Re: [Lynx-dev] Directory mode

2019-01-11 Thread X dej
Oh I found it in what "K" shows when viewing a directory:

c   CREATEcreate a new file or directory

m   MODIFYmodify the name or location of a file or directory

r   REMOVEremove a file or directory

t   TAG_LINK  tag a file or directory for later action

2019-01-11 16:04 UTC+01:00, X dej :
> How do you rename files with lynx ?
>
> "K" shows the following command in my "Current Key Map":
>
> f   DIRED_MENUdisplay a full menu of file operations
>
> But "f" only leads me to a blank page ...
>
> 2019-01-11 15:43 UTC+01:00, Chime Hart :
>> Hi Dan: Also running Speakup here in Linux. If you mean when you type
>> lynx
>> followed by a period? Seems I remember you switch to an advanced
>> user-and-then
>> items just look like regular links, but certainly in the config you want
>> to
>>
>> select directories first. I use this alot, helps sort through larger
>> groups
>> of
>> audio files.
>> Chime
>>
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Re: [Lynx-dev] Directory mode

2019-01-11 Thread X dej
How do you rename files with lynx ?

"K" shows the following command in my "Current Key Map":

f   DIRED_MENUdisplay a full menu of file operations

But "f" only leads me to a blank page ...

2019-01-11 15:43 UTC+01:00, Chime Hart :
> Hi Dan: Also running Speakup here in Linux. If you mean when you type lynx
> followed by a period? Seems I remember you switch to an advanced
> user-and-then
> items just look like regular links, but certainly in the config you want to
>
> select directories first. I use this alot, helps sort through larger groups
> of
> audio files.
> Chime
>
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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx updates

2018-09-20 Thread X dej
2018-09-20 4:43 UTC+02:00, Gabriel Dragomir :
> hello all,

Hello!

> dear friends, is there anybody using lynx anymore  ?

Sure, Gabriel :-)

Have a look at http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/ that hints that
sereval persone use lynx.

> we can promote it as a very hipster style of navigating the web.

It is up to Thomas Dickey to welcome such help.

-- 
This mail was written with browser lynx on web page https://mail.google.com.

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Re: [Lynx-dev] Google news not accessable with lynx

2018-05-23 Thread X dej
I tested a few links, I use the first one:

https://news.google.com/news/feeds?output=rss&q=%ned (very close to
old Google News, limited to language of your IP location; I just
discovered that writing this mail, and I will now switch to it).

http://theoldgnews.com/news/headlines already shown by Karen
(currently US centric, very
close to old Google News, developped by
https://twitter.com/theoldgnews).

https://www.nytimes.com/series/us-morning-briefing (US; number links
in settings of lynx, then select acticles by typing the relevant
numbers);

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/ (UK);

https://statesreport.com/ (US);

https://newstral.com/fr (FR);

https://actu.orange.fr/societe/insolite/ (FR; presse.lemoteur.fr
looked promising in 2012 but is dead as of 2018);

https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news ("balanced" news;
after selecting an article, select last shown link);

http://memeorandum.com/ (politics);

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/ (this is *from* reddit);

https://fr.wikinews.org/wiki/Accueil (too few updates for my taste);

https://techmeme.com/ (technology only);

https://newstral.com/en (various other languages available).

http://www.bing.com/news (too short);

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ (too short).

These links were selected by
https://www.ghacks.net/2017/07/10/google-news-alternatives/ (and its comments)
and the french adaptation
https://actualite.housseniawriting.com/technologie/2017/07/11/alternatives-google-actualites/22655/

2018-05-23 6:30 UTC+02:00, Karen Lewellen :
> Hi everyone,
> I cannot take credit for the below, Chime it might or might not help our
> issue as well.
> My concern in sharing is that if Google finds out they may close this
> door, i. e. not posting  this in the google mailing list.
> I have already noticed a change that I would love telling the person
> behind
> this door about.
> Still this moves things back to the more keyboard google news prior to
> last falls changes,  with only the full real time coverage links taking
> you to a page stating firmly that a computer decides what is news laughs.
> Here is the link,
>
>
> Please share this widely,  if you wish.
>
>
>
> 'Miss the old Google News? This website could be the answer'
>
> https://memeburn.com/2017/08/old-google-news-interface/
>
> The web site:
>
> https://theoldgnews.com/news/headlines?ned=us&hl=en
>
> Karen
>
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Re: [Lynx-dev] Problems accessing wikipedia with lynx 2.8.8

2017-10-27 Thread X dej
Is this problem related (but not quite similar) to the failure to send non
trivial attachments (80kBytes or more) or long mails (15kBytes) with lynx to
gmail and to Zimbra's webmails ?

This has been the case for at least 6 years, and still is a problem
happening today.

Below I forward a private mail discussing the matter.

Sincerely yours,

anonymous lynx lover.

-- Forwarded message --
From: dREPLACEeLETTEReEjBYeLETTEReAatGMA ILcom

Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 11:27:03 +0200
Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx on Gmail and on my webmail
To: Thomas Dickey 

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/2014-05/msg8.html

2014-05-10 13:15 UTC+02:00, Thomas Dickey :
> On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 07:21:25PM +, aw...@lafn.org wrote:
>> > From: dREPLACEeLETTEReEjBYeLETTEReAatGMA ILcom
>> >
>> 
>> >
>> > There seems to be a problem with submission of long text in forms to
>> > https.
>> >
>> > I use Lynx 2.8.8dev.15 (18 Nov 2012) on Gmail (
>> > https://mail.google.com/mail/h/16gqxd6fxycvr/?&v=b&pv=tl&cs=b )
>> >
>> > When sending a big email, the https submission stalls then fails. This
>> > is
>> > reproductible, use a mail text of 200 lines and 15kBytes.
>> >
>> > Am I alone to have that problem ?
>>
>> No, I've definitly encountered it.
>> Fortunately for me, it has been in forwarding email,
>> and almost always, I can trim almost all of the forwarding
>> to just enough to indicate a mailing that the people are
>> top posting in response to, for some context.   :-)

I realized the same thing one week ago. And I decided to bugreport about it.

But now I think the same bug prevents me from sending attachments, so this is
actually problematic to me.

Here are the relevant statusline messages:

40. Alert!: Unable to access document.
39. Can't Access
`https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/1p9asKfr3Ghxn/?&v=b&fv=b&cpt=c&at=AF6VLQ&pv=cv&cs=c&th=145eee'
38. Alert!: Unexpected network read error; connection aborted. [showed
up after a long blocking moment]
37. HTTP request sent; waiting for response.
36. Sending HTTP request.
35. Secure 128-bit TLS1.1 (RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1) HTTP connection
34. Certificate issued by: /C=US/O=Google Inc/CN=Google Internet Authority G2
33. Verified connection to mail.google.com (cert=mail.google.com)
32. Making HTTPS connection to mail.google.com
31. Looking up mail.google.com

> so... is it a new bug (a regression), or something that we've stumbled onto
> after a while?

I thought gmail and my boss's webmail made impossible to me to send
attachments. But I just thinked again about that: I just successfully
sent my first attachment with lynx on a webmail on https, an
attachment of 8885 bytes.

So I think this bug is here since at least three or four years, when
gmail started to use https.

Sorry for the subject line of this thread, broken at "From:".

2017-10-27 14:54 UTC+02:00, Thomas Dickey :
> - Original Message -
> | From: "Dick Wesseling" 
> | To: lynx-dev@nongnu.org
> | Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 9:14:01 PM
> | Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] Problems accessing wikipedia with lynx 2.8.8
> |
> |
> | vse...@iglou.com wrote:
> |
> | > About two weeks ago, lynx 2.8.8 rel 2, running on this Solaris
> | > system,
> | > ceased to be able to access wikipedia, although it had successfully
> | > done
> | > so for many years.
> | >
> | > Is this a known problem?  Any suggestions appreciated.
> |
> | This is a known problem, known to me at least. Wikipedia used to
> | trigger
> | a bug in Lynx, then they apparently changed something which made Lynx
> | work again, but recently it stopped working again.
> |
> | The bug is that if a server sends a large amount of HTTP headers then
> | Lynx does not read all of the data sent by the server and you get a
> | truncated .gz file.
>
>
> |
> | The reason is as follows:
> |
> | - Network data is delivered to Lynx in chunks.
> |
> | - HTLoadHTTP() reads the first chunk and processes the data in that
> |   chunk, in particular the HTTP response line and the Content-Length
> |   header.
> |   At this moment the input stream can be positioned anywhere!
> |
> | - Next HTLoadHTTP() calls HTCopy() to read and process the bulk
> |   of the data. HTCopy() thinks it can limit the amount read to
> |   anchor->content_length, but that is not true because the stream
> |   is not positioned at the start of the content.
> |
> |   However, HTCopy() usually gets away with this because it always
> |   reads in portions of INPUT_BUFFER_SIZE. This mitigates the problem,
> |   but not enough for Wikipedia.
> |
> | The following patch solves the problem with Wikipedia, but it
> | probably
> | breaks other things.
> |
> | --- lynx2.8.9dev.16/WWW/Library/Implementation/HTFormat.c.bak   Sun Jul
> |  2 19:09:45 2017
> | +++ lynx2.8.9dev.16/WWW/Library/Implementation/HTFormat.c   Fri Oct 27
> | 02:26:46 2017
>
> sounds like this:
>
> https://github.com/ThomasDickey/lynx-snapshots/commit/6d7cd77ddec64888f258f03f5b9efc9d57b09a0c#diff-137111264

Re: [Lynx-dev] Is there a swift fix for this problem?

2017-09-26 Thread X dej
Jude, your indication to look for link "Text-only version" in header of
Wikipedia pages cached by Google is wonderful !

A boldface letter x from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratic_programming is
thanks to your tip shown as

  x {\displaystyle \mathbf {x} } \mathbf {x}

instead of[1]

  [MATH: x
 
  {\displaystyle \mathbf {x} }  :MATH] \mathbf {x}

This is significant progress, thanks again. "\mathbf {x}" would be even better,
but I digress...

>  On 9/23/2017 5:28 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>   Meetup  thinks the button  works if the enter key is used.

If Meetup is reluctant to alter they page by adding a "submit" button, they can
also use the following non-javascript html code:

https://www.meetup.com";>




This will make "enter" submit the comment, without adding a submit buttin,
without asking lynx user to manually submit with ":submit".

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[1] since a year ago. My logs says first occurence was cached by google on
september 17th, 2016. Before that date, Wikipedia was hosting images with nice
LaTeX equations in ALT tags, that were shown to me by lynx.

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Re: [Lynx-dev] Is There a way to Bypass Progress Messages?

2017-09-26 Thread X dej
2017-09-24 21:17 UTC+02:00, Thomas Dickey :
> #INFOSECS:1
> #MESSAGESECS:2
> #ALERTSECS:3
> #NO_PAUSE:FALSE

my .lynx.cfg contains:
INFOSECS:0.1
MESSAGESECS:0.1
ALERTSECS:0.1
DELAYSECS:0.1
REPLAYSECS:0.1

And when there is some error, I type "control-H" then "up arrow" then "enter",
which shows last tens of all displayed messages.

If you replace 0.1 by 0.001 or 0, I wonder if the screen reader will still
insist on read them all.

If someone can patch lynx to hide all them, it might be the best solution out
there to Martin's problem.

A different question to Martin McCormick:

When you open your bookmark file (with key "v"), does your screen reader list
aloud all bookmarks, or only the bookmarks on first page of screen ?

If yes, did you find a way to have "v" and the command "a" to use different
files, so that "v" only show a slim list of bookmarks ?

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[Lynx-dev] Wrapping line behavior

2017-01-20 Thread X dej
2017-01-19 21:08 UTC+01:00, Hal.sz S.ndor :
> It ain't write to piggyback on another message for your own new one.

I am open to more explainations of how to do post right :-)

> 2017/01/19 08:33 ... X dej:
>> When using the equal key (=), the URL after "Action:" of this page
>> titled "Information about the current document" can be, when too long
>> to fit, wrapped respecting the margins. This is unfortunate because it
>> is not easy to select that URL with a mouse or with other standard
>> copy-paste behaviors.
>
> "Standard?"

Tmux and Screen have copy-paste included, use the shortcuts '[' and
']' (square brackets).

They are also fooled by these spaces at linewraps.

I just tested that what is printed by command echo
averyvery[...]longline can be mouse selected by one double click,
inside tmux.

> In Lynx I never use the mouse--never need to--one reason why
> I like it.

When your lynx is showing a web page sounding like the included video
is interesting, or a web page malfunctionning because it need
javascript for what you want to do, how do you usually react ?

I assure you that I use numbers to select links[1].

X dej

[1] the small problem is when the first link of the currently shown
page is a text field: I need to get of that text field first before
typing a link number.

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Re: [Lynx-dev] Wrapping line behavior

2017-01-19 Thread X dej
Hi to all,

I am a very long time lynx happy user. I started before 2006.

I would take this occasion to voice a feature request:

When using the equal key (=), the URL after "Action:" of this page
titled "Information about the current document" can be, when too long
to fit, wrapped respecting the margins. This is unfortunate because it
is not easy to select that URL with a mouse or with other standard
copy-paste behaviors.

If the margins were not respected in that URL, i.e. if there was no
space at end and beginning of lines where the URL wraps, it would be a
good enhancement to my personnal experience.

Each time I want to refer the URL to someone, I have to open an editor
to delete the whites spaces contained in the mouse buffer. I do that a
dozen time a day.

It would be very nice from you.

2017-01-19 7:25 UTC+01:00, patak...@users.sourceforge.jp
:
>> For the unconditional wrapping - I suppose it's possible that lynx is
>> confused about the width of the terminal.  If it were only kterm (and
>> not also the Windows port), I'd check if you have disabled the auto-wrap
>> feature (which kterm, being based on xterm, I think would apply).
>
> It doesn't depend on the terminal, I got the same results with kterm, xterm
> and gnome-terminal.
> I think lynx isn't confused about the width of the terminal because long
> line consist of plural words is wrapped as expected.
> The problem occurs with long line consist of single word.
>
>>> By the way, I can see this problem with Windows' binary using PDCurses.
>>> I used following binary, and screen shot is attached.
>>> http://invisible-island.net/datafiles/release/lynx-cs-setup.exe
>>>
>>> With Windows' binary, I found a little bit different result, that is the
>>> long text with link is wrapped only when it is selected.
>>> Viewing WrapLineTest2.html and moving cursor, "some text" is vanished.
>>> This seems to happen only with Windows + PDCurses.
>>
>> I'll check that on my Windows machine (thanks).
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
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Re: [Lynx-dev] Javascript in Lynx?

2016-12-18 Thread X dej
Dear all,

Old version of links browser (links, not lynx) had javascript somewhat working.

links dropped javascript support after version links-2.1pre18.

The links-2.1pre18.tar.bz2 I still have in my home has SHA1sum
118a1b59e084b027318adc895aa69fa778c45f86, and this checksum was posted
back in 2005 on
https://frugalware.org/pipermail/frugalware-darcs/2005-September/004460.html

Good luck.

X

2016-12-15 1:35 UTC+01:00, Jude DaShiell :
> If anybody ever tries this, the edbrowse project already did some work
> they'll not need to duplicate.  What edbrowse parsed out of the
> javascript corpus and enabled support for was all functions in the
> javascript corpus it makes sense for users of character based terminals
> to have available and did not support the graphical terminal specific
> functions.  Have there been updates to javascript since edbrowse did
> this?  I don't know but this may provide a good launch point.
>
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2016, Philip Webb wrote:
>
>> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 16:48:22
>> From: Philip Webb 
>> To: Larry Darryl Lee jr 
>> Cc: lynx-dev listserv 
>> Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] Javascript in Lynx?
>>
>> 161214 Larry Darryl Lee jr wrote:
>>> I'm a longtime user of Lynx and was curious as to whether or not the
>>> developers of Lynx ever considered adding a JavaScript engine to it. I'd
>>> be curious to learn whether or not this was ever considered and what, if
>>> anything, came of those efforts.
>>
>> No, there have never been plans to include JS in Lynx.
>> You should send inquiries re Lynx to  lynx-dev@nongnu.org .
>>
>>
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Re: [Lynx-dev] [lynx.isc.org] You are apparently blocking Tor users (and others), probably damaging reputation

2014-11-24 Thread X dej
A possible workaround would be to setup a .onion mirror serving lynx binaries.
With possible signature, hashes, ... served by lynx.isc.org.

2014-11-22 16:17 UTC+01:00, Thomas Dickey :
> lynx.isc.org blocks IP-addresses which appear in the logs for (a) break-in
> attempts, and (b) attempted DOS.  On rare occasions, a user reports a problem
> with this, and on investigation his/her address is unblocked.
>
> Odds are, a Tor user was being a nuisance (and if they had reputation, it
> would be lessened).

PS: adce4170d57b7c20: write to me, I will forward you a .tbz as mail
attachment. Or write to the owner of lynx.isc.org.

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