[LUTE] Re: Haslemere ms.
Dear Sean, The handwriting is NOT the same! Jacob was writing when in some quarters the mss were thought to have the same scribe. The person who made that claim realized in 1999 that he was mistaken, and has since corrected himself. The manuscript in question, by the way, is Ms II.C.23 in the Dolmetsch Library at Haslemere, which was most likely copied by several different scribes in Savona for a member of the della Robbia family, and came to Florence as dowry around 1634 when Vittoria II della Robbia (daughter of the last Duke of Urbino) married Ferdinando II dei Medici, Grand Duke of Tuscany. The Siena manuscript in The Hague is named according to information on the engraved spine on the 19th-century binding which reads Italienische Lautentabulatur gefunden in Siena 1863 F[ranz] G[ehring--the purchaser]. It has a Siena watermark and a layer of pieces by Siennese lutenist/composers. Its careful, uniform paleography suggests that it was copied in a music scriptorium by one professional scribe. See the detailed autopsy report with concordances on the Haslemere MS made *in situ* by John H. Robinson (with notes by Robert Spencer) and published in the Dolmetsch journal *The Consort* 26 (2006). AJN. - Original Message - From: Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:14 PM Subject: [LUTE] Haslemere ms. Jacob Heringman writes about the similarity of the scribes between the Siena ms. and a Haslemere manuscript in the booklet that accompanies his recording of the former. Is this available? Dolmetsch Library in Haslemere (MS II C23) many thanks in advance, Sean To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Haslemere ms.
Dear Denys and Arthur, Thank you for the leads. I will ask about the possibility of a microfilm. It's interesting that the Haslemere is not connected to the Siena after all. Indeed the Siena looks like a professional undertaking with specific requests as to its contents and looks to be done for the most part at one sitting. I was very intrigued by the possibility of Vestiva colli and others intabulated in the same style as the vocal works in Siena. best regards, Sean On Apr 4, 2012, at 3:22 PM, A. J. Ness wrote: Dear Sean, The handwriting is NOT the same! Jacob was writing when in some quarters the mss were thought to have the same scribe. The person who made that claim realized in 1999 that he was mistaken, and has since corrected himself. The manuscript in question, by the way, is Ms II.C.23 in the Dolmetsch Library at Haslemere, which was most likely copied by several different scribes in Savona for a member of the della Robbia family, and came to Florence as dowry around 1634 when Vittoria II della Robbia (daughter of the last Duke of Urbino) married Ferdinando II dei Medici, Grand Duke of Tuscany. The Siena manuscript in The Hague is named according to information on the engraved spine on the 19th-century binding which reads Italienische Lautentabulatur gefunden in Siena 1863 F[ranz] G[ehring--the purchaser]. It has a Siena watermark and a layer of pieces by Siennese lutenist/composers. Its careful, uniform paleography suggests that it was copied in a music scriptorium by one professional scribe. See the detailed autopsy report with concordances on the Haslemere MS made *in situ* by John H. Robinson (with notes by Robert Spencer) and published in the Dolmetsch journal *The Consort* 26 (2006). AJN. - Original Message - From: Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:14 PM Subject: [LUTE] Haslemere ms. Jacob Heringman writes about the similarity of the scribes between the Siena ms. and a Haslemere manuscript in the booklet that accompanies his recording of the former. Is this available? Dolmetsch Library in Haslemere (MS II C23) many thanks in advance, Sean To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Haslemere ms.
If anyone who is not a member of the LSA would like a copy of that Quarterly, I ahve a few spares. Email with your street address if you want a copy. Nancy At 03:13 PM 4/4/2012, Denys Stephens wrote: Dear Sean, There isn't a facsimile of the manuscript, but there is an excellent article about it by John H Robinson and some transcriptions in the Fall 2009 LSAQ. It would be worth enquiring with the Dolmetsch foundation to see if they have a microfilm. Best wishes, Denys -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [[1] mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Smith Sent: 04 April 2012 20:14 To: lute Subject: [LUTE] Haslemere ms. Jacob Heringman writes about the similarity of the scribes between the Siena ms. and a Haslemere manuscript in the booklet that accompanies his recording of the former. Is this available? Dolmetsch Library in Haslemere (MS II C23) many thanks in advance, Sean To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Nancy Carlin Associates P.O. Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA phone 925/686-5800 fax 925/680-2582 web sites - [3]www.nancycarlinassociates.com [4]www.groundsanddivisions.info Representing: FROM WALES - Crasdant Carreg Lafar, FROM ENGLAND - Jez Lowe Jez Lowe The Bad Pennies, and now representing EARLY MUSIC - The Venere Lute Quartet, The Good Pennyworths Morrongiello Young Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA web site - [5]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org -- References 1. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 4. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 5. http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/
