as the only source of illumination (reading the music was a chore, one learns why earlier generations went to bed or early or went blind if they worked late) thousands of yards of 18 century drapes, table cloths, & clothing in a Colonial era wooden mansion. I had my eyes on the fastest escape routes all through the evening. Dan On 12/18/2014 6:06 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: I think you were - the relevant quotes are taken exactly from the emails you sent earlier (now deleted from your reply) and were not edited by me in any way! Ah well - but good that it's finally now agreed there ought to be some relationship between a solo lute performance of a dance and the tempo at which was danced. Martyn __ To get on or off this list see list information at [11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net 11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: those sarabands
Dan; For that Dupont estate hazard, you could have done what the famous pianist, Jon Nakamatsu did the last time I saw him-he walked on stage carrying a fire extinguisher. Really. Of course, that was after the auditorium had been cleared by a fire alarm false alert and the concert was resuming-it was a gag. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Dec 18, 2014, at 9:42 AM, "Dan Winheld" <[10]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote: I am very glad that you were all sarabound to get out of that sarabind. It's been a very interesting & educational discussion, addressing an annoying little uncertainty that has never been so directly & comprehensively addressed to my satisfaction before. Way back in the 1980's my wife and I were a bass viol & virginal duo named "Sarabande", we played gigs all over the SE Pennsylvania, southern New Jersey & northern Delaware region. For wedding gigs we had to adapt pavins, allemandes, (even the occasional saraband) and Masque dances to actual movements; processionals and somewhat more vigorous recessionals. No lute problems, never used my lutes for these gigs! The highlight engagement was an all-out period gig at the Dupont estate- live candles all over a huge fir tree, and more candles throughout the rooms as the only source of illumination (reading the music was a chore, one learns why earlier generations went to bed or early or went blind if they worked late) thousands of yards of 18 century drapes, table cloths, & clothing in a Colonial era wooden mansion. I had my eyes on the fastest escape routes all through the evening. Dan On 12/18/2014 6:06 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: I think you were - the relevant quotes are taken exactly from the emails you sent earlier (now deleted from your reply) and were not edited by me in any way! Ah well - but good that it's finally now agreed there ought to be some relationship between a solo lute performance of a dance and the tempo at which was danced. Martyn ___ ___ To get on or off this list see list information at [11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net 11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Avoiding cracks and lute parts getting unglued - dry weather
After nearly four years in the Phoenix, Arizona area, my sense is that winter just about anywhere is worse on instruments than summer in the desert. So, don't knock the desert. Maybe the best place to take the instruments in winter would be South America or Australia. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Jan 12, 2015, at 3:33 PM, "Leonard Williams" <[10]arc...@verizon.net> wrote: I've been using the smaller of the two case humidifiers made by Planet Waves, purchased online. It come with a small humidifier that gets charged with distilled water and fastens to the case lining via velcro (adhesive dots supplied). It also has a separate electronic humidistat so you can see what the conditions are in the case. Both are slim ellipsoid devices that fit in the case well. I keep the humidifier in the peg head end of the case, not touching the instrument. It seems to work pretty well, though I have had occasional slipping pegs in the winter. Then again, I have very dry, central hot air heating and it must be like a desert in my house this time of year. Regards and good luck! Leonard Williams On 1/11/15, 9:52 AM, "Susanne Herre" <[11]mandolinens...@web.de> wrote: Dear lute friends, It's winter time, so e.g. in Central Europe here it can be quite dry outside. As a result of a train trip on one of those dry days the table of my baroque mandolin loosened from the body although I avoided to put my instrument next to heatings and put some water inside the case. What might be the reasons of those things happening? Is it about the changing from the train to the outside e.g.? Is it the dryness inside the (often too strongly) heated train? Can it happen in a few seconds/minutes having laid the instrument next to a hidden heating? What are you doing to avoid those miseries? Is it better to loosen the strings? How much water and in which way do you put it into the case? Many thanks for helpful hints! Susanne To get on or off this list see list information at [12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:arc...@verizon.net 11. mailto:mandolinens...@web.de 12. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: 16th century tuning and stringing
Even when Segovia DID have a pulse, he had this really annoying habit of just pausing on random notes just because the guitar sounded pretty good on that note. I called it the "Segovia fermata". It did not cause me to move to the lute directly-I moved to the Bream guitar first. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: 480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: 480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: 480-727-5653 2010F Lab: 480-727-5654 Office: 480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Dan Winheld Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:53 PM To: Ron Andrico Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: 16th century tuning and stringing On 1/20/2015 10:22 AM, Ron Andrico wrote: > Sorry if this seems like a plug. I'm just trying to demonstrate that > pulse is very important - a fact that seems to have escaped those who > came to the lute via Segovia. Segovia continued to perform for years after he had no pulse. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: band-aid texture question
I would recommend seeing a competent dermatologist who could possibly prescribe a medical product to eliminate the problem. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: 480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: 480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: 480-727-5653 2010F Lab: 480-727-5654 Office: 480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of wayne cripps Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:52 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] band-aid texture question Hi folks - I am having serious issues with cracked skin on my thumb. about where it contacts the string, because of the dry winter weather here in the north. I am using band-aids to keep the crack closed, but the ones that I have tried all are too slippery to get a good sound on the lute strings. Has anyone found a good answer to this problem - either some bandage that works well for plucking, or some other way to keep the skin from cracking? Wayne To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Lute in the Future-Another Kick in the #%^*+¥
I learned just Friday night that Arizona State University has recently banned the selling of CD's at concerts. I wonder what overpaid pinhead administrator thought up that idea to put on his performance review. Our wonderful Frank Koonce has brought a wonderful array of incredibly talented struggling young performers to ASU, and now they will be struggling even more. For those that lament that financing is difficult for struggling young musicians, I should add that it is difficult for struggling young anybody in an academic field. My brilliant young nephew with a Harvard Ph.D. in neurobiology is working full time for an annual salary of $35,000. Remember Jon Nakamatsu, who eventually won first prize in the Van Cliburn competition, worked as a high school teacher to support himself. The schools in the Phoenix, Arizona area are full of teachers with a Ph.D. in some instrument, teaching band or chorus, because that is the only music related employment they could find to support their families. My own brother, with a degree in composition, worked construction, building log homes for 20 years. My theory is that it all points to the "sex, drugs and rock and roll" culture (or lack thereof) that has permeated American life for decades. My own beloved home town Philadelphia Orchestra went bankrupt last year, and many others are on the verge. How many classical music stations are left? Very few, and now they are publicly supported! Americans on the whole just have little interest in supporting the arts. Unfortunately, that includes too many of our elected officials who year after year cut support for education, so that the schools continue to crank out graduates who can barely read or write. Don't be surprised that they value beer and pizza over Morley or Dowland. So, Chris, you are spot on in that the present system of support for arts and academia is badly broken. I don't believe that either Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush will ever give fixing it a high priority. It is up to us to fix it, and if crowd sourcing finds some success, then let's have more of it. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Feb 25, 2015, at 6:16 AM, "Ron Andrico" <[10]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: Thanks for your thoughtful post, Chris. Your project is worthy of support and you did an excellent job of describing the current dilemma for recording artists in accurate and diplomatic terms. Most people involved in the lute world, whether they are first-class players like you, or whether they simply enjoy the aesthetic of the instrument, simply don't even think about what it takes to produce a recording today. It's a different world than the "fan club" approach of the past, where top players were easily able to obtain academic appointments, research grants, artist representation, and recording contracts that actually paid for the session work, production, distribution and even royalties. Today, even the top players (with a few rare exceptions) are struggling with the cost of making recordings - which are almost always self-financed - and even musicians who record for reputable labels are "paid" in rather skimpy piles of their own CDs which must be sold at concerts if they want to make anything at all for their effort. Talented amateurs who have piles of "the ready" can make nice recordings without the worry of whether they should reproduce several cartons of their CD, or whether they should buy a sack of groceries this week and perhaps even pay the heat bill. Again, there is no reason why someone who simply appreciates lute music should have to think about the nuts and bolts of how their favorite recordings are made, but we can all be assured that it has nothing to do with the fairytale myth of merit. There are many deserving artists out there who should be heard and supported, but there is no longer a viable market model for financing and remuneration - especially with the unsustainable model of streaming services. We have written about this in the past [1][11]https://mignarda.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/should-listeners-fee l-guil ty-about-using-spotify/ and others have done so more eloquently [2][12]http://thetrichordi
[LUTE] Re: Written by Mrs. Bach
I thought she had 13 sons... Sent from my iPhone. John Mardinly 408 921 3253 > On Mar 1, 2015, at 12:09 PM, "howard posner" wrote: > >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Rainer wrote: >> >> Has any lute-netter in Germany or Switzerland seen "Written by Mrs. Bach" on >> 3SAT yesterday evening? >> >> A certain Martins Jarvis claims that Anna Magdalena composed some of Bach's >> finest works. Very funny… > > That would be Martin Jarvis, not the British actor, but a professor at > Charles Darwin University (or Chuck D U, as the rappers call it) in > Australia. > > This has come up before on this list. Anna Magdalena, Bach’s second wife, > was his copyist. Don’t ask me where she found the time, but I suppose when > you’re constantly dealing with a house full of children and you’re pregnant > 12 times in 25 years (that’s nine years of pregnancy), you need a hobby you > can do sitting down. > > The Jarvis theory is that her copy of the cello suites shows the sort of > errors and whatnot that are made when composing rather than copying. I’m not > kidding. (It's rather like my own theory that Beethoven was a talentless > hack, and the greatest composer in history was the typesetter who had to > decipher his illegible manuscripts; the difference is that I’ve never gone > pubic with it. Oops…) Cellist Steven Isserlis discusses (well, disses) the > “theory” (Jarvis’s, not mine) here: > > http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/oct/29/why-bach-wife-cannot-take-credit-for-his-cello-masterwork > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: green lute like instrument
Fan bracing as well! A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: 480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: 480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: 480-727-5653 2010F Lab: 480-727-5654 Office: 480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Dan Winheld Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 10:09 AM To: Ed Durbrow; lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: green lute like instrument Green thumb out! On 3/3/2015 12:52 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > http://www.boredpanda.com/dragon-lizard-playing-leaf-guitar-aditya-per > mana-indonesia/ > > Ed Durbrow > Saitama, Japan > http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch > https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow > http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ > > > > > > -- > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >
[LUTE] Re: green lute like instrument
And nails, not fleshOK, claws? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: 480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: 480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: 480-727-5653 2010F Lab: 480-727-5654 Office: 480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of John Mardinly Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 12:14 PM To: Dan Winheld; Ed Durbrow; lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: green lute like instrument Fan bracing as well! A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: 480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: 480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: 480-727-5653 2010F Lab: 480-727-5654 Office: 480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Dan Winheld Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 10:09 AM To: Ed Durbrow; lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: green lute like instrument Green thumb out! On 3/3/2015 12:52 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > http://www.boredpanda.com/dragon-lizard-playing-leaf-guitar-aditya-per > mana-indonesia/ > > Ed Durbrow > Saitama, Japan > http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch > https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow > http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ > > > > > > -- > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >
[LUTE] Re: green lute like instrument
Don't gut strings and hide glue come from.dead animals? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Mar 5, 2015, at 11:33 AM, "[10]howardpos...@ca.rr.com" <[11]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote: How flattering that my name has been invoked as highly unofficial fact-finder. Obviously, the only "evidence" is the photographer's statement that he did exactly what wildlife photographers typically do: find a subject and wait for it to do something interesting. You can disbelieve it if you like, but unless you know far more about the habits of dragon lizards than I do, you have no basis for your opinion, other than an assumption that the photographer killed two lizards and posed them, which seems like a lot of trouble, requiring considerable taxidermical skill; the posture in the second picture seems like it would be really hard to achieve with a dead lizard. But what do I know? The leaf-lute shot looks like a curious basking behavior. Maybe the lizard likes to warm its leaves. Martyn Hodgson <[12]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Well, the presumption or, as you prefer, conjecture (that it may be a posed dead animal) might be not to your liking and be unacceptable to you. But without evidence so is a contrary view that a live animal was suddenly discovered adopting this pose We're surely all not unaware of set-ups these days - often for the 'entertainment' industry. Personally I think the my presumption is by far the most likely. MH __ From: "[13]r.turov...@gmail.com" <[14]r.turov...@gmail.com> To: Martyn Hodgson <[15]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>; "[16]erne...@aquila.mus.br" <[17]erne...@aquila.mus.br>; John Mardinly <[18]john.mardi...@asu.edu> Cc: Dan Winheld <[19]dwinh...@lmi.net>; Ed Durbrow <[20]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp>; lute list <[21]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2015, 14:03 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: green lute like instrument That is unacceptable conjecture, in absence of any evidence, as will surely be demonstrated by our own Howard Posner. RT On 3/5/2015 8:46 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Well, I presume the photographer posed an animal which was already found dead so I suppose it might appeal to some - but if he/she killed it for the sake of a pic then perhaps it's no so funny MH __ From: [1]"[22]r.turov...@gmail.com" [2]<[23]r.turov...@gmail.com> To: [3]"[24]erne...@aquila.mus.br" [4]<[25]erne...@aquila.mus.br>; John Mardinly [5]<[26]john.mardi...@asu.edu> Cc: Dan Winheld [6]<[27]dwinh...@lmi.net>; Ed Durbrow [7]<[28]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp>; lute list [8]<[29]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2015, 13:09 Subject: [LUTE] Re: green lute like instrument Well, the overwhelming majority on this list has a sense of humor! As Brazilians say: Kk!!! RT On 3/5/2015 7:14 AM, [9][30]erne...@aquila.mus.br wrote: Horrible photo, what a shame, poor animal, why post something like this? Where is there any fun? How is it related to the LUTE? Think about it and refrain in the future. Ernesto Ett 11-99 242120 4 11-28376692 Em 04.03.2015, A (s) 16:32, John Mardinly <[10][31]john.mardi...@asu.edu> escreveu: And nails, not fleshOK, claws? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [11][32]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: 480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: 480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: 480-727-5653 2010F Lab: 480-727-5654 Office: 480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 -Original Message- From: [12][33]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [ma
[LUTE] Paul O'Dette Concert
Just got home from the Paul O'Dette concert at ASU. All Dowland, all great music, all fine performances. Thanks to Frank Koonce in the music department for making arrangements to such bring fine performers to ASU. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu";>john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: 480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: 480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: 480-727-5653 2010F Lab: 480-727-5654 Office: 480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Paul O'Dette Concert
Just got home from the Paul O'Dette concert at ASU. All Dowland, all great music, all fine performances. Thanks to Frank Koonce in the music department for making arrangements to such bring fine performers to ASU. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Initials "PS" inside the belly of a Rubio Lute
Mel Wong has successfully removed (quite intact!) the top of my 1970 Rubio lute to re-attach the bracing. Next to the signed Rubio label is another label with the initials "PS". Rubio was known to have numerous apprentices, the best known being Paul Fisher, I believe, but we do not know who was "PS". Are there any suggestions out in the Lute Universe? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: Pegheads on new lute
Good grief: Peg Heads have a 4/1 ratio and guitar gears have a 16/1 ratio. Changing strings is less complicated than going to the bathroom. What is the fuss? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On May 27, 2015, at 10:32 AM, "Dan Winheld" <[10]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote: "...if you put as little of the string as possible on the roller, and don't bother with a knot..." That is EXACTLY the way I do it on conventional pegs. And if I am using a nylon chantarelle, I even manually pull some tension on it before I tuck/wrap the tag end under the string going into the hole, and then pull the somewhat tightened string up onto the nut & into its groove. (Outside peghole, of course). The only time I allow more wraps is when the peghole is centered, to get the tension closer (but not too close-binding!) to the inside cheek of the pegbox, where there will be less direct pulling force where the peg is most flexible. I can't understand why some people knot the strings at/in the pegbox- nothing but trouble. Dan On 5/27/2015 10:12 AM, Charles Mokotoff wrote: I am hardly the voice of experience here, having changed a grand total of about 7 strings now on this PegHed fitted lute. But I noticed if you put as little of the string as possible on the roller, and don't bother with a knot, it seems to be a lot easier to take off when the time comes. I have noticed no negative issues with doing it this way, its counter to how I used to do it with traditional pegs. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Dan Winheld <[1][11]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote: Part of being a lute teacher is showing my students how to do this stuff properly- it is not all either obvious or intuitional. Some lessons (in my case) are learned only by repeated experience. And gut winds around the peg differently than nylon; etc. Years ago I broke a "stuck" peg, forcing it when the string had wedged up against the inside cheek of the pegbox. My worst gripes about the PegHedz (even the ones that work well) are in fact about string changes. I do a fair amount of experimentation, changing out strings for different performance/pitch/tuning situations, and to try every damned new thing that Peruffo cooks up in his lab. Those things are worse than guitar machine heads for slow, awkward string changes- and lute pegboxes are not guitar heads. It is especially bad for the chantarelle- the one string for which anyone needs "instant access". On my 8 course there is no-outside-the box option, and so I have to run that string to the last 4th course peg for proper angle & accessability. Chuck Herin was no help at all on this; even though Dan Larson has some outside-the-box string hole pegheads I could not get Chuck to even understand what I wanted, it's not rocket science. A simple treble rider- just for a single 1st course- would be a good compromise. Dan On 5/27/2015 9:27 AM, Gary Boye wrote: I know there are some bad pegs and peg makers out there, but in my experience the majority of "peg" problems can be traced to improper installation of the strings to the pegs. Players wind too much string on the peg, it bumps up against the inside of the pegbox--this becomes a "stuck peg." They wind the string on the peg towards the thicker end, forcing the string to pop out when tightened--this is a "loose peg." Learn to string your instrument properly and alot of these "peg problems" disappear . . . just my 2 cents. Gary Dr. Gary R. Boye Professor and Music Librarian Appalachian State University On 5/27/2015 11:24 AM, Mayes, Joseph wrote: Early - 19th C. - guitars were made with machines or friction pegs. Those made with machines were more expensive. If you use pegheads on one of these instruments, you have an expensive guitar masquerading as a cheap one. I'll join Sterling at the vomitorium. Joseph Mayes From: [2][12]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[3][13]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of St
[LUTE] Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: Pegheads on new lute
45 years ago my brand new lute had pages that tuned easily, but the wound strings would hang up on the nut. To cure that, I built a roller nut. After a few years in Michigan with humidity varying huge amounts between winter and summer, the holes got out of round, and tuning went back to being a real pain. I am looking forward to my Pegheads. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On May 27, 2015, at 9:52 AM, "Miles Dempster" <[10]miles.demps...@gmail.com> wrote: Though not strictly speaking a 'peg' issue, strings binding at the nut can cause tuning problems (even when using Pegheads I suppose). Miles On May 27, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Gary Boye <[11]boy...@appstate.edu> wrote: I know there are some bad pegs and peg makers out there, but in my experience the majority of "peg" problems can be traced to improper installation of the strings to the pegs. Players wind too much string on the peg, it bumps up against the inside of the pegbox--this becomes a "stuck peg." They wind the string on the peg towards the thicker end, forcing the string to pop out when tightened--this is a "loose peg." Learn to string your instrument properly and alot of these "peg problems" disappear . . . just my 2 cents. Gary Dr. Gary R. Boye Professor and Music Librarian Appalachian State University On 5/27/2015 11:24 AM, Mayes, Joseph wrote: Early - 19th C. - guitars were made with machines or friction pegs. Those made with machines were more expensive. If you use pegheads on one of these instruments, you have an expensive guitar masquerading as a cheap one. I'll join Sterling at the vomitorium. Joseph Mayes From: [12]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[13]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of Sterling Price <[14]spiffys84...@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:02 AM To: Michael Grant Cc: LuteNet list Subject: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [LUTE] Re: Pegheads on new lute If your lute has shitty, ill fitting pegs then PegHeads might be fine, but it seems that most lute builders know how to make pegs that work just great. When I see PegHeads on early guitars with six strings I seriously feel the need to throw up. Sterling Sent from my iPad On May 26, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Michael Grant <[15]mmgrant0...@gmail.com> wrote: --001a11c35b4c9e155e0516fefe80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I had PegHeds (that is how the inventor and manufacturer spells his product) installed on a 10 c Ren lute. 19 PegHeds to replace tired, worn, crappy wooden friction pegs that had broken off, actually started shearing off under load. The lute was used and I had just gotten it. Chuck Herin, the PegHed guy is, by pure luck, only about 2 hours from me here in South Carolina. I drove the instrument to him, he made very small bore changes in the pegbox and installed them. Here are before and after pics of the lute's pegbox. The PegHeds cost $30 a piece. That adds up but what was it costing me to have a lute with 1/2 of the broken pegs missing and so unplayable, what would it have cost me to take it to a lute luthier and have new friction pegs turned and installed and how long would that have taken. Then I would have been back to friction pegs. Add both costs up and the PegHeds were a no brainer! I recommend them highly. Michael On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Dan Winheld <[16]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote: I am neither conventional nor wise, so I can only offer my own personal experience & opinions: Most people love them, I wouldn't pay $20 for a barrelful of them. But they are life saver on Orpharions; or any multi-string, double-course low tension wire strung instrument. For those instruments, and those instruments alone, I would consider them almost a necessity. They are nice on my Baroque lute student's 13 course instrument - but string changing is his problem! Hate them on my own 8 course, but I have adapted & gotten used to them- and that lute is so good I put up with them. The co
[LUTE] Authenticity
Just finished a day in the Louvre with my family and I am still chuckling over the Matteo Rosselli painting (1630) depicting the celebration that followed David's defeat of Goliath. The actual event took place 500 BC, but the painting conspicuously shows a lute as part of the celebration. Sent from my iPhone. John Mardinly 408 921 3253 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Westminster Abbey
Another interesting moment from my recent vacation was seeing the monument to Lord Hunsdon in Westminster Abbey in London. He does not have his own chapel room like Queen Elizabeth, but his monument in one of the side chapels is actually the tallest monument in the Abbey. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Questions for Monica
I just got the Jane Pickering lute book out of the Arizona State University music library (Boethius Press, Robert Spencer ed., 1985), and there are 12 pages bound upside down, although there are page numbers that are not upside down and would be if the tablature was not upside down. Has anybody else noticed/experienced this? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Jul 5, 2015, at 1:32 AM, Monica Hall <[10]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: Yes - you should demand a replacement or refund. I have actually got one spare copy left which I might let you have - depending on where I have to post it to. Regards Monica - Original Message - From: "David Smith" <[11]d...@dolcesfogato.com> To: "'Monica Hall'" <[12]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Cc: "'Lutelist'" <[13]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 10:56 PM Subject: RE: [LUTE] Questions for Monica Wow. It is missing a whole section. I guess they are selling rejects. I bought it through Amazon and supplied by Imagine-this. I guess I go back to them and ask for a complete copy. It does have an historical notes section at the end which is 18 pages long. Thanks for the confirmation and information. Regards David -Original Message- From: Monica Hall [[14]mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 11:46 AM To: David Smith Cc: Lutelist Subject: Re: [LUTE] Questions for Monica Hi David Re: Amat It sounds as if a whole section of the book is missing. It should have ... A short title page for the facsimile An Introduction by me running to 12 pages unnumbered - in English. The facsimile then starts with the title page followed by Carta del Padre Meastro Fray Leonardo which = 2 pages Al lector - Amat's letter to the reader = 2 pages This is followed by 3 sonetos - one page for each. Then chapter 1 of the actual book starts on p.1. I wonder where you got it from. I thought the book was now out of print. The programme which I use for Italian tablature with alfabeto is Django. It worked reasonably well but was limited. I haven't used it for some time now and I haven't downloaded any of the updates for several years. Alain Veylit was a one point interested in developing this aspect but I don't where he is at with it now. Best wishes Monica - Original Message - From: "David Smith" <[15]d...@dolcesfogato.com> To: "Lute List" <[16]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 6:08 PM Subject: [LUTE] Questions for Monica Thank you so much for the Corbetta work. I am looking forward to reading it. I have a couple of unrelated questions. I purchased a copy of Amat: Guitarra Espanola published by Chanterelle editions. I find that title page, the dedications and most of section 1 are missing. I see that you were involved with this. Was this intentional or did I just get a bad print? Also, what do you use for creating mixed alfabetto and punteado tablature? I have seens some discussion on this in the past but it seemed like there were no good solutions. Best Regards David -- To get on or off this list see list information at [17]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 11. mailto:d...@dolcesfogato.com 12. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 13. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 14. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 15. mailto:d...@dolcesfogato.com 16. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 17. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Questions for Monica
That thought occurred to me, but you would have to rip the pages out of the book. There are 12 consecutive pages upside down with respect to the rest of the book. I have lots of "table music" scores, and they have the two parts on the same page with just one part upside down; trios have one part sideways, etc. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Jul 5, 2015, at 5:23 PM, howard posner <[10]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote: On Jul 5, 2015, at 5:08 PM, John Mardinly <[11]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote: I just got the Jane Pickering lute book out of the Arizona State University music library (Boethius Press, Robert Spencer ed., 1985), and there are 12 pages bound upside down, although there are page numbers that are not upside down and would be if the tablature was not upside down. Has anybody else noticed/experienced this? I think you're looking at the pages that have the second part of a duet. They're printed "upside down" to allow the duet to be read by players sitting across a table from each other. To get on or off this list see list information at [12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 11. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 12. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Questions for Monica
My suspicion was that bookbinders are human and just goof occasionally. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Jul 5, 2015, at 8:16 PM, Ron Andrico <[10]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: Well, given the subject heading of your message, I say let's send a deputation to Monica and ask for guidance. RA > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 02:53:47 + > To: [11]howardpos...@ca.rr.com > CC: [12]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > From: [13]john.mardi...@asu.edu > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Questions for Monica > > That thought occurred to me, but you would have to rip the pages out of > the book. There are 12 consecutive pages upside down with respect to > the rest of the book. I have lots of "table music" scores, and they > have the two parts on the same page with just one part upside down; > trios have one part sideways, etc. > > A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. > Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer > EMail: [1][14]john.mardi...@asu.edu > Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) > Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 > NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 > JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 > 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 > Office: [7]480-965-7946 > John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS > B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building > Arizona State University > [8]PO Box 871704 > [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 > > On Jul 5, 2015, at 5:23 PM, howard posner <[10][15]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> > wrote: > > On Jul 5, 2015, at 5:08 PM, John Mardinly > <[11][16]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote: > I just got the Jane Pickering lute book out of the Arizona State > University music library (Boethius Press, Robert Spencer ed., > 1985), > and there are 12 pages bound upside down, although there are page > numbers that are not upside down and would be if the tablature was > not > upside down. Has anybody else noticed/experienced this? > > I think you're looking at the pages that have the second part of a > duet. They're printed "upside down" to allow the duet to be read by > players sitting across a table from each other. > To get on or off this list see list information at > [12][17]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > References > > 1. [18]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu > 2. tel:408-921-3253 > 3. tel:480-727-5651 > 4. tel:480-727-5652 > 5. tel:480-727-5653 > 6. tel:480-727-5654 > 7. tel:480-965-7946 > 8. [19]x-apple-data-detectors://6/ > 9. [20]x-apple-data-detectors://6/ > 10. [21]mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com > 11. [22]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu > 12. [23]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com 11. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 12. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 13. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 14. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 15. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 16. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 17. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 18. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 19. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 20. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 21. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 22. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 23. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Questions for Monica
Thank you Monica! A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Jul 6, 2015, at 5:43 AM, Monica Hall <[10]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: Unfortunately I can help in this instance but from my experience as a librarian and a consummer it is not uncommon for books to be misprinted or misbound either today or in the past! Best wishes to all. Monica - Original Message - From: "Ron Andrico" <[11]praelu...@hotmail.com> To: "John Mardinly" <[12]john.mardi...@asu.edu>; "howard posner" <[13]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> Cc: <[14]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 4:16 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Questions for Monica Well, given the subject heading of your message, I say let's send a deputation to Monica and ask for guidance. RA > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 02:53:47 + > To: [15]howardpos...@ca.rr.com > CC: [16]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > From: [17]john.mardi...@asu.edu > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Questions for Monica > > That thought occurred to me, but you would have to rip the pages out of > the book. There are 12 consecutive pages upside down with respect to > the rest of the book. I have lots of "table music" scores, and they > have the two parts on the same page with just one part upside down; > trios have one part sideways, etc. > > A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. > Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer > EMail: [1][18]john.mardi...@asu.edu > Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) > Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 > NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 > JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 > 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 > Office: [7]480-965-7946 > John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS > B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building > Arizona State University > [8]PO Box 871704 > [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 > > On Jul 5, 2015, at 5:23 PM, howard posner <[10][19]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> > wrote: > > On Jul 5, 2015, at 5:08 PM, John Mardinly > <[11][20]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote: > I just got the Jane Pickering lute book out of the Arizona State > University music library (Boethius Press, Robert Spencer ed., > 1985), > and there are 12 pages bound upside down, although there are page > numbers that are not upside down and would be if the tablature was > not > upside down. Has anybody else noticed/experienced this? > > I think you're looking at the pages that have the second part of a > duet. They're printed "upside down" to allow the duet to be read by > players sitting across a table from each other. > To get on or off this list see list information at > [12][21]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > References > > 1. [22]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu > 2. tel:408-921-3253 > 3. tel:480-727-5651 > 4. tel:480-727-5652 > 5. tel:480-727-5653 > 6. tel:480-727-5654 > 7. tel:480-965-7946 > 8. [23]x-apple-data-detectors://6/ > 9. [24]x-apple-data-detectors://6/ > 10. [25]mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com > 11. [26]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu > 12. [27]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 11. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com 12. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 13. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 14. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 15. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 16. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 17. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 18. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 19. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 20. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 21. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 22. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 23. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 24. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 25. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 26. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 27. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Questions for MonicaByrd Galliard
Does anybody have any idea what the source of the tablature is for this William Byrd Galliard? [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buUQyO03Bgo A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [4]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [5]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [6]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [7]480-727-5654 Office: [8]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [9]PO Box 871704 [10]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 -- References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buUQyO03Bgo 2. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. tel:408-921-3253 4. tel:480-727-5651 5. tel:480-727-5652 6. tel:480-727-5653 7. tel:480-727-5654 8. tel:480-965-7946 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Addendum
What a waste of my life! I have been playing the lute since 1970, but just joined this list last year, because I did not know about it. I have missed so much! A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Jul 21, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Mathias Roesel <[10]mathias.roe...@t-online.de> wrote: I've been lurking here since well before 2000. This list has ever since been a treasure trove to me as well as many others. Thank you, Wayne, for offering this great service to us. Mathias -Urspruengliche Nachricht- Von: [11]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [[12]mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Rob MacKillop Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Juli 2015 18:54 An: Ron Andrico Cc: [13]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Addendum Well said, young man! Rob [14]www.robmackillop.net On 21 Jul 2015, at 17:39, Ron Andrico <[15]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that "when a service is free then YOU are the product." This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his servers, is in fact a freely available service that does not, to my knowledge, mine personal information from its users. It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for providing this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users. The lute-list is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism. Thanks, Wayne. RA Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:03 + To: [16]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; [17]dwinh...@lmi.net CC: [18]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: [19]praelu...@hotmail.com Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and that I qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT use the data-mining service. As far as I can tell, any positive uses the service may have had are negated by the nature and quantity of personal information it robs from public interactions and private mail accounts. As usual, when a service is free then YOU are the product. RA Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900 To: [20]dwinh...@lmi.net CC: [21]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: [22]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem x seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The main use Ive made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my address book. I never endorse people anymore because then I just get bothered by more and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through x sparked by Rons suggestion. On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld <[23]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote: To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on xx- I no longer have an account on x. Please stop x (if possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement & other requests. Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just no longer have an account with x- it provides nothing of any personal or professional use to me. I can always be contacted through this elist if you do not have my personal email address. Thanks, Dan x -- To get on or off this list see list information at [24]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de 11. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 12. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 13. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 14. http://www.robmackillop.net/ 15. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com 16. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 17. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net 18. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 19. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com 20. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net 21. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 22. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 23. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net 24. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: national lute day?
When I was searching the ASU library for the "Welde" lute book, I got a full page of references for welding. Even though my Ph.D. is in metallurgy, that really wasn't what I wanted. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Jul 27, 2015, at 11:14 AM, wayne cripps <[10]wst...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Hi lute world - I was hearing a lot of lutes on the radio Sunday morning, so I thought I would see if there was a "National Lute Day". When I googled it I got a lot of hits for NATIONAL BE LATE FOR SOMETHING DAY - September 5. I think there is a PHD in analyzing this. Wayne To get on or off this list see list information at [11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:wst...@cs.dartmouth.edu 11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Soap & Talc, quick question
Always be careful with talc. It frequently contains chrysotile asbestos (talc and chrysotile asbestos have the same composition) which is a potent carcinogen, so be sure you never breath the dust. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:52 AM, andy butler <[10]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: Many thanks for all responses. Baby powder with a bit of soap seems to be doing the trick, will vary the proportions as needed. kind regards andy To get on or off this list see list information at [11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:akbut...@tiscali.co.uk 11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Soap & Talc, quick question
60,000 turns in 5 years? How often do you change your strings? That is 32.8 turns per day, 365 days a year. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Aug 13, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Dan Winheld <[10]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote: Laugh now; in 5 years you will need to hire a professional mechanic to inject a mixture of high-temp. Macadamia Nut Oil and ambergris to prevent micro-clutch seizure. Also a mandatory timing belt change for EACH PegHed after 60,000 turns- ain't cheap! On 8/13/2015 9:19 AM, Charles Mokotoff wrote: I am so enjoying ignoring this thread...says the lutenist with PegHeds ;) On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Martin Shepherd <[1][11]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> wrote: Hill's is good, but it's dark brown, so for light-coloured pegs (e.g. lemonwood) I find I want to use something else. Dry soap and talc seems OK. Chalk can be gritty and may wear out your pegs and/or peg holes. I actually put quite a lot of peg paste on my pegs in the process of fitting them - it gets compacted into the pegbox and provides a really good basis for a smooth action. Wood-against-wood is not good. If anyone knows of a good recipe for a pale/transparent version of Hill's, please let us know. Martin To get on or off this list see list information at [12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net 11. mailto:mar...@luteshop.co.uk 12. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Taylor Swift
OK, now for something completely different: I have a 13 year old daughter who is into Taylor Swift. Big time. I told her I would play some Taylor Swift songs on the lute. Do any arrangements exist, or is this something I am going to have to do myself? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: 480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: 480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: 480-727-5653 2010F Lab: 480-727-5654 Office: 480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Taylor Swift
With only a single bass string, would it be more correct to call it a Theorbo-Kulele? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Sep 2, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Geoff Gaherty <[10]ge...@gaherty.ca> wrote: On 2015-09-02 7:03 PM, Sean Smith wrote: Now if you lute players would just tune your lutes like ukes you'd have all the modern music you need and then some. Or buy a lute-kulele: [11]http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Roosebeck-Ukulele/Roosebeck-Tenor-L ute-kulele-Variegated Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:ge...@gaherty.ca 11. http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Roosebeck-Ukulele/Roosebeck-Tenor-Lute-kulele-Variegated
[LUTE] Re: Taylor Swift
Well, if I search "Taylor Swift Lute", I get "Shake it Off" on Flute. On Sep 2, 2015, at 12:25 PM, David van Ooijen <[1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote: Haha! Look for MeesterDavidGitaar on YouTube ( that's me in my other life, one of my other lives). I did several Taylor Swift covers/arrangements. I think Never Grow Up would lend itself well to lute. Safe and Sound too. Ask your daughter which one she likes best and I'll see what I can do. David On Wednesday, September 2, 2015, John Mardinly <[1][2]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote: OK, now for something completely different: I have a 13 year old daughter who is into Taylor Swift. Big time. I told her I would play some Taylor Swift songs on the lute. Do any arrangements exist, or is this something I am going to have to do myself? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1][3]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: 480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: 480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: 480-727-5653 2010F Lab: 480-727-5654 Office: 480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 -- References 1. mailto:[2][4]john.mardi...@asu.edu To get on or off this list see list information at [3][5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [4][6]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [5][7]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. [8]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. javascript:; 3. [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. [10]mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 5. [11]http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [12]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [13]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [14]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [15]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [16]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [17]480-727-5654 Office: [18]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 4. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 7. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 8. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 10. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 11. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 12. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 13. tel:408-921-3253 14. tel:480-727-5651 15. tel:480-727-5652 16. tel:480-727-5653 17. tel:480-727-5654 18. tel:480-965-7946
[LUTE] Re: Soap & Talc, quick question
Smart. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:19 AM, David Tayler <[10]vidan...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: I don't use talc or related products because of the asbestos. Isn't that a cheery thought? d __ From: andy butler <[11]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk> To: [12]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:11 AM Subject: [LUTE] Soap & Talc, quick question I'm about to change strings on my lute, and I understand that applying a soap/talc mix to the pegs will help with tuning. So, is that a 50/50 mix? Should I add any water? any tips gratefully received kind regards andy To get on or off this list see list information at [1][13]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:vidan...@sbcglobal.net 11. mailto:akbut...@tiscali.co.uk 12. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 13. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 14. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Soap & Talc, quick question
There is this stuff called "Peg Drops Liquid Peg Compound at: [1]http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Lute-Accessories/Peg-Drops-Liquid-Pe g-Compound although they do say they are out of stock at the moment. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [4]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [5]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [6]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [7]480-727-5654 Office: [8]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [9]PO Box 871704 [10]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:52 AM, andy butler <[11]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: Many thanks for all responses. Baby powder with a bit of soap seems to be doing the trick, will vary the proportions as needed. kind regards andy To get on or off this list see list information at [12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Lute-Accessories/Peg-Drops-Liquid-Peg-Compound 2. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. tel:408-921-3253 4. tel:480-727-5651 5. tel:480-727-5652 6. tel:480-727-5653 7. tel:480-727-5654 8. tel:480-965-7946 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 11. mailto:akbut...@tiscali.co.uk 12. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Taylor Swift
Awesome David. Thanks so much. I am amazed at the number of Lute Listers that have teenagers who have gone to the "Dark Side" so to speak, but still relate to that side. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Sep 3, 2015, at 12:42 AM, David van Ooijen <[10]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote: While we're in the mood, here's the Twin Peaks Theme on b-lute: [1][11]https://youtu.be/xTiOSQmZGkA And here's a bit of archlute in a Lady Gaga song: [2][12]https://youtu.be/J8CrDkOlhEI Back to Dowland, I have a serieus rehearsal today. David *** David van Ooijen [3][13]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [4][14]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** On 3 September 2015 at 06:05, John Mardinly <[5][15]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote: Well, if I search "Taylor Swift Lute", I get "Shake it Off" on Flute. On Sep 2, 2015, at 12:25 PM, David van Ooijen <[1][6][16]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote: Haha! Look for MeesterDavidGitaar on YouTube ( that's me in my other life, one of my other lives). I did several Taylor Swift covers/arrangements. I think Never Grow Up would lend itself well to lute. Safe and Sound too. Ask your daughter which one she likes best and I'll see what I can do. David On Wednesday, September 2, 2015, John Mardinly <[1][2][7][17]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote: OK, now for something completely different: I have a 13 year old daughter who is into Taylor Swift. Big time.I told her I would play some Taylor Swift songs on the lute. Do any arrangements exist, or is this something I am going to have to do myself? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1][3][18]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [8]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [9]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [10]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [11]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [12]480-727-5654 Office: [13]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 -- References 1. mailto:[2][4][19]john.mardi...@asu.edu To get on or off this list see list information at [3][5][14][20]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.htm l -- *** David van Ooijen [4][6][15][21]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [5][7][16][22]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. [8]mailto:[17][23]john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. javascript:; 3. [9][18][24]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. [10]mailto:[19][25]davidvanooi...@gmail.com 5. [11][20][26]http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [12][27]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [13]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [14]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [15]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [16]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [17]480-727-5654 Office: [18]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 References 1. mailto:[21][28]davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. mailto:[22][29]john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. mailto:[23][30]john.mardi...@asu.edu 4. mailto:[24][31]john.mardi...@asu.edu 5. [25][32]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. mailto:[26][33]davidvanooi...@gmail.com 7. [27][34]http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 8. mailto:[28][35]john.mardi
[LUTE] Re: [SPAM?] Re: playing above the frets
What bothers me is the left hand of the guy on the right. Ugh! This was how many centuries before thalidomide? Oh, it is a painting, not a photograph. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Sep 14, 2015, at 9:03 AM, Dan Winheld <[10]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote: Martin- I knew you had to be familiar with that painting. I've also wondered about the frets stopping at the 11 semitone, and the weirdness of that possibly "semi-diatonic" short fret. In this on-line reproduction they sure don't look like ebony, or even black- but they still look more like real frets to me than mere position markers. So much for secondary viewing; I'd like examine the painting live & close up some day. I am very glad, though, to have provoked some educated comments about that painting from a real luthier, as it has bothered me for many years. Dan On 9/14/2015 8:33 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: Yes, Dan, I do know the painting. I don't think those are frets, as their lengths make no sense. I can only think they must be marks to show the positions of notes. M - Original Message - From: "Dan Winheld" <[11]dwinh...@lmi.net> To: "Martin Shepherd" <[12]mar...@luteshop.co.uk>; <[13]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 5:16 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: playing above the frets Really? No iconography? On 9/14/[14]https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lorenzo_Costa_-_Un_ concerto_(National_Gallery,_London).jpg Surely you've seen this painting by Lorenzo Costa; 5 course lute with three ebony frets beyond the gut frets. About 100 years before Mathia Mason. But, like 7 course lutes being mentioned in writings in the very early 16th century probably not typical or widespread. (Just popular enough for one real painter to get it on canvas, though). I believe there was a contemporary eye/ear witness who observed Francesco playing beyond the frets. Check the Francesco literature. I kept my own 6 course lute fretless beyond the last 8th gut for many years; really not hard at all to nail single notes with correct intonation if you bother to practice a little. In fact, you can get better intonation without those frets if you have to play course 3 or lower way down there. It's just another register with its own tone color. But I was too lazy to keep up, and wanted the clearer sound of fretted notes. Dan 2015 7:15 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: Dear Collective Wisdom, Can anyone help me out with the source materials on this topic? There is (as far as I know) no evidence for wooden body frets in iconography, and it seems they were not used until late in the 16th century (they are mentioned by Dowland, who says they were invented by Mathias Mason but probably didn't use them himself; and by Robinson, who probably did). I remember someone/somewhere says something about expert players playing above the frets with just as much facility as they do on the tied frets - can anyone remember who/where? Any other references I ought to know about? Merci d'avance, Martin __ [1]Avast logo This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. [2][15]www.avast.com -- References 1. [16]https://www.avast.com/antivirus 2. [17]https://www.avast.com/antivirus To get on or off this list see list information at [18]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. [19]https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net 11. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net 12. mailto:mar...@luteshop.co.uk 13. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 14. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lorenzo_Costa_-_Un_concerto_(National_Gallery,_London).jpg 15. http://www.avast.com/ 16. https://www.avast.com
[LUTE] Re: Holbein
Of course the Google image you can't download. Try this link for the Wikimedia Commons site which has scans up to 30,000 x 29,560 (yes, 226 MB) for download: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=holbein+ambassadors&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1 A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: 480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: 480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: 480-727-5653 2010F Lab: 480-727-5654 Office: 480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Wolfgang Wiehe Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 6:24 AM To: Martin Shepherd Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Holbein Hello Martin, try this one and zom in! greetings Wolfgang W. https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/the-ambassadors/b QEWbLB26MG1LA?hlTH&projectId=art-project Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. September 2015 um 11:59 Uhr Von: "Martin Shepherd" An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Holbein Hi All, Does anyone have a highish resolution JPG of the Holbein "Ambassadors" lute they'd be willing to send me? It doesn't need to be the whole painting, just the lute. I thought I had one somewhere, but it seems to have disappeared into the digital ether. Thanks, Martin __ [1]Avast logo This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. [2][1]www.avast.com -- References 1. [2]https://www.avast.com/antivirus 2. [3]https://www.avast.com/antivirus To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. http://www.avast.com/ 2. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 3. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Terrific Concert/Terrific Ensemble
Last night, Tempe, AZ people were fortunate to hear a wonderful concert by a duo called "Bedlam", consisting of Laudon Schuett on the lute (DMA student of Paul O'Dette) and Kayleen Sanchez, soprano. Both graduates of the Eastman School of music. Absolutely wonderful and charming presentations of 16th century songs for lute and voice. If you ever get a chance to hear them, do not miss it. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Fun interview with Sterling Price
Visit Arizona. Nothing sounds "muggy" here. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Oct 5, 2015, at 3:02 PM, sterling price <[10]spiffys84...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: It was a neat interview. How would others have answered the presidential candidate question? I was going to say that the lute is Bernie Sanders but I couldn't think of a pithy reason why. Sterling __ From: Chris Barker <[11]csbarker...@att.net> To: 'Charles Mokotoff' <[12]mokot...@gmail.com>; 'LuteNet list' <[13]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 2:33 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Fun interview with Sterling Price Let's see here... I have three Trumps, and one that rises above it all, but where does that leave my vihuela? -Original Message- From: [1][14]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[2][15]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mokotoff Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 2:15 PM To: LuteNet list <[3][16]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subject: [LUTE] Fun interview with Sterling Price [1][4][17]http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/sterling-prices/Content?oid0 0632 9 "The lute, of course, rises above politics." The guitar is Donald Trump though? ;) -- References 1. [5][18]http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/sterling-prices/Content?oid0063 29 To get on or off this list see list information at [6][19]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [20]mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 2. [21]mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. [22]mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. [23]http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/sterling-prices/Content?oid006329 5. [24]http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/sterling-prices/Content?oid006329 6. [25]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:spiffys84...@cs.dartmouth.edu 11. mailto:csbarker...@att.net 12. mailto:mokot...@gmail.com 13. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 14. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 15. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 16. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 17. http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/sterling-prices/Content?oid00632 18. http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/sterling-prices/Content?oid006329 19. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 20. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 21. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 22. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 23. http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/sterling-prices/Content?oid006329 24. http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/sterling-prices/Content?oid006329 25. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: advice on headphones for home recording?
I second the Etymotics! They are sensational. However, for home listening, I prefer Denon Music Maniac AH-D600. Just sensational clarity and presence for all music, and incredible craftsmanship in the construction. They list for $400 but I got them for $188 on eBay. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:38 AM, Charles Mokotoff <[10]mokot...@gmail.com> wrote: Because of my lousy hearing I've always favored in-ear monitors rather than over the ear headphones. I like Etymotic for these. If you don't mind dropping another $100 you can have custom ear tips made. Sounds wonderful and quite comfortable. On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:22 AM, andy butler <[11]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: To "get the job done". Shure make a very acceptable range of studio headphones at a reasonable price. Select model depending on budget. I think it was the SRH440 model that I experienced at a recent recording session, actually quite impressed with the sound compared to my more expensive Sennheisers. If you're not ever thinking of using the phones for mixing then these should be perfect, as they are designed for studio use. andy On 08/11/2015 21:50, WALSH STUART wrote: Researching headphones on the Internet is a bit of a nightmare! I just want some better headphones for creating duets: recording one part then playing it back and recording a second part while listening to the first part. I haven't got fancy or expensive recording equipment - just portable devices. I don't want anything too expensive! Any advice would be appreciated. Stuart --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. [12]https://www.avast.com/antivirus To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:mokot...@gmail.com 11. mailto:akbut...@tiscali.co.uk 12. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
[LUTE] Re: Air Travel with Lute?
When I try the link: I get: Are you lost? The page you tried was not found. You may have used an outdated link or may have typed the address (URL) incorrectly. You might find what you're looking for in one of these areas: Every time, on 2 different computers. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: 480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: 480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: 480-727-5653 2010F Lab: 480-727-5654 Office: 480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of AJN Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 1:56 PM To: arthurjn...@verizon.net; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Air Travel with Lute? Use the links under "References" On 11/20/15, AJN wrote: The A F of M is getting involved: [1][1]http://www.afm.org/uploads/file/Flying%20with%20Musical%20Instrum ent s%2010.29.pdf And here's Dave from Halifax who started it all: [2][2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo References 1. [3]http://www.afm.org/uploads/file/Flying%20with%20Musical%20Instrument s%2010.29.pdf 2. [4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo To get on or off this list see list information at [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. http://www.afm.org/uploads/file/Flying%20with%20Musical%20Instrument 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo 3. http://www.afm.org/uploads/file/Flying%20with%20Musical%20Instruments%2010.29.pdf 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/
[LUTE] Re: Air Travel with Lute?
Great. Thank you. That works. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: 480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: 480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: 480-727-5653 2010F Lab: 480-727-5654 Office: 480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 From: AJN [mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 4:02 PM To: John Mardinly; arthurjn...@verizon.net; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: Re: RE: [LUTE] Re: Air Travel with Lute? Dear John, On 11/20/15, John Mardinly<[2]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote: When I try the link: I get: Are you lost? The page you tried was not found. You may have used an outdated link or may have typed the address (URL) incorrectly. You might find what you're looking for in one of these areas: Every time, on 2 different computers. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [3]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) AJN: Try the end of the message, References 3 and 4. They work for me. The other links were cut short in the message. -Original Message- From: [4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [[5]mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of AJN Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 1:56 PM To: [6]arthurjn...@verizon.net; [7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Air Travel with Lute? Use the links under "References" On 11/20/15, AJN<[8]arthurjn...@verizon.net> wrote: The A F of M is getting involved: [1][1][9]http://www.afm.org/uploads/file/Flying%20with%20Musical%20Inst rum ent s%2010.29.pdf And here's Dave from Halifax who started it all: [2][2][10]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo References 1. [3][11]http://www.afm.org/uploads/file/Flying%20with%20Musical%20Instru ment s%2010.29.pdf 2. [4][12]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo To get on or off this list see list information at [5][13]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. [14]http://www.afm.org/uploads/file/Flying%20with%20Musical%20Instrumen t 2. [15]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo HERE and 3. [16]http://www.afm.org/uploads/file/Flying%20with%20Musical%20Instrumen ts%2010.29.pdf HERE 4. [17]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo 5. [18]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/ References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 4. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 5. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 6. mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net 7. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 8. mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net 9. http://www.afm.org/uploads/file/Flying%20with%20Musical%20Instrum 10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo 11. http://www.afm.org/uploads/file/Flying%20with%20Musical%20Instrument 12. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo 13. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/ 14. http://www.afm.org/uploads/file/Flying%20with%20Musical%20Instrument 15. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo 16. http://www.afm.org/uploads/file/Flying%20with%20Musical%20Instruments%2010.29.pdf 17. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo 18. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/
[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - Julian Bream
Finally read it-MOST enjoyable! Thank you. The link to Bream and Grappelli was most appreciated. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Nov 28, 2015, at 4:07 PM, Charles Mokotoff <[10]mokot...@gmail.com> wrote: Fantastic and timeless commentary. Thank you for sharing! On Nov 28, 2015, at 11:21 AM, Ron Andrico <[11]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: We have posted our Saturday morning quotes, this week from a 1960 interview with Julian Bream. [1][12]http://wp.me/p15OyV-1lq Ron & Donna -- References 1. [13]http://wp.me/p15OyV-1lq To get on or off this list see list information at [14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:mokot...@gmail.com 11. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com 12. http://wp.me/p15OyV-1lq 13. http://wp.me/p15OyV-1lq 14. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: When Daffodils Begin to Peer
Was "When Daffodils Begin to Pee" a suggestion for lyrics or a typo? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Dec 11, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Ron Andrico <[10]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: Craig and all, You understand that the settings for orphan texts in Ross Duffin's book are entirely speculative and, when an original musical setting survives, the bass and/or harmonization are not printed. This applies to "When Daffodils Begin to Pee" which has a few drippy modern settings. You are probably better off just making up your own music, which has as much authority as what you will find published. RA From: [11]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[12]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of [13]co...@medievalist.org <[14]co...@medievalist.org> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 1:16 AM To: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Re: When Daffodils Begin to Peer Thank you, and I'm sorry but I wasn't specific enough. I would like the music in tablature or standard notation. I have Dr. Duffin's book and both accompanying CDs. I just need the music notation itself. Regards, Craig To get on or off this list see list information at [15]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com 11. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 12. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 13. mailto:co...@medievalist.org 14. mailto:co...@medievalist.org 15. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - Pitch
This is hilarious! A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Dec 12, 2015, at 4:17 PM, howard posner <[10]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote: On Dec 12, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Edward Martin <[11]edvihuel...@gmail.com> wrote: I am wondering, has anybody on the list read some of the arguments about changing the modern pitch standard as a + 432? A major push for 432 came from none other than convicted mail fraud conspirator and 8-time fringe presidential candidate Lyndon Larouche, who defined "weird" in American politics until Donald Trump redefined it. Here's an excerpt from the Wikipedia page on Larouche; I can't vouch for its accuracy in all things: 1989: Musical interests and Verdi tuning initiative: LaRouche and his wife have an interest in classical music up to the period of Brahms. A motto of LaRouche's European Workers' Party, is "Think like Beethoven"; movement offices typically include a piano and posters of German composers, and members are known for their choral singing at protest events and for using satirical lyrics tailored to their targets.[152] LaRouche abhors popular music; he said in 1980, "Rock was not an accidental thing. This was done by people who set out in a deliberate way to subvert the United States. It was done by British intelligence," and wrote that the Beatles were "a product shaped according to British Psychological Warfare Division specifications."[153] LaRouche movement members have protested at performances of Richard Wagner's operas, denouncing Wagner as an anti-Semite who found favor with the Nazis, and called a conductor "satanic" because he played contemporary music.[154] In 1989 LaRouche advocated that classical orchestras should use a concert pitch based on A above middle C (A4) tuned to 432 Hz, which the Schiller Institute called the "Verdi pitch," a pitch that Verdi had suggested as optimal, though he also composed and conducted in other pitches such as the French official diapason normal of 435 Hz, including his Requiem in 1874.[155] The Schiller Institute initiative attracted support from more than 300 opera stars, including Joan Sutherland, Placido Domingo and Luciano Pavarotti, who according to Opera Fanatic may or may not have been aware of LaRouche's politics. A spokesman for Domingo said Domingo had simply signed a questionnaire, had not been aware of its origins, and would not agree with LaRouche's politics. Renata Tebaldi and Piero Cappuccilli, who were running for the European Parliament on LaRouche's "Patriots for Italy" platform, attended Schiller Institute conferences as featured speakers. The discussions led to debates in the Italian parliament about reinstating Verdi's legislation. LaRouche gave an interview to National Public Radio on the initiative from prison. The initiative was opposed by the editor of Opera Fanatic, Stefan Zucker, who objected to the establishment of a "pitch police," and argued that LaRouche was using the issue to gain credibility.[156] Here's a 1989 story about it from the Washington Post, which goes into some of the arguments: [12]https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1989/05/27/lyndon- larouches-pitch-battle/756e0713-65eb-4059-90b2-037fd2f1f6e1/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 11. mailto:edvihuel...@gmail.com 12. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1989/05/27/lyndon-larouches-pitch-battle/756e0713-65eb-4059-90b2-037fd2f1f6e1/
[LUTE] Re: Wetting Fingers
As another of those oulde guys, I remember distinctly how much my fingers perspired whenever I performed in front of an audience, and how dramatically how having cold wet fingers interfered with playing. Now that I am way over 60, my fingers don't perspire at all, and in Arizona they are not cold, and this terrible barrier to performing is completely gone. Now I just have to remember the notes.. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Dec 23, 2015, at 5:33 PM, "Dan Winheld" <[10]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote: I have played lutes of all kinds since 1966, (and guitar for 9 years prior) and I must say I have NEVER heard of such practices! The only thing remotely connected that comes to my mind is something Besard wrote (English translation in the "Varietie...") about some students "anointing their fingers with Oyle of Tartar..." but for increasing joint flexibility, nothing to do with touch. Nigel North had been in the habit of stalking his students with a fine emery board, grabbing their right hands smoothing out coarse fingertips. He jumped me in this fashion once about 15 years ago at a SFEMS or LSA seminar. 'some do nothing and play with dry fingers.'-That's my group! -Dan On 12/23/2015 6:47 PM, LSA Lute Rental Program wrote: Every month I try to send all the renters of Lute Society of America lutes a little info on some topic. The one I am doing a bit of research on now is the practice of wetting right hand thumb, index, and middle fingers before playing the lute. I am sure this has been a past topic and am sure there are lots of opinions out there about this. That is, actually, why I am asking for your thoughts. Some lutenists "fog" their fingers, some wet them, some wet them and rub their fingers against their nose to collect oil, some use lotion or mineral oil or Vaseline, some do other things, some do nothing and play with dry fingers. Can you offer me any history about any of these practices, any information, pros/cons, advantages/disadvantages, issues of string type (gut, Nylgut, nylon, etc.)? I am not taking a position on the issue...I am just gathering information and whatever you can share is appreciated. Thanks, Michael Grant -- To get on or off this list see list information at [11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net 11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Performing lute in ensemble
This technique sounds like "appoyando", or "rest stroke" used for guitar.. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Dec 27, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Christopher Wilke <[10]chriswi...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Danny, It comes down to plucking technique. Definitely do not just claw as loudly as you can! Instead, play close to the bridge with (most importantly) an arched wrist so the weight of the hand depresses and releases the strings perpendicularly to the soundboard. This achieves the perfect balance of tone; the striking position near the bridge emphasizing higher partials, thus providing projection, while the hand weight and string depression simultaneously activates a fuller range of complementary overtones. Remember that baroque sources repeatedly use words like "powerful" (kraft) and "clear" (klar) to describe the sound of the lute. This must have been the ideal, judging from the number of concerti and other ensemble works that survive from the period. There is, for example, Zoffany's painting of the Sharp family in which a lute player (with curved wrist and pinky behind the bridge) is shown among an instrumental group featuring horns, oboes, serpent, cello, keyboards, etc. Toeschi also scored for a large ensemble including winds in his lute concerto. Of course, it helps to have sensitive string players in the group, too! Chris [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, December 27, 2015, 7:46 AM, Daniel Shoskes <[11]kidneykut...@gmail.com> wrote: Dear list: I've been having fun with the Lauffensteiner g minor "concerto" (andante:[2][12]https://youtu.be/q9dV2QbcBc8 <[3][13]http://youtu.be/q9dV2QbcBc8>). In the Brussels Ms it has parts for 2 violins and 1 cello (OK, 2 treble clef instruments and a bass clef instrument with figures). In performance of pieces like this, how do people handle balance of instruments? Clearly having the other instruments in gut would help but it's still a struggle to have the lute loud enough in comparison with the strings. Mics? Mutes? Just play as loud as you can all the way through? Thanks Danny -- To get on or off this list see list information at [4][14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References Visible links 1. [15]https://yho.com/footer0 2. [16]https://youtu.be/q9dV2QbcBc8 3. [17]http://youtu.be/q9dV2QbcBc8 4. [18]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Hidden links: 6. [19]https://youtu.be/q9dV2QbcBc8 7. [20]http://youtu.be/q9dV2QbcBc8 8. [21]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:chriswi...@cs.dartmouth.edu 11. mailto:kidneykut...@gmail.com 12. https://youtu.be/q9dV2QbcBc8 13. http://youtu.be/q9dV2QbcBc8 14. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 15. https://yho.com/footer0 16. https://youtu.be/q9dV2QbcBc8 17. http://youtu.be/q9dV2QbcBc8 18. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 19. https://youtu.be/q9dV2QbcBc8 20. http://youtu.be/q9dV2QbcBc8 21. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Performing lute in ensemble
I thought this was a really nice performance also. I had to look on the web site for the lutenist, Hana Alivodic, and learned that she was a student of Hopkinson Smith, but is now studying psychology. Too bad someone that good needs another profession, presumably to help make ends meet. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: 480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: 480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: 480-727-5653 2010F Lab: 480-727-5654 Office: 480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Mathias Rösel Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 11:14 AM To: 'Lute List' Subject: [LUTE] Re: Performing lute in ensemble Thx for sharing this, Gøran! The lute is astonishingly loud! Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von G. C. Gesendet: Montag, 28. Dezember 2015 01:43 An: Lute List Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Performing lute in ensemble This little 18 min. concert puts at odds the foregoing "play at the bridge" approach as well as questions the volume problematics. But its a "small venue". And unusual playing position? Karl Ignaz von Kohaut (1726-1784) - Concerto No. 1 F-dur [1]https://youtu.be/ZhIpCdu4ctU -- References 1. https://youtu.be/ZhIpCdu4ctU To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Sylvius Leopold Weiss T-Shirt
Heard on KBAQ yesterday that it was possible to go online and buy a Sylvius Leopold Weiss T-Shirt. To my great dis-belief, it is TRUE, and they come in four colors !! http://www.zazzle.com/silvius_leopold_weiss_tees-235516827857819023 A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: 480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: 480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: 480-727-5653 2010F Lab: 480-727-5654 Office: 480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University PO Box 871704 Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: removing the body frets from a lute
Mel Wong was able to remove the entire TOP from my lute to re-glue the braces, with no damage whatsoever to the top, and he said that Rubio did not use hide glue, which made it rather difficult. So, if you need a magician, he is one. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654 Office: [7]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [8]PO Box 871704 [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Jan 21, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Kyle Patterson <[10]patterk...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Lutenet, Does anyone have any advice for removing the body frets on a lute? (The 10th-12th frets on my lute are horrendously out of tune and the builder seems to have changed his email address.) Should I just try a small knife underneath the fret? I worry about accidentally scraping wood off of the soundboard. I'd appreciate any help you could give me. Thanks, Kyle -- To get on or off this list see list information at [11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5651 4. tel:480-727-5652 5. tel:480-727-5653 6. tel:480-727-5654 7. tel:480-965-7946 8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 10. mailto:patterk...@gmail.com 11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - Dante
So, if "the study of Dante is a liberal education", is it safe to assume that Trump, Cruz and Rubio never studied Dante? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [3]480-727-5653 2010F Lab: [4]480-727-5654 Office: [5]480-965-7946 John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building Arizona State University [6]PO Box 871704 [7]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704 On Feb 20, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Ron Andrico <[8]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: We have posted our Saturday morning quotes, this week on Dante and music. [1][9]http://wp.me/p15OyV-1NB Ron & Donna -- References 1. [10]http://wp.me/p15OyV-1NB To get on or off this list see list information at [11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. tel:480-727-5653 4. tel:480-727-5654 5. tel:480-965-7946 6. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 7. x-apple-data-detectors://6/ 8. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com 9. http://wp.me/p15OyV-1NB 10. http://wp.me/p15OyV-1NB 11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Retirement
This is wonderful! Now I can do music full time! A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Kling-On Lute Stabilizer
Charles; Excessive use of anything "Klingon" in nature will cause you to develop a ridged forehead and behavior mannerisms similar to Donal Trump. Another way to hold the instrument may be the "Ergo Play", developed by Johannes Tappert. I have used one on my guitar for years, and found it to be fantastic. The suction cups stick to the guitar sufficiently well, and have not left any visible marks on my 50-year-old Velazquez guitar. Unfortunately, none of the models will stick to my Rubio lute due to the fluted belly. If your instrument is just plain round, it should work: [1]http://www.ergoplay.de/englisch/images/sliders/iosslider/slide3.jpg A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Mar 8, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Charles Mokotoff <[4]mokot...@gmail.com> wrote: Has anyone tried this method to keep the lute from slipping on your leg? I know may of you use a strap and/or the RH pinky to keep the lute in place, but I have found it absolutely necessary, when sitting guitar-style, to have something between the lute and my thigh or it will definitely slip forward. A piece of rubber or leather does the trick fine, but the stabilizer idea is interesting. I actually had one over here but it didn't stay on my lute, apparently there is a more "permanent" solution that would probably affect the finish I suspect. [1][5]http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Lute-Accessories/Kling-On-Lute- Stabi lizer-2-Piece Has anyone given it a whirl? Thanks. -- References 1. [6]http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Lute-Accessories/Kling-On-Lute-Stabi lizer-2-Piece To get on or off this list see list information at [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. http://www.ergoplay.de/englisch/images/sliders/iosslider/slide3.jpg 2. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. tel:408-921-3253 4. mailto:mokot...@gmail.com 5. http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Lute-Accessories/Kling-On-Lute-Stabi 6. http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Lute-Accessories/Kling-On-Lute-Stabilizer-2-Piece 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Kling-On Lute Stabilizer
Excellent video! She clearly has the instrument completely stable with both hands off. Thanks. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Mar 9, 2016, at 9:12 AM, Dan Winheld <[3]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote: It's finally becoming obvious that only octopi and extraterrestrials were meant to play lutes- or at least hold onto them! Or are all the lute players working in zero gravity conditions? Don't know what that makes me- never had a bit of trouble from the moment I first held one over 45 years ago, after getting scoliosis and tendonitis from Classical guitars. Only one minimal, relatively tasteful $30 guitar strap for the archlute. (Gets off-balance heavy, out there on the distant yard-arm). Meanwhile, "Luteduo" has a comprehensive video on the Lute Network site for nailing that sucker down even in a hurricane, perhaps while bull-riding. I think Roman has pics of galloping, mounted Torban players on his website- so are we all a bunch of sissies? [4]http://lutegroup.ning.com/forum/topics/tying-the-strap?xg_source=act ivity Dan On 3/9/2016 7:45 AM, John Mardinly wrote: Charles; Excessive use of anything "Klingon" in nature will cause you to develop a ridged forehead and behavior mannerisms similar to Donal Trump. Another way to hold the instrument may be the "Ergo Play", developed by Johannes Tappert. I have used one on my guitar for years, and found it to be fantastic. The suction cups stick to the guitar sufficiently well, and have not left any visible marks on my 50-year-old Velazquez guitar. Unfortunately, none of the models will stick to my Rubio lute due to the fluted belly. If your instrument is just plain round, it should work: [1]http://www.ergoplay.de/englisch/images/sliders/iosslider/slide 3.jpg A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Mar 8, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Charles Mokotoff <[4]mokot...@gmail.com> wrote: Has anyone tried this method to keep the lute from slipping on your leg? I know may of you use a strap and/or the RH pinky to keep the lute in place, but I have found it absolutely necessary, when sitting guitar-style, to have something between the lute and my thigh or it will definitely slip forward. A piece of rubber or leather does the trick fine, but the stabilizer idea is interesting. I actually had one over here but it didn't stay on my lute, apparently there is a more "permanent" solution that would probably affect the finish I suspect. [1][5]http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Lute-Accessories/Kling-On -Lute- Stabi lizer-2-Piece Has anyone given it a whirl? Thanks. -- References 1. [6]http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Lute-Accessories/Kling-On-Lute -Stabi lizer-2-Piece To get on or off this list see list information at [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. http://www.ergoplay.de/englisch/images/sliders/iosslider/slide3.jpg 2. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. tel:408-921-3253 4. mailto:mokot...@gmail.com 5. http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Lute-Accessories/Kling-On-Lute-Stabi 6. http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Lute-Accessories/Kling-On-Lute-Stabi lizer-2-Piece 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net 4. http://lutegroup.ning.com/forum/topics/tying-the-strap?xg_source=activity
[LUTE] Re: Breaking news
There is a very nice version by the Los Angeles Guitar Quartet at: [1]https://youtu.be/2Om2GoiUYfw A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Mar 14, 2016, at 9:01 AM, M Hall <[4]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: Yes - I think you should - and post it on Youtube if you can. It would be a nice tribute to him. Monica -Original Message- From: [5]jo.lued...@t-online.de [[6]mailto:jo.lued...@t-online.de] Sent: 14 March 2016 15:33 To: M Hall; [7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: AW: [LUTE] Breaking news Dear Monica, thank you - even if his is sad news! I have thought from time to time of arranging "Farewell to Stromness" (from Davies' "Yellow Cake Revue") for lute, maybe I should realize this now! Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Breaking news Datum: 2016-03-14T16:16:35+0100 Von: "M Hall" <[8]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> An: "Lutelist" <[9]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> The English composer Peter Maxwell Davies has died. I don't think he wrote any lute music (pity - it would have been interesting if he did) - but he was into early music at least in his youth. R.I.P. Monica -- To get on or off this list see list information at [10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. https://youtu.be/2Om2GoiUYfw 2. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. tel:408-921-3253 4. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 5. mailto:jo.lued...@t-online.de 6. mailto:jo.lued...@t-online.de 7. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 8. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 9. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: U.S.A source for Savarez lute strings.
I just bought some Savarez Alliance KF strings from: [1]https://www.stringsbymail.com I have used this site for Savarez guitar strings many times, and always got excellent service. I am also glad to support this site because they sponsor some outstanding young performers, especially Gohar Vardanyan. These strings came in ~2 days. I should mention that I had to wait a long time for a backorder for Pyramid strings on one occasion. Especially irritating because the strings were terrible. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Apr 26, 2016, at 9:20 PM, Herbert Ward <[4]wa...@physics.utexas.edu> wrote: How about a USA website that sells Savarez lute strings? To get on or off this list see list information at [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. https://www.stringsbymail.com/ 2. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. tel:408-921-3253 4. mailto:wa...@physics.utexas.edu 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] A source for Savarez lute strings-Details of latest excellent experience
I just bought more Savarez Alliance strings. I placed the order at 11:29 on May 9th. One hour later, the order was packed and sent to the post office. Three hours later there was a tracking number from the post office. The strings arrived in my mail on May 12 along with a hand written note from the president, John Wunsch, thanking me for the order. Can't do a whole lot better than that! A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Apr 27, 2016, at 11:31 AM, John Mardinly <[3]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote: I just bought some Savarez Alliance KF strings from: [1][4]https://www.stringsbymail.com I have used this site for Savarez guitar strings many times, and always got excellent service. I am also glad to support this site because they sponsor some outstanding young performers, especially Gohar Vardanyan. These strings came in ~2 days. I should mention that I had to wait a long time for a backorder for Pyramid strings on one occasion. Especially irritating because the strings were terrible. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2][5]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Apr 26, 2016, at 9:20 PM, Herbert Ward <[4][6]wa...@physics.utexas.edu> wrote: How about a USA website that sells Savarez lute strings? To get on or off this list see list information at [5][7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. [8]https://www.stringsbymail.com/ 2. [9]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. [10]tel:408-921-3253 4. [11]mailto:wa...@physics.utexas.edu 5. [12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 4. https://www.stringsbymail.com/ 5. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 6. mailto:wa...@physics.utexas.edu 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 8. https://www.stringsbymail.com/ 9. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 10. tel:408-921-3253 11. mailto:wa...@physics.utexas.edu 12. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A source for Savarez lute strings-Details of latest excellent experience
I passed this query on to Strings by Mail and got this response: We do ship to the UK. Shipping times do vary with IPA shipments and there is little tracking info. If you upgrade to USPS Priority the shipping time is much shorter and you will get tracking from door to door. Although you will pay 2 to 3 times as much. Also be aware there is not only an import taxes in the UK but you also have a Royal tax. Please check with your local custom agency to find out the regulations. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On May 14, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Martyn Hodgson <[3]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: If only there was a UK supplier with such efficiency and good stock. I can't find one. Does anybody have such a UK based supplier? MH __ From: John Mardinly <[4]john.mardi...@asu.edu> To: Herbert Ward <[5]wa...@physics.utexas.edu> Cc: "[6]Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <[7]Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Friday, 13 May 2016, 18:41 Subject: [LUTE] A source for Savarez lute strings-Details of latest excellent experience I just bought more Savarez Alliance strings. I placed the order at 11:29 on May 9th. One hour later, the order was packed and sent to the post office. Three hours later there was a tracking number from the post office. The strings arrived in my mail on May 12 along with a hand written note from the president, John Wunsch, thanking me for the order. Can't do a whole lot better than that! A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1][1][8]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Apr 27, 2016, at 11:31 AM, John Mardinly <[3][2][9]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote: I just bought some Savarez Alliance KF strings from: [1][4][3][10]https://www.stringsbymail.com I have used this site for Savarez guitar strings many times, and always got excellent service. I am also glad to support this site because they sponsor some outstanding young performers, especially Gohar Vardanyan. These strings came in ~2 days. I should mention that I had to wait a long time for a backorder for Pyramid strings on one occasion. Especially irritating because the strings were terrible. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2][5][4][11]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Apr 26, 2016, at 9:20 PM, Herbert Ward <[4][6][5][12]wa...@physics.utexas.edu> wrote: How about a USA website that sells Savarez lute strings? To get on or off this list see list information at [5][7][6][13]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.ht ml References 1. [8][7][14]https://www.stringsbymail.com/ 2. [9]mailto:[8][15]john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. [10][16]tel:408-921-3253 4. [11]mailto:[9][17]wa...@physics.utexas.edu 5. [12][10][18]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. mailto:[11][19]john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. [20]tel:408-921-3253 3. mailto:[12][21]john.mardi...@asu.edu 4. [13][22]https://www.stringsbymail.com/ 5. mailto:[14][23]john.mardi...@asu.edu 6. mailto:[15][24]wa...@physics.utexas.edu 7. [16][25]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 8. [17][26]https://www.stringsbymail.com/ 9. mailto:[18][27]john.mardi...@asu.edu 10. [28]tel:408-921-3253 11. mailto:[19][29]wa...@physics.utexas.edu 12. [20][30]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [31]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. [32]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. [33]https://www.stringsbymail.com/ 4. [34]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 5. [35]mailto:wa...@physics.utexas.edu 6. [36]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 7. [37]https://www.stringsbymail.com/ 8. [38]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 9. [39]mailto:wa...@physics.utexas.edu 10. [40]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 11. [41]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 12. [42]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 13. [43]https://www.stringsbymail.com/ 14. [44]mai
[LUTE] Re: gluing body fret
"the one who walks up to classical guitarists, ostentatiously takes out his nail clipper, and trims his right-hand nails." ?? Not nice. Uncalled for. Not even funny. That sounds like something Donald Trump or Rodrigo Duterte would do. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Jun 8, 2016, at 2:38 PM, howard posner <[3]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote: On Jun 8, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Dan Winheld <[4]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote: And is it still good for guitarist's fingernails? I'm just grateful that the question is no longer relevant to my life. I had a packet-a-day gelatin habit because of my nails when I was in college, but years of therapy healed me and made me the man I am today--the one who walks up to classical guitarists, ostentatiously takes out his nail clipper, and trims his right-hand nails. To get on or off this list see list information at [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 4. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Respighi and lute sources
The Molinaro is pretty easy for me. ~45 years ago I acquired a copy of the complete "Intavolatura Di Liuto" by Molinari. It is 115 pages of music all transcribed to guitar notation by Giuseppe Gullino and Piero Jahier in 1963. I have put "Il Conte Orlando in a Dropbox folder for anyone to help themselves. It is a delight to play-just pretend you are playing an 8 string guitar and everything falls in place nicely. I would love to get the source for Laura Soave, or any of the others, because the Molinari is all I have. [1]https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1w2zw4b2gv353s6/AACH4aNgoZSVf4Z1N4acFu4ta ?dl=0 A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Jun 25, 2016, at 12:09 PM, Christopher Stetson <[4]christophertstet...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello, Andreas and all. Paul O'Dette has already done the research: [1][5]http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ancient-airs-and-dances-16th-ce ntury -songs-dances-for-lute-paul-odette/8650158 I don't have the CD at hand, but I believe the liner notes contain all the sources. It's also quite a nice recording, though now getting old. Best to all, Chris. On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Andreas Schlegel <[2][6]lute.cor...@sunrise.ch> wrote: Dear collected wisdom, i was asked by a friend about the exact sources to the three Respighi-suites [3][7]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Airs_and_Dances Some are easily to find (f.ex. Laura soave) - but others are quite difficult (f.ex. the Siciliana which is not in the collected works of Santino Garsi, ed. by Dieter Kirsch). Has somebody a list from the exact sources (with page/folio number)? Thanks a lot for any support! Andreas To get on or off this list see list information at [4][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [9]http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ancient-airs-and-dances-16th-century -songs-dances-for-lute-paul-odette/8650158 2. [10]mailto:lute.cor...@sunrise.ch 3. [11]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Airs_and_Dances 4. [12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1w2zw4b2gv353s6/AACH4aNgoZSVf4Z1N4acFu4ta?dl=0 2. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. tel:408-921-3253 4. mailto:christophertstet...@gmail.com 5. http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ancient-airs-and-dances-16th-century 6. mailto:lute.cor...@sunrise.ch 7. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Airs_and_Dances 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 9. http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ancient-airs-and-dances-16th-century-songs-dances-for-lute-paul-odette/8650158 10. mailto:lute.cor...@sunrise.ch 11. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Airs_and_Dances 12. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Quick Callus
Anybody ever try this stuff? In the 4 months since I retired and have playing as much as possible every day, either I have not built up callouses, or they wear off faster than I can rebuild them, and my fingers have just been killing me. Maybe it's just oulde age that I can't grow callouses like when I was young, but since I discovered this stuff, my life has been much better. [1]https://www.quikcallus.com A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! References 1. https://www.quikcallus.com/ 2. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. tel:408-921-3253 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Quick Callus
Ron; What I wanted to avoid was pain, misery and frustration. In 4 months of playing as much as possible every day (frustratingly not enough), I was hoping to at at least "condition" my LH fingertips (thick callousnesses not really needed, I thought) , but it just wasn't happening. This QuickCallus stuff has helped tremendously. Well, at 67, a lot of things don't work like they did when I was young, but I thought 4 months would have been enough to condition my fingertips to play at least 4 hours. Apparently not. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Jun 26, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Ron Andrico <[3]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: I should think that you would want to avoid heavy calluses like those a guitarist might have, particularly on the right hand. I find that the sort of left-hand calluses I develop playing steel-stringed guitar can be problematic in terms of the essential light touch needed for fingering the strings of the lute with clarity and agility. Usually, I have to swear off playing guitar for several days before playing a lute concert. Ron Andrico __ From: [4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of John Mardinly <[6]john.mardi...@asu.edu> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 9:54 PM To: lute list Subject: [LUTE] Quick Callus Anybody ever try this stuff? In the 4 months since I retired and have playing as much as possible every day, either I have not built up callouses, or they wear off faster than I can rebuild them, and my fingers have just been killing me. Maybe it's just oulde age that I can't grow callouses like when I was young, but since I discovered this stuff, my life has been much better. [1][7]https://www.quikcallus.com A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2][8]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! References 1. [1][9]https://www.quikcallus.com/ [2]Quik Callus. The original liquid callus enhancer for ... [10]www.quikcallus.com Quik Callus - A safe, non-toxic artificial callus for musicians, runners, and weightlifters that promotes natural callus development. Prevents guitar finger pain ... 2. [3][11]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. [12]tel:408-921-3253 To get on or off this list see list information at [4][13]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [14]https://www.quikcallus.com/ 2. [15]https://www.quikcallus.com/ 3. [16]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 4. [17]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com 4. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 5. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 6. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 7. https://www.quikcallus.com/ 8. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 9. https://www.quikcallus.com/ 10. http://www.quikcallus.com/ 11. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 12. tel:408-921-3253 13. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 14. https://www.quikcallus.com/ 15. https://www.quikcallus.com/ 16. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 17. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Quick Callus
Martin; Thank you for the word of caution. Actually, I am acutely aware of the hazards of relentless practice. 40 years ago, I severely injured the tendons of my left hand during a one-month-long burst of 8 hours per day intense practice (half on large-scale Ramirez guitar), something that is not 100% recovered today, and which requires soaking my left hand in warm water for ~75 minutes (wearing a nitrile glove) every morning, plus careful self monitoring for pain, which tells me when to stop. The glove, I believe, minimizes damage to any callouses. So, now my limit on practicing had been pain from beaten-up fingertips until I found QuickCallus. Any, it is interesting feedback if indeed few if any other lutenist experience this problem. BTW, I use nylon strings, ~27 newton tension, and a very low action such that there is some buzzing. As for "mindless practicing", yes, that is a concern, so I take breaks, much more so than when I was young. However, I do notice that it seems to take longer to memorize things than it did when I was young, so there is a second meaning to the phrase "mindless practice" As for how much practice is necessary? I read an interview with Paul O'Dette in which he stated he practiced 3.5 hours per day, and saw an interview with Julian Bream in which he stated he practiced 8 hours per day, so what is the right amount? I'm sure it varies with different individuals, their abilities, available time, goals and reasons for playing. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Jun 26, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Martin Shepherd <[3]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> wrote: Dear John, I don't know what tension you have on your lute, what kind of strings, or how high the action is, but I suspect you may be pressing too hard. If so, you want to go easy on that 4 hours per day routine, you could do serious damage. I can think of at least one serious professional lute player who wouldn't dream of doing more than two hours per day. In any case the number of hours is not important, it's what you're doing that matters. Mindless practicing of scales (for example) is not helpful. Best wishes, Martin On 26/06/2016 20:13, John Mardinly wrote: Ron; What I wanted to avoid was pain, misery and frustration. In 4 months of playing as much as possible every day (frustratingly not enough), I was hoping to at at least "condition" my LH fingertips (thick callousnesses not really needed, I thought) , but it just wasn't happening. This QuickCallus stuff has helped tremendously. Well, at 67, a lot of things don't work like they did when I was young, but I thought 4 months would have been enough to condition my fingertips to play at least 4 hours. Apparently not. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1][4]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Jun 26, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Ron Andrico <[3][5]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: I should think that you would want to avoid heavy calluses like those a guitarist might have, particularly on the right hand. I find that the sort of left-hand calluses I develop playing steel-stringed guitar can be problematic in terms of the essential light touch needed for fingering the strings of the lute with clarity and agility. Usually, I have to swear off playing guitar for several days before playing a lute concert. Ron Andrico _ _ From: [4][6]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[5][7]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of John Mardinly <[6][8]john.mardi...@asu.edu> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 9:54 PM To: lute list Subject: [LUTE] Quick Callus Anybody ever try this stuff? In the 4 months since I retired and have playing as much as possible every day, either I have not built up callouses, or they wear off faster than I can rebuild them, and my fingers have just been killing me. Maybe it's just oulde age that I can't grow callouses like when I was young, but since I discovered this stu
[LUTE] Re: Quick Callus
I do remember the days when I was a teenager that I needed to file excess callous material from my fingertips. However, I am having just the opposite problem today. Comments on the "QuickCallus" web site suggest that many other players of string instruments have a similar problem from time to time. In addition, it is suggested for rock climbers, weight lifters, barefoot runners etc. Whatever, I have found that it helps me immensely, and I just wanted to let other lute-listers in on the secret if they felt they could benefit. For those that play already completely free of fingertip discomfort, wonderful! On Jun 26, 2016, at 11:58 AM, guy_and_liz Smith <[1]guy_and_...@msn.com> wrote: I sometimes have to actually remove callus, especially from the tip of my middle finger, where it can form a sort of corn that creates a point force on the underlying tissue that can get quite uncomfortable. It seems to be more of a problem with theorbo than Ren lute, perhaps because my theorbo has single strings, which concentrate the pressure on the finger more than the double stringing on my Ren lutes. Side note: I once knew a French Horn player who practiced so much that he had to have a corn removed from his lip. Guy Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 18:13:14 + To: [2]praelu...@hotmail.com CC: [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: [4]john.mardi...@asu.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Quick Callus Ron; What I wanted to avoid was pain, misery and frustration. In 4 months of playing as much as possible every day (frustratingly not enough), I was hoping to at at least "condition" my LH fingertips (thick callousnesses not really needed, I thought) , but it just wasn't happening. This QuickCallus stuff has helped tremendously. Well, at 67, a lot of things don't work like they did when I was young, but I thought 4 months would have been enough to condition my fingertips to play at least 4 hours. Apparently not. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1][5]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Jun 26, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Ron Andrico <[3][6]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: I should think that you would want to avoid heavy calluses like those a guitarist might have, particularly on the right hand. I find that the sort of left-hand calluses I develop playing steel-stringed guitar can be problematic in terms of the essential light touch needed for fingering the strings of the lute with clarity and agility. Usually, I have to swear off playing guitar for several days before playing a lute concert. Ron Andrico __ From: [4][7]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[5][8]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of John Mardinly <[6][9]john.mardi...@asu.edu> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 9:54 PM To: lute list Subject: [LUTE] Quick Callus Anybody ever try this stuff? In the 4 months since I retired and have playing as much as possible every day, either I have not built up callouses, or they wear off faster than I can rebuild them, and my fingers have just been killing me. Maybe it's just oulde age that I can't grow callouses like when I was young, but since I discovered this stuff, my life has been much better. [1][7][10]https://www.quikcallus.com A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2][8][11]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! References 1. [1][9][12]https://www.quikcallus.com/ [2]Quik Callus. The original liquid callus enhancer for ... [10][13]www.quikcallus.com Quik Callus - A safe, non-toxic artificial callus for musicians, runners, and weightlifters that promotes natural callus development. Prevents guitar finger pain ... 2. [3][11][14]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. [12][15]tel:408-921-3253 To get on or off this list see list information at [4][13][16]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [14][17]https://www.quikcallus.com/ 2. [15][18]https://www.quikcallus.com/ 3. [16][19]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 4. [17][20]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. [21]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. [22]tel:408-921-3253 3. [23]mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com 4. [24]mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 5.
[LUTE] Re: Robert Barto on vihuela
Thanks so much for the post. These performances transcend breathtaking ethereal magnificence. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Jul 7, 2016, at 4:59 AM, Daniel Shoskes <[3]kidneykut...@gmail.com> wrote: From the LSA 2016 Festival in Cleveland OH. Bob's course was on dedillo and there are several great examples in his recital. [4]https://youtu.be/pIe4vq6NDwg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrFg1tmXzzw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RwGooyoZjg To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. mailto:kidneykut...@gmail.com 4. https://youtu.be/pIe4vq6NDwg
[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - The anti-lute
HWell, with a bit of imagination, it sort of sounds like a crumhorn ensemble A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Jul 16, 2016, at 7:34 AM, Roman Turovsky <[3]r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: You might want to check out this TV program about both things together - [4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kuQZJuF_tI RT On 7/16/2016 10:27 AM, Ron Andrico wrote: We have posted our Saturday morning quote, this week featuring the anti-lute. [1]http://wp.me/p15OyV-2Y6 Ron & Donna -- References 1. http://wp.me/p15OyV-2Y6 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. mailto:r.turov...@gmail.com 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kuQZJuF_tI
[LUTE] Re: blog post
Martin; Your remark about vacationing in Corsica with your lute caught my attention. Did you fly? If so, how were you able to travel with your lute without risking its destruction at the hands of baggage handlers? Thanks. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Aug 4, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Martin Shepherd <[3]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> wrote: Dear Martyn (and All), I'm not ruling out the possibility of loaded strings, but I do think the evidence from bridge holes is mixed, in the sense that we would have to be absolutely certain that a bridge with small holes was original. Even with modern gut strings it's possible to string a 6c lute with only plain gut (well, high twist or whatever) in the bass and also a 13c swan neck lute! The difficult cases are the 8 to 10 course lutes, the 13c bass rider type, also the liuto attiorbato, for all of which loaded basses might well be the answer. I can't send attachments to the list but I'm sending you another painting from 1576 which shows strings very clearly and they're remarkably thin. Best wishes, Martin On 04/08/2016 14:55, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Hello Martin, Nice site and blog. I seem to recall that when loaded strings first came out (25 yrs ago?) that some of the evidence for their use was found in the small diameter holes in some lute bridges. To maintain string tensions at around present day levels the hypothesis was therefore that the old bass strings would have been dense than plain gut - hence 'loaded'. I also recall that somebody (might have been Eph Segerman) at the time also pointed out an alternative for such relatively small diameter holes: that the tensions of the bass strings might be much lower than the upper courses. In short just as you're suggesting. My experience of doing this at the time was that one needed to play very close to the bridge to gain any projection and, of course, this is precisely what most old sources (from c.1600 onwards) tell us. So you may be right - that basses were often(always?) at a significantly lower tension than the upper courses. Having said this, I did like Mimmo's loaded strings very much and, of course, they also possibly indicate loading because of their distinctive colour. All food for thought.. regards, Martyn ___ ___ From: Martin Shepherd <[4]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> To: Lute List <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2016, 12:51 Subject: [LUTE] blog post Hi All, Just to let you know that I have put up a new blog post - let me know your thoughts. [1][6]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lutesho p.co.uk_some-2Dthoughts-2Don-2Dstring-2Dtension_&d=CwIC-g&c=AGbYxfJb XK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3N w-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=dIKEOGooyYMh7O0EJ1DY_qoF136V1VaiSq74nqeCB7w&s=lQ7Waz UrnMNYc6AP5APBqzTuRSOPuE_hhVHw8srEIbI&e= Best wishes, Martin --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. [2][7]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.av ast.com_antivirus&d=CwIC-g&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1I xfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=dIKEOGooyYMh7O0 EJ1DY_qoF136V1VaiSq74nqeCB7w&s=FJqwcr0Ggtk9W2PpnABsnHrPx1wXpG5mdG4bP 9wUzxU&e= To get on or off this list see list information at [3][8]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs. dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIC-g&c=AGbYxfJbXK67 KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61 ygSK-LNEQ&m=dIKEOGooyYMh7O0EJ1DY_qoF136V1VaiSq74nqeCB7w&s=-_s8cWX79E Qwr4czNgvCusf4gtyuVAapvpSM7_JD5j4&e= -- References 1. [9]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__luteshop.co.u k_some-2Dthoughts-2Don-2Dstring-2Dtension_&d=CwIC-g&c=AGbYxfJbXK67Kf XyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61yg SK-LNEQ&m=dIKEOGooyYMh7O0EJ1DY_qoF136V1VaiSq74nqeCB7w&s=lQ7WazUrnMNY c6AP5APBqzTuRSOPuE_hhVHw8srEIbI&e= 2. [10]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.avast.c om_antivirus&d=CwIC-g&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&
[LUTE] Re: blog post
Martin; In the US, the Department of Transportation has enacted rule DOT-OST-2014-0231-0001 which requires airlines to allow musical instruments in overhead bins if there is room. That is, the instruments must be allowed on board, and if there is room in the overhead bins the instrument can go in there, and CANNOT be removed to make room for suitcases. it is "first come, first served", but if there is no room, the instrument must be checked or the owner can opt to re-schedule the flight. Purchasing some sort of "early boarding" is advised for travelers with instruments. Is there something similar in Europe? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Aug 4, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Martin Shepherd <[3]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> wrote: This was before 2011, so I just took it as hand luggage. Those were the days I do recommend Corsica, though, having been there several times in about 2003-7. It's one of the few places I know where you can be sitting on a beach or at a harbourside restaurant in a temperature of about 30 degrees, and looking at a mountain top with snow on it. M On 04/08/2016 19:02, John Mardinly wrote: Martin; Your remark about vacationing in Corsica with your lute caught my attention. Did you fly? If so, how were you able to travel with your lute without risking its destruction at the hands of baggage handlers? Thanks. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1][4]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Aug 4, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Martin Shepherd <[3][5]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> wrote: Dear Martyn (and All), I'm not ruling out the possibility of loaded strings, but I do think the evidence from bridge holes is mixed, in the sense that we would have to be absolutely certain that a bridge with small holes was original. Even with modern gut strings it's possible to string a 6c lute with only plain gut (well, high twist or whatever) in the bass and also a 13c swan neck lute! The difficult cases are the 8 to 10 course lutes, the 13c bass rider type, also the liuto attiorbato, for all of which loaded basses might well be the answer. I can't send attachments to the list but I'm sending you another painting from 1576 which shows strings very clearly and they're remarkably thin. Best wishes, Martin On 04/08/2016 14:55, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Hello Martin, Nice site and blog. I seem to recall that when loaded strings first came out (25 yrs ago?) that some of the evidence for their use was found in the small diameter holes in some lute bridges. To maintain string tensions at around present day levels the hypothesis was therefore that the old bass strings would have been dense than plain gut - hence 'loaded'. I also recall that somebody (might have been Eph Segerman) at the time also pointed out an alternative for such relatively small diameter holes: that the tensions of the bass strings might be much lower than the upper courses. In short just as you're suggesting. My experience of doing this at the time was that one needed to play very close to the bridge to gain any projection and, of course, this is precisely what most old sources (from c.1600 onwards) tell us. So you may be right - that basses were often(always?) at a significantly lower tension than the upper courses. Having said this, I did like Mimmo's loaded strings very much and, of course, they also possibly indicate loading because of their distinctive colour. All food for thought.. regards, Martyn __ _ ___ From: Martin Shepherd <[4][6]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> To: Lute List <[5][7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2016, 12:51 Subject: [LUTE] blog post Hi All, Just to let you know that
[LUTE] Re: Protocol was Re: Privacy
To me, the real tragedy of YouTube is that they pander to some of the lowest forms of entertainment imaginable. I have, unfortunately learned about some of them from my 14 year old daughter. Top of the trash heap is PewDiePie, a purveyor of profanity, stupidity and trash with 42 million subscribers and an income from YouTube of approximately $14 Million dollars per year. My daughter is addicted to "Dan and Phil", panderers of senseless nonsense who earn $6 Million per year from 1.6 million subscribers. The list goes on and on ad nauseum. The old adage that TV was the vast wasteland has been replaced by YouTube being the vast wasteland. Whatever promise existed in the past for lutenists to make some money on YouTube could be very well obliterated by this assault from low budget, low skill set potty-mouthed amateurs commandeering the attention of the juvenile audience. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:41 AM, [3]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Clearly this is going to run and run as Martyn can never admit that he might be in the wrong. As far as I am aware Martyn does not know Anton personally, knows nothing about him or his work, doesn't understand why he is doing it or why he sends messages to the list to draw attention to it. I think it was officious and patronising of Martyn to contact Anton off the list and say to him - if this is what he did say "Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass? This would save you much mundane work making these unnecessary transcriptions/arrangements". Anton is a professional player and doesn't need any advice from Martyn. Other people certainly don't think that Anton's transcriptions are unnecessry. If what you want to say is not suitable to be said in public perhaps you should ask yourself what right you have to contact someone whom you have never met and say it to them in private. That seems like harassment to me. As ever Monica Original Message From: [4]ari...@hotmail.co.uk Date: 05/08/2016 12:38 To: "[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu"<[6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>, "[7]mjlh...@tiscali.co. uk"<[8]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Subj: Fw: Protocol was Re: [LUTE] Privacy Dear Monica, Well, to be clear, I didn't wish to say anything on the open list since, knowing how some may take any suggestion, even if meant helpfully (as explained in my longer subsequent posting), as a slight, a private rather than public message was thought more appropriate in this case. Just because someone's name is on this list doesn't prohibit one from conducting private communications if considered more appropriate (and tactful..). In general I think the usual protocol is probably the wisest to follow: a personal message is just that. Ralf Mattes well sets this out in his message yesterday. And yes, if we think it more appropriate to discuss things personally with another individual list member (who we may already know anyway) then I can see no problem with that. Indeed, some of the more useful and helpful messages I receive from time to time are by from individual list members not copied to the entire list. Horses for courses I think.. regards, Martyn. From: "[9]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" <[10]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> To: LutList <[11]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2016, 15:31 Subject: [LUTE] Privacy I think that what I was trying to say has been misconstrued - as is often the case with these arguments. If you are on Facebook - or Earlyguitar.ning people can only contact you directly if you accept them as friends. This list is different. Anyone can join, there is no moderator, nobody decides who may join. That means that everyone on the list has access to everyone else's e-mails. This facility should not be abused. As I understand it Martyn contacted Anton after he had posted details of his latest intabulations on this list. If Martyn has anything helpful to say that might help Anton to make his work even more useful than it is already - and a lot of people do find it very useful and are grateful to him for posting the details - then why not say it here. We have discussed this before. Does being on this list mean that anyone is entitled to engage in a one- to-one correspondence with you? Better leave it at that as this will probably be misconstrued too. Monica To get on or off this list see list information at [12]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v
[LUTE] Re: Protocol was Re: Privacy
True, but when PewDiePie makes $14M, Google makes money too, and they know it. That's why the site is geared to stuff like that. It may be good for my 401K, but Yuck! A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Aug 5, 2016, at 11:25 AM, [3]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: But on the other hand you can listen to almost anything on You Tube. Whenever our choirmaster comes up with a new anthem or mass setting or the vicar discovers another hymn we haven't had before I can usually find a recording of it instantly available on You Tube when I get home from church. You pays your money and takes your choice. Whether the artists make any money out of it is another matter. As ever MOnica Original Message From: [4]john.mardi...@asu.edu Date: 05/08/2016 17:25 To: "M Hall"<[5]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Cc: "LutList"<[6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>, "Martyn Hodgson" <[7]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> Subj: [LUTE] Re: Protocol was Re: Privacy To me, the real tragedy of YouTube is that they pander to some of the lowest forms of entertainment imaginable. I have, unfortunately learned about some of them from my 14 year old daughter. Top of the trash heap is PewDiePie, a purveyor of profanity, stupidity and trash with 42 million subscribers and an income from YouTube of approximately $14 Million dollars per year. My daughter is addicted to "Dan and Phil", panderers of senseless nonsense who earn $6 Million per year from 1.6 million subscribers. The list goes on and on ad nauseum. The old adage that TV was the vast wasteland has been replaced by YouTube being the vast wasteland. Whatever promise existed in the past for lutenists to make some money on YouTube could be very well obliterated by this assault from low budget, low skill set potty-mouthed amateurs commandeering the attention of the juvenile audience. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1][8]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:41 AM, [3][9]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Clearly this is going to run and run as Martyn can never admit that he might be in the wrong. As far as I am aware Martyn does not know Anton personally, knows nothing about him or his work, doesn't understand why he is doing it or why he sends messages to the list to draw attention to it. I think it was officious and patronising of Martyn to contact Anton off the list and say to him - if this is what he did say "Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass? This would save you much mundane work making these unnecessary transcriptions/arrangements". Anton is a professional player and doesn't need any advice from Martyn. Other people certainly don't think that Anton's transcriptions are unnecessry. If what you want to say is not suitable to be said in public perhaps you should ask yourself what right you have to contact someone whom you have never met and say it to them in private. That seems like harassment to me. As ever Monica Original Message From: [4][10]ari...@hotmail.co.uk Date: 05/08/2016 12:38 To: "[5][11]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu"<[6][12]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>, "[7][13]mjlh...@tiscali.co. uk"<[8][14]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Subj: Fw: Protocol was Re: [LUTE] Privacy Dear Monica, Well, to be clear, I didn't wish to say anything on the open list since, knowing how some may take any suggestion, even if meant helpfully (as explained in my longer subsequent posting), as a slight, a private rather than public message was thought more appropriate in this case. Just because someone's name is on this list doesn't prohibit one from conducting private communications if considered more appropriate (and tactful..). In general I think the usual protocol is probably the wisest to follow: a personal message is just that. Ralf Mattes well sets this out in his message yesterday. And yes, if we think it more appropriate to discuss things personally with another individual list member (who we may already know anyway) then I can see no problem with that. Indeed, some of the more useful and helpful messages I receive from time to time are by from individual list members not copied to the entire lis
[LUTE] Re: blog post
Actually that video was one of the factors that led to development of that rule DOT-OST-2014-0231-0001. However it is probably best to carry a print-out of the rule in case the airline staff does want to cooperate. A few months ago, a US Air pilot would not let Rachel Barton Pine travel with her violin, a 1742 "[1]ex-soldat" Guarneri del Gesu. [2]http://www.thestrad.com/cpt-latests/american-airlines-pilot-denies-r achel-barton-pine-access-to-cabin-with-her-violin/ A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [3]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [4]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Aug 5, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Alfred J Padilla MD <[5]gla...@optonline.net> wrote: For the benefit of those who may have joined the list within the past couple of years, and missed the wonderful video on United Airlines, here it is: [6]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com _watch-3Fv-3D5YGc4zOqozo&d=CwIC-g&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4 A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=lplD_WGSz30I6G aH3JXg1kPwyFyIOWHpSSd2Vase4Hc&s=txJfY8Ve6c-Z4hN7Ezk1u5kRPUjMbCllbXr9bnW aJxo&e= I've never flown with my lute; not sure if I would without a massively armored case. On 8/5/2016 1:35 PM, John Mardinly wrote: Martin; In the US, the Department of Transportation has enacted rule DOT-OST-2014-0231-0001 which requires airlines to allow musical instruments in overhead bins if there is room. That is, the instruments must be allowed on board, and if there is room in the overhead bins the instrument can go in there, and CANNOT be removed to make room for suitcases. it is "first come, first served", but if there is no room, the instrument must be checked or the owner can opt to re-schedule the flight. Purchasing some sort of "early boarding" is advised for travelers with instruments. Is there something similar in Europe? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1][7]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Aug 4, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Martin Shepherd <[3][8]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> wrote: This was before 2011, so I just took it as hand luggage. Those were the days I do recommend Corsica, though, having been there several times in about 2003-7. It's one of the few places I know where you can be sitting on a beach or at a harbourside restaurant in a temperature of about 30 degrees, and looking at a mountain top with snow on it. M On 04/08/2016 19:02, John Mardinly wrote: Martin; Your remark about vacationing in Corsica with your lute caught my attention. Did you fly? If so, how were you able to travel with your lute without risking its destruction at the hands of baggage handlers? Thanks. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1][4][9]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Aug 4, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Martin Shepherd <[3][5][10]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> wrote: Dear Martyn (and All), I'm not ruling out the possibility of loaded strings, but I do think the evidence from bridge holes is mixed, in the sense that we would have to be absolutely certain that a bridge with small holes was original. Even with modern gut strings it's possible to string a 6c lute with only plain gut (well, high twist or whatever) in the bass and also a 13c swan neck lute! The difficult cases are the 8 to 10 course lutes, the 13c bass rider type, also the liuto attiorbato, for all of which loaded basses might well be the answer. I can't send attachments to the list but I'm sending you another painting from 1576 which shows strings very clearly and they're remarkably thin. Best wishes, Martin On 04/08/2016 14:55, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Hello Martin, Nice site and blog. I seem to recall that
[LUTE] Re: blog post
What after the book? More "Merch"? Like sweatshirts, T-shirts, Hats, etc? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Aug 8, 2016, at 4:50 AM, Ed Durbrow <[3]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp> wrote: Good to see that again. I see there is now a book about his story. On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:55 AM, Alfred J Padilla MD <[4]gla...@optonline.net> wrote: For the benefit of those who may have joined the list within the past couple of years, and missed the wonderful video on United Airlines, here it is: [5]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube. com_watch-3Fv-3D5YGc4zOqozo&d=CwIF-g&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41Fq QuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=6SuBS wJKwMOynoAa9hNRGmm0Vc1t_6lWXI4UjmVgetg&s=IDjURvap6CgodvJt_6_iAOVr8Y2 LrGew0RRl9emLur0&e= cheers, View my music video 'Trumped' at: [6]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com _watch-3Fv-3DxrLe6TWO16A-26ab-5Fchannel-3DEdDurbrow&d=CwIF-g&c=AGbYxfJb XK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-6 1ygSK-LNEQ&m=6SuBSwJKwMOynoAa9hNRGmm0Vc1t_6lWXI4UjmVgetg&s=VP93HrOQ416- 4xT2CAuh6FSje0YNEA19gSNfw0jTzyk&e= -- To get on or off this list see list information at [7]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth .edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIF-g&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Eji z41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=6Su BSwJKwMOynoAa9hNRGmm0Vc1t_6lWXI4UjmVgetg&s=El0yaeQJsNuekBj6ZkhqWdTIm19B qj9XDu6QywZhmHk&e= References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 4. mailto:gla...@optonline.net 5. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3D5YGc4zOqozo&d=CwIF-g&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=6SuBSwJKwMOynoAa9hNRGmm0Vc1t_6lWXI4UjmVgetg&s=IDjURvap6CgodvJt_6_iAOVr8Y2LrGew0RRl9emLur0&e= 6. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DxrLe6TWO16A-26ab-5Fchannel-3DEdDurbrow&d=CwIF-g&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=6SuBSwJKwMOynoAa9hNRGmm0Vc1t_6lWXI4UjmVgetg&s=VP93HrOQ416-4xT2CAuh6FSje0YNEA19gSNfw0jTzyk&e= 7. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIF-g&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=6SuBSwJKwMOynoAa9hNRGmm0Vc1t_6lWXI4UjmVgetg&s=El0yaeQJsNuekBj6ZkhqWdTIm19Bqj9XDu6QywZhmHk&e=
[LUTE] Re: latest blog
Thanks. I liked the photos a lot also, especially the detail of the thumb sticking out past the index finger on every photo of a right hand plucking the strings. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Aug 20, 2016, at 12:51 AM, Martyn Hodgson <[3]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: All good stuff Martin - and a couple of pics I hadn't seen before. Thank you. Re the significance (or not) of coloured strings: I've previously wondered whether they might simply relate to the place where the strings were made. This does not necessarily rule out loaded strings being related to colour, since some places may have specialised in producing such strings, but could explain the apparently haphazard use on upper courses etc. regards Martyn __ From: Martin Shepherd <[4]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> To: Lute List <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Friday, 19 August 2016, 19:56 Subject: [LUTE] latest blog Hi All, A new blog - on coloured strings - can be found in the usual place: [1][6]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__luteshop.co .uk_blog_&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuG vnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NOVNZFA0HY6Y9mN7pWn9yjGUAO5XX zNpQbbKQlWvVhQ&sLtFGLUC57x1R3RvqWXS_iN9kpvAyTWpMzgI9BeuIw&e= I hoep you find it interesting. Martin --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. [2][7]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.avast. com_antivirus&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r= MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NOVNZFA0HY6Y9mN7pWn9yjGUA O5XXzNpQbbKQlWvVhQ&s=g0P8Grq4stWgN9SpTCmGfljRILoASrPdyz5-C8djCG8&e= To get on or off this list see list information at [3][8]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dart mouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqy v2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ& m=NOVNZFA0HY6Y9mN7pWn9yjGUAO5XXzNpQbbKQlWvVhQ&s=HZZbg-yeGlLQh9Q8PnTQLXB MY4qKULrFvLpRRewHB5I&e= -- References 1. [9]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__luteshop.co.uk_b log_&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTc VQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NOVNZFA0HY6Y9mN7pWn9yjGUAO5XXzNpQb bKQlWvVhQ&sLtFGLUC57x1R3RvqWXS_iN9kpvAyTWpMzgI9BeuIw&e= 2. [10]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.avast.com_ antivirus&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuG vnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NOVNZFA0HY6Y9mN7pWn9yjGUAO5XX zNpQbbKQlWvVhQ&s=g0P8Grq4stWgN9SpTCmGfljRILoASrPdyz5-C8djCG8&e= 3. [11]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmout h.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ej iz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NO VNZFA0HY6Y9mN7pWn9yjGUAO5XXzNpQbbKQlWvVhQ&s=HZZbg-yeGlLQh9Q8PnTQLXBMY4q KULrFvLpRRewHB5I&e= References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. mailto:hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk 4. mailto:mar...@luteshop.co.uk 5. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 6. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__luteshop.co.uk_blog_&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NOVNZFA0HY6Y9mN7pWn9yjGUAO5XXzNpQbbKQlWvVhQ&sLtFGLUC57x1R3RvqWXS_iN9kpvAyTWpMzgI9BeuIw&e= 7. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.avast.com_antivirus&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NOVNZFA0HY6Y9mN7pWn9yjGUAO5XXzNpQbbKQlWvVhQ&s=g0P8Grq4stWgN9SpTCmGfljRILoASrPdyz5-C8djCG8&e= 8. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NOVNZFA0HY6Y9mN7pWn9yjGUAO5XXzNpQbbKQlWvVhQ&s=HZZbg-yeGlLQh9Q8PnTQLXBMY4qKULrFvLpRRewHB5I&e= 9. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__luteshop.co.uk_blog_&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NOVNZFA0HY6Y9mN7pWn9yjGUAO5XXzNpQbbKQlWvVhQ&sLtFGLUC57x1R3RvqWXS_iN9kpvAyTWpMzgI9BeuIw&e= 10. https:/
[LUTE] Re: composed for the lute?
I wonder what would Diana Poulton say about this? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Martin Shepherd <[3]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> wrote: Hi all, You might find my latest blog interesting: [4]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__luteshop.co.uk_w as-2Ddowland-2Da-2Dcomposer-2Dof-2Dlute-2Dmusic_&d=CwICaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK6 7KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61yg SK-LNEQ&m=8nrvQlJPHNwP7kHI9dr4IVAg581I-uz6tga3N-1HsjI&s=LrnVb9jL_gyfqKz vneNa4rOwt8MMNIoe1dA2MxtoCf4&e= Best wishes, Martin --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. [5]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.avast.com_a ntivirus&d=CwICaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGv nWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=8nrvQlJPHNwP7kHI9dr4IVAg581I-u z6tga3N-1HsjI&s=ElhKkw0lJsnyGJr_p6TU_U8lnnKy0Ln21iFXj-ybQ7U&e= To get on or off this list see list information at [6]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth .edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwICaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Eji z41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=8nr vQlJPHNwP7kHI9dr4IVAg581I-uz6tga3N-1HsjI&s=ptyTFF1_LuTkv025nhHllFbA0s3N KJ9JT7nUbq-YeRk&e= References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. mailto:mar...@luteshop.co.uk 4. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__luteshop.co.uk_was-2Ddowland-2Da-2Dcomposer-2Dof-2Dlute-2Dmusic_&d=CwICaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=8nrvQlJPHNwP7kHI9dr4IVAg581I-uz6tga3N-1HsjI&s=LrnVb9jL_gyfqKzvneNa4rOwt8MMNIoe1dA2MxtoCf4&e= 5. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.avast.com_antivirus&d=CwICaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=8nrvQlJPHNwP7kHI9dr4IVAg581I-uz6tga3N-1HsjI&s=ElhKkw0lJsnyGJr_p6TU_U8lnnKy0Ln21iFXj-ybQ7U&e= 6. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwICaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=8nrvQlJPHNwP7kHI9dr4IVAg581I-uz6tga3N-1HsjI&s=ptyTFF1_LuTkv025nhHllFbA0s3NKJ9JT7nUbq-YeRk&e=
[LUTE] Re: composed for the lute?
An excellent parallel would be in The Countess of Pembroke, Mary Sidney, being credited for authorship of Shakespeare's plays. Or is it Pembrooke? In any case, in addition to shoes, I am sure they wore underwear, but there is little (as little as possible, I hope) written about that. [1]http://www.marysidneysociety.org A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Ron Andrico <[4]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: Ron reads his own pages and retains the information. The blog post Howard referenced has to do with Dowland's Marenzio connection and perhaps D's source of the Lachrimae motif. See my earlier response. RA __ From: [5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[6]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of David van Ooijen <[7]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 6:46 AM Cc: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Re: composed for the lute? On 17 September 2016 at 08:37, howard posner <[1][8]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote: Ron himself has brought up the Marenzio connection on his page: [2][9]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__migna rda.wordpress.com_2011_02_09_dowland-2D&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv 2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m =ilezhK7a1PS9JjNCYJ7-yCnxJKFiO7umf30VKnOu_Kg&s=Q0Lr9dQeVkgn9UJU-n1rw0oM M5xWNb0Go1CAtMiKF04&e= marenzio-and-lachrimae Well, there you go then. But maybe Ron doesn't read his own pages. David -- References 1. [1][10]mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 2. [2][11]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mignarda. wordpress.com_2011_02_09_dowland-2Dmarenzio-2Dand-2Dlachr&d=CwIBAg&c=AG bYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicP M3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=ilezhK7a1PS9JjNCYJ7-yCnxJKFiO7umf30VKnOu_Kg&s=oGnBhi wyxJGIXMGV9YzP55_IwCX1BF-3mMiLVVqLfRU&e= imae/ To get on or off this list see list information at [3][12]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dar tmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGq yv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ &m=ilezhK7a1PS9JjNCYJ7-yCnxJKFiO7umf30VKnOu_Kg&s=dkmhVL188Wd8vazn09iPw0 Y5lpmfr4f4Rr1IuYKmqK0&e= -- References 1. [13]mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 2. [14]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mignarda.wordp ress.com_2011_02_09_dowland-2Dmarenzio-2Dand-2Dlachrimae_&d=CwIBAg&c=AG bYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicP M3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=ilezhK7a1PS9JjNCYJ7-yCnxJKFiO7umf30VKnOu_Kg&s=vUO21a P9kqeLKmfsIEiXEsqsyMjGaYoE0R9BDk5RCQQ&e= 3. [15]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmout h.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ej iz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=il ezhK7a1PS9JjNCYJ7-yCnxJKFiO7umf30VKnOu_Kg&s=dkmhVL188Wd8vazn09iPw0Y5lpm fr4f4Rr1IuYKmqK0&e= References 1. http://www.marysidneysociety.org/ 2. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. tel:408-921-3253 4. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com 5. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 6. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 8. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 9. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mignarda.wordpress.com_2011_02_09_dowland-2D&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=ilezhK7a1PS9JjNCYJ7-yCnxJKFiO7umf30VKnOu_Kg&s=Q0Lr9dQeVkgn9UJU-n1rw0oMM5xWNb0Go1CAtMiKF04&e= 10. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 11. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mignarda.wordpress.com_2011_02_09_dowland-2Dmarenzio-2Dand-2Dlachr&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=ilezhK7a1PS9JjNCYJ7-yCnxJKFiO7umf30VKnOu_Kg&s=oGnBhiwyxJGIXMGV9YzP55_IwCX1BF-3mMiLVVqLfRU&e= 12. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=ilezhK7a1PS9JjNCYJ7-yCnxJKFiO7umf30VKnOu_Kg&s=dkmhVL188Wd8vazn09iPw0Y5lpmfr4f4Rr1IuYKmqK0&e= 13. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 14. https://urldefense.proofpoi
[LUTE] Re: Pad on back of pegbox.
Stew-Mac sells a tape called "Low Tack Protective Tape". This is a protective tape intended to be applied during repair work to protect the finish, and it is claimed to be easily removable without damage to the finish. I have not used it personally, just read the articles in the web site. [1]http://www.stewmac.com/SiteSearch/?search=low%20tack%20protective%20 tape A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Sep 21, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Herbert Ward <[4]wa...@physics.utexas.edu> wrote: My left thumbnails hits the back of the pegbox some times, and makes an annoying click. I'd like to attach a pad to the pegbox as a mute. For adhesion, ss there a better choice than good quality office tape (aka magic disappearing tape)? For me it usually comes off without leaving a residue. Sorry if this has been asked before. I did do some searching in the archives To get on or off this list see list information at [5]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth .edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Eji z41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=GKU tWwiOYwPQC2SyTcuB_HlhnFQtN9jekNnPXgHHDOE&s=X0exIBnkIgQXpNk73H8IqjZY252a JQsnGAWu50D5sCQ&e= References 1. http://www.stewmac.com/SiteSearch/?search=low%20tack%20protective%20tape 2. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. tel:408-921-3253 4. mailto:wa...@physics.utexas.edu 5. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=GKUtWwiOYwPQC2SyTcuB_HlhnFQtN9jekNnPXgHHDOE&s=X0exIBnkIgQXpNk73H8IqjZY252aJQsnGAWu50D5sCQ&e=
[LUTE] Re: lute repair Washington DC area
I had my lute undergo extensive restoration last year by Mel Wong. [1]http://www.blackbirdstringarts.com/about/ Just ship by UPS. Mel says he has never had a problem shipping by UPS. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labI won't be there! On Sep 22, 2016, at 12:24 PM, [4]cyndi...@netscape.net wrote: Hello I have an 8 course Yamaha lute, about 30 years old. Have not been able to play it lately because frets are loose, strings won't stay on etc. I would like it to have professional attention. I have called around. Not many folks around here have repaired lutes. They would have to send it out. Recommendations? Thanks Cyndi -- To get on or off this list see list information at [5]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth .edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Eji z41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-kR VCUm4cgxgX1PlnVcuqgpczedUeEYrWQ6MzLXbE2Y&s=XCdz7Lc5ORbh2jgwRIEPaDLMkbmX uiPzBFq_MPf5sU8&e= References 1. http://www.blackbirdstringarts.com/about/ 2. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. tel:408-921-3253 4. mailto:cyndi...@netscape.net 5. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-kRVCUm4cgxgX1PlnVcuqgpczedUeEYrWQ6MzLXbE2Y&s=XCdz7Lc5ORbh2jgwRIEPaDLMkbmXuiPzBFq_MPf5sU8&e=
[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto
Excellent "Thumb Out" playing. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labâ¦.I won't be there! On Oct 10, 2016, at 6:29 AM, fournierbru <[3]fournier...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello all I would like your opinions on this interpretation of the Vivaldu lute concerto I found on YouTube. [4]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_u9m3 ghjN0RE&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvn WTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=X7jBhpsSCZTNDftdYvaK4xC4t8-hv95 RQH564yADdwc&s=eyzmvoYmFQqIEr4RSSZboTqF8wgThEdm_kcTWi0F1c4&e= BRUNO Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network. To get on or off this list see list information at [5]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth .edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Eji z41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=X7j BhpsSCZTNDftdYvaK4xC4t8-hv95RQH564yADdwc&s=iucsHDMF4PhmB-2FGtxjS7pz9yIT bC9RovK7VGftOOw&e= References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. mailto:fournier...@gmail.com 4. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_u9m3ghjN0RE&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=X7jBhpsSCZTNDftdYvaK4xC4t8-hv95RQH564yADdwc&s=eyzmvoYmFQqIEr4RSSZboTqF8wgThEdm_kcTWi0F1c4&e= 5. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=X7jBhpsSCZTNDftdYvaK4xC4t8-hv95RQH564yADdwc&s=iucsHDMF4PhmB-2FGtxjS7pz9yITbC9RovK7VGftOOw&e=
[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto
Not true! "Segovian usually means unmusical, sloppy, irritating etc." for his solo playing, but when he played with an ensemble, he was forced to be disciplined and musical, like it or not. Just listen to his recordings of Rodrigo's Fantasia para un Gentlehombre, Ponce's Concerto del Sur, and Castelnuovo-Tedesco's Guitar Quintet. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. On Oct 11, 2016, at 2:46 AM, Roman Turovsky <[1]r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: There is really nothing Segovian about it. A Segovian usually means unmusical, sloppy, irritating etc. RT On 10/11/2016 5:09 AM, Diego Cantalupi wrote: The question is different: why one should play a baroque lute concerto on a lute-shaped guitar using an old fashon Segovian style? Il 11/10/2016 10:47, JarosÅaw Lipski ha scritto: On 11 Oct 2016, at 01:37, Roman Turovsky <[2]r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: Not really. There are a lot of factors in LF manufacture that are absent is this. Many people play single-strung archlutes with nails, some without. Stephen Stubbs with, Konrad Junghaenel and Konstantin Bozhinov without. RT Sure, I am not criticising anyone. On the contrary, I said Luca's performance was very successful. On the other hand one may ask questions like: why someone plays single strung archlute if there is little evidence for this type of instrument, why someone uses fingernails if the evidence speaks against using them, and why someone uses amplification (Noble prize for someone who'll find any evidence for this :)) And if all of this is used simultaneously, then one may assume it is not coincidental. Why? Because it is much more guitar-like, and most of lute players started their musical education as guitarists. Another problem is the fear of not being heard by an audience especially when playing in a group . Again, I am not criticising, however it should be pointed out that there are 2 ways of looking at authenticity IMHO, and someone who has no experience in early music may feel a little bit confused. Best JL On 10/10/2016 5:33 PM, JarosÅaw Lipski wrote: Name it as you like, for me itââ¬â¢s a Liuto forte. There is another version of RV93 played by Luca here [3]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube. com_watch-3Fv-3DJB101T-5FsVog&d=CwIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41 FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=3P9 QDlxbOgfZVomqcWiWBRDUwIPP4rko1mGvuO7pas0&s=lQHWwhXbLLNcN7YENyhOJtBTy y2JO7IH-yDcK3vPB6U&e= <[4]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube .com_watch-3Fv-3DJB101T-5FsVog&d=CwIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz4 1FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=3P 9QDlxbOgfZVomqcWiWBRDUwIPP4rko1mGvuO7pas0&s=lQHWwhXbLLNcN7YENyhOJtBT yy2JO7IH-yDcK3vPB6U&e= > The whole instrument is single strung again, and the evidence for this type of archlute stringing is very scarce as Howard rightly noticed. Luca uses fingernails, so this is another factor that influences the overall sound (not only mics). JL On 10 Oct 2016, at 22:28, Roman Turovsky <[5]r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: on a good authority of RT. Luca has at least 2 of these, one with a much longer extension. RT On 10/10/2016 4:16 PM, Jarosà âaw Lipski wrote: Really? Is there any evidence to support this theory? JL On 10 Oct 2016, at 22:15, Roman Turovsky <[6]r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: It is certainly NOT a liuto-forte, but a single-strung archlute by Luc Breton. RT On 10/10/2016 2:06 PM, Jarosà âaw Lipski wrote: The instrument in question is not an archlute or liuto attiorbato, but a liuto forte. Some lute players like Luca Pianca, Luciano Contini, Eric Bellocq and many others use it, however I would be far from saying that this is a historical instrument - see here [7]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__liuto-2Dforte .com_ueb-5F00-5Fen.html&d=CwIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZF k4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=3P9QDlxbO gfZVomqcWiWBRDUwIPP4rko1mGvuO7pas0&s=JQXm-pLZcbeuLRxq6AoMwiz59QL9UAt sertUf4NRHJ0&e= <[8]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__liuto-2Dfort e.com_ueb-5F00-5Fen.html&d=CwIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZ Fk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=3P9QDlxb OgfZVomqcWiWBRDUwIPP4rko1mGvuO7pas0&s=JQXm-pLZcbeuLRxq6AoMwiz59QL9UA tsertUf4NRHJ0&e= > Itâââ‰â¢s easier to play and was specially created with gui
[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi lute concerto
Thumb out, nails, nylon strings, metal wound basses, metal frets, bone saddle in bridge (Rubio lute), big sound, very hip. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labâ¦.I won't be there! On Oct 12, 2016, at 3:03 AM, Diego Cantalupi <[3]tio...@gmail.com> wrote: Some very HIP thumb out Vivaldi. [4]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com _watch-3Fv-3DqyY5pB2a0cU&d=CwICbA&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4 A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=Uvwpn9S28N1Ou3 _jJVK7LoMzllyUfc7hp8CrLZjA8rw&s=Z7T0l9y-FbAll94HDsczkd6xvDHPOJ7EZcPJoWG a5Fc&e= To get on or off this list see list information at [5]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth .edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwICbA&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Eji z41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=Uvw pn9S28N1Ou3_jJVK7LoMzllyUfc7hp8CrLZjA8rw&s=0muR66fCjmmqBcFCkn33nFVP3BN5 _XesfPp8ZrzDbwU&e= References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. mailto:tio...@gmail.com 4. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DqyY5pB2a0cU&d=CwICbA&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=Uvwpn9S28N1Ou3_jJVK7LoMzllyUfc7hp8CrLZjA8rw&s=Z7T0l9y-FbAll94HDsczkd6xvDHPOJ7EZcPJoWGa5Fc&e= 5. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwICbA&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=Uvwpn9S28N1Ou3_jJVK7LoMzllyUfc7hp8CrLZjA8rw&s=0muR66fCjmmqBcFCkn33nFVP3BN5_XesfPp8ZrzDbwU&e=
[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - A HIP score
If so, obviously not one Trump would molestâ¦.. On Oct 15, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Matthew Daillie <[1]dail...@club-internet.fr> wrote: Did she have a moustache? On 15/10/2016 21:46, Roman Turovsky wrote: the one I worked with - was happy in D. RT On 10/15/2016 3:40 PM, Matthew Daillie wrote: On 15/10/2016 21:38, Roman Turovsky wrote: I've been asked the "couldn't we do it lower in E?" question too many times. RT You should try sopranos. The question is always: 'don't you have a lute with a higher pitch?' Matthew To get on or off this list see list information at [2]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth .edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIC-g&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Eji z41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=Jb0 N2NvWndrnnn4LpJesKB8pJYHhHIz_1rmUEyR-kpU&s=AWMcDkzFL2_TUNmlKFw_62NOYPQp IyrRStqg_s42gjg&e= A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [3]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [4]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But donât call the labâ¦.I wonât be there! -- References 1. mailto:dail...@club-internet.fr 2. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwIC-g&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=Jb0N2NvWndrnnn4LpJesKB8pJYHhHIz_1rmUEyR-kpU&s=AWMcDkzFL2_TUNmlKFw_62NOYPQpIyrRStqg_s42gjg&e= 3. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 4. tel:408-921-3253
[LUTE] Re: Music and War
Sad, but there is worse. The destruction of the United States by a lunatic will begin on January 20th. [1]http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/spiegel-editorial-trump-is -a-dangerous-president-a-1120925.html A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labâ¦.I won't be there! On Jan 8, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Roman Turovsky <[4]r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: an experiment with cognitive dissonance inherent in our angst-ridden times - [1][5]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_B z2IbHPk7ok&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAu GvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-hTsIjKfbTZLZst0MAbZVfhd5KSw ljQ0t3kBqUwls9E&s=s_4LT_GKAfYjlyKO6kMZcLspS711664MrPhrSIJbw24&e= Cinematography by [2]ÐÐ¾Ð»Ð¾Ð´Ð¸Ð¼Ð¸Ñ Ð¥Ð°ÑÑенко, performed by [3]Stuart Walsh on an original 19th century 7string guitar, music by yours truly, originally for 13course lute: [4][6]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__torban.org_im ages_250rondo.pdf&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfA U&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-hTsIjKfbTZLZst0MAbZV fhd5KSwljQ0t3kBqUwls9E&s=hV3NJulaG_4sqIZkwIHVg0ttRUOYV9gooYH3ohw3YoQ&e= Filmed at the front, in Eastern Ukraine in 2016. Enjoy! Amities, RT -- References 1. [7]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_Bz2IbH Pk7ok&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWT cVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-hTsIjKfbTZLZst0MAbZVfhd5KSwljQ0t 3kBqUwls9E&s=s_4LT_GKAfYjlyKO6kMZcLspS711664MrPhrSIJbw24&e= 2. [8]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.co m_profile.php-3Fid0002999263809&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41F qQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-hTsIjK fbTZLZst0MAbZVfhd5KSwljQ0t3kBqUwls9E&s=uaVIPK0N12pHa5VSq2rR_PIkIf2rX6lc Igl6QyngUPs&e= 3. [9]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.co m_stuart.walsh.5&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU &r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-hTsIjKfbTZLZst0MAbZVf hd5KSwljQ0t3kBqUwls9E&s=w_zQR4SvyOtuw2SUqlbWOPP8u4oKjyylouJXOAE2dxs&e= 4. [10]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__torban.org_imag es_250rondo.pdf&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU& r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-hTsIjKfbTZLZst0MAbZVfh d5KSwljQ0t3kBqUwls9E&s=hV3NJulaG_4sqIZkwIHVg0ttRUOYV9gooYH3ohw3YoQ&e= To get on or off this list see list information at [11]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmout h.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ej iz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-h TsIjKfbTZLZst0MAbZVfhd5KSwljQ0t3kBqUwls9E&s=5gkM8RKF-PVaTmJ_Nq3lzXHVfJi 7YlC-qHg042fbCwQ&e= References 1. http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/spiegel-editorial-trump-is-a-dangerous-president-a-1120925.html 2. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. tel:408-921-3253 4. mailto:r.turov...@gmail.com 5. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_Bz2IbHPk7ok&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-hTsIjKfbTZLZst0MAbZVfhd5KSwljQ0t3kBqUwls9E&s=s_4LT_GKAfYjlyKO6kMZcLspS711664MrPhrSIJbw24&e= 6. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__torban.org_images_250rondo.pdf&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-hTsIjKfbTZLZst0MAbZVfhd5KSwljQ0t3kBqUwls9E&s=hV3NJulaG_4sqIZkwIHVg0ttRUOYV9gooYH3ohw3YoQ&e= 7. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_Bz2IbHPk7ok&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-hTsIjKfbTZLZst0MAbZVfhd5KSwljQ0t3kBqUwls9E&s=s_4LT_GKAfYjlyKO6kMZcLspS711664MrPhrSIJbw24&e= 8. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_profile.php-3Fid0002999263809&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-hTsIjKfbTZLZst0MAbZVfhd5KSwljQ0t3kBqUwls9E&s=uaVIPK0N12pHa5VSq2rR_PIkIf2rX6lcIgl6QyngUPs&e= 9. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_stuart.walsh.5&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-
[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain
No contest-I use and love the Savarez (on my 8-course) not just because of the sustain, but they pick up the vibrations from the treble strings and give an ethereal sound to the instrument. It's like having your own cathedral at home without the expense. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labâ¦.I won't be there! On Jan 8, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Rob MacKillop <[3]robmackil...@gmail.com> wrote: Here's a very short video comparing the sustain time of a new Aquila Loaded Nylgut string and a Savarez copper-wound nylon-silk core bass string. [1][4]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_8 FVJMk-5FXjv0&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=M AuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NKGb8KFtR8fCEKGtEBxMo1-yxg s2r4018W6q7RfkDRM&s=vK-hlBzsEByZNXDC5i5LH-YYypqOI8SeRkGnBq_bAco&e= My ears hear better than the microphone, and the useable sustain on the Aquila string is 4 seconds, while the Savarez is a long 8 seconds. With the Savarez, you will be required to stop pretty much every note you play in the bass. With the Aquila, less so. The Aquila do remind me of gut basses. I used to have an 11c completely strung in gut, and these loaded nylgut strings are very, very close. On the other hand...Mersenne says his basses sustain for almost 20 seconds!!! I'll stick with the Aquila. Rob -- References 1. [5]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_8FVJMk -5FXjv0&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvn WTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NKGb8KFtR8fCEKGtEBxMo1-yxgs2r40 18W6q7RfkDRM&s=vK-hlBzsEByZNXDC5i5LH-YYypqOI8SeRkGnBq_bAco&e= To get on or off this list see list information at [6]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth .edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Eji z41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NKG b8KFtR8fCEKGtEBxMo1-yxgs2r4018W6q7RfkDRM&s=0XK1Wa-RCG8wfXXk9ngP0lxby6vG Anwva6IfQbx-rWM&e= References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. mailto:robmackil...@gmail.com 4. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_8FVJMk-5FXjv0&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NKGb8KFtR8fCEKGtEBxMo1-yxgs2r4018W6q7RfkDRM&s=vK-hlBzsEByZNXDC5i5LH-YYypqOI8SeRkGnBq_bAco&e= 5. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_8FVJMk-5FXjv0&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NKGb8KFtR8fCEKGtEBxMo1-yxgs2r4018W6q7RfkDRM&s=vK-hlBzsEByZNXDC5i5LH-YYypqOI8SeRkGnBq_bAco&e= 6. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NKGb8KFtR8fCEKGtEBxMo1-yxgs2r4018W6q7RfkDRM&s=0XK1Wa-RCG8wfXXk9ngP0lxby6vGAnwva6IfQbx-rWM&e=
[LUTE] Re: Music and War
You might also want to stock up on canned food, strings. water purification equipment and iodine pills to deal with the falloutâ¦. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labâ¦.I won't be there! On Jan 8, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Roman Turovsky <[3]r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: let me put it this way - a lute a day keeps TrumPutin away. Especially if it has a Ukrainian flavor. RT On 1/8/2017 12:52 PM, John Mardinly wrote: Sad, but there is worse. The destruction of the United States by a lunatic will begin on January 20th. [1][4]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.spiegel .de_international_world_spiegel-2Deditorial-2Dtrump-2Dis&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGb YxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM 3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=ZAwYFMS7SreiehUbxWLBQpYGV3AX4NUgGzS0QK6XYsM&s=aGhPk8z Uu-XDuj91FW0ow9wdVLBdmiT_gIHVu7s_yBU&e= -a-dangerous-president-a-1120925.html A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [2][5]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [3]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labâ¦.I won't be there! On Jan 8, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Roman Turovsky <[4][6]r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: an experiment with cognitive dissonance inherent in our angst-ridden times - [1][5][7]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu .be_B z2IbHPk7ok&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=M Au GvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-hTsIjKfbTZLZst0MAbZVfhd5K Sw ljQ0t3kBqUwls9E&s=s_4LT_GKAfYjlyKO6kMZcLspS711664MrPhrSIJbw24&e= Cinematography by [2]ÐÐ¾Ð»Ð¾Ð´Ð¸Ð¼Ð¸Ñ Ð¥Ð°ÑÑенко, performed by [3]Stuart Walsh on an original 19th century 7string guitar, music by yours truly, originally for 13course lute: [4][6][8]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__torban.o rg_im ages_250rondo.pdf&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1Ix fA U&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-hTsIjKfbTZLZst0MAb ZV fhd5KSwljQ0t3kBqUwls9E&s=hV3NJulaG_4sqIZkwIHVg0ttRUOYV9gooYH3ohw3YoQ& e= Filmed at the front, in Eastern Ukraine in 2016. Enjoy! Amities, RT -- References 1. [7][9]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_B z2IbH Pk7ok&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvn WT cVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-hTsIjKfbTZLZst0MAbZVfhd5KSwljQ 0t 3kBqUwls9E&s=s_4LT_GKAfYjlyKO6kMZcLspS711664MrPhrSIJbw24&e= 2. [8][10]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.faceb ook.co m_profile.php-3Fid0002999263809&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz4 1F qQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-hTsI jK fbTZLZst0MAbZVfhd5KSwljQ0t3kBqUwls9E&s=uaVIPK0N12pHa5VSq2rR_PIkIf2rX6 lc Igl6QyngUPs&e= 3. [9][11]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.faceb ook.co m_stuart.walsh.5&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1Ixf AU &r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-hTsIjKfbTZLZst0MAbZ Vf hd5KSwljQ0t3kBqUwls9E&s=w_zQR4SvyOtuw2SUqlbWOPP8u4oKjyylouJXOAE2dxs&e = 4. [10][12]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__torban.or g_imag es_250rondo.pdf&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfA U& r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=-hTsIjKfbTZLZst0MAbZV fh d5KSwljQ0t3kBqUwls9E&s=hV3NJulaG_4sqIZkwIHVg0ttRUOYV9gooYH3ohw3YoQ&e= To get on or off this list see list information at [11][13]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.da rtmout h.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2 Ej iz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m= -h TsIjKfbTZLZst0MAbZVfhd5KSwljQ0t3kBqUwls9E&s=5gkM8RKF-PVaTmJ_Nq3lzXHVf Ji 7YlC-qHg042fbCwQ&e= -- References 1. [14]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.spiegel.de_ international_world_spiegel-2Deditorial-2Dtrump-2Dis-2Da-2Ddangerous-2D president-2Da-2D1120925.html&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQu ZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=ZAwYFMS7Sr eiehUbxWLBQpYGV3AX4NUgGzS0QK6XYsM&s=p8YKKXigVLNGvbBKqnUwxpZfane82YuVWC6 YtbLlG-Y&e= 2. [15]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. [16]tel:408-
[LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain
Huh? Folks, sound and vibration are one and the same. If the string can be seen to be vibrating and you can't hear it, it is either a problem with your hearing (which to be sure comes naturally with our advancing age), or there is sufficient ambient noise in the room or other notes being played that the sound is overwhelmed. You can be sure, that if the string is vibrating, there IS sound, whether your ears/brain sense it or not. The attenuation of the vibration follows a mathematical formula (exponential decay) that is related to internal damping and parasitic loss (which is energy transferred from the string to the body of the instrument). Attempting to ascribe a single time duration number to the sustain is an absurdity that violates the laws of physics. You can use a single number to approach some convenient threshold, say for example 75% attenuation (time to 75% reduction in volume), but 100% attenuation is something you would never be able to determine with any useful accuracy. Rob's video shows that it seems relatively easy to âqualitatively' assess the difference in sustain, but to put numbers on it, you would need to decide on some terminating threshold, and realize that the string is still vibrating and there is still sound beyond that terminating threshold. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labâ¦.I won't be there! On Jan 9, 2017, at 3:42 AM, Jean-Marie Poirier <[3]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: Not sure about that Mimmo... Mersenne is a scientist, therefore a precise observer and his observations are worth considering seriously. When he describes the duration of the sound of the bass stings of a lute, he takes care to precise ""...le son des grosses chordes de Luth est apperceu de l'oreille durant la sixiesme partie, ou le tiers d'une minute...", the sound is preceived by the ear for 10 to 20 seconds. And a few lines further he says : "...Il n'y a nul doute que la chorde se meut encore long-temps après que l'oreille en perd le son..." = there is no doubt that the strings still moves a long time after the ear has lost its sound. So he is not confusing vibration and sound, not at all ! Now, as Matthew remarked, we don't know about the conditions in which the test was done. If the lute is laid on a table, it might certainly influence the parameters of the experience... Best, Jean-Marie -- I am lucky: I have seen /installed strings on some hundreds od lutes in these last years. Maybe I can be in mistake, but I have never seen a lute, whose basses are roped strings or even loaded roped strings, whose sustain is so long. Even with modern Pyramid nylon wound strings (they have in absolute the higher density) . I would like to know if here there is somebody that can have a positive experience in matter. At present I would stick that Mersenne meant how many time last the vibration, not the sound. Mimmo -Messaggio originale- From: Matthew Daillie Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 10:52 AM To: Mimmo Peruffo Cc: Rob MacKillop ; Lute List Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain One thing nobody seems to have mentioned is the vast differences in sustain from one instrument to another. Maybe Mersenne's comments go to show just how good some lutes were at the time. If one was to rest a lute on the edge of a wooden table as they were wont to do at the time, then maybe those 20 seconds are not so unrealistic. Best, Matthew= To get on or off this list see list information at [4]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmo uth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGq yv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-L NEQ&mgCpPX7-QTOHbYqWuSyUTqerOFWHvwnWGtFZST9GXg8&s=V1-Mescs6gIDjdVHOl SP8VEmKgpA4u4e_0PqiwTxEdo&e= References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr 4. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&mgCpPX7-QTOHbYqWuSyUTqerOFWHvwnWGtFZST9GXg8&s=V1-Mescs6gIDjdVHOlSP8VEmKgpA4u4e_0PqiwTxEdo&e=
[LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing
Has anyone ever done a study of possible wrong notes in âForlorne Hope?" In Alonso Mudarra's Fantasia, there is, according to Pujol, a comment: âThere are are few false notes but they do not sound bad if played well'. So it may be an over reach to assume that unusual sounds may have a high probability of being typographical errors. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labâ¦.I won't be there! On Jan 15, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Alain Veylit <[3]al...@musickshandmade.com> wrote: I personally disagree with changing the rhythm in that bar. It is perfectly fine to my ear. There is a danger in over-correcting: it can take away the original flavor of the piece. If it can fly, let it fly. If it cannot fly, try to make it fly. In any case, wrong notes should always be accented, otherwise they sound like mistakes. On 01/15/2017 08:55 AM, Rainer wrote: On 15.01.2017 16:45, Ron Andrico wrote: Rainer, it's simply a difference in the application of an accidental, which most likely is a copyist's error - or a copyist's insipid choice, if he or she was unschooled in the proper horizontal tracking of parts. It's a grave misIn any case, wrong notes should always be acccented, otake to think of lute tablatures as the embodiment of the composer's intention, and many silly mistakes can be fixed simply by thinking in horizontal parts, as our 16th-century antecedents would have done, rather than our modern concept of vertical harmonies. By the way, I also believe that the rhythm in bar 4 has to be changed: |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ | |\ |. |\ | | | _c___a__ |_a___a___e___a__|| |_d___b___a__|| |_b___c__|| |_c__|| ||| Otherwise it doesn't match the upbeat before bar 1 (in case you repeat the strain) and I think the second strain needs a quarter note upbeat as well. I know that many people hesitate to change anything in such cases. However, don't forget, this was not copied by Dowland. Unfortunately no other copy/version of the piece has survived. Rainer RA From: [4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of Matthew Daillie <[6]dail...@club-internet.fr> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 2:20 PM To: Rainer; Lute net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing Dear Rainer, It doesn't sound awfully wrong to me. Furthermore, if you play just the bass line you will see that the voice moves in exactly the same fashion in bars 5 and 6. Best, Matthew On 15/01/2017 14:00, Rainer wrote: Dear lute netters, please note that the tablature snippets in this mail may look very strange if you do not use a fixed font or - much worse - your mail client wraps after 80 bytes. I am currently playing through the music supplement 100 (English Lute Society) and noticed some thing I had not noticed before. CLM 56 appears as |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ ||\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ | ||. |\ | |. |\ ||. |\ | |. |. |\ | |. |\ ||. |\ | | | _d__ _c___a___a__ _f___d___c__ _d___c___a___h___f___d__ _c___a__ _a__|_a___a___e___a__|_c___e___a___a__|_a___d___ ___|_a___a___e___a__| |_d___b___a__||_ ___|_d___b___a__| _c__|_b___c___c__|_e___b__|_f___ ___|_a___c__| |_c___a__|_c__|_ ___|_c__| |_d__|_c___a__|_a___d___ ___|| in the Poulton edition (1974) and in John's version in the supplement. I think it must be changed to (bar 4) |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ ||\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ | ||. |\ | |. |\ ||. |\ | |. |. |\ | |. |\ ||. |\ | | | _d__ _c___a___a__ _f___d___c__ _d___c___a___h___f___d__ _c___a__ _a__|_a___a___e___a__|_c___e___a___a__|_a___d___ ___|_a___a___e___a__| |_d___b_
[LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing
I think now, in the weird world of Trumpism, we would call them "Alternative Notes". A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But donât call the labâ¦.I wonât be there! On Jan 17, 2017, at 7:19 AM, Mathias Rösel <[3]mathias.roe...@t-online.de> wrote: Indeed, and it was Mudarra himself who wrote those words concerning "false notes" in his fantasia. I'd even be reluctant to translate "falsas" with "false notes" (Mathias, is that why you put it in quotes?) Yes. Mathias "Musica falsa" was a well established alternative term for "musica ficta", i.e. notes that are generated from hexachords other than the standard three. So, as an alternative (possible) translation one might read: " from here until the end you find some (disjunct) hexachords that, when played well appear to sound good." Not nearly as good a story as that about Mudarra making fun of Lodovico's skills as a harp player but actually rather convincing when you look at the music. And it give us valuable information on techniques used on diatonic harps to cope with the increasing needs of raised tones in cadences. Cheers, Ralf Mattes Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at [4]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmo uth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGq yv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-L NEQ&m=rHEm-2wyXDTorGs3mmZhE8D7GJUhjAi2fc5wOMSFRBs&s=lzMqTfYH3TiHSeP3 xSwR8gp85cdLdl-QOVnKH280Zes&e= -- References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. tel:408-921-3253 3. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de 4. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=rHEm-2wyXDTorGs3mmZhE8D7GJUhjAi2fc5wOMSFRBs&s=lzMqTfYH3TiHSeP3xSwR8gp85cdLdl-QOVnKH280Zes&e=
[LUTE] Test
ASU changed the Exchange server, and I have not seen any messages for a few days. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labâ¦.I won't be there! On Jan 26, 2017, at 5:07 PM, John Mardinly <[2]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote: I think now, in the weird world of Trumpism, we would call them "Alternative Notes". A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1][3]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But donââ¬â¢t call the labââ¬Â¦.I wonââ¬â¢t be there! On Jan 17, 2017, at 7:19 AM, Mathias Rösel <[3][4]mathias.roe...@t-online.de> wrote: Indeed, and it was Mudarra himself who wrote those words concerning "false notes" in his fantasia. I'd even be reluctant to translate "falsas" with "false notes" (Mathias, is that why you put it in quotes?) Yes. Mathias "Musica falsa" was a well established alternative term for "musica ficta", i.e. notes that are generated from hexachords other than the standard three. So, as an alternative (possible) translation one might read: " from here until the end you find some (disjunct) hexachords that, when played well appear to sound good." Not nearly as good a story as that about Mudarra making fun of Lodovico's skills as a harp player but actually rather convincing when you look at the music. And it give us valuable information on techniques used on diatonic harps to cope with the increasing needs of raised tones in cadences. Cheers, Ralf Mattes Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at [4][5]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.da rtmo uth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyG q yv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK- L NEQ&m=rHEm-2wyXDTorGs3mmZhE8D7GJUhjAi2fc5wOMSFRBs&s=lzMqTfYH3TiHSeP 3 xSwR8gp85cdLdl-QOVnKH280Zes&e= -- References 1. [6]mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. [7]tel:408-921-3253 3. [8]mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de 4. [9]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth .edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Eji z41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=rHE m-2wyXDTorGs3mmZhE8D7GJUhjAi2fc5wOMSFRBs&s=lzMqTfYH3TiHSeP3xSwR8gp85cdL dl-QOVnKH280Zes&e= References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 3. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 4. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de 5. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmo 6. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 7. tel:408-921-3253 8. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de 9. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIFaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=rHEm-2wyXDTorGs3mmZhE8D7GJUhjAi2fc5wOMSFRBs&s=lzMqTfYH3TiHSeP3xSwR8gp85cdLdl-QOVnKH280Zes&e=
[LUTE] Re: planetary tuners
I have planetary tuners called âPegheads'. They were installed in my 1970 David Rubio 8 course lute by Mel Wong during a restoration he did a year and a half ago. Let me share some observations: 1) The original friction pegs had gone very out of round and were very difficult to use. My understanding of this process is that it is caused by anisotropic expansion and contraction of the woods, which is extreme in regions that have extreme changes in humidity with the seasons. The 'Pegheads' seem immune to this problem. I know this can be avoided by regularly moving the pegs, but prior to the restoration, the instrument had been unplayable for over a decade, and I just never even took it out of the case to look at it. 2) The 4/1 mechanical advantage and absence of âsticking' make it much easier to adjust the tension on the string between the peg and the nut. 3) The improvement in adjusting the tension does not necessarily translate into improvement in tuning, since on my lute, the strings stick at the nut. Perhaps I need a new nut, or need to repair and re-install the âroller-nut' I built 40 years ago that I removed for the restoration. I have just been too busy playing, and perhaps a bit lazy and procrastinating so far. 4) Changing strings requires a lot more (4X) knob twisting, and they do not fit any guitar string winders I have seen. 5) As a former industrial and university failure analysis engineer, I am always worried that one day, something inside the peg head will go âPop', the peg won't work, and my lute will be essentially disabled, and I will not be able to fix it myself because I have no idea what the âguts' of the mechanism is or if there is even a way to take it apart for repair without destroying it. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer On Feb 11, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Roman Turovsky <[1]r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: A question for the Collective Wisdom: Looking for opinions on planetary tuners for lutes or vihuelas, cautionary tales, where to get them, which brands, how to install etc. Thank ye all, RT To get on or off this list see list information at [2]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth .edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQICaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Eji z41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=qhk PbCA9hO80PkW18vkevfqksMnDfwT3D4yosPLAH9Y&s=bWPEnXQeUDe15yQrHzezPd2v4Mu_ YRly_RHlQF1hFMs&e= References 1. mailto:r.turov...@gmail.com 2. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQICaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=qhkPbCA9hO80PkW18vkevfqksMnDfwT3D4yosPLAH9Y&s=bWPEnXQeUDe15yQrHzezPd2v4Mu_YRly_RHlQF1hFMs&e=
[LUTE] Re: planetary tuners
Michael; With standard pegs, they won't go out of round if you maintain them properly. That means loosening the peg by turning it and pulling out a bit so that there is just light pressure between the wooden parts. That compensates for the dimensional changes caused by humidity changes. Of course that throws the instrument out of tune, which means you might need to re-tune it, and if you have 42 lutesâ¦â¦you will need extra staff, medical marijuana or psychiatric treatment. However, you probably already know this. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer On Feb 11, 2017, at 5:32 PM, LSA Lute Rental Program <[1]lsaluteren...@gmail.com> wrote: About once a year the topic of planetary tuners comes up on this listserve. People weigh in for and against, sometimes (like last year) the discussion gets overheated as some who are against cite historical authenticity and other factors as reasons against and those who are for them cite the "make it easy on yourself--adopt modern methods" position to support their use. Then, after the dust settles, we discover we are pretty much evenly split for and against and the issue dies down only to rise again in 12 months. For those who do not wish to use planetary tuners, the most notable example of which is PegHedz, their best approach is not to use them. For those, like me, who have used them and like them very much indeed, the best approach is to keep using them. I have 42 instruments in the LSA's lute rental collection and if I had the money to do so I would install PegHedz on every single one. The LSA neither supports nor does not support the use of any particular tuner, including friction pegs or planetary tuners such as PegHedz. I am only telling you that I think they are such a valuable resource that I would put them on all the lutes if it could be afforded. It can't so I won't. But if I did it would forever eliminate the problem that aging lutes have of pegs that become out of round and needing replacing or retooling. It would also make tuning much easier for beginners--but that is just my opinion. So it seems best for us to use what we like as tuners and focus on the music we make with the strings. Let us all continue to make beautiful music no matter what method we use to tension our strings. Michael On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 5:53 PM Charles Mokotoff <[1][2]mokot...@gmail.com> wrote: Seems we are about 50/50 split on the peghedz... FWIW, I have used this device: [1][2][3]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.a mazon.com_Ernie-2DBall-2DPowerpeg-2DBattery-2DPowered_dp_&d=DQIBAg&c=AG bYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicP M3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NIRfj-oODuubeNdT31nk3d6Py8Hum4Es2kpGPoRLDp4&s=Z3rK7e E8clhRRlhovKEvSBAiguoaVaubyu-ARWOJktY&e= B0019H 6750/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid86853424&sr=8-1& to get around the tedium of string changing, its sort of fun actually, and fits my pegs fine. Admittedly, once I got the set correct, I change lute strings very rarely. On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 5:10 PM, <[2][3][4]jsl...@verizon.net> wrote: Dear All, I really don't think the planetary tuning pegs are necessary for a lute with good-fitting pegs. I find that a small amount of violin "peg dope" -- the hard, waxy type, not the softer gooey type -- is all the help my lute and vihuela pegs need. On the other hand, I did get them installed on my cittern, and they are a godsend. So, like Ms. Carlin, I would recommend them for wire-strung instruments, which have greater tuning difficulties. Cheers, Jim Stimson On 02/11/17, Roman Turovsky<[3][4][5]r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: A question for the Collective Wisdom: Looking for opinions on planetary tuners for lutes or vihuelas, cautionary tales, where to get them, which brands, how to install etc. Thank ye all, RT To get on or off this list see list information at [1][4][5][6]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www .cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK6 7KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61yg SK-LNEQ&m=NIRfj-oODuubeNdT31nk3d6Py8Hum4Es2k
[LUTE] Re: planetary tuners
So my suspicion that it could drive you nuts was well founded. Sounds like you may be an under-appreciated hero to Lutedom. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer On Feb 12, 2017, at 7:33 AM, LSA Lute Rental Program <[1]lsaluteren...@gmail.com> wrote: John, You are quite right and that would do much to solve the roundness problem. But my other problem is that the rental lutes are stored in 3 places across the US and since they are rentals they are rented out to people. This means we don't have access to the lutes because they are in the hands of the renters...sometimes for several years at a time. There are lutes in the collection that I have never even seen in person much less put my hands on so I can do things like you suggest. That is why I wish I could put PegHedz on them all--because I can't care for the friction pegs and even though I may ask renters to do so they are renters and not owners and sometimes their motivation to be thorough in care is, well, somewhat diminished to put it mildly. I also think renters would benefit from them as, to me, tuning is much easier and for people who are renting (this almost always means they are new to the lute--which is why they are renting) it would be, in my opinion, a benefit. But this is all just theoretical since we don't have the money it costs to replace the pegs. So we will live with what we have and I will deal with peg problems as they come up. Michael Michael M. Grant, PhD Director, Lute Rental Program Member, Board of Directors [uc?id9TJhsqVKmGMNWhuR19WWXJYQU0&export=download] [2]www.lutesocietyofamerica.org On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 11:46 PM, John Mardinly <[3]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote: Michael; With standard pegs, they won't go out of round if you maintain them properly. That means loosening the peg by turning it and pulling out a bit so that there is just light pressure between the wooden parts. That compensates for the dimensional changes caused by humidity changes. Of course that throws the instrument out of tune, which means you might need to re-tune it, and if you have 42 lutesâ¦â¦you will need extra staff, medical marijuana or psychiatric treatment. However, you probably already know this. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer On Feb 11, 2017, at 5:32 PM, LSA Lute Rental Program <[4]lsaluteren...@gmail.com> wrote: About once a year the topic of planetary tuners comes up on this listserve. People weigh in for and against, sometimes (like last year) the discussion gets overheated as some who are against cite historical authenticity and other factors as reasons against and those who are for them cite the "make it easy on yourself--adopt modern methods" position to support their use. Then, after the dust settles, we discover we are pretty much evenly split for and against and the issue dies down only to rise again in 12 months. For those who do not wish to use planetary tuners, the most notable example of which is PegHedz, their best approach is not to use them. For those, like me, who have used them and like them very much indeed, the best approach is to keep using them. I have 42 instruments in the LSA's lute rental collection and if I had the money to do so I would install PegHedz on every single one. The LSA neither supports nor does not support the use of any particular tuner, including friction pegs or planetary tuners such as PegHedz. I am only telling you that I think they are such a valuable resource that I would put them on all the lutes if it could be afforded. It can't so I won't. But if I did it would forever eliminate the problem that aging lutes have of pegs that become out of round and needing replacing or retooling. It would also make tuning much easier for beginners--but that is just my opinion. So it seems best for us to use what we like as tuners and focus on the music we make with the strings. Let us all continue to make beautiful music no matter what method we use to tension our strings. Michael On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 5:53 PM Charles Mokotoff <[1][5]mokot...@gmail.com> wrote: Seems we are about 50/50 split on the peghedz... FWIW, I have used this device: [1][2][6]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- 3A__www.amazon.com_Ernie-2DBall-2DPowerpeg-2DBattery- 2DPowered_dp_&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r= MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=NIRfj- oODuubeNdT31nk3d6Py8Hum4Es2kpGPoRLDp4&s=Z3rK7eE8clhRRlhovKEvSBAiguoaVa ubyu-ARWOJktY&e
[LUTE] Re: My Lady Careys Dompe
So is this the same Lady Carey that was also know as Lady Hunsdon, of âPuffe' fame? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: 408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labâ¦.I won't be there! On Feb 22, 2017, at 6:46 AM, G. C. <[2]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: Also available in supplement 61 (April 2002) This was in fact an arrangement for two lutes by Chris Goodwin. It is in the music supplement of Lute News No. 44 (December 1997) which I have miraculously found in a cardboard box if you want a copy. Best Matthew -- To get on or off this list see list information at [3]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth .edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Eji z41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=jiA -bGzzeP3EVdICvzsy9LHhfsjqeOgRTARCqHJJTVk&s=LfhzhN6bcPabhKgrzuaYnvqEgqOs T4wup25z4cOdxy4&e= References 1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu 2. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com 3. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=jiA-bGzzeP3EVdICvzsy9LHhfsjqeOgRTARCqHJJTVk&s=LfhzhN6bcPabhKgrzuaYnvqEgqOsT4wup25z4cOdxy4&e=
[LUTE] Re: basses in octaves
Simple physics: the strings are not uniform along their lengths, something that is actually difficult to achieve but something we have become accustomed to with newer more sophisticated methods of making strings. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer On Feb 28, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Bruno Cognyl-Fournier <[1]fournier...@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Collective wisdom, I have been tuning my 5 and 6th course in octaves for years, with wound strings and gut or nylgut. recently I bought the CD loaded strings from Mimmo and am slowly getting used to them. I have thus replaced the fundamental with CD loaded, while keeping my octave strings in gut or nylgut, this on two different lutes. I have noticed that the octaves are horribly out of tune as I go up the neck, especially by the time you get to the 7th fret. I realize I rarely have to play up there, but it bothers me. Am trying to figure out what the problem is.. would it be a mismatch of tension? or would it be the Loaded CD strings, that as some of you have probably found to be very elastic. I have never had this issue with wound string/gut combinations. I will be testing each string individually to check which one goes out of tune as you move up the scale, but I suspect it is the Loaded string that is giving me the problem. any comments? Bruno -- To get on or off this list see list information at [2]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth .edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Eji z41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=7m6 qXHFLDq4UJWi-GfyPBtaiVJ_kFOn69VHw637ynDA&s=-7bGiiHqnFJB7nQpHaP75B_8t262 6BCzYNa0fBzEKa4&e= -- References 1. mailto:fournier...@gmail.com 2. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=7m6qXHFLDq4UJWi-GfyPBtaiVJ_kFOn69VHw637ynDA&s=-7bGiiHqnFJB7nQpHaP75B_8t2626BCzYNa0fBzEKa4&e=
[LUTE] Re: "Irish" Renaissance Lute music for St. Patrick's Day?
Try this: 50 Easy Irish Favorites for Classical Guitar including notes and tablature, arranged by Jerry Williard [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R28IHCNWd94 $16.99 on Amazon [2]https://www.amazon.com/Easy-Irish-Favorites-Classical-Guitar/dp/1783 054395 ⢠An Irish Lullaby ⢠Drimindoo ⢠The Bard of Armagh ⢠I Lost My Love ⢠Song In Love A La Mode ⢠The Lamentation Of Owen O'Neil ⢠The Knockeen Free (The Heathery Little Hill) ⢠Ag Criost An Siol (To Christ The Seed) ⢠Old Traugh ⢠Saint Patrick's Day ⢠Pastheen Fuen ⢠Let Hoary Time ⢠Jigg ⢠Crested Hens ⢠In The Poor Soldier ⢠Fead An Iolair (The Eagle's Whistle) ⢠Da Slockit Light ⢠Be Thou My Vision ⢠Barbara Allen ⢠I Would Rather Than Ireland ⢠Molly Malone ⢠Johnny I Hardly Knew Ya (When Johnny Comes Marching Home Again) ⢠Mr. Donogh's Lamentation ⢠Morning Has Broken ⢠Paddy Whack ⢠Sally Gardens The Rose Tree ⢠The Foggy Dew ⢠The Water Is Wide ⢠'Tis Not Your Gold ⢠Single Jig ⢠Swallow's Nest ⢠The Protestant Boys ⢠The Galway Piper ⢠St. Anne's Reel ⢠Rakes Of Irish Men ⢠My Wild Irish Rose ⢠Believe Me, In All The Endearing Young Charms ⢠Londonderry Air ⢠The Rose Of Tralee ⢠The Mason's Apron ⢠Red Is The Rose ⢠St. Columbia ⢠Thomas O'Burke ⢠The Minstrel Boy ⢠The Little And Great Mountain ⢠The Irish Washerwoman ⢠Garry Owen ⢠When Irish Eyes Are Smiling ⢠The Kerry Dance On Mar 13, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Jacob Johnson <[3]tmrguitar...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello all, With St. Patrick's Day approaching, I was looking for something to work on this week that might be fitting. Can anyone point me to an "Irish" source or a few tunes? Even tunes simply titled in reference to Ireland would be most appreciated, and if you have the tablature handy I would be most indebted if you would be so kind as to share it with me! Thank you so much, Jacob Johnson [uc?export=download&id6_gM3BRE6ZrYVVZZU5QNmJqdDQ&revid6_g M3BRE6ZraW9nQ2U4SGNwV0tYVWxobnNBVjBsZi9FNHhzPQ] Guitar/Lute [1][4]www.johnsonguitarstudio.com 469.237.0625. [2][icon-signature.png] Sent with [3]Mailtrack [d2777c612db3c8eb6449dd73c2f2dad11c3451f1.png?u01086] -- References 1. [5]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.johnsonguita rstudio.com_&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=M AuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=XrYU9BRgj4z6lfoi_XMYNR2IdT G01pziFyGooY7gsYE&s=RCsrxUmI0SVmKAoVi3VrB9-2ajmupPx3QlDwTDdWwJg&e= 2. [6]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailtrack.io_&d =DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxOR gQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=XrYU9BRgj4z6lfoi_XMYNR2IdTG01pziFyGooY7g sYE&s60QgMPPJ6G9TE8PwyxyBnVIIDgbLxzpKAWBFBsUmQE&e= 3. [7]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailtrack.io_in stall-3Fsource-3Dsignature-26lang-3Den-26referral-3Dtmrguitarist-40gmai l.com-26idSignature-3D22&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4 A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=XrYU9BRgj4z6lf oi_XMYNR2IdTG01pziFyGooY7gsYE&s=G4s67TmGd2pU7iHLmxARha1lK7eKxGblq5B__r_ QY0s&e= To get on or off this list see list information at [8]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth .edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Eji z41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=XrY U9BRgj4z6lfoi_XMYNR2IdTG01pziFyGooY7gsYE&s=prz2QxNgecKncRYt2FBuoiJs1D3N -WlWmntH3yZWdvY&e= References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R28IHCNWd94 2. https://www.amazon.com/Easy-Irish-Favorites-Classical-Guitar/dp/1783054395 3. mailto:tmrguitar...@gmail.com 4. http://www.johnsonguitarstudio.com/ 5. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.johnsonguitarstudio.com_&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=XrYU9BRgj4z6lfoi_XMYNR2IdTG01pziFyGooY7gsYE&s=RCsrxUmI0SVmKAoVi3VrB9-2ajmupPx3QlDwTDdWwJg&e= 6. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailtrack.io_&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=XrYU9BRgj4z6lfoi_XMYNR2IdTG01pziFyGooY7gsYE&s60QgMPPJ6G9TE8PwyxyBnVIIDgbLxzpKAWBFBsUmQE&e= 7. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailtrack.io_install-3Fsource-3Dsignature-26lang-3Den-26referral-3Dtmrguitarist-40gmail.com-26idSignature-3D22&d=DQIBAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=XrYU9BRgj4z6lfoi_XMYNR2IdTG01pziFyGooY7gsYE&s=G4s67TmGd2pU7iHLmxARha1lK7eKxGblq5B__r_QY0s&e= 8. htt