[LUTE] Re: What If A Day lyrics

2015-09-11 Thread howard posner

> On Sep 10, 2015, at 5:43 AM, Rob MacKillop  wrote:
> 
>   Thanks, all. I get the picture, and it's what I was thinking, but it
>   could be clearer!
>   Rob

Of course it could be clearer; it’s poetry.  

"‘the earth is tiny in the heavens, and a man is tiny compared to the earth, so 
get over yourself’  is admirably clear and succinct, but good luck making a 
song out of it.

Howard Posner (waiting to see how many listers 
upload “get over yourself” lute songs on Youtube)



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[LUTE] Re: What If A Day lyrics

2015-09-11 Thread Caroline Usher
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Jim Dunn
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: What If A Day lyrics

I read it as  a ‘the earth is tiny in the heavens, and a man is tiny compared 
to the earth, so get over yourself’ type of statement…

Jim


> On 10 Sep 2015, at 10:28, Rob MacKillop <robmackil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have any idea what the following excerpt from What If A Day Or A 
> Month Or A Year means? It has left me scratching my head...
> 
> "Earthes but a point to the world, and a man Is but a point to the 
> worlds compared centure:
> Shall then a point of a point be so vaine As to triumph in a seely 
> points adventure?"
> 
> Rob
> 
> www.robmackillop.net
> 
> 
> 
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[LUTE] Re: What If A Day lyrics

2015-09-10 Thread Jim Dunn
I read it as  a ‘the earth is tiny in the heavens, and a man is tiny compared 
to the earth, so get over yourself’ type of statement…

Jim


> On 10 Sep 2015, at 10:28, Rob MacKillop  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have any idea what the following excerpt from What If A Day Or A 
> Month Or A Year means? It has left me scratching my head...
> 
> "Earthes but a point to the world, and a man
> Is but a point to the worlds compared centure:
> Shall then a point of a point be so vaine
> As to triumph in a seely points adventure?"
> 
> Rob
> 
> www.robmackillop.net 
> 
> 
> 
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[LUTE] Re: What If A Day lyrics

2015-09-10 Thread Rob MacKillop
   Thanks, all. I get the picture, and it's what I was thinking, but it
   could be clearer!
   Rob

   On 10 September 2015 at 13:15, Ron Andrico <[1]praelu...@hotmail.com>
   wrote:

  The text seems to play upon the correspondence of macrocosm /
  microcosm, a topic much discussed in Elizabethan times.   You could
   wade
  through the rather involved but useful descriptions happily digested
   in
  Tillyard's The Elizabethan World Picture and draw your own
   conclusions.
  Of course, Elizabethan philosophy was a mashup of Classical ideas,
   Old
  Testament gloom and doom, New Testament redemption, and an intricate
  dance around contemporary political current events.
  I think the text rather echoes Montaigne:
  "Who have persuaded [man] that this admirable moving of heavens
   vaults,
  that the eternal light of these lampes so fiercely rowling over his
  head, that the horror-moving and continuall motion of this infinite
  vaste ocean were established, and continue so many ages for his
  commoditie and service? Is it possible to imagine so ridiculous as
   this
  miserable and wretched creature, which is not so much as master of
  himselfe, exposed and subject to offences of all things, and yet
   dareth
  call himself Master and Emperor."
  - Montaigne, Essais, Livre II, Chapitre XII: Apologie de Raimond de
  Sebonde
  But I find the dual meaning of "point" in the poetry an interesting
  conceit; both a location and, as in music, a theme "wrested this way
  and that" in counterpoint.   In the poet's context, the "world"
   seems to
  be the equivalent of the universe.
  RA
  > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 10:28:31 +0100
  > To: [2]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  > From: [3]robmackil...@gmail.com
  > Subject: [LUTE] What If A Day lyrics
  >
  > Does anyone have any idea what the following excerpt from What If
   A
  Day Or A Month Or A Year means? It has left me scratching my head...
  >
  > "Earthes but a point to the world, and a man
  > Is but a point to the worlds compared centure:
  > Shall then a point of a point be so vaine
  > As to triumph in a seely points adventure?"
  >
  > Rob
  >
  > [4]www.robmackillop.net
  >
  >
  >
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[LUTE] Re: What If A Day lyrics

2015-09-10 Thread Mathias.Roesel
   non native speaker here, but I seem to understand it asking the lines
   of Psam 8: What is man, that thou thinkest about him, what is the son
   of man that thou helpest him
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   Does anyone have any idea what the following excerpt from What If A Day
   Or A Month Or A Year means? It has left me scratching my head...
   "Earthes but a point to the world, and a man
   Is but a point to the worlds compared centure:
   Shall then a point of a point be so vaine
   As to triumph in a seely points adventure?"
   Rob
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