Further to all this, but on a slightly different tack: what precisely is it that individuals mean when they advocate some particular form of unequal temperament on the lute? Much is freely bandied with phrases about 1/4 comma, 1/6 comma, 1/8 comma and other unequal temperaments but rarely (indeed never in this latest thread) is it ever spelt out what precise numerical fretting positions are actually employed by the writer (see below for an example in ET of the sort of thing I mean). Recently I enquired, off list to avoid possible embarrassment, of one contributor who seemed very firm in their convictions and asked precisely what fretting pattern they employed and later even sent an example (for ET) of the sort of simple numerical information I was asking about. Here it is (obviously, this theoretical example doesn't take into account the usual refinements necessary to adjust for take-off point at the bridge and the slight effect on pitch of displacement of a string when pressed down to the fingerboard): ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- For example, in ET: fret distance to fret from bridge (to 4 significant figures) 0 (nut) 1.0000 1 0.9439 2 0.8909 3 0.8410 4 0.7938 5 0.7493 6 0.7072 7 0.6675 8 0.6301 9 0.5947 10 0.5614 etc...... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------
It would surely be helpful in understanding an individual's preference for the particular temperament they advocate if the precise fretting positions were stated in any communication. Who knows, it might even lead to some sort of consensus........................ MH On Tuesday, 23 July 2019, 00:15:45 BST, G. C. <kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Rainer, when listening to Tarletone, which came in 4 versions, I have to say, that to my ears, they all sounded virtually the same, at least the 3 MT versions. For some reason, my ears prefered the equal temperament one, although I can't exactly say why. It felt more "crisp" if that says anything. My + 60 year's hearing must probably be somewhat deteriorated, or heavily indoctrinated. Best wishes G. On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:49 AM Rainer <[1][1]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote: Go to [2][2]http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/product_info.php?products_id=80798 8 and press "Related Links". I think there are other pages with vocal music in different tunings, but I cannot remember. Rainer PS We had this discussion not very long ago and apparently nobody has changed his mind :( -- References 1. mailto:[3]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de 2. [4]http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/product_info.php?products_id=807988 To get on or off this list see list information at [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:rads.bera_g...@t-online.de 2. http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/product_info.php?products_id=80798 3. mailto:rads.bera_g...@t-online.de 4. http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/product_info.php?products_id=807988 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html