[LUTE] Re: Dowland's pavan
Best wishes, Rainer aus dem Spring IT Application Services Tel.: +49 211-5296-355 Fax.: +49 211-5296-405 SMTP: rspringaus...@tee.toshiba.de -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of mathias.roe...@t-online.de Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:56 PM To: Ron Fletcher; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's pavan &g= t; Another way could be to say that, provided the phrase is used the &= gt; papal way, Solus cum sola is an Elizabethan way of alluding to >= ; intercourse of the sexes (not necessarily sexual intercourse). > > > Solus cum sola non cogitabuntur orare pater noster. &g= t; > > A man and a woman, alone together, will not think of saying th= eir > > > Pater Noster. > Pater might disapprov= e of their liaison! Yepp >B) Mat To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html CONFIDENTIALITY DISCLAIMER The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this message, delete any copies held on your systems and notify the sender immediately. You should not retain, copy or use this email for any purpose outside of any NDA currently existing between Toshiba Electronics Europe GmbH and yourselves. Toshiba Electronics Europe GmbH Hansaallee 181 - 40549 Duesseldorf - Germany Phone: +49 (211) 5296-0 - Fax: +49 (211) 5296-400 Handelsregister Duesseldorf HRB 22487 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Hitoshi Otsuka Amtsgericht Duesseldorf
[LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's pavan
&g= t; Another way could be to say that, provided the phrase is used the &= gt; papal way, Solus cum sola is an Elizabethan way of alluding to >= ; intercourse of the sexes (not necessarily sexual intercourse). > > > Solus cum sola non cogitabuntur orare pater noster. &g= t; > > A man and a woman, alone together, will not think of saying th= eir > > > Pater Noster. > Pater might disapprov= e of their liaison! Yepp >B) Mat To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's pavan
Another way could be to say that, provided the phrase is used the papal way, Solus cum sola is an Elizabethan way of alluding to intercourse of the sexes (not necessarily sexual intercourse). Mat > > Solus cum sola non cogitabuntur orare pater noster. > > > > A man and a woman, alone together, will not think of saying their > > Pater Noster. Pater might disapprove of their liaison! Ron (UK) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's pavan
> Interesting, however I'd like to have more info about this papal decree > and how it is related to Dowland's pavan... the answer is very simple: nobody knows. Rainer aus dem Spring Here in the UK, it is still illegal to not have an 'audible warning instrument' fitted to their bicycle. Many errant cyclists ask, 'Is a bell necessary on a bike?' The old coppers would name these 'Isabel'. So how about having an Isabel Pavan? The origin of Solus cum Sola seems just a vague! Best Wishes Ron (now a rainy UK) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's pavan
Bruno, one simple way would be to click on the respective link to our archives given below. The entry there includes another link to the source text of the papal decree. You can study it and try to find out. I mean, you yourself >8) Another way could be to say that, provided the phrase is used the papal way, Solus cum sola is an Elizabethan way of alluding to intercourse of the sexes (not necessarily sexual intercourse). Mat "Bruno Correia" schrieb: >Interesting, however I'd like to have more info about this papal decree >and how it is related to Dowland's pavan... >Thanks. > > Solus cum sola non cogitabuntur orare pater noster. > > > > A man and a woman, alone together, will not think of saying their > > Pater Noster. > > Indeed, and to say a bit more, this is not a proverb, but a papal > decree. See > http://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg20207.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's pavan
-Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Bruno Correia Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 3:18 AM To: List LUTELIST Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's pavan > Interesting, however I'd like to have more info about this papal decree > and how it is related to Dowland's pavan... the answer is very simple: nobody knows. Best wishes, Rainer aus dem Spring Thanks. 2009/7/2 "Mathias Roesel" <[1]mathias.roe...@t-online.de> "David van Ooijen" <[2]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> schrieb: > Solus cum sola non cogitabuntur orare pater noster. > > A man and a woman, alone together, will not think of saying their Pater Noster. Indeed, and to say a bit more, this is not a proverb, but a papal decree. See [3]http://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg20207.html -- Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de 2. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 3. http://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg20207.html 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html CONFIDENTIALITY DISCLAIMER The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this message, delete any copies held on your systems and notify the sender immediately. You should not retain, copy or use this email for any purpose outside of any NDA currently existing between Toshiba Electronics Europe GmbH and yourselves. Toshiba Electronics Europe GmbH Hansaallee 181 - 40549 Duesseldorf - Germany Phone: +49 (211) 5296-0 - Fax: +49 (211) 5296-400 Handelsregister Duesseldorf HRB 22487 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Hitoshi Otsuka Amtsgericht Duesseldorf
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's pavan
Interesting, however I'd like to have more info about this papal decree and how it is related to Dowland's pavan... Thanks. 2009/7/2 "Mathias Roesel" <[1]mathias.roe...@t-online.de> "David van Ooijen" <[2]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> schrieb: > Solus cum sola non cogitabuntur orare pater noster. > > A man and a woman, alone together, will not think of saying their Pater Noster. Indeed, and to say a bit more, this is not a proverb, but a papal decree. See [3]http://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg20207.html -- Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de 2. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 3. http://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg20207.html 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's pavan
"David van Ooijen" schrieb: > Solus cum sola non cogitabuntur orare pater noster. > > A man and a woman, alone together, will not think of saying their Pater > Noster. Indeed, and to say a bit more, this is not a proverb, but a papal decree. See http://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg20207.html -- Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's pavan
Solus cum sola non cogitabuntur orare pater noster. A man and a woman, alone together, will not think of saying their Pater Noster. David -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
