[LUTE] Re: Liuto attiorbato strings
Dear Bruno, You can try the gamut's strings calculator. It suggests the following setup for liuto attiorbato (aA5Hz): Thirteen Course Baroque Lute with Bass Extension String length for first courses 1 - 7 on fingerboard in cm (Range 68-82) String length for courses 8 - 13 on extension (Range 70-130) f-1 329.63 4Kg d-2 277.18 3.8Kg A a-3 207.65 3.4KgA F-4 164.8 3KgA D-5 138.59 2.8Kg A A-6 103.83 2.7KgA a-6 207.65 2.7KgA G-7 92.5 2.6KgA g-7 185 2.6Kg F-8 82.4 2.6Kg A f-8 164.8 2.6KgA E-9 77.78 2.6KgA e-9 155.56 2.6KgA D-10 69.3 2.6KgA d-10 138.59 2.6KgA C-11 61.47 2.6KgA c-11 123.47 2.6KgA B-12 58.2 2.6KgA b-12 116.54 2.6KgA A-13 51.91 2.6KgA a-13 103.83 2.6Kg So, as you can see, 2.6Kg is their proper tension for these courses. Anyway, you can play with the calculator and adjust it to your preferences. And, of course, you can also use their quick calculator (for custom hz, string length and tension calculations). We use it a lot in our store:A [1]http://www.cuerdaspulsadas.com/calculadoras-de-calibres Regards David Morales 2014-07-12 23:55 GMT+02:00 Bruno Correia <[2]bruno.l...@gmail.com>: A A Could someone tell the avarage tension for the basses and octaves for a A A liuto attiorbato (G at 415, 7 x2 = 635 cm, 7 x 2 = 92cm). I need to A A order strings and I'm pretty confused to calculate the basses and their A A octaves. The programs I've tried are for the long archlute, so the A A tension should not be the same, and there are also the octaves. A A Thanks. A A -- A A Bruno Figueiredo A A A A A Pesquisador autA'nomo da prA!tica e interpretaAS:A-L-o A A historicamente informada no alaA-ode e teorba. A A Doutor em PrA!ticas InterpretativasA pela A A Universidade Federal do Estado do Rio de Janeiro. A A -- To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- De conformidad con lo dispuesto en la Ley OrgA!nica 15/1999 de ProtecciA^3n de Datos de carA!cter Personal DAVID MORALES DE FRAAS, con domicilio en Salamanca, C/ Luis Vives, 6 - cuarto, le informa que los datos de carA!cter personal que facilite forman parte de un fichero, responsabilidad del mismo, para la gestiA^3n administrativa de los clientes. En el supuesto de que desee ejercitar los derechos que le asisten de acceso, rectificaciA^3n, cancelaciA^3n y oposiciA^3n dirija una comunicaciA^3n por escrito a la direcciA^3n indicada anteriormente o al correo electrA^3nico [4]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com con la referencia "ProtecciA^3n de Datos" incluyendo copia de su Documento Nacional de Identidad o documento identificativo equivalente. La informaciA^3n contenida en el presente mensaje de correo electrA^3nico es confidencial y su acceso A-onicamente estA! autorizado al destinatario original del mismo, quedando prohibidos cualquier comunicaciA^3n, divulgaciA^3n, o reenvAo, tanto del mensaje como de su contenido. En el supuesto de que usted no sea el destinatario autorizado, le rogamos borre el contenido del mensaje y nos comunique dicha circunstancia a travA(c)s de un mensaje de correo electrA^3nico a la direcciA^3n [5]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com -- References 1. http://www.cuerdaspulsadas.com/calculadoras-de-calibres 2. mailto:bruno.l...@gmail.com 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. mailto:h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com 5. mailto:h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com
[LUTE] Re: Liuto attiorbato strings
Thanks David, I have checked previuosly Gamut's calculator but I wasn't sure if I could use the same tension as the swan-neck. It might work, maybe something between 2.6 and 2.8 Kg. All the Best, Bruno. 2014-07-12 19:18 GMT-03:00 David Morales <[1]dmorale...@cuerdaspulsadas.com>: A A Dear Bruno, A A You can try the gamut's strings calculator. It suggests the following A A setup for liuto attiorbato (aA5Hz): A A A A Thirteen Course Baroque Lute with Bass Extension A A String length for first courses 1 - 7 on fingerboard in cm (Range A A 68-82) A A String length for courses 8 - 13 on extension (Range 70-130) A A f-1 329.63 4Kg A A d-2 277.18 3.8Kg A A A a-3 207.65 3.4KgA A A F-4 164.8 3KgA A A D-5 138.59 2.8Kg A A A A-6 103.83 2.7KgA A A a-6 207.65 2.7KgA A A G-7 92.5 2.6KgA A A g-7 185 2.6Kg A A F-8 82.4 2.6Kg A A A f-8 164.8 2.6KgA A A E-9 77.78 2.6KgA A A e-9 155.56 2.6KgA A A D-10 69.3 2.6KgA A A d-10 138.59 2.6KgA A A C-11 61.47 2.6KgA A A c-11 123.47 2.6KgA A A B-12 58.2 2.6KgA A A b-12 116.54 2.6KgA A A A-13 51.91 2.6KgA A A a-13 103.83 2.6Kg A A A A So, as you can see, 2.6Kg is their proper tension for these courses. A A Anyway, you can play with the calculator and adjust it to your A A preferences. And, of course, you can also use their quick calculator A A (for custom hz, string length and tension calculations). A A We use it a lot in our A A store:A [1][2]http://www.cuerdaspulsadas.com/calculadoras-de-calibres A A Regards A A David Morales A A 2014-07-12 23:55 GMT+02:00 Bruno Correia <[2][3]bruno.l...@gmail.com>: A A A A A A Could someone tell the avarage tension for the basses and A A A octaves for a A A A A A A liuto attiorbato (G at 415, 7 x2 = 635 cm, 7 x 2 = 92cm). I A A A need to A A A A A A order strings and I'm pretty confused to calculate the basses A A A and their A A A A A A octaves. The programs I've tried are for the long archlute, so A A A the A A A A A A tension should not be the same, and there are also the octaves. A A A A A A Thanks. A A A A A A -- A A A A A A Bruno Figueiredo A A A A A A A A A A A A A Pesquisador autA'nomo da prA!tica e interpretaAS:A-L-o A A A A A A historicamente informada no alaA-ode e teorba. A A A A A A Doutor em PrA!ticas InterpretativasA pela A A A A A A Universidade Federal do Estado do Rio de Janeiro. A A A A A A -- A A A To get on or off this list see list information at A A A [3][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html A A -- A A De conformidad con lo dispuesto en la Ley OrgA!nica 15/1999 de A A ProtecciA^3n de Datos de carA!cter Personal DAVID MORALES DE FRAAS, con A A domicilio en Salamanca, C/ Luis Vives, 6 - cuarto, le informa que los A A datos de carA!cter personal que facilite forman parte de un fichero, A A responsabilidad del mismo, para la gestiA^3n administrativa de los A A clientes. En el supuesto de que desee ejercitar los derechos que le A A asisten de acceso, rectificaciA^3n, cancelaciA^3n y oposiciA^3n dirija A A una comunicaciA^3n por escrito a la direcciA^3n indicada anteriormente A A o al correo electrA^3nico [4][5]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com con la referencia A A "ProtecciA^3n de Datos" incluyendo copia de su Documento Nacional de A A Identidad o documento identificativo equivalente. La informaciA^3n A A contenida en el presente mensaje de correo electrA^3nico es A A confidencial y su acceso A-onicamente estA! autorizado al destinatario A A original del mismo, quedando prohibidos cualquier comunicaciA^3n, A A divulgaciA^3n, o reenvAo, tanto del mensaje como de su contenido. En el A A supuesto de que usted no sea el destinatario autorizado, le rogamos A A borre el contenido del mensaje y nos comunique dicha circunstancia a A A travA(c)s de un mensaje de correo electrA^3nico a la direcciA^3n A A [5][6]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com A A -- References A A 1. [7]http://www.cuerdaspulsadas.com/calculadoras-de-calibres A A 2. mailto:[8]bruno.l...@gmail.com A A 3. [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html A A 4. mailto:[10]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com A A 5. mailto:[11]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com -- Bruno Figueiredo A Pesquisador autA'nomo da prA!tica e interpretaAS:A-L-o historicamente informada no alaA-ode e teorba. Doutor em PrA!ticas InterpretativasA pela Universidade Federal do Estado do Rio de Janeiro. --
[LUTE] Re: Liuto attiorbato strings
If you’re not in a hurry to get the instrument strung, you could try getting two courses based on whatever criteria you think appropriate, put them on, and see how they work. If they’re too big/tense, move them down (e.g., from ninth and tenth to tenth and eleventh) and if they’re too slack, move them up. When you’re satisfied with those two courses, order the other five or six courses accordingly. On Jul 12, 2014, at 3:30 PM, Bruno Correia wrote: > Thanks David, > I have checked previuosly Gamut's calculator but I wasn't sure if I > could use the same tension as the swan-neck. It might work, maybe > something between 2.6 and 2.8 Kg. > All the Best, > Bruno. > > 2014-07-12 19:18 GMT-03:00 David Morales > <[1]dmorale...@cuerdaspulsadas.com>: > > A A Dear Bruno, > A A You can try the gamut's strings calculator. It suggests the > following > > A A setup for liuto attiorbato (aA5Hz): > > A A > A A Thirteen Course Baroque Lute with Bass Extension > A A String length for first courses 1 - 7 on fingerboard in cm (Range > A A 68-82) > A A String length for courses 8 - 13 on extension (Range 70-130) > A A f-1 329.63 4Kg > > A A d-2 277.18 3.8Kg A > A A a-3 207.65 3.4KgA > A A F-4 164.8 3KgA > A A D-5 138.59 2.8Kg A > A A A-6 103.83 2.7KgA > A A a-6 207.65 2.7KgA > A A G-7 92.5 2.6KgA > A A g-7 185 2.6Kg > A A F-8 82.4 2.6Kg A > A A f-8 164.8 2.6KgA > A A E-9 77.78 2.6KgA > A A e-9 155.56 2.6KgA > A A D-10 69.3 2.6KgA > A A d-10 138.59 2.6KgA > A A C-11 61.47 2.6KgA > A A c-11 123.47 2.6KgA > A A B-12 58.2 2.6KgA > A A b-12 116.54 2.6KgA > A A A-13 51.91 2.6KgA > > A A a-13 103.83 2.6Kg > A A > A A So, as you can see, 2.6Kg is their proper tension for these > courses. > A A Anyway, you can play with the calculator and adjust it to your > A A preferences. And, of course, you can also use their quick > calculator > A A (for custom hz, string length and tension calculations). > A A We use it a lot in our > > A A store:A > [1][2]http://www.cuerdaspulsadas.com/calculadoras-de-calibres > A A Regards > A A David Morales > A A 2014-07-12 23:55 GMT+02:00 Bruno Correia > <[2][3]bruno.l...@gmail.com>: > A A A A A A Could someone tell the avarage tension for the basses > and > A A A octaves for a > A A A A A A liuto attiorbato (G at 415, 7 x2 = 635 cm, 7 x 2 = > 92cm). I > A A A need to > A A A A A A order strings and I'm pretty confused to calculate the > basses > A A A and their > A A A A A A octaves. The programs I've tried are for the long > archlute, so > A A A the > A A A A A A tension should not be the same, and there are also the > octaves. > A A A A A A Thanks. > A A A A A A -- > A A A A A A Bruno Figueiredo > A A A A A A A > A A A A A A Pesquisador autA'nomo da prA!tica e interpretaAS:A-L-o > A A A A A A historicamente informada no alaA-ode e teorba. > A A A A A A Doutor em PrA!ticas InterpretativasA pela > A A A A A A Universidade Federal do Estado do Rio de Janeiro. > A A A A A A -- > > A A A To get on or off this list see list information at > > A A A [3][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > A A -- > A A De conformidad con lo dispuesto en la Ley OrgA!nica 15/1999 de > A A ProtecciA^3n de Datos de carA!cter Personal DAVID MORALES DE > FRAAS, con > > A A domicilio en Salamanca, C/ Luis Vives, 6 - cuarto, le informa que > los > > A A datos de carA!cter personal que facilite forman parte de un > fichero, > A A responsabilidad del mismo, para la gestiA^3n administrativa de > los > > A A clientes. En el supuesto de que desee ejercitar los derechos que > le > > A A asisten de acceso, rectificaciA^3n, cancelaciA^3n y oposiciA^3n > dirija > A A una comunicaciA^3n por escrito a la direcciA^3n indicada > anteriormente > A A o al correo electrA^3nico [4][5]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com con la > referencia > A A "ProtecciA^3n de Datos" incluyendo copia de su Documento > Nacional de > A A Identidad o documento identificativo equivalente. La > informaciA^3n > A A contenida en el presente mensaje de correo electrA^3nico es > A A confidencial y su acceso A-onicamente estA! autorizado al > destinatario > A A original del mismo, quedando prohibidos cualquier > comunicaciA^3n, > A A divulgaciA^3n, o reenvAo, tanto del mensaje como de su > contenido. En el > > A A supuesto de que usted no sea el destinatario autorizado, le > rogamos > A A borre el contenido del mensaje y nos comunique dicha circunstancia > a > > A A travA(c)s de un mensaje de correo electrA^3nico a la > direcciA
[LUTE] Re: Liuto attiorbato strings
Hi Howard, Yes that's a very good advice.A Thanks. 2014-07-12 20:10 GMT-03:00 howard posner <[1]howardpos...@ca.rr.com>: If you're not in a hurry to get the instrument strung, you could try getting two courses based on whatever criteria you think appropriate, put them on, and see how they work. A If they're too big/tense, move them down (e.g., from ninth and tenth to tenth and eleventh) and if they're too slack, move them up. A When you're satisfied with those two courses, order the other five or six courses accordingly. On Jul 12, 2014, at 3:30 PM, Bruno Correia <[2]bruno.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > A Thanks David, > A I have checked previuosly Gamut's calculator but I wasn't sure if I > A could use the same tension as the swan-neck. It might work, maybe > A something between 2.6 and 2.8 Kg. > A All the Best, > A Bruno. > > A 2014-07-12 19:18 GMT-03:00 David Morales > A <[1][3]dmorale...@cuerdaspulsadas.com>: > > A A A A Dear Bruno, > A A A A You can try the gamut's strings calculator. It suggests the > A following > > A A A A A setup for liuto attiorbato (aA5Hz): > > A A A A > A A A A Thirteen Course Baroque Lute with Bass Extension > A A A A String length for first courses 1 - 7 on fingerboard in cm (Range > A A A A 68-82) > A A A A String length for courses 8 - 13 on extension (Range 70-130) > A A A A f-1 329.63 4Kg > > A A A A A d-2 277.18 3.8Kg A > A A A A A a-3 207.65 3.4KgA > A A A A A F-4 164.8 3KgA > A A A A A D-5 138.59 2.8Kg A > A A A A A A-6 103.83 2.7KgA > A A A A A a-6 207.65 2.7KgA > A A A A A G-7 92.5 2.6KgA > A A A A A g-7 185 2.6Kg > A A A A A F-8 82.4 2.6Kg A > A A A A A f-8 164.8 2.6KgA > A A A A A E-9 77.78 2.6KgA > A A A A A e-9 155.56 2.6KgA > A A A A A D-10 69.3 2.6KgA > A A A A A d-10 138.59 2.6KgA > A A A A A C-11 61.47 2.6KgA > A A A A A c-11 123.47 2.6KgA > A A A A A B-12 58.2 2.6KgA > A A A A A b-12 116.54 2.6KgA > A A A A A A-13 51.91 2.6KgA > > A A A A a-13 103.83 2.6Kg > A A A A > A A A A So, as you can see, 2.6Kg is their proper tension for these > A courses. > A A A A Anyway, you can play with the calculator and adjust it to your > A A A A preferences. And, of course, you can also use their quick > A calculator > A A A A (for custom hz, string length and tension calculations). > A A A A We use it a lot in our > > A A A A A store:A > A A [1][2][4]http://www.cuerdaspulsadas.com/calculadoras-de-calibres > A A A A A Regards > A A A A A David Morales > A A A A A 2014-07-12 23:55 GMT+02:00 Bruno Correia > A A <[2][3][5]bruno.l...@gmail.com>: > A A A A A A A A A A Could someone tell the avarage tension for the basses > A A and > A A A A A A A octaves for a > A A A A A A A A A A liuto attiorbato (G at 415, 7 x2 = 635 cm, 7 x 2 = > A A 92cm). I > A A A A A A A need to > A A A A A A A A A A order strings and I'm pretty confused to calculate the > A A basses > A A A A A A A and their > A A A A A A A A A A octaves. The programs I've tried are for the long > A A archlute, so > A A A A A A A the > A A A A A A A A A A tension should not be the same, and there are also the > A A octaves. > A A A A A A A A A A Thanks. > A A A A A A A A A A -- > A A A A A A A A A A Bruno Figueiredo > A A A A A A A A A A A > A A A A A A A A A A Pesquisador autA'nomo da prA!tica e interpretaAS:A-L-o > A A A A A A A A A A historicamente informada no alaA-ode e teorba. > A A A A A A A A A A Doutor em PrA!ticas InterpretativasA pela > A A A A A A A A A A Universidade Federal do Estado do Rio de Janeiro. > A A A A A A A A A A -- > > A A A A A A To get on or off this list see list information at > > A A A A A A A [3][4][6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > A A A A A -- > A A A A A De conformidad con lo dispuesto en la Ley OrgA!nica 15/1999 de > A A A A A ProtecciA^3n de Datos de carA!cter Personal DAVID MORALES DE > A A FRAAS, con > > A A A A domicilio en Salamanca, C/ Luis Vives, 6 - cuarto, le informa que > A los > > A A A A A datos de carA!cter personal que facilite forman parte de un > A A fichero, > A A A A A responsabilidad del mismo, para la gestiA^3n administrativa de > A A los > > A A A A clientes. En el supuesto de que desee ejercitar los derechos que > A le > > A A A A A asisten de acceso, rectificaciA^3n, cancelaciA^3n y oposiciA^3n > A A dirija > A A A A A una comunicaciA^3n por escrito a la direcciA^3n indicada > A A anteriormente > A A A A A o al corre
[LUTE] Re: Liuto attiorbato strings
I have never strung a liuto attiorbato but the principles should be exactly the same as for any other lute with an extended neck such a swan-neck 13-course. I find that the longer the string length, the more tension you have to put on to get the same feel under the fingers. Similarly, for a small instrument (such as a 6-course in a') the tension has to be considerably less. I find the string calculations given below to be rather odd. Personally I would definitely put more tension on the bass strings (I would aim for a little over 3Kg on the bass strings of the lower neck and say 3.2Kg for those of the upper neck). I don't buy into the idea of graduating the tension down as you go towards the bass (e.g. in the list below the 3rd course is at 3.4Kg whereas the 7th course is only at 2.6 Kg). The octave strings need to be slacker than the basses by about 0.3 Kg- 0.5 Kg. I also find it useful to pull the bass strings up a bit so that there is a slight angle with the octave strings when you pluck down with the thumb, but that is another issue. Obviously each instrument has its own characteristics (hardness of top, barring, etc) and these tensions can only be a guideline. It is not easy to experiment with just one course at the 'right' tension as the overall bridge tension is going to have any effect on how each course feels and how the instruments reacts, but it can at least give you some idea without going to too much expense. The other thing to take into account is where you play with the right-hand. If it's very close to the bridge then you can get away with less tension. Best Matthew On 13 juil. 2014, at 00:18, David Morales wrote: > Dear Bruno, > You can try the gamut's strings calculator. It suggests the following > setup for liuto attiorbato (aA5Hz): > > Thirteen Course Baroque Lute with Bass Extension > String length for first courses 1 - 7 on fingerboard in cm (Range > 68-82) > String length for courses 8 - 13 on extension (Range 70-130) > f-1 329.63 4Kg > d-2 277.18 3.8Kg A > a-3 207.65 3.4KgA > F-4 164.8 3KgA > D-5 138.59 2.8Kg A > A-6 103.83 2.7KgA > a-6 207.65 2.7KgA > G-7 92.5 2.6KgA > g-7 185 2.6Kg > F-8 82.4 2.6Kg A > f-8 164.8 2.6KgA > E-9 77.78 2.6KgA > e-9 155.56 2.6KgA > D-10 69.3 2.6KgA > d-10 138.59 2.6KgA > C-11 61.47 2.6KgA > c-11 123.47 2.6KgA > B-12 58.2 2.6KgA > b-12 116.54 2.6KgA > A-13 51.91 2.6KgA > a-13 103.83 2.6Kg > > So, as you can see, 2.6Kg is their proper tension for these courses. > Anyway, you can play with the calculator and adjust it to your > preferences. And, of course, you can also use their quick calculator > (for custom hz, string length and tension calculations). > We use it a lot in our > store:A [1]http://www.cuerdaspulsadas.com/calculadoras-de-calibres > Regards > David Morales > > 2014-07-12 23:55 GMT+02:00 Bruno Correia <[2]bruno.l...@gmail.com>: > > A A Could someone tell the avarage tension for the basses and > octaves for a > A A liuto attiorbato (G at 415, 7 x2 = 635 cm, 7 x 2 = 92cm). I > need to > A A order strings and I'm pretty confused to calculate the basses > and their > A A octaves. The programs I've tried are for the long archlute, so > the > A A tension should not be the same, and there are also the octaves. > A A Thanks. > A A -- > A A Bruno Figueiredo > A A A > A A Pesquisador autA'nomo da prA!tica e interpretaAS:A-L-o > A A historicamente informada no alaA-ode e teorba. > A A Doutor em PrA!ticas InterpretativasA pela > A A Universidade Federal do Estado do Rio de Janeiro. > A A -- > To get on or off this list see list information at > [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > De conformidad con lo dispuesto en la Ley OrgA!nica 15/1999 de > ProtecciA^3n de Datos de carA!cter Personal DAVID MORALES DE FRAAS, con > domicilio en Salamanca, C/ Luis Vives, 6 - cuarto, le informa que los > datos de carA!cter personal que facilite forman parte de un fichero, > responsabilidad del mismo, para la gestiA^3n administrativa de los > clientes. En el supuesto de que desee ejercitar los derechos que le > asisten de acceso, rectificaciA^3n, cancelaciA^3n y oposiciA^3n dirija > una comunicaciA^3n por escrito a la direcciA^3n indicada anteriormente > o al correo electrA^3nico [4]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com con la referencia > "ProtecciA^3n de Datos" incluyendo copia de su Documento Nacional de > Identidad o documento identificativo equivalente. La informaciA^3n > contenida en el presente mensaje de correo electrA^3nico es > confidencial y su acceso A-onicamente estA! autorizado al destinatario > original del mismo, quedando prohibidos cualquier comunicaciA^3n, > divulgaciA^3n, o reenvAo, tanto del mensaje como de su contenido. En el > supuesto de que usted no
[LUTE] Re: Liuto attiorbato strings
> > A String length for courses 8 - 13 on extension (Range 70-130) To give one suggested string tension for any string length between 70 and 130cm is a little silly. With the Kuerschner slide rule as a guide: for a string length of 70cm it suggests around 30N for the basses and around 28N for the octave strings. For a string length of 130cm basses around 41N and the octaves around 38N. Bruno's lute with a string length of 92cm would come to around 35N for the basses and 32N for the octaves. These are figures that make sense to me. Of course, YMMV: low tension lovers or high tension lovers, preference for higher tension octave strings, &c. On my website there's an article on the how and why of calculating string tensions. Here's a relevant part without the math: The choice of string tension on a lute is dependend on a number of factors, not least of which is personal preference. And also, different materials require different string tensions, and so do different playing techniques. However, a few general remarks that can serve as a guide can be made. Here follows a list of recommended string tensions for the first string of a lute, in relation to its string length: String length - Tension of first string 85cm - 42N 81cm - 41N 77cm - 40N 74cm - 39N 70cm - 38N 66cm - 37N 62cm - 36N 59cm - 35N 56cm - 34N 52cm - 33N Conventional wisdom has it that the second string should have a tension about 90% of that of the first string. The rest of the strings have a tension again about 90% lower than that of the second string, and octave strings are about 90% lower than that of their fundamentals. But, again, personal preferences might make you decide to change some of these tensions. *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Liuto attiorbato strings
A German, living in Belgium and maried to a Polish wife, was so kind as to correct me on my English, in Dutch.A Perhaps this makes more sense: "Conventional wisdom has it that the second string should have a tension about 90% of that of the first string. The rest of the strings have a tension of about 90% of that of the second string, and octave strings have a tension of about 90% of their fundamentals. But, again, personal preferences might make you decide to change some of these tensions." David - math is not my first language *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** On 13 July 2014 11:57, David van Ooijen <[3]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > A String length for courses 8 - 13 on extension (Range 70-130) To give one suggested string tension for any string length between 70 and 130cm is a little silly. With the Kuerschner slide rule as a guide: for a string length of 70cm it suggests around 30N for the basses and around 28N for the octave strings. For a string length of 130cm basses around 41N and the octaves around 38N. Bruno's lute with a string length of 92cm would come to around 35N for the basses and 32N for the octaves. These are figures that make sense to me. Of course, YMMV: low tension lovers or high tension lovers, preference for higher tension octave strings, &c. On my website there's an article on the how and why of calculating string tensions. Here's a relevant part without the math: The choice of string tension on a lute is dependend on a number of factors, not least of which is personal preference. And also, different materials require different string tensions, and so do different playing techniques. However, a few general remarks that can serve as a guide can be made. Here follows a list of recommended string tensions for the first string of a lute, in relation to its string length: String length - Tension of first string 85cm - 42N 81cm - 41N 77cm - 40N 74cm - 39N 70cm - 38N 66cm - 37N 62cm - 36N 59cm - 35N 56cm - 34N 52cm - 33N Conventional wisdom has it that the second string should have a tension about 90% of that of the first string. The rest of the strings have a tension again about 90% lower than that of the second string, and octave strings are about 90% lower than that of their fundamentals. But, again, personal preferences might make you decide to change some of these tensions. *** David van Ooijen [4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [5]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 3. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 4. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 5. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
