[LUTE] Re: Tip - Lute Scribe character / font question
Thank you for the clarification - I understand now. J -- “There is a voice that doesn’t use words. Listen.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, March 5, 2019 3:51 PM, Luke Emmet wrote: > Hi Jurgen > > LuteScribe, and the underlying TAB text format that it builds on are not > exactly WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get), but rather WYSIWYM - > what you see is what you meant. In essence they provide a series of > formatting commands to the underlying TAB program which typesets the > output result. > > There are a number of visual limitations of underlying TAB text format > which LuteScribe seeks to address, namely that a) is rotated and upside > down compared to the actual tabulature b) due to it being a text format > notes on the same course do not always line up visually (e.g. if there > are fingerings, dotted rhythms etc) and c) it uses plain text so you > have to mentally translate common symbols such as the flags. So one of > the main aspects of LuteScribe is that it provides a visual editor that > lets you edit the content and at the same time you can much more easily > play and understand the edited content as a lutenist. When the print > preview output is created, LuteScribe builds the underlying TAB text > format and TAB creates the pretty output. > > In the editor the fonts used by LuteScribe are based - and used with > permission - on a set of fonts created by Steve Horn for Sibelius. When > you view the "print preview" output, the fonts used are those that are > provided by TAB. You can change the fonts of the output in LuteScribe > via the Options or Headers section. > > So there are two sets of fonts being used, one for editing and then > those of TAB. For the PDF output or any printouts you will get the TAB ones. > > Hope this helps to explain what is going on. > > There is a new version of LuteScribe coming out soon that has some more > usability enhancements, and it also supports playback using TAB's midi > output facility. I will make an announcement on the list in the coming days. > > Best Wishes > > - Luke > > On 05-Mar-2019 07:09, Jurgen Frenz wrote: > > > > Oops - I REALLY was ignorant about the image issue. Here is a link to > > google docs, I inserted the screen shots into a text file. > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s4MoYEk4QArbZBENI9AWZ_GJDGKms1VYFFZt_LTsp7E/edit?usp=sharing > > Best > > Jurgen > > > > “There is a voice that doesn’t use words. Listen.” > > Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Tuesday, March 5, 2019 9:47 AM, wayne lutewst...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: > > > > > Hi Lute People and Jurgen - > > > Looks like you don’t know that the lute list does not like pictures, > > > which in this case is a shame. > > > Perhaps you could post them on a web site or google documents. They show > > > characters, > > > especially the letter e, in lute-scribe input format and as output by my > > > “tab” programt. Jurgen says . . . > > > Hello there, > > > I am asking about the "e" in lute scribe - in the editor the character > > > appears as a "normal" minuscule e whereas in print the character has > > > changed to a tilted small capital "E" as documented in the attached > > > screenshots - actually I very much like that capital E but I cannot find > > > it in the font. How does this miracle happen? > > > Thanks for a hint, > > > Jurgen > > > you can email Jurgen at eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com > > > mailto:eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com and you can read about my tab > > > program at https://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/AboutTab.html > > > Wayne > > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > From: Jurgen Frenz eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com > > > > Subject: [LUTE] Lute Scribe character / font question > > > > Date: March 4, 2019 at 9:14:51 PM EST > > > > To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > > > > Reply-To: Jurgen Frenz eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com > > > > ogѕхэ7uЗ§oMЙoVкуmКпо_зЎЕзpЈзЇЕ<ЉzзБЗњej)м > > > > Њьz > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > -- > > -- > > Orlando Lutes > http://www.orlando-lutes.com
[LUTE] Re: Tip - Lute Scribe character / font question
Hi Jurgen LuteScribe, and the underlying TAB text format that it builds on are not exactly WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get), but rather WYSIWYM - what you see is what you meant. In essence they provide a series of formatting commands to the underlying TAB program which typesets the output result. There are a number of visual limitations of underlying TAB text format which LuteScribe seeks to address, namely that a) is rotated and upside down compared to the actual tabulature b) due to it being a text format notes on the same course do not always line up visually (e.g. if there are fingerings, dotted rhythms etc) and c) it uses plain text so you have to mentally translate common symbols such as the flags. So one of the main aspects of LuteScribe is that it provides a visual editor that lets you edit the content and at the same time you can much more easily play and understand the edited content *as a lutenist*. When the print preview output is created, LuteScribe builds the underlying TAB text format and TAB creates the pretty output. In the editor the fonts used by LuteScribe are based - and used with permission - on a set of fonts created by Steve Horn for Sibelius. When you view the "print preview" output, the fonts used are those that are provided by TAB. You can change the fonts of the output in LuteScribe via the Options or Headers section. So there are two sets of fonts being used, one for editing and then those of TAB. For the PDF output or any printouts you will get the TAB ones. Hope this helps to explain what is going on. There is a new version of LuteScribe coming out soon that has some more usability enhancements, and it also supports playback using TAB's midi output facility. I will make an announcement on the list in the coming days. Best Wishes - Luke On 05-Mar-2019 07:09, Jurgen Frenz wrote: Oops - I REALLY was ignorant about the image issue. Here is a link to google docs, I inserted the screen shots into a text file. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s4MoYEk4QArbZBENI9AWZ_GJDGKms1VYFFZt_LTsp7E/edit?usp=sharing Best Jurgen -- “There is a voice that doesn’t use words. Listen.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, March 5, 2019 9:47 AM, wayne lute wrote: Hi Lute People and Jurgen - Looks like you don’t know that the lute list does not like pictures, which in this case is a shame. Perhaps you could post them on a web site or google documents. They show characters, especially the letter e, in lute-scribe input format and as output by my “tab” programt. Jurgen says . . . Hello there, I am asking about the "e" in lute scribe - in the editor the character appears as a "normal" minuscule e whereas in print the character has changed to a tilted small capital "E" as documented in the attached screenshots - actually I very much like that capital E but I cannot find it in the font. How does this miracle happen? Thanks for a hint, Jurgen you can email Jurgen at eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com mailto:eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com and you can read about my tab program at https://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/AboutTab.html Wayne Begin forwarded message: From: Jurgen Frenz eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com Subject: [LUTE] Lute Scribe character / font question Date: March 4, 2019 at 9:14:51 PM EST To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Reply-To: Jurgen Frenz eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com ogѕхэ7uЗ§oMЙoVкуmКпо_зЎЕзpЈзЇЕ<ЉzзБЗњej)м Њьz To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- -- __ Orlando Lutes http://www.orlando-lutes.com
[LUTE] Re: Tip - Lute Scribe character / font question
Oops - I REALLY was ignorant about the image issue. Here is a link to google docs, I inserted the screen shots into a text file. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s4MoYEk4QArbZBENI9AWZ_GJDGKms1VYFFZt_LTsp7E/edit?usp=sharing Best Jurgen -- “There is a voice that doesn’t use words. Listen.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, March 5, 2019 9:47 AM, wayne lute wrote: > Hi Lute People and Jurgen - > > Looks like you don’t know that the lute list does not like pictures, which in > this case is a shame. > Perhaps you could post them on a web site or google documents. They show > characters, > especially the letter e, in lute-scribe input format and as output by my > “tab” programt. Jurgen says . . . > > Hello there, > I am asking about the "e" in lute scribe - in the editor the character > appears as a "normal" minuscule e whereas in print the character has changed > to a tilted small capital "E" as documented in the attached screenshots - > actually I very much like that capital E but I cannot find it in the font. > How does this miracle happen? > > Thanks for a hint, > Jurgen > > you can email Jurgen at eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com > mailto:eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com and you can read about my tab > program at https://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/AboutTab.html > > Wayne > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Jurgen Frenz eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com > > Subject: [LUTE] Lute Scribe character / font question > > Date: March 4, 2019 at 9:14:51 PM EST > > To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > > Reply-To: Jurgen Frenz eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com > > ogѕхэ7uЗ§oMЙoVкуmКпо_зЎЕзpЈзЇЕ<ЉzзБЗњej)м > > Њьz > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > --
