Re: docbook: article header alternative

1999-07-06 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes:

  
  JoseIn the process it occured me that I can include the different
  Jose those different include files in the layout directory and then
  Jose simply override the LatexName, that will give the same look and
  Jose feel over all the different layouts. What do you think?
  
  I think it is a good idea. This is alway better than copying stuff.

   I will do it also for linuxdoc layout, to ensure a consistent look.

  Jose   I would like to have a counter extending the concept to those
  Jose cases that ConteType misses. Any suggestion?
  
  That's a bit of work, unfortunately.

   Another possibility is to pass it with LatexParam as
"[%d]sgmlparam".
 This is easy to parse and doesn't require any change to the textclass
code.

  JMarc

  José



Re: path.h

1999-07-06 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| Is path.h in 1.1 low level enough to allow system specific code?
| Since 1.1 uses GNU getopt, I can't use CPP macros
| #define chdir _chdir2
| #define getcwd _getcwd2
| in os2_defines.h any longer.  I'm thinking of moving the stuffs
| to support/filetools.C and path.h
| 
| Regards,
| SMiyata


we could in filetools make a "pseudo" namespace (since the compilers
we use do not always support namespaces):

struct lyx {
  static getcwd(...);
  static chdir(...);
};

and use these in our code:

lyx::getcwd(...);

I think this is the best solution. path.h should be rewritten to use
this and lyx::getcwd should be able to use the functions needed by the
os.

 a pity that structs used as namespaces is closed.

(Note: a real namespace is open you can add to it from different
translation units.)

Lgb



Re: lyx web site

1999-07-06 Thread Juergen Vigna


On 05-Jul-99 Amir Karger wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 05:03:44PM +0200, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote:
 I think we have agreed to use PHP3.
 
 You seem to have this bad habit of not telling people about decisions. :)
 (Since it's not friday.) The last thing I remember was an argument about it;
 I don't remember a proclamation from our fearless leader.
 

Ohh probably we forgot to tell you about all the decicions we made during
the TILDEM :), but there have been just so much we cannot tell them all at
the same time (and probably some of them we just remember very nebulous ;)

Greets Jürgen

-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._

Dr. Jürgen Vigna  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gerbergasse 60Tel:+39-0471-450260
I-39100 Bozen Fax:+39-0471-970042
ITALY Web:http://www.sad.it/~jug

The price of seeking to force our beliefs on others is that someday
they might force their beliefs on us.
-- Mario Cuomo

-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._



Re: lyx web site

1999-07-06 Thread Juergen Vigna


On 05-Jul-99 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
 
 Actaully it is nazgul that has got a new hd, and I need some time to
 set this up. (more things will be upgraded too.)
 Then we will create a cvs repository on nazgul that holds all the www
 pages both for user and devel.
 

So the disk works!?

Jürgen

-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._

Dr. Jürgen Vigna  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gerbergasse 60Tel:+39-0471-450260
I-39100 Bozen Fax:+39-0471-970042
ITALY Web:http://www.sad.it/~jug

"I'm willing to sacrifice anything for this cause, even other people's
lives"

-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._



Re: lyx web site

1999-07-06 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

Juergen Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| So the disk works!?

Yes, it seems to. I am just checking it out.

Good idea for a burnout test?

Lgb



Re: BUG: margin note on wrong side

1999-07-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "Barry" == Barry Kauler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Barry Hi you developer guys, Is this a bug in Lyx or in LaTeX?
Barry Margin notes appear on the left margin for even-numbered pages,
Barry and right margin for odd-numbered pages.  However, not always.
Barry I haven't chased down all conditions under which this happens,
Barry but repeatably I have observed this -- If I have a Section or
Barry Subsection heading at the top of a page, and a margin note
Barry inserted into the text of the following Standard-style
Barry paragraph, the margin note previews on the wrong side.  

All the margin note placement is done by LaTeX itself. All LyX does is
to issue a \marginpar{some text} command at the point where you
inserted your note. I am however surprised by this problem... Do you
have an example file?

JMarc



Re: Printing problem

1999-07-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "Kayvan" == Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Kayvan On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 05:02:52AM -0300, Garst R. Reese
Kayvan wrote:
  Hmmm... No, I don't think that LyX should be responsible for the
 dvips  setup.

 We, gv seems to handle the problem ok.

Kayvan Hmmm... gv is being called with the paper size given to LyX.

Kayvan Maybe dvips should be called with the "-t" option?

Juergen checked in a patch in cvs which does just that.

JMarc



Re: lyx web site

1999-07-06 Thread Amir Karger

On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 12:59:35PM -0600, Alejandro Aguilar Sierra wrote:
  
  | So php doesn't have a way to create html?
  
  I don't know.
 
 The mirroring mechanism would be different. If you download a page with
 wget, you get the html version, not the php3 code. 

Great! So I don't have to write a perl script or anything.

Could someone check out the sunsite site  tell me why php3 isn't loading
the included files, so that I can complete the migration of the other files?

-Amir



Re: lyx web site

1999-07-06 Thread Juergen Vigna


On 06-Jul-99 Amir Karger wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 11:03:03AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
 
 Ohh probably we forgot to tell you about all the decicions we made during
 the TILDEM :), but there have been just so much we cannot tell them all at
 the same time (and probably some of them we just remember very nebulous ;)
 
 Humph. Well, it would be nice if you could mention any that affect things
 other than the kernel stuff, which we wouldn't understand anyway.
 

We could do that (if we could remember clearly about what we did discuss all
the time after 10pm), but it's much more fun to give you the informations
a bit a time so the suspense is a lot greater :)

Greets Jürgen

-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._

Dr. Jürgen Vigna  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gerbergasse 60Tel:+39-0471-450260
I-39100 Bozen Fax:+39-0471-970042
ITALY Web:http://www.sad.it/~jug

"There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their
home."
-- Ken Olson, President of DEC, World Future Society
   Convention, 1977

-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._



Re: LyX Feedback (ISO 8859-1 in LaTeX?)

1999-07-06 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

 Seak  For the Linux version, after Options - Reconfigure, it
 Seak still gives \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}

 This is fine. My problem was rather with the other case (with an empty
 value).

 I'm sorry but I've no idea why there's an empty value.  Actually, the
OSF version of LyX was compiled by me.  Maybe the LaTeX system isn't
complete.

 Seak




Re: BUG: margin note on wrong side

1999-07-06 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

|  "Barry" == Barry Kauler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| 
| Barry Hi you developer guys, Is this a bug in Lyx or in LaTeX?
| Barry Margin notes appear on the left margin for even-numbered pages,
| Barry and right margin for odd-numbered pages.  However, not always.
| Barry I haven't chased down all conditions under which this happens,
| Barry but repeatably I have observed this -- If I have a Section or
| Barry Subsection heading at the top of a page, and a margin note
| Barry inserted into the text of the following Standard-style
| Barry paragraph, the margin note previews on the wrong side.  
| 
| All the margin note placement is done by LaTeX itself. All LyX does is
| to issue a \marginpar{some text} command at the point where you
| inserted your note. I am however surprised by this problem... Do you
| have an example file?

Or are you using a duplex printer on a document setup to be onesided?

Lgb



AGU format support?

1999-07-06 Thread Liisa Vermeer

LyX friends,

I have been corresponding with someone at the American Geophysical Union
about their LaTeX support. You may know that AGU publishes a number of
journals, the best known of which is no doubt JGR, the Journal of
Geophysical Research.

AGU makes available a number of style files (yes, 2.09) to allow the
preparation of manuscripts. Unfortunately, no support for BibTeX. Also,
no support (really) for LaTeX2e. The inimitable Patrick Daly has thus
given unto us a package called AGUPLUS, which fixes both problems, and
then some.

Now my AGU correspondent (who told me about AGUPLUS, btw) reported that
AGU is preparing to launch a new package for LaTeX2e soon. This would be
an opportunity for us to get LyX in the door with a MAJOR "customer".

I was told that AGU has had problems with their contributors; many
dislike to use LaTeX because the mark-up is experienced as difficult
(which it undoubtedly is, compared to WYSIWYG). Yet, the AGU technical
people are committed to LaTeX also because it makes it easy to produce
abstracts in (decent) HTML (or even whole journals? I'm not sure.) LyX
would be just the thing for them.

I studied the AGU LaTeX format, and noticed immediately what I think
will be the biggest problem (there are a number of smaller ones as
well). The floats provided are

  figure figure*
  table  table*
  plate  plate*
  planotable planotable*

See the problem? Floats are hardwired in LyX currently (1.0). Of course
this could be worked around with ERT, but... what about making floats
user-definable like they are in LaTeX? How hard?

What are the plans for the new LyX version? This is an opportunity
really (how many of you are publishing in AGU journals btw?). What do
you think?

Enjoy,
Martin Vermeer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: BUG:Portuguese as language

1999-07-06 Thread Helio Nunes (dedalus)

Oliver Sinnen wrote:
 
 Hi !
 

Hi! This thread is past?

 The proper spelling in portuguese is "portugues" (with the second u;
 actually, there is an accent on the last e). Since the ispell files are

True: português...

 portuguese should be written "portuguese". (e.g. in the popup menu you
 find german not deutsch).

Yes. This is the best way...

 Surely, links in the ispell directory is another, probably better, workaround.
 
Is the better workaround because we have 2 or more portuguese
dictionaries (for Portugal, for Brasil) and 2 or more portuguese LANG
env pt and pt_br...

-- 

-
[], Helio Nunes (Dedalus)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
UIN 5757498



Re: docbook: article header alternative

1999-07-06 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes:

 > 
 > Jose>In the process it occured me that I can include the different
 > Jose> those different include files in the layout directory and then
 > Jose> simply override the LatexName, that will give the same look and
 > Jose> feel over all the different layouts. What do you think?
 > 
 > I think it is a good idea. This is alway better than copying stuff.

   I will do it also for linuxdoc layout, to ensure a consistent look.

 > Jose>   I would like to have a counter extending the concept to those
 > Jose> cases that ConteType misses. Any suggestion?
 > 
 > That's a bit of work, unfortunately.

   Another possibility is to pass it with LatexParam as
"[%d]sgmlparam".
 This is easy to parse and doesn't require any change to the textclass
code.

 > JMarc

  José



Re: path.h

1999-07-06 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| Is path.h in 1.1 low level enough to allow system specific code?
| Since 1.1 uses GNU getopt, I can't use CPP macros
| #define chdir _chdir2
| #define getcwd _getcwd2
| in os2_defines.h any longer.  I'm thinking of moving the stuffs
| to support/filetools.C and path.h
| 
| Regards,
| SMiyata


we could in filetools make a "pseudo" namespace (since the compilers
we use do not always support namespaces):

struct lyx {
  static getcwd(...);
  static chdir(...);
};

and use these in our code:

lyx::getcwd(...);

I think this is the best solution. path.h should be rewritten to use
this and lyx::getcwd should be able to use the functions needed by the
os.

 a pity that structs used as namespaces is closed.

(Note: a real namespace is open you can add to it from different
translation units.)

Lgb



Re: lyx web site

1999-07-06 Thread Juergen Vigna


On 05-Jul-99 Amir Karger wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 05:03:44PM +0200, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote:
>> I think we have agreed to use PHP3.
> 
> You seem to have this bad habit of not telling people about decisions. :)
> (Since it's not friday.) The last thing I remember was an argument about it;
> I don't remember a proclamation from our fearless leader.
> 

Ohh probably we forgot to tell you about all the decicions we made during
the TILDEM :), but there have been just so much we cannot tell them all at
the same time (and probably some of them we just remember very nebulous ;)

Greets Jürgen

-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._

Dr. Jürgen Vigna  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gerbergasse 60Tel:+39-0471-450260
I-39100 Bozen Fax:+39-0471-970042
ITALY Web:http://www.sad.it/~jug

The price of seeking to force our beliefs on others is that someday
they might force their beliefs on us.
-- Mario Cuomo

-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._



Re: lyx web site

1999-07-06 Thread Juergen Vigna


On 05-Jul-99 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> 
> Actaully it is nazgul that has got a new hd, and I need some time to
> set this up. (more things will be upgraded too.)
> Then we will create a cvs repository on nazgul that holds all the www
> pages both for user and devel.
> 

So the disk works!?

Jürgen

-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._

Dr. Jürgen Vigna  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gerbergasse 60Tel:+39-0471-450260
I-39100 Bozen Fax:+39-0471-970042
ITALY Web:http://www.sad.it/~jug

"I'm willing to sacrifice anything for this cause, even other people's
lives"

-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._



Re: lyx web site

1999-07-06 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

| So the disk works!?

Yes, it seems to. I am just checking it out.

Good idea for a burnout test?

Lgb



Re: BUG: margin note on wrong side

1999-07-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Barry" == Barry Kauler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Barry> Hi you developer guys, Is this a bug in Lyx or in LaTeX?
Barry> Margin notes appear on the left margin for even-numbered pages,
Barry> and right margin for odd-numbered pages.  However, not always.
Barry> I haven't chased down all conditions under which this happens,
Barry> but repeatably I have observed this -- If I have a Section or
Barry> Subsection heading at the top of a page, and a margin note
Barry> inserted into the text of the following Standard-style
Barry> paragraph, the margin note previews on the wrong side.  

All the margin note placement is done by LaTeX itself. All LyX does is
to issue a \marginpar{some text} command at the point where you
inserted your note. I am however surprised by this problem... Do you
have an example file?

JMarc



Re: Printing problem

1999-07-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Kayvan" == Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Kayvan> On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 05:02:52AM -0300, Garst R. Reese
Kayvan> wrote:
>> > Hmmm... No, I don't think that LyX should be responsible for the
>> dvips > setup.

>> We, gv seems to handle the problem ok.

Kayvan> Hmmm... gv is being called with the paper size given to LyX.

Kayvan> Maybe dvips should be called with the "-t" option?

Juergen checked in a patch in cvs which does just that.

JMarc



Re: lyx web site

1999-07-06 Thread Amir Karger

On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 12:59:35PM -0600, Alejandro Aguilar Sierra wrote:
>  
> > | So php doesn't have a way to create html?
> > 
> > I don't know.
> 
> The mirroring mechanism would be different. If you download a page with
> wget, you get the html version, not the php3 code. 

Great! So I don't have to write a perl script or anything.

Could someone check out the sunsite site & tell me why php3 isn't loading
the included files, so that I can complete the migration of the other files?

-Amir



Re: lyx web site

1999-07-06 Thread Juergen Vigna


On 06-Jul-99 Amir Karger wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 11:03:03AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
>> 
>> Ohh probably we forgot to tell you about all the decicions we made during
>> the TILDEM :), but there have been just so much we cannot tell them all at
>> the same time (and probably some of them we just remember very nebulous ;)
> 
> Humph. Well, it would be nice if you could mention any that affect things
> other than the kernel stuff, which we wouldn't understand anyway.
> 

We could do that (if we could remember clearly about what we did discuss all
the time after 10pm), but it's much more fun to give you the informations
a bit a time so the suspense is a lot greater :)

Greets Jürgen

-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._

Dr. Jürgen Vigna  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gerbergasse 60Tel:+39-0471-450260
I-39100 Bozen Fax:+39-0471-970042
ITALY Web:http://www.sad.it/~jug

"There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their
home."
-- Ken Olson, President of DEC, World Future Society
   Convention, 1977

-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._



Re: LyX Feedback (ISO 8859-1 in LaTeX?)

1999-07-06 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

> Seak>  For the Linux version, after Options -> Reconfigure, it
> Seak> still gives \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
>
> This is fine. My problem was rather with the other case (with an empty
> value).

 I'm sorry but I've no idea why there's an empty value.  Actually, the
OSF version of LyX was compiled by me.  Maybe the LaTeX system isn't
complete.

 Seak




Re: BUG: margin note on wrong side

1999-07-06 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

| > "Barry" == Barry Kauler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| 
| Barry> Hi you developer guys, Is this a bug in Lyx or in LaTeX?
| Barry> Margin notes appear on the left margin for even-numbered pages,
| Barry> and right margin for odd-numbered pages.  However, not always.
| Barry> I haven't chased down all conditions under which this happens,
| Barry> but repeatably I have observed this -- If I have a Section or
| Barry> Subsection heading at the top of a page, and a margin note
| Barry> inserted into the text of the following Standard-style
| Barry> paragraph, the margin note previews on the wrong side.  
| 
| All the margin note placement is done by LaTeX itself. All LyX does is
| to issue a \marginpar{some text} command at the point where you
| inserted your note. I am however surprised by this problem... Do you
| have an example file?

Or are you using a duplex printer on a document setup to be onesided?

Lgb



AGU format support?

1999-07-06 Thread Liisa Vermeer

LyX friends,

I have been corresponding with someone at the American Geophysical Union
about their LaTeX support. You may know that AGU publishes a number of
journals, the best known of which is no doubt JGR, the Journal of
Geophysical Research.

AGU makes available a number of style files (yes, 2.09) to allow the
preparation of manuscripts. Unfortunately, no support for BibTeX. Also,
no support (really) for LaTeX2e. The inimitable Patrick Daly has thus
given unto us a package called AGUPLUS, which fixes both problems, and
then some.

Now my AGU correspondent (who told me about AGUPLUS, btw) reported that
AGU is preparing to launch a new package for LaTeX2e soon. This would be
an opportunity for us to get LyX in the door with a MAJOR "customer".

I was told that AGU has had problems with their contributors; many
dislike to use LaTeX because the mark-up is experienced as difficult
(which it undoubtedly is, compared to WYSIWYG). Yet, the AGU technical
people are committed to LaTeX also because it makes it easy to produce
abstracts in (decent) HTML (or even whole journals? I'm not sure.) LyX
would be just the thing for them.

I studied the AGU LaTeX format, and noticed immediately what I think
will be the biggest problem (there are a number of smaller ones as
well). The floats provided are

  figure figure*
  table  table*
  plate  plate*
  planotable planotable*

See the problem? Floats are hardwired in LyX currently (1.0). Of course
this could be worked around with ERT, but... what about making floats
user-definable like they are in LaTeX? How hard?

What are the plans for the new LyX version? This is an opportunity
really (how many of you are publishing in AGU journals btw?). What do
you think?

Enjoy,
Martin Vermeer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: BUG:Portuguese as language

1999-07-06 Thread Helio Nunes (dedalus)

Oliver Sinnen wrote:
> 
> Hi !
> 

Hi! This thread is past?

> The proper spelling in portuguese is "portugues" (with the second u;
> actually, there is an accent on the last e). Since the ispell files are

True: português...

> portuguese should be written "portuguese". (e.g. in the popup menu you
> find german not deutsch).

Yes. This is the best way...

> Surely, links in the ispell directory is another, probably better, workaround.
 
Is the better workaround because we have 2 or more portuguese
dictionaries (for Portugal, for Brasil) and 2 or more portuguese LANG
env pt and pt_br...

-- 

-
[], Helio Nunes (Dedalus)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
UIN 5757498