[LUTE] Re: Lute sound, esoteric or worldly?

2008-09-21 Thread vance wood


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Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Lute sound, esoteric or worldly?


That is I believe the key.  It is the old emigration from the Guitar and 
its single string configuration.  Many starting on the Lute actually only 
play one string in a course and may not realize it for years.  It takes a 
modification of technique from that used on the Guitar to play the Lute so 
that it sounds like it is supposed to.
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute sound, esoteric or worldly?



I think it is also about one or two strings. Players who get a big
round sound, which is neither soft nor weed whackery, hit two strings
pretty consistently.
One of the nice things about video is you can see the strings vibrate.

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[LUTE] Re: Lute sound, esoteric or worldly?

2008-09-20 Thread Mathias Rösel
  in a way I have found that the aim to tone production among lutenists
  could perhaps be divided to two extremes: there are those very gentle
  players, who hardly touch their strings, and then there are those, who
  nearly beat the strings.

I'm not a prof player, but I know both approaches. On a day when there's
too much tension in my whole body, there's too much tension in my
fingers, resulting in a somewhat banging and clashing sound. Not nice,
but loud enough. Once I realize what I'm doing, I try to relax by
concentrating on the RH finger tips.

You know, that absolute beginner's exercise. Get a light grip to both
strings of the course with your forefinger. Push the course toward the
soundboard a bit, slightly letting bend the 1st (from the tip) knuckle.
Then let go. Try to connect the parts of that movements into a whole. Do
it once, in one touch.

On a good day, all I have to do is to touch the strings in the described
way, kinda tapping, and the sound is just there with only slightly less
volume than the other way, notwithstanding thumb-in or thumb-out. Mind
you, volume is not the first thing I want to get out of my lute.

Mathias

 Esoteric and worldly players  - do these words
  function in English? Anyhow you can easily categorize also the lute
  heroes this way, not to speak of us ordinals... I - as an ordinal -
  put myself to the latter category: I really try to make the strings
  sound. I am even ready to use tiny violence to the strings to make
  them vibrate, to make the body of the instrument resonate.
 
 
 Arto,
 
 I have no lute heroes.Youtube etc shows well enough  that there are 
 amazing players of plucked instruments from many cultures who can play a 
 million notes a second.
 
 Just as an amateur, and in the way you have set the scene, I'm in the 
 opposite camp to you.
 
 England is a small country with a lot of people in it and, unless you 
 are rich, other people are not far away.
 
 Stuart
 
 
   But I also
  can appreciate the opposite attitude, the soft and gentle, perhaps
  philosophical touch. But to me lute really is of this world,
  means of my intentions, not  so much some living history...
 
  Please, do not ask me to name, to which group I set any of  our lute
  heroes!  :-)
 
  Arto



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[LUTE] Re: Lute sound, esoteric or worldly?

2008-09-19 Thread Stuart Walsh

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Dear lutenists,

in a way I have found that the aim to tone production among lutenists
could perhaps be divided to two extremes: there are those very gentle
players, who hardly touch their strings, and then there are those, who
nearly beat the strings. Esoteric and worldly players  - do these words
function in English? Anyhow you can easily categorize also the lute
heroes this way, not to speak of us ordinals... I - as an ordinal -
put myself to the latter category: I really try to make the strings
sound. I am even ready to use tiny violence to the strings to make
them vibrate, to make the body of the instrument resonate.



Arto,

I have no lute heroes.Youtube etc shows well enough  that there are 
amazing players of plucked instruments from many cultures who can play a 
million notes a second.


Just as an amateur, and in the way you have set the scene, I'm in the 
opposite camp to you.


England is a small country with a lot of people in it and, unless you 
are rich, other people are not far away.


Stuart



 But I also
can appreciate the opposite attitude, the soft and gentle, perhaps
philosophical touch. But to me lute really is of this world,
means of my intentions, not  so much some living history...

Please, do not ask me to name, to which group I set any of  our lute
heroes!  :-)

Arto



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