Re: Goodbye cruel lute

2003-12-14 Thread KennethBeLute
In a message dated 12/14/03 9:18:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I have quicktime .avi files of RF and Pat O'Brien demonstrating thumb
> under RH technique

As was posted recently, there are also some silent video files showing 
showing videos of several professional lute players from recently LSA seminars at 
www.lutesocietyofamerica.org 

Kenneth Be
(I was the camera person!)

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Re: Goodbye cruel lute

2003-12-14 Thread Daniel Shoskes
Already my first attempt to email the files failed due to their large
size. Instead I have posted them on my ftp site:

ftp://ftp.dshoskes.com

ronrighthand.avi and Pat right hand.avi




Re: Goodbye cruel lute

2003-12-14 Thread Daniel Shoskes
My number one suggestion: get a lesson, even if you have to fly halfway
across the country to do so (like I do!) and/or come to the LSA annual
workshop and have a few lessons by different teachers. I struggled with
thumb under based on book tutor descriptions for 2 months and thought I
had it, only to be corrected on a couple of key points within 10 seconds
of my first lesson with Ronn McFarlane. 

I have quicktime .avi files of RF and Pat O'Brien demonstrating thumb
under RH technique at my lessons which I am happy to email anyone who
contacts me directly, but be warned that they are 2.1 and 1.2 MB files
respectively and some ISP's refuse files that big.


>
>But all is not lost, my first efforts at thumb under technique (as 
>described
>by Damiani, in the fine translation by our Doc Rossi) were a disaster,
>although I had thought I was doing it right from the limited
impressions 
>I'd
>gotten here. Then I did find, after a few hours, that there was a
nature 
>to
>it. I can guarantee that soon I'll be HIP (if the "I" stands for
>"informed"), but I have serious doubts if, at my age, I'll make it to 
>HCP
>(with the "C" meaning "competant"). So I'll just be Historically 
>Incompetant
>Player. But it's nice to know the difference.
>
>And the effort is worth it, from the few sounds I've made since the
book
>arrived. I hear the difference. The object of any exercize is to start 
>with
>the basics, then if need be to wander away from them for enjoyment. But
>always regard the basics as the foundation to return to.
>




Goodbye cruel lute

2003-12-14 Thread Jon Murphy
No, not really. But I take the opportunity to apologise to the list for some
of my pontifications with only a general knowledge of music, and my usual
certainty. (My wife says "ask Murphy the time and he'll tell you how to
build a watch"). My copy of Damiani's "Method" arrived in the the mail today
from Ut Orpheus Edizioni. Wow, do I have a lot to learn. That doesn't mean
I'll change my opinions, it just means that I've got a lot of work to do to
make them properly informed.

But all is not lost, my first efforts at thumb under technique (as described
by Damiani, in the fine translation by our Doc Rossi) were a disaster,
although I had thought I was doing it right from the limited impressions I'd
gotten here. Then I did find, after a few hours, that there was a nature to
it. I can guarantee that soon I'll be HIP (if the "I" stands for
"informed"), but I have serious doubts if, at my age, I'll make it to HCP
(with the "C" meaning "competant"). So I'll just be Historically Incompetant
Player. But it's nice to know the difference.

And the effort is worth it, from the few sounds I've made since the book
arrived. I hear the difference. The object of any exercize is to start with
the basics, then if need be to wander away from them for enjoyment. But
always regard the basics as the foundation to return to.

I thank you all for helping me get started, and for putting up with some of
my noise.

And for those still arguing about language and spelling I sign,

Slainte, Ian Dhu