[LUTE] Re: A rather old lute cameo
Here's the full IMDB entry - Unfortunately nothing much about the music or musicians there: [1]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0611663/fullcredits?ref_=ttfc_ql_1 It's strange how musicians are seldom if ever credited in these things. Music also seems to be the poor cousin when it comes to historical accuracy in some programmes. I have been watching some episodes of the new series The Musketeers - the dialogue is dreadful, but the sets, costumes and weapons seem to be spot-on for around 1630. Huge care has gone into what Richelieu wears and Louis XIII and Anne of Austria bear more than a passing resemblance to the people they represent. THEN in episode 3, Athos is in the boudoir of Milady de Winter and guess what? There's a 'lute' on the table. Except it's a modern mandolin with machine heads for goodness sake! Would they have substituted a flintlock pistol for a wheel lock one? Of course not. But if it's a musical instrument - What the hell, nodbody'll notice. OK I'm a nerd, but . . . Bill From: Thomas Walker twlute...@hotmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2014, 0:38 Subject: [LUTE] Re: A rather old lute cameo The Wolvercote Tongue, c. '87 or '88. Thanks all! Subject: Re: [LUTE] A rather old lute cameo From: [2]johnle...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 15:26:48 -0500 To: [3]twlute...@hotmail.com CC: [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Pretty sure it's Christopher Wilson. Sent from my Ouija board On Feb 4, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Thomas Walker [5]twlute...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello all, I was watching an old Inspector Morse episode, and lo and behold, there was a lute accompanying a countertenor for Sorrow Stay. I think the episode is nearing 30 years old, maybe around 1987...anyone have a clue as to the id of the performers? Just for curiosity's sake, Thomas Walker -- To get on or off this list see list information at [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- -- References 1. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0611663/fullcredits?ref_=ttfc_ql_1 2. mailto:johnle...@hotmail.com 3. mailto:twlute...@hotmail.com 4. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 5. mailto:twlute...@hotmail.com 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A rather old lute cameo
And related: Why do filmmakers almost never, make actors learn how to mimic the playing correctly? The most blatant recent example is A late quartet (2012), which is irritating in the extreme for a musician to watch! When will Hollywood acknowledge, that a huge part of viewers are actually able to play an instrument? Ridiculous! G. - Original Message - From: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk To: Thomas Walker twlute...@hotmail.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 10:30 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: A rather old lute cameo Here's the full IMDB entry - Unfortunately nothing much about the music or musicians there: [1]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0611663/fullcredits?ref_=ttfc_ql_1 It's strange how musicians are seldom if ever credited in these things. Music also seems to be the poor cousin when it comes to historical accuracy in some programmes. I have been watching some episodes of the new series The Musketeers - the dialogue is dreadful, but the sets, costumes and weapons seem to be spot-on for around 1630. Huge care has gone into what Richelieu wears and Louis XIII and Anne of Austria bear more than a passing resemblance to the people they represent. THEN in episode 3, Athos is in the boudoir of Milady de Winter and guess what? There's a 'lute' on the table. Except it's a modern mandolin with machine heads for goodness sake! Would they have substituted a flintlock pistol for a wheel lock one? Of course not. But if it's a musical instrument - What the hell, nodbody'll notice. OK I'm a nerd, but . . . Bill From: Thomas Walker twlute...@hotmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2014, 0:38 Subject: [LUTE] Re: A rather old lute cameo The Wolvercote Tongue, c. '87 or '88. Thanks all! Subject: Re: [LUTE] A rather old lute cameo From: [2]johnle...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 15:26:48 -0500 To: [3]twlute...@hotmail.com CC: [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Pretty sure it's Christopher Wilson. Sent from my Ouija board On Feb 4, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Thomas Walker [5]twlute...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello all, I was watching an old Inspector Morse episode, and lo and behold, there was a lute accompanying a countertenor for Sorrow Stay. I think the episode is nearing 30 years old, maybe around 1987...anyone have a clue as to the id of the performers? Just for curiosity's sake, Thomas Walker -- To get on or off this list see list information at [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- -- References 1. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0611663/fullcredits?ref_=ttfc_ql_1 2. mailto:johnle...@hotmail.com 3. mailto:twlute...@hotmail.com 4. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 5. mailto:twlute...@hotmail.com 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3684/7062 - Release Date: 02/04/14
[LUTE] Re: A rather old lute cameo
Then there's the film Nostradamus (1994) with an excellent soundtrack, with the New London Consort playing Susato dances in some bits. A scene in there, about midway through, has a country theatre in France in the 16th C with a modern metal Boehm flute right in front of the band. Edward Chrysogonus Yong edward.y...@gmail.com On 5 Feb, 2014, at 5:30 PM, William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Here's the full IMDB entry - Unfortunately nothing much about the music or musicians there: [1]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0611663/fullcredits?ref_=ttfc_ql_1 It's strange how musicians are seldom if ever credited in these things. Music also seems to be the poor cousin when it comes to historical accuracy in some programmes. I have been watching some episodes of the new series The Musketeers - the dialogue is dreadful, but the sets, costumes and weapons seem to be spot-on for around 1630. Huge care has gone into what Richelieu wears and Louis XIII and Anne of Austria bear more than a passing resemblance to the people they represent. THEN in episode 3, Athos is in the boudoir of Milady de Winter and guess what? There's a 'lute' on the table. Except it's a modern mandolin with machine heads for goodness sake! Would they have substituted a flintlock pistol for a wheel lock one? Of course not. But if it's a musical instrument - What the hell, nodbody'll notice. OK I'm a nerd, but . . . Bill From: Thomas Walker twlute...@hotmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2014, 0:38 Subject: [LUTE] Re: A rather old lute cameo The Wolvercote Tongue, c. '87 or '88. Thanks all! Subject: Re: [LUTE] A rather old lute cameo From: [2]johnle...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 15:26:48 -0500 To: [3]twlute...@hotmail.com CC: [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Pretty sure it's Christopher Wilson. Sent from my Ouija board On Feb 4, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Thomas Walker [5]twlute...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello all, I was watching an old Inspector Morse episode, and lo and behold, there was a lute accompanying a countertenor for Sorrow Stay. I think the episode is nearing 30 years old, maybe around 1987...anyone have a clue as to the id of the performers? Just for curiosity's sake, Thomas Walker -- To get on or off this list see list information at [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- -- References 1. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0611663/fullcredits?ref_=ttfc_ql_1 2. mailto:johnle...@hotmail.com 3. mailto:twlute...@hotmail.com 4. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 5. mailto:twlute...@hotmail.com 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A rather old lute cameo
Pretty sure it's Christopher Wilson. Sent from my Ouija board On Feb 4, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Thomas Walker twlute...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello all, I was watching an old Inspector Morse episode, and lo and behold, there was a lute accompanying a countertenor for Sorrow Stay. I think the episode is nearing 30 years old, maybe around 1987...anyone have a clue as to the id of the performers? Just for curiosity's sake, Thomas Walker -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A rather old lute cameo
The Wolvercote Tongue, c. '87 or '88. Thanks all! Subject: Re: [LUTE] A rather old lute cameo From: johnle...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 15:26:48 -0500 To: twlute...@hotmail.com CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Pretty sure it's Christopher Wilson. Sent from my Ouija board On Feb 4, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Thomas Walker twlute...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello all, I was watching an old Inspector Morse episode, and lo and behold, there was a lute accompanying a countertenor for Sorrow Stay. I think the episode is nearing 30 years old, maybe around 1987...anyone have a clue as to the id of the performers? Just for curiosity's sake, Thomas Walker -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --