[LUTE] Re: PDFprinting problems.

2008-07-01 Thread Jason Yoshida
Charles,
If you really want to be sure of your print, take the files you outputted
from PDF995 and open each page separately in a vector based program like
Adobe Illustrator. Select everything on the page (ctrl-A), go to the "Type"
pulldown and then select "create outlines." This "vectorizes" all type so
you don't have to worry about font and compression discrepancies at your
print company. Then resave each page as a pdf. Use a program like Acrobat
Professional to re-compile all the pages back to one multi-page document and
you are ready to go. Unfortunately you can not open a multiple page document
in Illustrator (maybe the latest version?), you could use Quark. When you
open the pdf in Illustrator you can select which page of the pdf you want to
work on. Having done magazine ads, large cmyk print runs (some of which that
had output nowhere close to what I saw on "the screen") etc, I have found
there are just too many options, and version incompatibilities,
software/font/rip settings to go wrong when you are using specialized
software/fonts and not worth it when you are paying somebody else by the
page for prints. You can re-open the pdf in Illustrator and check to see
that each graphic, letters, etc are vector, multi-curve shapes and not a
font-type input item. This is the "long way." You might be able streamline a
step or two, but you now have a reliable file you can take to any printer,
and get a usable result in rgb or cmyk. You could even create a 50-foot
outdoor banner.
Good luck,
Jason

- Original Message -
From: "Charles Browne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "David Tayler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu"

Sent: 2008-07-01 09:38 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: PDFprinting problems.


> I have no idea what software the printers use suffice to ay they are a
> commercial outfit and certainly the screen output looked completely
normal.
> The PDFs were not compressed but were amalgamated using PDF995 suite.I
could
> understand it better if all the printed output was corrupt but many pages
> were normal, I doubt whether the firm will want to talk to me again!
> CH
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: David Tayler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 July 2008 10:22
> To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: PDFprinting problems.
>
>
> What software?
> Are you using "press" output in the settings?
> Backwards compatibility turned on?
> Compression turned off  for fonts and graphics?
> dt
>
>
> At 12:07 PM 6/30/2008, you wrote:
> >Dear All,
> >I downloaded some PDF files of The Weiss London Ms which I wanted to get
> >printed professionally. I checked each file (68) using both Acrobat and
> >pdf995Edit and gsview. They were fine. I then amalgamated then into four
> >PDFs checked again and sent them by email to the printers. The output was
> >wrong with a number of pages and I can only assume that fonts were being
> >substituted as the tablature lines were correct but the tablature glyphs
> had
> >been replaced by punctuation marks. The printer's computer screen showed
> the
> >files correctly. The manager said that this had never happened before and
> >they print off thousands of PDFs. I cannot explain it . Document info
shows
> >that the Django fonts are embedded. I have printed these files before and
> >were it not for the 'fiddle' of binding them I would do it again. Can
> >anybody ell me what the problem is?
> >Thanks
> >Charles
> >
> >it's a long winding road without a map and compass. {MRY6STVMNzY9Gl7wis}
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
>
>




[LUTE] Re: PDFprinting problems.

2008-07-01 Thread Charles Browne
I have no idea what software the printers use suffice to ay they are a
commercial outfit and certainly the screen output looked completely normal.
The PDFs were not compressed but were amalgamated using PDF995 suite.I could
understand it better if all the printed output was corrupt but many pages
were normal, I doubt whether the firm will want to talk to me again!
CH

-Original Message-
From: David Tayler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 July 2008 10:22
To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: PDFprinting problems.


What software?
Are you using "press" output in the settings?
Backwards compatibility turned on?
Compression turned off  for fonts and graphics?
dt


At 12:07 PM 6/30/2008, you wrote:
>Dear All,
>I downloaded some PDF files of The Weiss London Ms which I wanted to get
>printed professionally. I checked each file (68) using both Acrobat and
>pdf995Edit and gsview. They were fine. I then amalgamated then into four
>PDFs checked again and sent them by email to the printers. The output was
>wrong with a number of pages and I can only assume that fonts were being
>substituted as the tablature lines were correct but the tablature glyphs
had
>been replaced by punctuation marks. The printer's computer screen showed
the
>files correctly. The manager said that this had never happened before and
>they print off thousands of PDFs. I cannot explain it . Document info shows
>that the Django fonts are embedded. I have printed these files before and
>were it not for the 'fiddle' of binding them I would do it again. Can
>anybody ell me what the problem is?
>Thanks
>Charles
>
>it's a long winding road without a map and compass. {MRY6STVMNzY9Gl7wis}
>
>
>
>
>To get on or off this list see list information at
>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html






[LUTE] Re: PDFprinting problems.

2008-07-01 Thread David Tayler
What software?
Are you using "press" output in the settings?
Backwards compatibility turned on?
Compression turned off  for fonts and graphics?
dt


At 12:07 PM 6/30/2008, you wrote:
>Dear All,
>I downloaded some PDF files of The Weiss London Ms which I wanted to get
>printed professionally. I checked each file (68) using both Acrobat and
>pdf995Edit and gsview. They were fine. I then amalgamated then into four
>PDFs checked again and sent them by email to the printers. The output was
>wrong with a number of pages and I can only assume that fonts were being
>substituted as the tablature lines were correct but the tablature glyphs had
>been replaced by punctuation marks. The printer's computer screen showed the
>files correctly. The manager said that this had never happened before and
>they print off thousands of PDFs. I cannot explain it . Document info shows
>that the Django fonts are embedded. I have printed these files before and
>were it not for the 'fiddle' of binding them I would do it again. Can
>anybody ell me what the problem is?
>Thanks
>Charles
>
>it's a long winding road without a map and compass. {MRY6STVMNzY9Gl7wis}
>
>
>
>
>To get on or off this list see list information at
>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html




[LUTE] Re: PDFprinting problems.

2008-06-30 Thread Charles Browne
Dear All,
I downloaded some PDF files of The Weiss London Ms which I wanted to get
printed professionally. I checked each file (68) using both Acrobat and
pdf995Edit and gsview. They were fine. I then amalgamated then into four
PDFs checked again and sent them by email to the printers. The output was
wrong with a number of pages and I can only assume that fonts were being
substituted as the tablature lines were correct but the tablature glyphs had
been replaced by punctuation marks. The printer's computer screen showed the
files correctly. The manager said that this had never happened before and
they print off thousands of PDFs. I cannot explain it . Document info shows
that the Django fonts are embedded. I have printed these files before and
were it not for the 'fiddle' of binding them I would do it again. Can
anybody ell me what the problem is?
Thanks
Charles

it's a long winding road without a map and compass. {MRY6STVMNzY9Gl7wis}




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