Re: About USE_META_KEYBINDING (Stephan?)

[Stephan Witt]

Am 18.10.2012 um 00:17 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org:

 Le 17/10/12 07:41, Stephan Witt a écrit :
 Why not just define USE_META_KEYBINDING in configure for the mac build?
 
 Yes, this can be done.
 
 Other options are
 1) to remove the USE_META_KEYBINDING macro
 2) to handle Alt and Meta separately on all platforms
 
 This is what I though afterwards. Is the problem that all M- bindings should 
 become A-? It is a lesser problem now that we hav prefs2prefs which can 
 update bind files.


I remember this was a problem for some Mac users.
The bindings are only on M- after the change to free the 
Option key for transposed characters.
Like Option-l for @ or Option-d for ∂. 
The problem is that some users are accustomed to work with
the Option key and they have to learn to use Command or Control instead.
(This depends on the Qt-setting for swapped keys being on or off.)

I don't know if this scenario is likewise on Linux or Windows.

Stephan

Re: About USE_META_KEYBINDING (Stephan?)

[Stephan Witt]

Am 18.10.2012 um 00:17 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes :

> Le 17/10/12 07:41, Stephan Witt a écrit :
>>> Why not just define USE_META_KEYBINDING in configure for the mac build?
>> 
>> Yes, this can be done.
>> 
>> Other options are
>> 1) to remove the USE_META_KEYBINDING macro
>> 2) to handle Alt and Meta separately on all platforms
> 
> This is what I though afterwards. Is the problem that all M- bindings should 
> become A-? It is a lesser problem now that we hav prefs2prefs which can 
> update bind files.


I remember this was a problem for some Mac users.
The bindings are only on M- after the change to free the 
Option key for transposed characters.
Like Option-l for "@" or Option-d for "∂". 
The problem is that some users are accustomed to work with
the Option key and they have to learn to use Command or Control instead.
(This depends on the Qt-setting for swapped keys being on or off.)

I don't know if this scenario is likewise on Linux or Windows.

Stephan

Re: About USE_META_KEYBINDING (Stephan?)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 17/10/12 07:41, Stephan Witt a écrit :

Why not just define USE_META_KEYBINDING in configure for the mac build?


Yes, this can be done.

Other options are
1) to remove the USE_META_KEYBINDING macro
2) to handle Alt and Meta separately on all platforms


This is what I though afterwards. Is the problem that all M- bindings 
should become A-? It is a lesser problem now that we hav prefs2prefs 
which can update bind files.


JMarc

Re: About USE_META_KEYBINDING (Stephan?)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 17/10/12 07:41, Stephan Witt a écrit :

Why not just define USE_META_KEYBINDING in configure for the mac build?


Yes, this can be done.

Other options are
1) to remove the USE_META_KEYBINDING macro
2) to handle Alt and Meta separately on all platforms


This is what I though afterwards. Is the problem that all M- bindings 
should become A-? It is a lesser problem now that we hav prefs2prefs 
which can update bind files.


JMarc

About USE_META_KEYBINDING (Stephan?)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

While investigating ticket #8364, I stumbled on commit e9d943ae, which 
does changes to KeySequence.cpp like:


case 'm': case 'M':
+#if defined(USE_MACOSX_PACKAGING) || defined(USE_META_KEYBINDING)
+   mod |= MetaModifier;
+   i += 2;
+   continue;
+#endif

It happens that this USE_META_KEYBINDING macro is not defined anywhere. 
What is the intent here? Only handle Alt and Meta separately? Is this 
documented somewhere?


Why not just define USE_META_KEYBINDING in configure for the mac build?

JMarc

Re: About USE_META_KEYBINDING (Stephan?)

[Stephan Witt]

Am 16.10.2012 um 23:39 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org:

 While investigating ticket #8364, I stumbled on commit e9d943ae, which does 
 changes to KeySequence.cpp like:
 
case 'm': case 'M':
 +#if defined(USE_MACOSX_PACKAGING) || defined(USE_META_KEYBINDING)
 +   mod |= MetaModifier;
 +   i += 2;
 +   continue;
 +#endif
 
 It happens that this USE_META_KEYBINDING macro is not defined anywhere. What 
 is the intent here? Only handle Alt and Meta separately? Is this documented 
 somewhere?

I used USE_MACOSX_PACKAGING because of the low afford and it is a must for Mac 
OS X.
I didn't understand why it is not needed on other platforms, therefor I 
introduced USE_META_KEYBINDING to play with it.
But I didn't finish it…

 Why not just define USE_META_KEYBINDING in configure for the mac build?


Yes, this can be done.

Other options are
1) to remove the USE_META_KEYBINDING macro
2) to handle Alt and Meta separately on all platforms

Stephan

About USE_META_KEYBINDING (Stephan?)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

While investigating ticket #8364, I stumbled on commit e9d943ae, which 
does changes to KeySequence.cpp like:


case 'm': case 'M':
+#if defined(USE_MACOSX_PACKAGING) || defined(USE_META_KEYBINDING)
+   mod |= MetaModifier;
+   i += 2;
+   continue;
+#endif

It happens that this USE_META_KEYBINDING macro is not defined anywhere. 
What is the intent here? Only handle Alt and Meta separately? Is this 
documented somewhere?


Why not just define USE_META_KEYBINDING in configure for the mac build?

JMarc

Re: About USE_META_KEYBINDING (Stephan?)

[Stephan Witt]

Am 16.10.2012 um 23:39 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes :

> While investigating ticket #8364, I stumbled on commit e9d943ae, which does 
> changes to KeySequence.cpp like:
> 
>case 'm': case 'M':
> +#if defined(USE_MACOSX_PACKAGING) || defined(USE_META_KEYBINDING)
> +   mod |= MetaModifier;
> +   i += 2;
> +   continue;
> +#endif
> 
> It happens that this USE_META_KEYBINDING macro is not defined anywhere. What 
> is the intent here? Only handle Alt and Meta separately? Is this documented 
> somewhere?

I used USE_MACOSX_PACKAGING because of the low afford and it is a must for Mac 
OS X.
I didn't understand why it is not needed on other platforms, therefor I 
introduced USE_META_KEYBINDING to play with it.
But I didn't finish it…

> Why not just define USE_META_KEYBINDING in configure for the mac build?


Yes, this can be done.

Other options are
1) to remove the USE_META_KEYBINDING macro
2) to handle Alt and Meta separately on all platforms

Stephan