Re: Re: Plans for python support on lyx-2.2

[Benjamin Piwowarski]

On 1 May 2014 at 23:06:16 , José Matos (jama...@lyx.org) wrote:
On Thursday 24 April 2014 17:13:43 Josh Hieronymus wrote:  
 The question:... Was there a reason that we were using  
 binary mode in the first place?  
  
 Josh  

IIRC it was to deal with the end line char in windows, but this was to support 
python 2.2 and my memory is fuzzy about further details. This was before the 
universal end line support in python.  

OK, so going to text mode should not be a problem anymore.

Benjamin 

Re: Is it possible to get the old behavior of Flex insets (before the fix for #8442)?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

30/04/2014 21:33, Jürgen Spitzmüller:

Yes, that's right. I have to say that I am also mildly annoyed by this,
even though I committed this change. I find myself constantly closing
conglomerate-style insets immediately after inserting. Since it's a
matter of taste, we probably need to provide a choice.


Don't we still have some kind of auto-close mechanism from which we can 
have the code caption shown only when editing the inset?

Re: Is it possible to get the old behavior of Flex insets (before the fix for #8442)?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2014-05-02 10:31 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

 Don't we still have some kind of auto-close mechanism from which we can
 have the code caption shown only when editing the inset?


You mean the mechanism that is used, f.ex., by the spellchecker?

Jürgen

Re: Is it possible to get the old behavior of Flex insets (before the fix for #8442)?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

02/05/2014 10:59, Jürgen Spitzmüller:

2014-05-02 10:31 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

Don't we still have some kind of auto-close mechanism from which we
can have the code caption shown only when editing the inset?


You mean the mechanism that is used, f.ex., by the spellchecker?


Yes. When the inset is closed, entering it could cause to open it 
temporarily. With this, the inset could be inserted as closed by default.


JMarc

Re: Is it possible to get the old behavior of Flex insets (before the fix for #8442)?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2014-05-02 11:27 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

 Yes. When the inset is closed, entering it could cause to open it
 temporarily. With this, the inset could be inserted as closed by default.


This would be a good default for Flex insets, indeed.

Jürgen




 JMarc

Re: Call for testers: the features/str-metrics branch

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

30/04/2014 22:17, Scott Kostyshak:

It works well for me and the only (very minor) thing I've noticed so far is:
When I select an ERT box, the text inside seems to jump a little bit.
Here is a screencast of master built at 0c0e16c6:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/co98z262kwi0l6r/master-2014-04-22.ogv
(you should see no jumping)
And here is the screencast doing the same thing but with the str-metrics branch:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i9x9ab060p1rry5/str-metrics.ogv
(here is where I see jumping).


I did not manage to reproduce. Do you have a file to try is out?

JMarc

Re: new list: lyx-es

[Alex Vergara Gil]

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org

To: LyX Developers lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:53 AM
Subject: new list: lyx-es



Pavel and Máté have helped me to set up lyx-es, a mailing list for
Spanish speakers. It is our third non-English mailing list, in
addition to lyx-fr and lyx-jp.

Anything else?

Scott


Hi devels

When I try to subscribe to this spanish speakers list I get the following 
error



Hi. This is the qmail-send program at thales.memphis.edu.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

lyx...@lists.lyx.org:
ezmlm-reject: fatal: Sorry, I don't accept commands in the subject line. 
Please send a message to the -help address shown in the the 
``Mailing-List:'' header for command info (#5.7.0)



What am I doing wrong??

Regards

Alex 

Re: Call for testers: the features/str-metrics branch

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:
 30/04/2014 22:17, Scott Kostyshak:

 It works well for me and the only (very minor) thing I've noticed so far
 is:
 When I select an ERT box, the text inside seems to jump a little bit.
 Here is a screencast of master built at 0c0e16c6:
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/co98z262kwi0l6r/master-2014-04-22.ogv
 (you should see no jumping)
 And here is the screencast doing the same thing but with the str-metrics
 branch:
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/i9x9ab060p1rry5/str-metrics.ogv
 (here is where I see jumping).


 I did not manage to reproduce. Do you have a file to try is out?

I will send you the file when I get home. I will also check that the
build logs are the same. I took care to use the latest commit from
master that you merged in for the comparison and the same build
script, but maybe somehow a CMake flag was added/subtracted.

Scott

Re: Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[Neal Becker]

José Matos wrote:

 On Monday 28 April 2014 08:13:49 Neal Becker wrote:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584063
 
 Seems fedora is not shipping biber, it is still an open bug
 
 Why don't you install the package from the copr repository pointed there?
 
 With some feedback it will possible to place this package in Fedora.
 
 FWIW I had/have a copr repository for lyx-2.1 before it was released.
 
 Regards,
Oh thanks!  I didn't know about biber in copr.

Re: new list: lyx-es

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu wrote:

 When I try to subscribe to this spanish speakers list I get the following
 error

 
 Hi. This is the qmail-send program at thales.memphis.edu.
 I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
 This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

 lyx...@lists.lyx.org:

Hi Alex,

Did you sent the email to lyx-es-subscr...@lists.lyx.org? If not, try
that. lyx...@lists.lyx.org is for when you want to send an email to
the list. The response you received was saying that you need to send a
non-empty email if you are sending to the list.

Let me know if that works or not.

Scott

Re: new list: lyx-es

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:

 I can add it easily to the mailing list info on the website:
 http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists
 For the other languages of the website, do I email the translators
 and/or do I add it in English and they will see it?

 They will see it.

Do you mean if I only change the English page they will see it? Or if
I change their pages they will see it? So far I've only changed the
English page.

 You can send mail to docusers list.

OK I will do that once Alex confirms that he is able to subscribe.

Scott

Re: Is it possible to get the old behavior of Flex insets (before the fix for #8442)?

[Patrick O'Keeffe]

On 2014-05-02 2:48, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

2014-05-02 11:27 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

Yes. When the inset is closed, entering it could cause to open it
temporarily. With this, the inset could be inserted as closed by
default.


This would be a good default for Flex insets, indeed.

Jürgen


JMarc



I think this would be very distracting behavior.. text below the cursor 
shifting down/up as I enter/exit certain insets.


Could I suggest instead the ability to open/close all insets of a 
certain type?


View  Open All Insets of Type  Text Style: Code
View  Close All Insets of Type  Text Style: Code

Patrick

Re: new list: lyx-es

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 
  I can add it easily to the mailing list info on the website:
  http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists
  For the other languages of the website, do I email the translators
  and/or do I add it in English and they will see it?
 
  They will see it.
 
 Do you mean if I only change the English page they will see it? Or if
 I change their pages they will see it? So far I've only changed the
 English page.

Those who are active are subscribed to lyx-doc and apache sends notifications
of any change on the web to that list. P

Re: Plans for python support on lyx-2.2

[Neal Becker]

I think the python-future package is helpful

Re: Re: Plans for python support on lyx-2.2

[José Matos]

On Friday 02 May 2014 13:31:36 Neal Becker wrote:
 I think the python-future package is helpful

Do you mean

from __future__ import print_function, division

if so I agree. :-)

-- 
José Abílio

Fw: WELCOME to lyx...@lists.lyx.org

[Alex Vergara Gil]

Confirmed! I´ve subscribed to the spanish list of LyX.

Regards

Alex

- Original Message - 
From: lyx-es-h...@lists.lyx.org

To: alex
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 2:22 PM
Subject: WELCOME to lyx...@lists.lyx.org



¡Hola! Soy el programa ezmlm. Me ocupo de la lista de correo
lyx...@lists.lyx.org.

Estoy trabajando para mi propietario, a quien se puede localizar
en lyx-es-ow...@lists.lyx.org.

Acuse de recibo: He añadido la dirección

alex

A la lista de correo lyx-es.

¡Bienvenido a lyx...@lists.lyx.org!

Re: new list: lyx-es

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:

 Those who are active are subscribed to lyx-doc and apache sends notifications
 of any change on the web to that list. P

Thanks, then I guess my work is done.

Scott

Re: Call for testers: the features/str-metrics branch

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org 
 wrote:
 I did not manage to reproduce. Do you have a file to try is out?

 I will send you the file when I get home. I will also check that the
 build logs are the same. I took care to use the latest commit from
 master that you merged in for the comparison and the same build
 script, but maybe somehow a CMake flag was added/subtracted.

 Scott

See attached for the example. I checked and that build logs are the
same. Attached is my output of CMake. I've also tried with my normal
preferences and with default preferences. I've also confirmed that the
output of ldd on the binaries is the same. And I reproduced the same
difference in behaviors on a different machine (although a very
similar setup).

Scott


cmake
Description: Binary data


jumpingExample.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Re: Plans for python support on lyx-2.2

[Benjamin Piwowarski]

On 2 May 2014 at 19:41:52 , José Matos (jama...@lyx.org) wrote:
On Friday 02 May 2014 13:31:36 Neal Becker wrote:  
 I think the python-future package is helpful  

Do you mean  

from __future__ import print_function, division  

if so I agree. :-)  

Yes, but it would be good not to use it, in order to support OS X systems more 
ancient than the current one - they are running python 2.5-2.6. 

benjamin

Re: Re: Plans for python support on lyx-2.2

[Benjamin Piwowarski]

On 1 May 2014 at 23:06:16 , José Matos (jama...@lyx.org) wrote:
On Thursday 24 April 2014 17:13:43 Josh Hieronymus wrote:  
> The question:... Was there a reason that we were using  
> binary mode in the first place?  
>  
> Josh  

IIRC it was to deal with the end line char in windows, but this was to support 
python 2.2 and my memory is fuzzy about further details. This was before the 
universal end line support in python.  

OK, so going to text mode should not be a problem anymore.

Benjamin 

Re: Is it possible to get the old behavior of Flex insets (before the fix for #8442)?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

30/04/2014 21:33, Jürgen Spitzmüller:

Yes, that's right. I have to say that I am also mildly annoyed by this,
even though I committed this change. I find myself constantly closing
conglomerate-style insets immediately after inserting. Since it's a
matter of taste, we probably need to provide a choice.


Don't we still have some kind of auto-close mechanism from which we can 
have the "code" caption shown only when editing the inset?

Re: Is it possible to get the old behavior of Flex insets (before the fix for #8442)?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2014-05-02 10:31 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

> Don't we still have some kind of auto-close mechanism from which we can
> have the "code" caption shown only when editing the inset?
>

You mean the mechanism that is used, f.ex., by the spellchecker?

Jürgen

Re: Is it possible to get the old behavior of Flex insets (before the fix for #8442)?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

02/05/2014 10:59, Jürgen Spitzmüller:

2014-05-02 10:31 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

Don't we still have some kind of auto-close mechanism from which we
can have the "code" caption shown only when editing the inset?


You mean the mechanism that is used, f.ex., by the spellchecker?


Yes. When the inset is closed, entering it could cause to open it 
temporarily. With this, the inset could be inserted as closed by default.


JMarc

Re: Is it possible to get the old behavior of Flex insets (before the fix for #8442)?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2014-05-02 11:27 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

> Yes. When the inset is closed, entering it could cause to open it
> temporarily. With this, the inset could be inserted as closed by default.
>

This would be a good default for Flex insets, indeed.

Jürgen



>
> JMarc
>
>

Re: Call for testers: the features/str-metrics branch

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

30/04/2014 22:17, Scott Kostyshak:

It works well for me and the only (very minor) thing I've noticed so far is:
When I select an ERT box, the text inside seems to jump a little bit.
Here is a screencast of master built at 0c0e16c6:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/co98z262kwi0l6r/master-2014-04-22.ogv
(you should see no jumping)
And here is the screencast doing the same thing but with the str-metrics branch:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i9x9ab060p1rry5/str-metrics.ogv
(here is where I see jumping).


I did not manage to reproduce. Do you have a file to try is out?

JMarc

Re: new list: lyx-es

[Alex Vergara Gil]

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Kostyshak" 

To: "LyX Developers" 
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:53 AM
Subject: new list: lyx-es



Pavel and Máté have helped me to set up lyx-es, a mailing list for
Spanish speakers. It is our third non-English mailing list, in
addition to lyx-fr and lyx-jp.

Anything else?

Scott


Hi devels

When I try to subscribe to this spanish speakers list I get the following 
error


"""
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at thales.memphis.edu.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

:
ezmlm-reject: fatal: Sorry, I don't accept commands in the subject line. 
Please send a message to the -help address shown in the the 
``Mailing-List:'' header for command info (#5.7.0)

"""

What am I doing wrong??

Regards

Alex 

Re: Call for testers: the features/str-metrics branch

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes  wrote:
> 30/04/2014 22:17, Scott Kostyshak:
>
>> It works well for me and the only (very minor) thing I've noticed so far
>> is:
>> When I select an ERT box, the text inside seems to jump a little bit.
>> Here is a screencast of master built at 0c0e16c6:
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/co98z262kwi0l6r/master-2014-04-22.ogv
>> (you should see no jumping)
>> And here is the screencast doing the same thing but with the str-metrics
>> branch:
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/i9x9ab060p1rry5/str-metrics.ogv
>> (here is where I see jumping).
>
>
> I did not manage to reproduce. Do you have a file to try is out?

I will send you the file when I get home. I will also check that the
build logs are the same. I took care to use the latest commit from
master that you merged in for the comparison and the same build
script, but maybe somehow a CMake flag was added/subtracted.

Scott

Re: Re: enhancement request: support biblatex

[Neal Becker]

José Matos wrote:

> On Monday 28 April 2014 08:13:49 Neal Becker wrote:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584063
>> 
>> Seems fedora is not shipping biber, it is still an open bug
> 
> Why don't you install the package from the copr repository pointed there?
> 
> With some feedback it will possible to place this package in Fedora.
> 
> FWIW I had/have a copr repository for lyx-2.1 before it was released.
> 
> Regards,
Oh thanks!  I didn't know about biber in copr.

Re: new list: lyx-es

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Alex Vergara Gil  wrote:

> When I try to subscribe to this spanish speakers list I get the following
> error
>
> """
> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at thales.memphis.edu.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
> :

Hi Alex,

Did you sent the email to lyx-es-subscr...@lists.lyx.org? If not, try
that. lyx...@lists.lyx.org is for when you want to send an email to
the list. The response you received was saying that you need to send a
non-empty email if you are sending to the list.

Let me know if that works or not.

Scott

Re: new list: lyx-es

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Pavel Sanda  wrote:

>> I can add it easily to the mailing list info on the website:
>> http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists
>> For the other languages of the website, do I email the translators
>> and/or do I add it in English and they will see it?
>
> They will see it.

Do you mean if I only change the English page they will see it? Or if
I change their pages they will see it? So far I've only changed the
English page.

> You can send mail to doc list.

OK I will do that once Alex confirms that he is able to subscribe.

Scott

Re: Is it possible to get the old behavior of Flex insets (before the fix for #8442)?

[Patrick O'Keeffe]

On 2014-05-02 2:48, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

2014-05-02 11:27 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:

Yes. When the inset is closed, entering it could cause to open it
temporarily. With this, the inset could be inserted as closed by
default.


This would be a good default for Flex insets, indeed.

Jürgen


JMarc



I think this would be very distracting behavior.. text below the cursor 
shifting down/up as I enter/exit certain insets.


Could I suggest instead the ability to open/close all insets of a 
certain type?


View > Open All Insets of Type > Text Style: Code
View > Close All Insets of Type > Text Style: Code

Patrick

Re: new list: lyx-es

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Pavel Sanda  wrote:
> 
> >> I can add it easily to the mailing list info on the website:
> >> http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists
> >> For the other languages of the website, do I email the translators
> >> and/or do I add it in English and they will see it?
> >
> > They will see it.
> 
> Do you mean if I only change the English page they will see it? Or if
> I change their pages they will see it? So far I've only changed the
> English page.

Those who are active are subscribed to lyx-doc and apache sends notifications
of any change on the web to that list. P

Re: Plans for python support on lyx-2.2

[Neal Becker]

I think the python-future package is helpful

Re: Re: Plans for python support on lyx-2.2

[José Matos]

On Friday 02 May 2014 13:31:36 Neal Becker wrote:
> I think the python-future package is helpful

Do you mean

from __future__ import print_function, division

if so I agree. :-)

-- 
José Abílio

Fw: WELCOME to lyx...@lists.lyx.org

[Alex Vergara Gil]

Confirmed! I´ve subscribed to the spanish list of LyX.

Regards

Alex

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 2:22 PM
Subject: WELCOME to lyx...@lists.lyx.org



¡Hola! Soy el programa ezmlm. Me ocupo de la lista de correo
lyx...@lists.lyx.org.

Estoy trabajando para mi propietario, a quien se puede localizar
en lyx-es-ow...@lists.lyx.org.

Acuse de recibo: He añadido la dirección

alex

A la lista de correo lyx-es.

¡Bienvenido a lyx...@lists.lyx.org!

Re: new list: lyx-es

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Pavel Sanda  wrote:

> Those who are active are subscribed to lyx-doc and apache sends notifications
> of any change on the web to that list. P

Thanks, then I guess my work is done.

Scott

Re: Call for testers: the features/str-metrics branch

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes  
> wrote:
>> I did not manage to reproduce. Do you have a file to try is out?
>
> I will send you the file when I get home. I will also check that the
> build logs are the same. I took care to use the latest commit from
> master that you merged in for the comparison and the same build
> script, but maybe somehow a CMake flag was added/subtracted.
>
> Scott

See attached for the example. I checked and that build logs are the
same. Attached is my output of CMake. I've also tried with my normal
preferences and with default preferences. I've also confirmed that the
output of ldd on the binaries is the same. And I reproduced the same
difference in behaviors on a different machine (although a very
similar setup).

Scott


cmake
Description: Binary data


jumpingExample.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Re: Plans for python support on lyx-2.2

[Benjamin Piwowarski]

On 2 May 2014 at 19:41:52 , José Matos (jama...@lyx.org) wrote:
On Friday 02 May 2014 13:31:36 Neal Becker wrote:  
> I think the python-future package is helpful  

Do you mean  

from __future__ import print_function, division  

if so I agree. :-)  

Yes, but it would be good not to use it, in order to support OS X systems more 
ancient than the current one - they are running python 2.5-2.6. 

benjamin