[Lynx-dev] lynx configuration precedence
If a user has a lynx.cfg file in their home directory or in /home/.lynx will lynx automatically use their configuration file rather than the system's /etc/lynx.cfg file? If not, such a modification to lynx in some future version may be worth doing. System administrators could put lynx.cfg in /etc/skel and have that put into new accounts automatically when created that way. -- ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
[Lynx-dev] A note on shellworld.
David, It is my understanding that the shellworld admin has personal reasons for not allowing the creation of new accounts. His father was profoundly ill for some time as an example. The last time I sent a perspective client in their direction, I was told that unless the person is rather self sufficient, they were unlikely to create anything new for them. granted contacting the admin, admin at shellworld dot net, would be far more direct than seeking marketing information on the web. Karen On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, David Woolley wrote: On 17/11/2019 22:04, Tim Chase wrote: However asking the system admin to modify the system-wide lynx.cfg file*will* impact all other Shellworld users. Using any of the methods recommended in this thread are exactly the way to prevent this. I wonder how long shellworld has to live. I completely failed to find any current marketing page for it, and people have said, here, that they have failed to get accounts created. The Wayback Machine suggests that it hasn't been marketed for over ten years, although it does seem to have been intended as a blind users' system, rather than a power users' one. The last page captured that wasn't empty or invalid seems to be October 2007, and it was blank by December that year. I assume they are not taking on new users and will close when the number remaining drops sufficiently. ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?
Hi David-and-All, I just looked-and-there are around 22 user names here on Shellworld, including some with more than 1 account. Certainly an amount of annual income from even that many accounts is nothing to sneeze at. O-and-David, speaking of the Wayback Machine, I was never able to accomplish this in Lynx. I wanted to go back before the New York Times-and-most other NewsPapers added javascript so I couldn't get to their printer friendly pages. But if I tried following a link, it took me to a current page. Thanks so much in advance Chime ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?
On 17/11/2019 22:04, Tim Chase wrote: However asking the system admin to modify the system-wide lynx.cfg file*will* impact all other Shellworld users. Using any of the methods recommended in this thread are exactly the way to prevent this. I wonder how long shellworld has to live. I completely failed to find any current marketing page for it, and people have said, here, that they have failed to get accounts created. The Wayback Machine suggests that it hasn't been marketed for over ten years, although it does seem to have been intended as a blind users' system, rather than a power users' one. The last page captured that wasn't empty or invalid seems to be October 2007, and it was blank by December that year. I assume they are not taking on new users and will close when the number remaining drops sufficiently. ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?
On 2019-11-17 16:37, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Big picture goal for whom? You wanted to set your default start-page to a particular URL without needing to enter it every time: On 2019-11-15 17:52, Karen Lewellen wrote: > The idea is to change this default homepage, not just simply visit > a new site once. On 2019-11-15 19:45, Karen Lewellen wrote: > the goal is a permanent change to the default one. This thread gave you multiple ways to do this: - manually start lynx with the desired homepage URL on the command-line, possibly simplified with an alias/function - create a lynx.cfg file and use "lynx -cfg=$HOME/.lynx.cfg" possibly simplified with an alias/function (which is what I detailed and has the longest-term flexibility and extensibility) - exporting the WWW_HOME either each time your shell starts up or in your shell start-up file On 2019-11-17 16:37, Karen Lewellen wrote: > I am asking the admin here to make the change for me, end of story. You were also clear (and rudely condescending to those trying to help) about not wanting to modify the system lynx.cfg: On 2019-11-16 22:53, Karen Lewellen wrote: > i. do. not. want. to. make. this. change. in lynx.cfg...at all! > How hard is that to understand? > I asked for *command line* not all the ways I might screw up > another person's setup. However asking the system admin to modify the system-wide lynx.cfg file *will* impact all other Shellworld users. Using any of the methods recommended in this thread are exactly the way to prevent this. -tim ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?
Big picture goal for whom?
As it is my goal, and I state otherwise, I am unsure why you choose to
claim this is my goal.
This issue is moot, and I consider the thread to be closed.
I am asking the admin here to make the change for me, end of story.
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, Tim Chase wrote:
The big picture goal is to create a local/user-specific lynx.cfg file
in your home directory. This can be as minimal as that one
"STARTFILE" line produced by the `echo` command, and then start lynx
using that config file.
You can use a text-editor to create/edit the ~/.lynx.cfg file and
append the line
STARTFILE:https://ca.yahoo.com/news
at the bottom. Alternatively you can use "echo" to append the file
(creating it if it doesn't already exist):
$ echo "STARTFILE:https://ca.yahoo.com/news"; >> ~/.lynx.cfg
With that local/user-specific config file available, you can then
start lynx manually using that config file:
$ lynx -cfg=$HOME/.lynx.cfg
but typing that whole thing every time gets tedious. So to avoid
that tedium, you want to let your shell know that when you type
"lynx" (or "ly" or whatever short-hand you want) that you really mean
"every time I type `lynx`, pretend that I added -cfg=$HOME/.lynx.cfg
after it". You can do this with an alias or with a function though
the function is a bit more flexible. This would be created in one of
your shell startup files. However the exact syntax and file-names for
that startup file depend on the shell you're using. That's why I'm
interested in the output of
$ basename $SHELL
to make sure which shell you're running. In all liklihood, it's
"bash" in which case it would also help for you to provide the output
of
$ ls ~/.bash*
If that output includes a .bash_aliases file, that's the best place
to put an alias/function. Otherwise, you can just append it to your
.bashrc (which would most likely be among the output).
However your shell could also be any of a number of common
alternatives like sh, ash, dash, zsh, ksh, csh, tcsh, fish, or yet
others. Each one has its own configuration files and making sure
that the edit takes place in the right one is essential to ensuring
that the alias/function gets created properly.
But then once you have the alias/function in your local start-up
file, every time you type "lynx" (or "ly" or whatever short-hand you
prefer), it will start with your preferred configuration.
-tim
On 2019-11-17 14:10, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Tim,
*should* is an interesting concept. What should be does not
always translate into what is.
For example,
Your echo line below is a fantastic example of the kind of command
line idea I have been seeking the entire time.
However, because there are about ten different lynx.cfg files in
the home directory of my site hosted here on shellworld, running it
did not produce any changes.
I got no errors, meaning likely something was changed, just not
the lynx.cfg file governing my karenlewellen.com workspace hosted
at shellworld.
still, it was at least the sort of solution I desired, a simple
command line that could be run without editing altering or
changing anything else.
As I said to rick, that he has done something himself in no way
translates to the approximately 7 billion others sharing our world.
Karen
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, Tim Chase wrote:
There are system-level config files which you should be able to
read but not modify. There are also user-level config files
which you are expected to be able to read and modify to make your
life easier.
Yes, you can manually specify a config file every time on the
command line, or specify the start-URL on the command-line every
time, or establish environment variables every time you log in,
or define a function/alias everytime you log in.
But the purpose of creating local/user-level config files is for
your own conveneince. So that when you type "lynx" (or "ly" or
whatever short-hand abbreviation you want), it does exactly what
*you* want (within the software's limitations) every time.
As David mentions, if your Shellworld account allows you to modify
system-level config files, that would impact everybody on the
system and be a big security issue. But I suspect that the
administrator left permissions as their defaults and so you can't
change the site-wide settings as a mere user. But you can copy
the lynx.cfg file -- either from your system /etc/lynx.cfg or
/usr/local/etc/lynx.cfg or downloading a copy from the internet
-- to your home directory, modify it to your satisfaction, and
then instruct lynx to use that config file instead. For your
purposes, you might even be able to just use "echo" to put the
one line in a file without any text editor:
$ echo 'STARTFILE:https://example.com' >> ~/.lynx.cfg
if you want to start at example.com
You then modify your *local* (not system-wide) shell configuration
file to create the command you use to override that config file:
$ echo 'lynx() { command lynx -cfg ~/.lynx.cfg "$@" ; }' >>
~/.bashrc
or wh
Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?
The big picture goal is to create a local/user-specific lynx.cfg file
in your home directory. This can be as minimal as that one
"STARTFILE" line produced by the `echo` command, and then start lynx
using that config file.
You can use a text-editor to create/edit the ~/.lynx.cfg file and
append the line
STARTFILE:https://ca.yahoo.com/news
at the bottom. Alternatively you can use "echo" to append the file
(creating it if it doesn't already exist):
$ echo "STARTFILE:https://ca.yahoo.com/news"; >> ~/.lynx.cfg
With that local/user-specific config file available, you can then
start lynx manually using that config file:
$ lynx -cfg=$HOME/.lynx.cfg
but typing that whole thing every time gets tedious. So to avoid
that tedium, you want to let your shell know that when you type
"lynx" (or "ly" or whatever short-hand you want) that you really mean
"every time I type `lynx`, pretend that I added -cfg=$HOME/.lynx.cfg
after it". You can do this with an alias or with a function though
the function is a bit more flexible. This would be created in one of
your shell startup files. However the exact syntax and file-names for
that startup file depend on the shell you're using. That's why I'm
interested in the output of
$ basename $SHELL
to make sure which shell you're running. In all liklihood, it's
"bash" in which case it would also help for you to provide the output
of
$ ls ~/.bash*
If that output includes a .bash_aliases file, that's the best place
to put an alias/function. Otherwise, you can just append it to your
.bashrc (which would most likely be among the output).
However your shell could also be any of a number of common
alternatives like sh, ash, dash, zsh, ksh, csh, tcsh, fish, or yet
others. Each one has its own configuration files and making sure
that the edit takes place in the right one is essential to ensuring
that the alias/function gets created properly.
But then once you have the alias/function in your local start-up
file, every time you type "lynx" (or "ly" or whatever short-hand you
prefer), it will start with your preferred configuration.
-tim
On 2019-11-17 14:10, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Tim,
> *should* is an interesting concept. What should be does not
> always translate into what is.
> For example,
> Your echo line below is a fantastic example of the kind of command
> line idea I have been seeking the entire time.
> However, because there are about ten different lynx.cfg files in
> the home directory of my site hosted here on shellworld, running it
> did not produce any changes.
> I got no errors, meaning likely something was changed, just not
> the lynx.cfg file governing my karenlewellen.com workspace hosted
> at shellworld.
> still, it was at least the sort of solution I desired, a simple
> command line that could be run without editing altering or
> changing anything else.
> As I said to rick, that he has done something himself in no way
> translates to the approximately 7 billion others sharing our world.
> Karen
>
>
> On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, Tim Chase wrote:
>
> > There are system-level config files which you should be able to
> > read but not modify. There are also user-level config files
> > which you are expected to be able to read and modify to make your
> > life easier.
> >
> > Yes, you can manually specify a config file every time on the
> > command line, or specify the start-URL on the command-line every
> > time, or establish environment variables every time you log in,
> > or define a function/alias everytime you log in.
> >
> > But the purpose of creating local/user-level config files is for
> > your own conveneince. So that when you type "lynx" (or "ly" or
> > whatever short-hand abbreviation you want), it does exactly what
> > *you* want (within the software's limitations) every time.
> >
> > As David mentions, if your Shellworld account allows you to modify
> > system-level config files, that would impact everybody on the
> > system and be a big security issue. But I suspect that the
> > administrator left permissions as their defaults and so you can't
> > change the site-wide settings as a mere user. But you can copy
> > the lynx.cfg file -- either from your system /etc/lynx.cfg or
> > /usr/local/etc/lynx.cfg or downloading a copy from the internet
> > -- to your home directory, modify it to your satisfaction, and
> > then instruct lynx to use that config file instead. For your
> > purposes, you might even be able to just use "echo" to put the
> > one line in a file without any text editor:
> >
> > $ echo 'STARTFILE:https://example.com' >> ~/.lynx.cfg
> >
> > if you want to start at example.com
> >
> > You then modify your *local* (not system-wide) shell configuration
> > file to create the command you use to override that config file:
> >
> > $ echo 'lynx() { command lynx -cfg ~/.lynx.cfg "$@" ; }' >>
> > ~/.bashrc
> >
> > or whatever your local shell-configuration file is depending on
> > your shell. Again, would be helpful to kno
Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?
Chime, i do not need to see all of my bookmarks that is not my stated goal whatsoever. On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, Chime Hart wrote: Well Karen, if you have bookmarks enabled, you can just type from a commandline lynx -book You will then see all your bookmarks, which like any other page, you can type a link number or arrow-and-highlight an item. Now probably back on Firday I inquired if there were a way of invoking an actual bookmark from a commandline? As an example if I want to go to bookmark 145, are their ways of doing that? Thanks so much in advance Chime ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?
Well Karen, if you have bookmarks enabled, you can just type from a commandline lynx -book You will then see all your bookmarks, which like any other page, you can type a link number or arrow-and-highlight an item. Now probably back on Firday I inquired if there were a way of invoking an actual bookmark from a commandline? As an example if I want to go to bookmark 145, are their ways of doing that? Thanks so much in advance Chime ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?
My goal is to use ca.yahoo.com/news as my startfile. As I have several hundred bookmarks, how does using the bookmark page produce the result I desire? On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, dan d. wrote: I just rememberd another way using command line only to have an alternative start page. Fromm the lynx hlp page: -book use the bookmark page as the startfile (off) Here from the info lynx file additional info: -book use the bookmark page as the startfile. The default or command line startfile is still set for the Main screen command, and will be used if the bookmark page is unavailable or blank. On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, Karen Lewellen wrote: folks, i. do. not. want. to. make. this. change. in lynx.cfg...at all! How hard is that to understand? I asked for *command line* not all the ways I might screw up another person's setup. On Fri, 15 Nov 2019, Bela Lubkin wrote: Karen Lewellen wrote: since this is not my system, I have no idea where the lynx.cfg file is. While in Lynx, hit 'o' for options. Near the very bottom is a line, View the file lynx.cfg. Following the 'lynx.cfg' link, you see a rendition of the active portions of your lynx.cfg. Near the top of that is a comment: #Your primary configuration /path/to/system/lynx.cfg We can reduce that somewhat. 'LYNXCFG:/' is the URL used in that 'lynx.cfg' link; we can dump that from the shell: $ lynx -dump LYNXCFG:/ | grep primary.config #Your primary configuration [4]/path/to/system/lynx.cfg One way to make use of this: $ cd $HOME $ echo 'INCLUDE:/path/to/system/lynx.cfg' > .lynx_cfg $ echo 'STARTFILE:https://www.xyz.abc' >> .lynx_cfg $ lynx -cfg $HOME/.lynx_cfg ### opens www.xyz.abc This uses lynx.cfg's INCLUDE command to include the system lynx.cfg by reference. That way it will keep up with any changes the system administrator might make (as long as they don't replace the lynx binary with one compiled to look in a different location). Setting STARTFILE *after* the INCLUDE ensures that your setting overrides the system's. Now all you need is one of the various alias techniques mentioned by others... Bela< ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev -- XB ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?
actually, no they do not. I cannot edit the .bash_profile, because the edit command indicates that there is no such file or directory. The echo option, while terrific produced no changes i. e. when I run lynx I am still taken to the uniform location, which now produces an error because google learned of the theoldgnews.com Service shutting it down. As I just told Tim, *should* and reality do not always match. his option would have been amazing, if it actually worked. Frankly I great deal of list traffic would have been avoided if the answer you suggest below, i. e. there is no command line option without creating an alias first had been shared...as I have no interest in creating an alias. On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, dan d. wrote: Multiple ways were offered not involving lynx.cfg. The only strickly command line approach is to include an url after any lynx optionss. If one wants to avoid doing this each time lynx is used, one of the other methodds offered will work. On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, Karen Lewellen wrote: folks, i. do. not. want. to. make. this. change. in lynx.cfg...at all! How hard is that to understand? I asked for *command line* not all the ways I might screw up another person's setup. On Fri, 15 Nov 2019, Bela Lubkin wrote: Karen Lewellen wrote: since this is not my system, I have no idea where the lynx.cfg file is. While in Lynx, hit 'o' for options. Near the very bottom is a line, View the file lynx.cfg. Following the 'lynx.cfg' link, you see a rendition of the active portions of your lynx.cfg. Near the top of that is a comment: #Your primary configuration /path/to/system/lynx.cfg We can reduce that somewhat. 'LYNXCFG:/' is the URL used in that 'lynx.cfg' link; we can dump that from the shell: $ lynx -dump LYNXCFG:/ | grep primary.config #Your primary configuration [4]/path/to/system/lynx.cfg One way to make use of this: $ cd $HOME $ echo 'INCLUDE:/path/to/system/lynx.cfg' > .lynx_cfg $ echo 'STARTFILE:https://www.xyz.abc' >> .lynx_cfg $ lynx -cfg $HOME/.lynx_cfg ### opens www.xyz.abc This uses lynx.cfg's INCLUDE command to include the system lynx.cfg by reference. That way it will keep up with any changes the system administrator might make (as long as they don't replace the lynx binary with one compiled to look in a different location). Setting STARTFILE *after* the INCLUDE ensures that your setting overrides the system's. Now all you need is one of the various alias techniques mentioned by others... Bela< ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev -- XB ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?
Well Karen, I remember the many times I was able to work with folks over the phone, who knew their way around. While I am not archiving these messages, maybe if Rick or another expert could guide you live, I think you would finally have success. While I am not actually volunteering Rick, I know for many years he was ahead of myself in a Unix World. Anyway, I sincerely hope some1 can assist you in real time Chime ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?
Tim,
*should* is an interesting concept. What should be does not always
translate into what is.
For example,
Your echo line below is a fantastic example of the kind of command line
idea I have been seeking the entire time.
However, because there are about ten different lynx.cfg files in the
home directory of my site hosted here on shellworld, running it did not
produce any changes.
I got no errors, meaning likely something was changed, just not the
lynx.cfg file governing my karenlewellen.com workspace hosted at
shellworld.
still, it was at least the sort of solution I desired, a simple command
line that could be run without editing altering or changing anything
else.
As I said to rick, that he has done something himself in no way
translates to the approximately 7 billion others sharing our world.
Karen
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, Tim Chase wrote:
There are system-level config files which you should be able to read
but not modify. There are also user-level config files which you are
expected to be able to read and modify to make your life easier.
Yes, you can manually specify a config file every time on the command
line, or specify the start-URL on the command-line every time, or
establish environment variables every time you log in, or define a
function/alias everytime you log in.
But the purpose of creating local/user-level config files is for your
own conveneince. So that when you type "lynx" (or "ly" or whatever
short-hand abbreviation you want), it does exactly what *you* want
(within the software's limitations) every time.
As David mentions, if your Shellworld account allows you to modify
system-level config files, that would impact everybody on the system
and be a big security issue. But I suspect that the administrator
left permissions as their defaults and so you can't change the
site-wide settings as a mere user. But you can copy the lynx.cfg
file -- either from your system /etc/lynx.cfg or
/usr/local/etc/lynx.cfg or downloading a copy from the internet -- to
your home directory, modify it to your satisfaction, and then instruct
lynx to use that config file instead. For your purposes, you might
even be able to just use "echo" to put the one line in a file without
any text editor:
$ echo 'STARTFILE:https://example.com' >> ~/.lynx.cfg
if you want to start at example.com
You then modify your *local* (not system-wide) shell configuration
file to create the command you use to override that config file:
$ echo 'lynx() { command lynx -cfg ~/.lynx.cfg "$@" ; }' >> ~/.bashrc
or whatever your local shell-configuration file is depending on your
shell. Again, would be helpful to know the output of
$ basename $SHELL
to know which shell you're in.
Once you've configured these two things, invoking lynx should give
you the settings you want every time without needing to re-type them.
The local/user-level configuration files are there specifically to
make each user's life easier, without impacting other users on the
same system.
I'm still hoping I could get a Shellworld account so I can test some
of these things to give you a more targeted reply, but I've not heard
back from the admin on any of the occasions I've tried emailing them.
-tim
On 2019-11-16 22:39, Karen Lewellen wrote:
because this is not my service I wish to tamper with config files
as little as possible.
If there is not a command line only method to accomplish this task,
much like the -useragent one, then never mind.
thanks for all the ideas but again I am not interested in
altering lynx.cfg in any fashion.
Karen
On Fri, 15 Nov 2019, Tim Chase wrote:
Karen,
You can combine Thorsten's advice to use "-cfg=FILENAME" with my
previous shell-alias suggestion, which is what I've done in the
past to specify a local config file. With that in place, you can
set your default home-page in your local lynx config file (say,
~/.lynx.cfg)
echo "STARTFILE:https://example.com"; >> ~/.lynx.cfg
and then have your function/alias specify the config file:
lynx() { command lynx -cfg=$HOME/.lynx.cfg "$@" ; }
I happen to like the TEXTFIELDS_NEED_ACTIVATION:TRUE set in my
.cfg file too, so this is how I get that behavior every time.
-tim
On 2019-11-15 22:56, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Karen Lewellen dixit:
I am seeking a command line method to override the site listed
as the homepage for lynx regularly, i. e. the page that appears
if i just entre lynx.
Then don’t enter just lynx ;-)
Otherwise, you can override the homepage in the lynx.cfg file.
Since you’re on a shellserver you cannot do that system-wide,
but you can copy the system-wide one into your home directory
and use the -cfg=FILENAME option to point to the changed file.
The idea is to change this default homepage, not just simply
visit a new site once.
But the “homepage” is only shown if you don’t tell it a site
to visit when starting.
It’s probably easiest to make an alias, something like this:
echo "alias 'ly=lynx http://the.new.start.site'
Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?
Rick, One thing unique to the human condition is individual skill based on experience. Just because you have done something does not translate that every single child born of woman can do the same. Making such is a matter of opinion with which I disagree having tried at least one suggestion. Trying to save the www_home parameter locked me into something that kept producing a > from which I could not exit. Karen On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, Rick Lewis wrote: Karen, I hope you have saved all of the suggestions. They will allow you to do what you want without affecting anyone else on the system. I've done these things myself. They work, and will achieve what you want. -- Rick -Original Message- From: Lynx-dev [mailto:lynx-dev-bounces+ricklew=shellworld@nongnu.org] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 8:05 PM To: Halaasz Saandor Cc: lynx-dev@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line? do you mind providing the exact command? karen On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, Halaasz Saandor via Lynx-dev wrote: 2019/11/15 18:26 ... Larry Hynes via Lynx-dev: If you can set the WWW_HOME environment variable, lynx will use that as the startfile. I use this method, although I have complete control of my "lynx.cfg". ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?
I just rememberd another way using command line only to have an alternative start page. Fromm the lynx hlp page: -book use the bookmark page as the startfile (off) Here from the info lynx file additional info: -book use the bookmark page as the startfile. The default or command line startfile is still set for the Main screen command, and will be used if the bookmark page is unavailable or blank. On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, Karen Lewellen wrote: > folks, > i. do. not. want. to. make. this. change. in lynx.cfg...at all! > How hard is that to understand? > I asked for *command line* not all the ways I might screw up another > person's setup. > > > > On Fri, 15 Nov 2019, Bela Lubkin wrote: > > > Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > >> since this is not my system, > >> I have no idea where the lynx.cfg file is. > > > > While in Lynx, hit 'o' for options. Near the very bottom is a line, > > > >View the file lynx.cfg. > > > > Following the 'lynx.cfg' link, you see a rendition of the active > > portions of your lynx.cfg. Near the top of that is a comment: > > > >#Your primary configuration /path/to/system/lynx.cfg > > > > > > > > We can reduce that somewhat. 'LYNXCFG:/' is the URL used in that > > 'lynx.cfg' link; we can dump that from the shell: > > > >$ lynx -dump LYNXCFG:/ | grep primary.config > >#Your primary configuration [4]/path/to/system/lynx.cfg > > > > One way to make use of this: > > > >$ cd $HOME > >$ echo 'INCLUDE:/path/to/system/lynx.cfg' > .lynx_cfg > >$ echo 'STARTFILE:https://www.xyz.abc' >> .lynx_cfg > >$ lynx -cfg $HOME/.lynx_cfg ### opens www.xyz.abc > > > > This uses lynx.cfg's INCLUDE command to include the system lynx.cfg by > > reference. That way it will keep up with any changes the system > > administrator might make (as long as they don't replace the lynx binary > > with one compiled to look in a different location). Setting STARTFILE > > *after* the INCLUDE ensures that your setting overrides the system's. > > > > Now all you need is one of the various alias techniques mentioned by > > others... > > > >> Bela< > > > > ___ > > Lynx-dev mailing list > > Lynx-dev@nongnu.org > > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev > > > > ___ > Lynx-dev mailing list > Lynx-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev > -- XB ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?
Multiple ways were offered not involving lynx.cfg. The only strickly command line approach is to include an url after any lynx optionss. If one wants to avoid doing this each time lynx is used, one of the other methodds offered will work. On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, Karen Lewellen wrote: > folks, > i. do. not. want. to. make. this. change. in lynx.cfg...at all! > How hard is that to understand? > I asked for *command line* not all the ways I might screw up another > person's setup. > > > > On Fri, 15 Nov 2019, Bela Lubkin wrote: > > > Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > >> since this is not my system, > >> I have no idea where the lynx.cfg file is. > > > > While in Lynx, hit 'o' for options. Near the very bottom is a line, > > > >View the file lynx.cfg. > > > > Following the 'lynx.cfg' link, you see a rendition of the active > > portions of your lynx.cfg. Near the top of that is a comment: > > > >#Your primary configuration /path/to/system/lynx.cfg > > > > > > > > We can reduce that somewhat. 'LYNXCFG:/' is the URL used in that > > 'lynx.cfg' link; we can dump that from the shell: > > > >$ lynx -dump LYNXCFG:/ | grep primary.config > >#Your primary configuration [4]/path/to/system/lynx.cfg > > > > One way to make use of this: > > > >$ cd $HOME > >$ echo 'INCLUDE:/path/to/system/lynx.cfg' > .lynx_cfg > >$ echo 'STARTFILE:https://www.xyz.abc' >> .lynx_cfg > >$ lynx -cfg $HOME/.lynx_cfg ### opens www.xyz.abc > > > > This uses lynx.cfg's INCLUDE command to include the system lynx.cfg by > > reference. That way it will keep up with any changes the system > > administrator might make (as long as they don't replace the lynx binary > > with one compiled to look in a different location). Setting STARTFILE > > *after* the INCLUDE ensures that your setting overrides the system's. > > > > Now all you need is one of the various alias techniques mentioned by > > others... > > > >> Bela< > > > > ___ > > Lynx-dev mailing list > > Lynx-dev@nongnu.org > > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev > > > > ___ > Lynx-dev mailing list > Lynx-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev > -- XB ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?
There are system-level config files which you should be able to read
but not modify. There are also user-level config files which you are
expected to be able to read and modify to make your life easier.
Yes, you can manually specify a config file every time on the command
line, or specify the start-URL on the command-line every time, or
establish environment variables every time you log in, or define a
function/alias everytime you log in.
But the purpose of creating local/user-level config files is for your
own conveneince. So that when you type "lynx" (or "ly" or whatever
short-hand abbreviation you want), it does exactly what *you* want
(within the software's limitations) every time.
As David mentions, if your Shellworld account allows you to modify
system-level config files, that would impact everybody on the system
and be a big security issue. But I suspect that the administrator
left permissions as their defaults and so you can't change the
site-wide settings as a mere user. But you can copy the lynx.cfg
file -- either from your system /etc/lynx.cfg or
/usr/local/etc/lynx.cfg or downloading a copy from the internet -- to
your home directory, modify it to your satisfaction, and then instruct
lynx to use that config file instead. For your purposes, you might
even be able to just use "echo" to put the one line in a file without
any text editor:
$ echo 'STARTFILE:https://example.com' >> ~/.lynx.cfg
if you want to start at example.com
You then modify your *local* (not system-wide) shell configuration
file to create the command you use to override that config file:
$ echo 'lynx() { command lynx -cfg ~/.lynx.cfg "$@" ; }' >> ~/.bashrc
or whatever your local shell-configuration file is depending on your
shell. Again, would be helpful to know the output of
$ basename $SHELL
to know which shell you're in.
Once you've configured these two things, invoking lynx should give
you the settings you want every time without needing to re-type them.
The local/user-level configuration files are there specifically to
make each user's life easier, without impacting other users on the
same system.
I'm still hoping I could get a Shellworld account so I can test some
of these things to give you a more targeted reply, but I've not heard
back from the admin on any of the occasions I've tried emailing them.
-tim
On 2019-11-16 22:39, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> because this is not my service I wish to tamper with config files
> as little as possible.
> If there is not a command line only method to accomplish this task,
> much like the -useragent one, then never mind.
> thanks for all the ideas but again I am not interested in
> altering lynx.cfg in any fashion.
> Karen
>
>
> On Fri, 15 Nov 2019, Tim Chase wrote:
>
> > Karen,
> >
> > You can combine Thorsten's advice to use "-cfg=FILENAME" with my
> > previous shell-alias suggestion, which is what I've done in the
> > past to specify a local config file. With that in place, you can
> > set your default home-page in your local lynx config file (say,
> > ~/.lynx.cfg)
> >
> > echo "STARTFILE:https://example.com"; >> ~/.lynx.cfg
> >
> > and then have your function/alias specify the config file:
> >
> > lynx() { command lynx -cfg=$HOME/.lynx.cfg "$@" ; }
> >
> > I happen to like the TEXTFIELDS_NEED_ACTIVATION:TRUE set in my
> > .cfg file too, so this is how I get that behavior every time.
> >
> > -tim
> >
> >
> > On 2019-11-15 22:56, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> >> Karen Lewellen dixit:
> >>
> >>> I am seeking a command line method to override the site listed
> >>> as the homepage for lynx regularly, i. e. the page that appears
> >>> if i just entre lynx.
> >>
> >> Then don’t enter just lynx ;-)
> >>
> >> Otherwise, you can override the homepage in the lynx.cfg file.
> >> Since you’re on a shellserver you cannot do that system-wide,
> >> but you can copy the system-wide one into your home directory
> >> and use the -cfg=FILENAME option to point to the changed file.
> >>
> >>> The idea is to change this default homepage, not just simply
> >>> visit a new site once.
> >>
> >> But the “homepage” is only shown if you don’t tell it a site
> >> to visit when starting.
> >>
> >> It’s probably easiest to make an alias, something like this:
> >>
> >> echo "alias 'ly=lynx http://the.new.start.site'" >>~/.bashrc
> >>
> >> Then typing ly will start lynx with the other start page.
> >> Easier than doing the config dance, unless you need that anyway.
> >>
> >> bye,
> >> //mirabilos
> >> --
> >> FWIW, I'm quite impressed with mksh interactively. I thought it
> >> was much *much* more bare bones. But it turns out it beats the
> >> living hell out of ksh93 in that respect. I'd even consider it
> >> for my daily use if I hadn't wasted half my life on my zsh
> >> setup. :-) -- Frank Terbeck in #!/bin/mksh
> >>
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> >> Lynx-dev@nongnu.org
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Re: [Lynx-dev] changing lynx default homepage from the comand line?
On 17/11/2019 03:48, Karen Lewellen wrote: i do not know where the lynx.cfg file is located. I imagine this is wise to prevent accidents with individuals making changes. If the service makes it possible for individuals to change a shared configuration file, they have very severe security issues and you shouldn't be using them. The file should be easy to find, and should be write protected against ordinary users. ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
