[LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque
Anthony Holborne- one of the pioneers of the low C in the Elizabethan group; "Image of Melancholy" pavan, a version of the Cradle pavan, a few others. Anything you can manage by Robert Johnson out of Lord Herbert of Cherbury's book (some of the simpler Almans, save his other stuff for later), of course Nicolas Vallet- lots of good stuff, from almost easy to not so easy. For introducing the lute to folks who aren't familiar with any lute at all, just keep it very easy on yourself & at the same time easy on their ears & minds. Complexity kills- lots of nice tunes are in order. You can use the 10 course for some earlier stuff, throw in those low E's & C's at cadences- this was done back in the day anyway, you can see hand written low notes in surviving copies of mid-16th century lute books that have been used to generate modern facsimiles. Dan On 5/22/2015 8:18 AM, Omer Katzir wrote: Guitar - Check Renaissance Lute - Check Baroque - todo Had an amazing recital with Francesca, my very sexy 7 course. Luis Milan, Francesco de Milano, Dalza Nuesidler and more, was a great fun.A Now it is time to put my 10 course into use (until now I just played for myself with her) I have couple of pieces, well, only 3 pieces really (all others are by Ballard) Including Passacallie by Gallot and two preludes by Mertel. So of course I will like your recommendation again, which pieces do you think will be great for first time performing with 10 course, and people can connect to (This specific group of people never heard a lute before, or early music before I came)A So thank you all again! -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [1]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. http://omerkatzir.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque
I have spent the last couple of years exploring 10 course music. There are some really nice pieces from the Rettenwert manuscript available on my Grounds and Divisions web site at http://groundsanddivisions.info/rettenwert.html My other favorite manuscripts are: ML Lute Book - it used to be called the "Sturt" Lute Book and is a great source of info on right hand fingering and ornaments. It is available on Sarge Gerbode's web site at http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_sturt_lute_book/ Dd.4.22 - also English music with lots of ornaments You can get this one from the LSA Microfilm Library Trinity O.16.2 - More English music with some unusual ornament signs. I borrowed a digital version from the LSA Microfilm Library Nancy Guitar - Check Renaissance Lute - Check Baroque - todo Had an amazing recital with Francesca, my very sexy 7 course. Luis Milan, Francesco de Milano, Dalza Nuesidler and more, was a great fun.A Now it is time to put my 10 course into use (until now I just played for myself with her) I have couple of pieces, well, only 3 pieces really (all others are by Ballard) Including Passacallie by Gallot and two preludes by Mertel. So of course I will like your recommendation again, which pieces do you think will be great for first time performing with 10 course, and people can connect to (This specific group of people never heard a lute before, or early music before I came)A So thank you all again! -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [1]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. http://omerkatzir.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Nancy Carlin Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org PO Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA 925 / 686-5800 www.groundsanddivisions.info www.nancycarlinassociates.com
[LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque
Kapsperger and Michelangelo Galilei. Much of the music of both composers is difficult, but there are also many not so tough pieces in there. Both of these guys have a lot of personality and an individual stylistic stamp, even in the easier pieces. Chris [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone At May 22, 2015, 11:22:48 AM, Omer Katzir wrote: Guitar - Check Renaissance Lute - Check Baroque - todo Had an amazing recital with Francesca, my very sexy 7 course. Luis Milan, Francesco de Milano, Dalza Nuesidler and more, was a great fun.A Now it is time to put y 10 course into use (until now I just played for myself with her) I have couple of pieces, well, only 3 pieces really (all others are by Ballard) Including Passacallie by Gallot and two preludes by Mertel. So of course I will like your recommendation again, which pieces do you think will be great for first time performing with 10 course, and people can connect to (This specific group of people never heard a lute before, or early music before I came)A So thank you all again! -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [1][2]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. [3]http://omerkatzir.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. https://yho.com/footer0 2. http://omerkatzir.com/ 3. http://omerkatzir.com/ 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque
OK, I'm so sorry to hear you're leaving like this - and on a public forum, too! Was it something I said? Too many inner voices, maybe? We had such fun together! I'll always be here for you! xoxo, The Renaissance. On May 22, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Omer Katzir wrote: Guitar - Check Renaissance Lute - Check Baroque - todo Had an amazing recital with Francesca, my very sexy 7 course. Luis Milan, Francesco de Milano, Dalza Nuesidler and more, was a great fun.A Now it is time to put my 10 course into use (until now I just played for myself with her) I have couple of pieces, well, only 3 pieces really (all others are by Ballard) Including Passacallie by Gallot and two preludes by Mertel. So of course I will like your recommendation again, which pieces do you think will be great for first time performing with 10 course, and people can connect to (This specific group of people never heard a lute before, or early music before I came)A So thank you all again! -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [1]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. http://omerkatzir.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque
Dear Renaissance, Hello, it's me, The Baroque. Please don't be bitter that I've taken your spot. I will produce great composers, like Monteverdi, Purcell, Vivaldi, Bach and many, many others. Eventually, my spot will be taken over by The Classical Period, which will also produce amazing music and composers. In fact, every age will create great music for those living in the period. Except, of course, for those unfortunate saps living during the saddest of all periods: The Kanye West Age of 2015. Best, Baroque [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone At May 22, 2015, 2:44:40 PM, Sean Smith wrote: OK, I'm so sorry to hear you're leaving like this - and on a public forum, too! Was it something I said? Too many inner voices, maybe? We had such fun together! I'll always be here for you! xoxo, The Renaissance. On May 22, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Omer Katzir wrote: Guitar - Check Renaissance Lute - Check Baroque - todo Had an amazing recital with Francesca, my very sexy 7 course. Luis Milan, Francesco de Milano, Dalza Nuesidler and more, was a great fun.A Now it is time to put my 10 course into use (until now I just played for myself with her) I have couple of pieces, well, only 3 pieces really (all others are by Ballard) Including Passacallie by Gallot and two preludes by Mertel. So of course I will like your recommendation again, which pieces do you think will be great for first time performing with 10 course, and people can connect to (This specific group of people never heard a lute before, or early music before I came)A So thank you all again! -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [1][2]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. [3]http://omerkatzir.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. https://yho.com/footer0 2. http://omerkatzir.com/ 3. http://omerkatzir.com/ 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque
You say all those nice things but I know it's just because you have bigger lutes - made from _my own_ timbers, too. You don't know how that hurts! Hussy! TR On May 22, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote: Dear Renaissance, Hello, it's me, The Baroque. Please don't be bitter that I've taken your spot. I will produce great composers, like Monteverdi, Purcell, Vivaldi, Bach and many, many others. Eventually, my spot will be taken over by The Classical Period, which will also produce amazing music and composers. In fact, every age will create great music for those living in the period. Except, of course, for those unfortunate saps living during the saddest of all periods: The Kanye West Age of 2015. Best, Baroque Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone At May 22, 2015, 2:44:40 PM, Sean Smith wrote: OK, I'm so sorry to hear you're leaving like this - and on a public forum, too! Was it something I said? Too many inner voices, maybe? We had such fun together! I'll always be here for you! xoxo, The Renaissance. On May 22, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Omer Katzir wrote: Guitar - Check Renaissance Lute - Check Baroque - todo Had an amazing recital with Francesca, my very sexy 7 course. Luis Milan, Francesco de Milano, Dalza Nuesidler and more, was a great fun.A Now it is time to put my 10 course into use (until now I just played for myself with her) I have couple of pieces, well, only 3 pieces really (all others are by Ballard) Including Passacallie by Gallot and two preludes by Mertel. So of course I will like your recommendation again, which pieces do you think will be great for first time performing with 10 course, and people can connect to (This specific group of people never heard a lute before, or early music before I came)A So thank you all again! -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [1]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. http://omerkatzir.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque
But on the other hand, we now have Bob Barto dedilloing Luys Milan. There is balance in the Universe. On 5/22/2015 11:41 AM, Sean Smith wrote: OK, I'm so sorry to hear you're leaving like this - and on a public forum, too! Was it something I said? Too many inner voices, maybe? We had such fun together! I'll always be here for you! xoxo, The Renaissance. On May 22, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Omer Katzir wrote: Guitar - Check Renaissance Lute - Check Baroque - todo Had an amazing recital with Francesca, my very sexy 7 course. Luis Milan, Francesco de Milano, Dalza Nuesidler and more, was a great fun.A Now it is time to put my 10 course into use (until now I just played for myself with her) I have couple of pieces, well, only 3 pieces really (all others are by Ballard) Including Passacallie by Gallot and two preludes by Mertel. So of course I will like your recommendation again, which pieces do you think will be great for first time performing with 10 course, and people can connect to (This specific group of people never heard a lute before, or early music before I came)A So thank you all again! -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [1]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. http://omerkatzir.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque
Hi Nancy, Dd.4.22 is available here: http://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-DD-4-00022/1 Also, can you let us know how to get Trinity O.16.2 from the LSA library? I cannot find it in the microfilm catalog. Regards David -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Nancy Carlin Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:21 AM To: Omer Katzir; List LUTELIST Subject: [LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque I have spent the last couple of years exploring 10 course music. There are some really nice pieces from the Rettenwert manuscript available on my Grounds and Divisions web site at http://groundsanddivisions.info/rettenwert.html My other favorite manuscripts are: ML Lute Book - it used to be called the "Sturt" Lute Book and is a great source of info on right hand fingering and ornaments. It is available on Sarge Gerbode's web site at http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_sturt_lut e_book/ Dd.4.22 - also English music with lots of ornaments You can get this one from the LSA Microfilm Library Trinity O.16.2 - More English music with some unusual ornament signs. I borrowed a digital version from the LSA Microfilm Library Nancy > Guitar - Check > Renaissance Lute - Check > Baroque - todo > Had an amazing recital with Francesca, my very sexy 7 course. Luis > Milan, Francesco de Milano, Dalza Nuesidler and more, was a great > fun.A > Now it is time to put my 10 course into use (until now I just played > for myself with her) I have couple of pieces, well, only 3 pieces > really (all others are by Ballard) Including Passacallie by Gallot and > two preludes by Mertel. So of course I will like your recommendation > again, which pieces do you think will be great for first time > performing with 10 course, and people can connect to (This specific > group of people never heard a lute before, or early music before I > came)A > So thank you all again! > -- > Omer Katzir > The Silent Troubadour > [1]http://omerkatzir.com > > -- > > References > > 1. http://omerkatzir.com/ > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- Nancy Carlin Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org PO Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA 925 / 686-5800 www.groundsanddivisions.info www.nancycarlinassociates.com
[LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque
Trinity O.16.2 is in the microfilm library, but not in the catalog yet. It's one of the films that were given to the LSA when musicologist John Ward cleaned house and got rid of things he was not going to use again. There is a list of all those films in an old Quarterly. Nancy Hi Nancy, Dd.4.22 is available here: http://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-DD-4-00022/1 Also, can you let us know how to get Trinity O.16.2 from the LSA library? I cannot find it in the microfilm catalog. Regards David -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Nancy Carlin Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:21 AM To: Omer Katzir; List LUTELIST Subject: [LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque I have spent the last couple of years exploring 10 course music. There are some really nice pieces from the Rettenwert manuscript available on my Grounds and Divisions web site at http://groundsanddivisions.info/rettenwert.html My other favorite manuscripts are: ML Lute Book - it used to be called the "Sturt" Lute Book and is a great source of info on right hand fingering and ornaments. It is available on Sarge Gerbode's web site at http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_sturt_lut e_book/ Dd.4.22 - also English music with lots of ornaments You can get this one from the LSA Microfilm Library Trinity O.16.2 - More English music with some unusual ornament signs. I borrowed a digital version from the LSA Microfilm Library Nancy Guitar - Check Renaissance Lute - Check Baroque - todo Had an amazing recital with Francesca, my very sexy 7 course. Luis Milan, Francesco de Milano, Dalza Nuesidler and more, was a great fun.A Now it is time to put my 10 course into use (until now I just played for myself with her) I have couple of pieces, well, only 3 pieces really (all others are by Ballard) Including Passacallie by Gallot and two preludes by Mertel. So of course I will like your recommendation again, which pieces do you think will be great for first time performing with 10 course, and people can connect to (This specific group of people never heard a lute before, or early music before I came)A So thank you all again! -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [1]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. http://omerkatzir.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Nancy Carlin Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org PO Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA 925 / 686-5800 www.groundsanddivisions.info www.nancycarlinassociates.com -- Nancy Carlin Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org PO Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA 925 / 686-5800 www.groundsanddivisions.info www.nancycarlinassociates.com
[LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque
Hi guys, Took me some time, I have check all of your recommendations and came up with a great program. Now I just need to finish arraging all these papers :-P Thank you all for your help! On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Nancy Carlin <[1]na...@nancycarlinassociates.com> wrote: Trinity O.16.2 is in the microfilm library, but not in the catalog yet. It's one of the films that were given to the LSA when musicologist John Ward cleaned house and got rid of things he was not going to use again. There is a list of all those films in an old Quarterly. Nancy Hi Nancy, Dd.4.22 is available here: [2]http://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-DD-4-00022/1 Also, can you let us know how to get Trinity O.16.2 from the LSA library? I cannot find it in the microfilm catalog. Regards David -Original Message- From: [3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Nancy Carlin Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:21 AM To: Omer Katzir; List LUTELIST Subject: [LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque I have spent the last couple of years exploring 10 course music. There are some really nice pieces from the Rettenwert manuscript available on my Grounds and Divisions web site at [5]http://groundsanddivisions.info/rettenwert.html My other favorite manuscripts are: ML Lute Book - it used to be called the "Sturt" Lute Book and is a great source of info on right hand fingering and ornaments. It is available on Sarge Gerbode's web site at [6]http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_joh n_sturt_lut e_book/ Dd.4.22 - also English music with lots of ornaments You can get this one from the LSA Microfilm Library Trinity O.16.2 - More English music with some unusual ornament signs. I borrowed a digital version from the LSA Microfilm Library Nancy Guitar - Check Renaissance Lute - Check Baroque - todo Had an amazing recital with Francesca, my very sexy 7 course. Luis Milan, Francesco de Milano, Dalza Nuesidler and more, was a great fun.A Now it is time to put my 10 course into use (until now I just played for myself with her) I have couple of pieces, well, only 3 pieces really (all others are by Ballard) Including Passacallie by Gallot and two preludes by Mertel. So of course I will like your recommendation again, which pieces do you think will be great for first time performing with 10 course, and people can connect to (This specific group of people never heard a lute before, or early music before I came)A So thank you all again! -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [1][7]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. [8]http://omerkatzir.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Nancy Carlin Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA [10]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org PO Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA 925 / 686-5800 [11]www.groundsanddivisions.info [12]www.nancycarlinassociates.com -- Nancy Carlin Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA [13]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org PO Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA 925 / 686-5800 [14]www.groundsanddivisions.info [15]www.nancycarlinassociates.com -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [16]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. mailto:na...@nancycarlinassociates.com 2. http://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-DD-4-00022/1 3. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 5. http://groundsanddivisions.info/rettenwert.html 6. http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_sturt_lut 7. http://omerkatzir.com/ 8. http://omerkatzir.com/ 9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 10. http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org/ 11. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 12. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 13. http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org/ 14. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 15. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 16. http://omerkatzir.com/
