[lxc-users] Howto/Tutorial wanted: Running an application inside a container

2014-05-10 Thread Johannes Kastl
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Hi everyone,

I thought running a single application inside a container was one of
the main advantages of lxc over 'full'virtualization like KVM. But it
seems I fail to find a nice tutorial how to do this. Any hints?

I found some sites, but the pages I found were pretty old (2012?
2011?), so I am not sure if they are still valid.

I got this far with running apache inside the container:
Create a rootfs containing empty directories for proc, sys, ...
Copy over apache's config into the rootfs
Create a config file that says:

> lxc.network.type = veth lxc.network.flags = up lxc.network.link =
> virbr0 lxc.network.hwaddr = 02:00:e4:28:dd:77 lxc.network.name =
> eth0 lxc.rootfs = /some/path/to/Apache_Test4 lxc.utsname =
> Apache_Test4

I can then run
lxc-execute -n Apache_Test4 -f /path/to/the/config -- /usr/sbin/httpd2

And I get:
> lxc-execute: Failed to find an lxc-init lxc-execute: invalid
> sequence number 1. expected 4 lxc-execute: failed to spawn
> 'Apache_Test4' lxc-execute: Device or resource busy - cgroup_rmdir:
> failed to delete /sys/fs/cgroup/hugetlb/lxc/Apache_Test4 
> lxc-execute: Device or resource busy - cgroup_rmdir: failed to
> delete /sys/fs/cgroup/perf_event/lxc/Apache_Test4 lxc-execute:
> Device or resource busy - cgroup_rmdir: failed to delete
> /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio/lxc/Apache_Test4 lxc-execute: Device or
> resource busy - cgroup_rmdir: failed to delete
> /sys/fs/cgroup/net_cls/lxc/Apache_Test4 lxc-execute: Device or
> resource busy - cgroup_rmdir: failed to delete
> /sys/fs/cgroup/freezer/lxc/Apache_Test4 lxc-execute: Device or
> resource busy - cgroup_rmdir: failed to delete
> /sys/fs/cgroup/devices/lxc/Apache_Test4 lxc-execute: Device or
> resource busy - cgroup_rmdir: failed to delete
> /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/lxc/Apache_Test4 lxc-execute: Device or
> resource busy - cgroup_rmdir: failed to delete
> /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct/lxc/Apache_Test4 lxc-execute: Device or
> resource busy - cgroup_rmdir: failed to delete
> /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset/lxc/Apache_Test4

And all the links I found for the "failed ...lxc-init" point me to
installing lxc inside the container. Which is not possible, as it is
no 'complete' OS inside. I also failed to find a file called lxc-init
on my openSUSE host where I installed lxc 1.0.3.

So, what to do? Outdated howtos? Errors on my side (I would not be
surprised)? Did I understand something wrong?

Thanks in advance!

Regards,
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Re: [lxc-users] Howto/Tutorial wanted: Running an application inside a container

2014-05-10 Thread Tamas Papp

On 05/10/2014 08:18 PM, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I thought running a single application inside a container was one of
> the main advantages of lxc over 'full'virtualization like KVM. But it
> seems I fail to find a nice tutorial how to do this. Any hints?

I cannot give you a useful answer to your question, but you might be
interested in docker.

tamas
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Re: [lxc-users] Howto/Tutorial wanted: Running an application inside a container

2014-05-10 Thread Serge Hallyn
Quoting Johannes Kastl (m...@ojkastl.de):
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> Hi everyone,
> 
> I thought running a single application inside a container was one of
> the main advantages of lxc over 'full'virtualization like KVM. But it
> seems I fail to find a nice tutorial how to do this. Any hints?
> 
> I found some sites, but the pages I found were pretty old (2012?
> 2011?), so I am not sure if they are still valid.
> 
> I got this far with running apache inside the container:
> Create a rootfs containing empty directories for proc, sys, ...
> Copy over apache's config into the rootfs
> Create a config file that says:
> 
> > lxc.network.type = veth lxc.network.flags = up lxc.network.link =
> > virbr0 lxc.network.hwaddr = 02:00:e4:28:dd:77 lxc.network.name =
> > eth0 lxc.rootfs = /some/path/to/Apache_Test4 lxc.utsname =
> > Apache_Test4
> 
> I can then run
> lxc-execute -n Apache_Test4 -f /path/to/the/config -- /usr/sbin/httpd2
> 
> And I get:
> > lxc-execute: Failed to find an lxc-init lxc-execute: invalid
> > sequence number 1. expected 4 lxc-execute: failed to spawn
> > 'Apache_Test4' lxc-execute: Device or resource busy - cgroup_rmdir:
> > failed to delete /sys/fs/cgroup/hugetlb/lxc/Apache_Test4 
> > lxc-execute: Device or resource busy - cgroup_rmdir: failed to
> > delete /sys/fs/cgroup/perf_event/lxc/Apache_Test4 lxc-execute:
> > Device or resource busy - cgroup_rmdir: failed to delete
> > /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio/lxc/Apache_Test4 lxc-execute: Device or
> > resource busy - cgroup_rmdir: failed to delete
> > /sys/fs/cgroup/net_cls/lxc/Apache_Test4 lxc-execute: Device or
> > resource busy - cgroup_rmdir: failed to delete
> > /sys/fs/cgroup/freezer/lxc/Apache_Test4 lxc-execute: Device or
> > resource busy - cgroup_rmdir: failed to delete
> > /sys/fs/cgroup/devices/lxc/Apache_Test4 lxc-execute: Device or
> > resource busy - cgroup_rmdir: failed to delete
> > /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/lxc/Apache_Test4 lxc-execute: Device or
> > resource busy - cgroup_rmdir: failed to delete
> > /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct/lxc/Apache_Test4 lxc-execute: Device or
> > resource busy - cgroup_rmdir: failed to delete
> > /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset/lxc/Apache_Test4
> 
> And all the links I found for the "failed ...lxc-init" point me to
> installing lxc inside the container. Which is not possible, as it is
> no 'complete' OS inside. I also failed to find a file called lxc-init
> on my openSUSE host where I installed lxc 1.0.3.

I'm not sure why you're not finding it, but you can just

git clone git://github.com/lxc/lxc
cd lxc
sh autogen.sh
./configure --prefix=/usr
make -j4
sudo cp src/lxc/init.lxc /usr/sbin/

Now I'm not sure what lxc version you're on, but you should be safe if
you just copy /usr/sbin/init.lxc to /sbin/lxc-init and
/usr/lib/lxc/lxc-init.  Check the libraries it linked again (ldd
/usr/sbin/init.lxc) and make sure all the directories will be
bind-mounted from the host into the container.

If it still says it fails to find lxc-init, it could be because of
a missing library, but also try

lxc-start -n container -l trace -o outfile

and look through outfile to see which filenames lxc tried to execute
lxc-init as, then copy init.lxc there.
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Re: [lxc-users] Howto/Tutorial wanted: Running an application inside a container

2014-05-10 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Johannes Kastl  wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
>
> I thought running a single application inside a container was one of
> the main advantages of lxc over 'full'virtualization like KVM. But it

Sort of. You can set it in a way that a container runs (almost)
nothing else, by disabling most background processess. Regardless, its
resource usage will be more efficient.

> seems I fail to find a nice tutorial how to do this. Any hints?

https://www.stgraber.org/2014/02/09/lxc-1-0-gui-in-containers/ is a good example

> I got this far with running apache inside the container:
> Create a rootfs containing empty directories for proc, sys, ...
> Copy over apache's config into the rootfs


... and that is probably your mistake. Am I right in assuming that
your rootfs ONLY contains apache's config, WITHOUT any binary?

The container need to have ALL files/directories needed to run the
application. The easiest way would be to create a container with
working  full OS (e.g. using "lxc-create" with a template), or
(slightly harder) bind-mount some parts of the host (e.g. /usr, /lib)
in the container and copy over other parts (e.g. /etc, /var).

> I can then run
> lxc-execute -n Apache_Test4 -f /path/to/the/config -- /usr/sbin/httpd2

Personally I would NOT use lxc-execute. Had too many problems with it
in the past. Better just use lxc-start and lxc-attach.

>
> And I get:
>> lxc-execute: Failed to find an lxc-init lxc-execute: invalid
>> sequence number 1. expected 4 lxc-execute: failed to spawn

> And all the links I found for the "failed ...lxc-init" point me to
> installing lxc inside the container.

correct.

> Which is not possible, as it is
> no 'complete' OS inside.

Like I mentioned above, it's easiest to just install full OS in the
container, or bind-mount some parts of the host. If you're pressed for
disk space, using something like btrfs/zfs snapshot/clone would help.

This is an example of what happens when you run lxc-execute (in my
case "build" is the container name), where the container is a working
ubuntu rootfs (i.e. created with "lxc-create -t", and starts correctly
when you run "lxc-start") and has lxc package installed

# lxc-execute -n build -- bash
root@build:/# ip ad li
1: lo:  mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
17: eth0:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
state UP qlen 1000
link/ether 00:16:3e:37:ee:23 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet6 fe80::216:3eff:fe37:ee23/64 scope link
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
root@build:/# df -h /
Filesystem   Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
rpool/lxc/build  201G  398M  200G   1% /

As you can see, it sets up the correct rootfs for the container, and
it creates the network interfaces, but it does NOT configure the
interface IP. IP configuration is done as part of ubuntu startup
scripts (init/upstart), and since lxc-execute does not invoke those,
you end up with unconfigured interface.

For the network interface part you can work around it by specifying it
in the container config file, but you might need other things
configured as well (e.g. iptables, dependent services like mysql,
etc), which is why I would recommend lxc-start and lxc-attach over
lxc-execute.

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Re: [lxc-users] Howto/Tutorial wanted: Running an application inside a container

2014-05-10 Thread Johannes Kastl
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On 10.05.2014 20:30 Tamas Papp wrote:

> I cannot give you a useful answer to your question, but you might
> be interested in docker.

Thanks for the tip, I already am playing around with docker on another
machine. I just thought I'd try em both and take what fits my needs
better...

Regards,
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Re: [lxc-users] Howto/Tutorial wanted: Running an application inside a container

2014-05-11 Thread Johannes Kastl
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Hi Fajar,

On 11.05.2014 07:10 Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:
> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Johannes Kastl 
> wrote: 
> https://www.stgraber.org/2014/02/09/lxc-1-0-gui-in-containers/ is a
> good example

Sorry, but that one talks about installing a complete OS in the container:

> lxc-create -t download -n precise-gui -- -d ubuntu -r precise -a
> i386

I might have used the wrong words in my question, I was not talking
about running a complete OS, just (what I believe is called) a
application container (in contrast to a system container).

> ... and that is probably your mistake. Am I right in assuming that 
> your rootfs ONLY contains apache's config, WITHOUT any binary?

Yes.

> The container need to have ALL files/directories needed to run the 
> application.

That might be the case, but I have not got as far as running apache,
at least I thought, because of the lxc init error message...

> The easiest way would be to create a container with working  full
> OS

see above

> Personally I would NOT use lxc-execute. Had too many problems with
> it in the past. Better just use lxc-start and lxc-attach.

Thanks for the tip, I have not read that before.

> Like I mentioned above, it's easiest to just install full OS in
> the container, or bind-mount some parts of the host. If you're
> pressed for disk space, using something like btrfs/zfs
> snapshot/clone would help.

Basically I just wanted to avoid having to run a complete
installation, cos that means e.g. keeping this one up to date as well.
As disk space is not the main reason, having to run a complete OS just
kind of takes away advantages LXC has in contrast to KVM...

But bind-mounting seems like a good way, that way updates on the host
are enough...

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Re: [lxc-users] Howto/Tutorial wanted: Running an application inside a container

2014-05-11 Thread Johannes Kastl
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On 11.05.2014 00:54 Serge Hallyn wrote:

> I'm not sure why you're not finding it, but you can just

> Now I'm not sure what lxc version you're on, but you should be safe
> if you just copy /usr/sbin/init.lxc to /sbin/lxc-init and 
> /usr/lib/lxc/lxc-init.

Just to be clear, I had not copied the init into the containers'
rootfs, as I simply was looking for a file called lxc-init...

I found init.lxc and will copy it, and see if it works...

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Re: [lxc-users] Howto/Tutorial wanted: Running an application inside a container

2014-05-11 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Johannes Kastl  wrote:
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> Hi Fajar,
>
> On 11.05.2014 07:10 Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:
>> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Johannes Kastl 
>> wrote:
>> https://www.stgraber.org/2014/02/09/lxc-1-0-gui-in-containers/ is a
>> good example
>
> Sorry, but that one talks about installing a complete OS in the container:

Correct. But the created container WOULD work to run only a single
application as well with some minor modifications (e.g. specificing
container networking options in the config file).


>> Like I mentioned above, it's easiest to just install full OS in
>> the container, or bind-mount some parts of the host. If you're
>> pressed for disk space, using something like btrfs/zfs
>> snapshot/clone would help.
>
> Basically I just wanted to avoid having to run a complete
> installation, cos that means e.g. keeping this one up to date as well.
> As disk space is not the main reason, having to run a complete OS just
> kind of takes away advantages LXC has in contrast to KVM...
>
> But bind-mounting seems like a good way, that way updates on the host
> are enough...

This example should help you get started. It assumes:
- you're using fully-up-to-date ubuntu trusty
- you have /opt/container/root and /opt/containter/data directories,
which are empty (e.g. freshly created by mkdir)

First, create a new root for the container by using overlay of the host

mount -t overlayfs -o lowerdir=/,upperdir=/opt/container/data
overlayfs /opt/container/root

Next, use this sample container config file to get started (I put this
as /var/lib/lxc/host/config, so the container name will be "host")

###
lxc.include = /usr/share/lxc/config/ubuntu.common.conf
lxc.include = /usr/share/lxc/config/ubuntu.userns.conf
lxc.arch = x86_64
lxc.utsname = container

# use the overlay root
lxc.rootfs = /opt/container/root

# use hosts usr and lib, so updates on the host should propagate to the
lxc.mount.entry = /usr usr none bind,ro
lxc.mount.entry = /lib lib none bind,ro

# use bash as init to prevent running full startup sequence on lxc-start
lxc.mount.entry = /bin/bash sbin/init none bind,ro

lxc.network.type = veth
lxc.network.flags = up
lxc.network.link = lxcbr0
lxc.network.hwaddr = 00:16:3e:ef:b5:6d
lxc.network.veth.pair=v-container-0

#static network setup for veth in lxcbr0
lxc.network.ipv4=10.0.3.11/24
lxc.network.ipv4.gateway=10.0.3.1
###

Last, start an application (in my example, /usr/bin/top, which
requires TERM to be set) like this:

lxc-execute -n host -- env TERM=$TERM sudo -i /usr/bin/top

It should, in most part, do what you want: start a container to run an
application, then stop the container when the application exits.
Again, personally I prefer to simply use full OS in the container
(even with the consequence oh having to update it separately from the
host) combined with lxc-start and lxc-attach.

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Re: [lxc-users] Howto/Tutorial wanted: Running an application inside a container

2014-05-14 Thread Johannes Kastl
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Hello Fajar,

On 12.05.2014 00:27 Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:

> This example should help you get started. It assumes:

Thanks for the nice example, I will give it a try.

Just one thing, you overlayed the hosts / with another directory
(/opt/container/data), which should contain the changes compared to /.

But why do you bind-mount /usr and /lib into the container? This
should be included with the overlayfs, or am I missing something?

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Re: [lxc-users] Howto/Tutorial wanted: Running an application inside a container

2014-05-14 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Johannes Kastl  wrote:

> Just one thing, you overlayed the hosts / with another directory
> (/opt/container/data),


On further consideration, it might be better to set it as
/var/lib/lxc/host/rootfs as the overlay mountpoint (to make it consistent
with other containers) and /var/lib/lxc/host/overlay-data for to store the
changes (so that it's in the same directory). Use whatever is best for you
though.



> which should contain the changes compared to /.
>
> But why do you bind-mount /usr and /lib into the container? This
> should be included with the overlayfs, or am I missing something?
>
>
That design is based on the assumptions that "most updates will replace
current binaries, but you can still use old configuration/state". To be
complete, I probably should've bind-mount read-only /bin and /sbin as well.

Without the bind-mount, the container would be able to write things to it's
own /usr and /lib, thus breaking the link with the host. This behavior is
desired for some directories (e.g. /etc, /var), where you want the
container to have it's own copy. However it is NOT desired if you want
updates on the host to propagate to the container.

So with the binary directories bind-mounted read-only:
- the container will have (mostly) it's own writable root fs
- updates on the CONTAINER (including new package installation) will FAIL
due to read-only bind-mount. This is intended.
- updates to binary directories on the HOST will also be seen by the
CONTAINER. This is intended.

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Re: [lxc-users] Howto/Tutorial wanted: Running an application inside a container

2014-05-14 Thread Johannes Kastl
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On 14.05.14 09:33 Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:

> Without the bind-mount, the container would be able to write things
> to it's own /usr and /lib, thus breaking the link with the host.
> This behavior is

I did not think of that. Thanks for the fast answer.

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Re: [lxc-users] Howto/Tutorial wanted: Running an application inside a container

2014-06-09 Thread frodox




Hello Fajar,

On 12.05.2014 00:27 Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:

> This example should help you get started. It assumes:

Thanks for the nice example, I will give it a try.
 Hello, Johannes.

Did you succeed with it? Especially with running host GUI apps inside a 
container...
I can do nothing with
> Error: cannot open display: :0
and so on..

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Re: [lxc-users] Howto/Tutorial wanted: Running an application inside a container

2014-06-09 Thread Johannes Kastl
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Hello Christian,

On 09.06.14 12:41 frodox wrote:

> Did you succeed with it? Especially with running host GUI apps
> inside a container... I can do nothing with > Error: cannot open
> display: :0 and so on..

Unfortunately, I had to stop the experiments halfway through due to
lack of time...

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