Re: Bleeding-edge LyX

2016-04-04 Thread Peter Kümmel



Am 04.04.2016 um 12:24 schrieb Andrew Parsloe:

On 4/04/2016 10:19 a.m., Andrew Parsloe wrote:

On 4/04/2016 9:02 a.m., Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 07:50:58AM +1200, Andrew Parsloe wrote:

On 4/04/2016 5:38 a.m., Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 10:14:18AM +1200, Andrew Parsloe wrote:

On 3/04/2016 2:44 a.m., Peter Kümmel wrote:
I've downloaded a more recent version, and the console window is absent,
which is good. However, there is a problem with \lyxformat numbers. I see
that a new document in bleeding-edge LyX is format 507. Documents in beta2
are 506 and are not converted. Looking at the messages pane (newfile1.lyx is
a 506 document),

Opening document D:\Documents\newfile1.lyx...Error: Document format failure



C:/Users/Andrew/AppData/Local/Temp/lyx_tmpdir.ZzYoSAnf4440/Buffer_convertLyXFormatiA4440.lyx
is not a readable LyX document.

Are you able to open 2.1.x files?

Scott

I hadn't tried that, but I've just done so, and no, 2.1.x files result in
the same error. (I've reverted to beta2 now.)

I wonder if the problem is that your 2.2.0dev binary either cannot find
lyx2lyx or is using a different lyx2lyx. Note that lyx and lyx2lyx are
separate programs so the lyx program calls lyx2lyx (thus your PATH is
important). Are you using this bleeding-edge LyX thing locally or did
you install it?

Scott

Having unzipped the download, you are presented with two directories, one 
labelled bin and one Resources. As I understand it, you simply copy these on 
top of the installed LyX. It sounds somewhat hair-raising. My bumbling about 
(it took me a number of attempts to work out exactly what to do although the 
instructions seem clear enough in hindsight) may well have had side-effects, 
including corrupting PATH. At this point I'll simply wait for rc1.

Andrew

In fact I've had another go, and now the bleeding edge LyX can open documents from 
earlier versions of LyX. Help > About lists the date of the build as 3 April, QT 
Version 5.5.1. The citation dialogue which you were looking for a windows user's 
comments on (#10019, & which is why I undertook this exercise) looks good, as far 
as I can tell. The minimum height is a little less than in 2.1.4, the minimum width 
the same. It seems to stretch horizontally and vertically as I would expect.

However, there are still problems with bleeding edge LyX and as you surmised, Scott, they 
do seem to centre around the path. The format of my custom modules is not updated to 60. 
I had to do that manually and the LyX icon in the task bar, when LyX is being used, is 
the windows default icon for a program. When I try to change the icon windows responds: 
Windows can't find the file %Program Files%\LyX 2.2\bin\lyx.exe. When I browse to 
C:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 2.2\bin\lyx.exe it tells me that "the file C:\Program 
Files (x86)\LyX 2.2\bin\lyx.exe" contains no icons. Whether this is the fault of b-e 
LyX or me, I don't know.



The missing icon is a bug of b-e.


Andrew

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Re: Bleeding-edge LyX

2016-04-04 Thread Andrew Parsloe

On 4/04/2016 10:19 a.m., Andrew Parsloe wrote:

On 4/04/2016 9:02 a.m., Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 07:50:58AM +1200, Andrew Parsloe wrote:

On 4/04/2016 5:38 a.m., Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 10:14:18AM +1200, Andrew Parsloe wrote:

On 3/04/2016 2:44 a.m., Peter Kümmel wrote:
I've downloaded a more recent version, and the console window is 
absent,
which is good. However, there is a problem with \lyxformat 
numbers. I see
that a new document in bleeding-edge LyX is format 507. Documents 
in beta2
are 506 and are not converted. Looking at the messages pane 
(newfile1.lyx is

a 506 document),

Opening document D:\Documents\newfile1.lyx...Error: Document 
format failure




C:/Users/Andrew/AppData/Local/Temp/lyx_tmpdir.ZzYoSAnf4440/Buffer_convertLyXFormatiA4440.lyx 


is not a readable LyX document.

Are you able to open 2.1.x files?

Scott
I hadn't tried that, but I've just done so, and no, 2.1.x files 
result in

the same error. (I've reverted to beta2 now.)

I wonder if the problem is that your 2.2.0dev binary either cannot find
lyx2lyx or is using a different lyx2lyx. Note that lyx and lyx2lyx are
separate programs so the lyx program calls lyx2lyx (thus your PATH is
important). Are you using this bleeding-edge LyX thing locally or did
you install it?

Scott
Having unzipped the download, you are presented with two directories, 
one labelled bin and one Resources. As I understand it, you simply 
copy these on top of the installed LyX. It sounds somewhat 
hair-raising. My bumbling about (it took me a number of attempts to 
work out exactly what to do although the instructions seem clear 
enough in hindsight) may well have had side-effects, including 
corrupting PATH. At this point I'll simply wait for rc1.


Andrew
In fact I've had another go, and now the bleeding edge LyX can open 
documents from earlier versions of LyX. Help > About lists the date of 
the build as 3 April, QT Version 5.5.1. The citation dialogue which you 
were looking for a windows user's comments on (#10019, & which is why I 
undertook this exercise) looks good, as far as I can tell. The minimum 
height is a little less than in 2.1.4, the minimum width the same. It 
seems to stretch horizontally and vertically as I would expect.


However, there are still problems with bleeding edge LyX and as you 
surmised, Scott, they do seem to centre around the path. The format of 
my custom modules is not updated to 60. I had to do that manually and 
the LyX icon in the task bar, when LyX is being used, is the windows 
default icon for a program. When I try to change the icon windows 
responds: Windows can't find the file %Program Files%\LyX 
2.2\bin\lyx.exe. When I browse to C:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 
2.2\bin\lyx.exe it tells me that "the file C:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 
2.2\bin\lyx.exe" contains no icons. Whether this is the fault of b-e LyX 
or me, I don't know.


Andrew

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Re: Bleeding-edge LyX

2016-04-03 Thread Andrew Parsloe

On 4/04/2016 9:02 a.m., Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 07:50:58AM +1200, Andrew Parsloe wrote:

On 4/04/2016 5:38 a.m., Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 10:14:18AM +1200, Andrew Parsloe wrote:

On 3/04/2016 2:44 a.m., Peter Kümmel wrote:
I've downloaded a more recent version, and the console window is absent,
which is good. However, there is a problem with \lyxformat numbers. I see
that a new document in bleeding-edge LyX is format 507. Documents in beta2
are 506 and are not converted. Looking at the messages pane (newfile1.lyx is
a 506 document),

Opening document D:\Documents\newfile1.lyx...Error: Document format failure



C:/Users/Andrew/AppData/Local/Temp/lyx_tmpdir.ZzYoSAnf4440/Buffer_convertLyXFormatiA4440.lyx
is not a readable LyX document.

Are you able to open 2.1.x files?

Scott

I hadn't tried that, but I've just done so, and no, 2.1.x files result in
the same error. (I've reverted to beta2 now.)

I wonder if the problem is that your 2.2.0dev binary either cannot find
lyx2lyx or is using a different lyx2lyx. Note that lyx and lyx2lyx are
separate programs so the lyx program calls lyx2lyx (thus your PATH is
important). Are you using this bleeding-edge LyX thing locally or did
you install it?

Scott
Having unzipped the download, you are presented with two directories, 
one labelled bin and one Resources. As I understand it, you simply copy 
these on top of the installed LyX. It sounds somewhat hair-raising. My 
bumbling about (it took me a number of attempts to work out exactly what 
to do although the instructions seem clear enough in hindsight) may well 
have had side-effects, including corrupting PATH. At this point I'll 
simply wait for rc1.


Andrew

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Re: Bleeding-edge LyX

2016-04-03 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 07:50:58AM +1200, Andrew Parsloe wrote:
> On 4/04/2016 5:38 a.m., Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> >On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 10:14:18AM +1200, Andrew Parsloe wrote:
> >>On 3/04/2016 2:44 a.m., Peter Kümmel wrote:
> >>I've downloaded a more recent version, and the console window is absent,
> >>which is good. However, there is a problem with \lyxformat numbers. I see
> >>that a new document in bleeding-edge LyX is format 507. Documents in beta2
> >>are 506 and are not converted. Looking at the messages pane (newfile1.lyx is
> >>a 506 document),
> >>
> >>Opening document D:\Documents\newfile1.lyx...Error: Document format failure
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>C:/Users/Andrew/AppData/Local/Temp/lyx_tmpdir.ZzYoSAnf4440/Buffer_convertLyXFormatiA4440.lyx
> >>is not a readable LyX document.
> >Are you able to open 2.1.x files?
> >
> >Scott
> I hadn't tried that, but I've just done so, and no, 2.1.x files result in
> the same error. (I've reverted to beta2 now.)

I wonder if the problem is that your 2.2.0dev binary either cannot find
lyx2lyx or is using a different lyx2lyx. Note that lyx and lyx2lyx are
separate programs so the lyx program calls lyx2lyx (thus your PATH is
important). Are you using this bleeding-edge LyX thing locally or did
you install it?

Scott


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Re: Bleeding-edge LyX

2016-04-03 Thread Andrew Parsloe

On 4/04/2016 5:38 a.m., Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 10:14:18AM +1200, Andrew Parsloe wrote:

On 3/04/2016 2:44 a.m., Peter Kümmel wrote:
I've downloaded a more recent version, and the console window is absent,
which is good. However, there is a problem with \lyxformat numbers. I see
that a new document in bleeding-edge LyX is format 507. Documents in beta2
are 506 and are not converted. Looking at the messages pane (newfile1.lyx is
a 506 document),

Opening document D:\Documents\newfile1.lyx...Error: Document format failure



C:/Users/Andrew/AppData/Local/Temp/lyx_tmpdir.ZzYoSAnf4440/Buffer_convertLyXFormatiA4440.lyx
is not a readable LyX document.

Are you able to open 2.1.x files?

Scott
I hadn't tried that, but I've just done so, and no, 2.1.x files result 
in the same error. (I've reverted to beta2 now.)


Andrew

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Re: Bleeding-edge LyX

2016-04-03 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 10:14:18AM +1200, Andrew Parsloe wrote:
> On 3/04/2016 2:44 a.m., Peter Kümmel wrote:

> I've downloaded a more recent version, and the console window is absent,
> which is good. However, there is a problem with \lyxformat numbers. I see
> that a new document in bleeding-edge LyX is format 507. Documents in beta2
> are 506 and are not converted. Looking at the messages pane (newfile1.lyx is
> a 506 document),
> 
> Opening document D:\Documents\newfile1.lyx...Error: Document format failure
> 
> 
> 
> C:/Users/Andrew/AppData/Local/Temp/lyx_tmpdir.ZzYoSAnf4440/Buffer_convertLyXFormatiA4440.lyx
> is not a readable LyX document.

Are you able to open 2.1.x files?

Scott


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Re: Bleeding-edge LyX

2016-04-02 Thread Andrew Parsloe

On 3/04/2016 2:44 a.m., Peter Kümmel wrote:

Am 2. April 2016 11:26:06 MESZ, schrieb Andrew Parsloe <apars...@clear.net.nz>:

Hullo Peter,
I've tried twice now to get a working bleeding-edge LyX (on a windows 7

machine), since there have been occasions recently when it would have
been helpful to have someone testing latest commits on a windows
machine. Everything seems to function until I launch LyX. A console
window opens, and then LyX is launched, but as you can see from the
attachment, the console window displays three error messages, and
remains open. Closing the console window closes LyX. With these errors
present, I'm reluctant to do anything serious with the resulting LyX.

Andrew


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Lyx gives a lot of warnings. I don't think these are critical.

The console is enabled for bleeding edge build, maybe not a good idea. In a 
release the console is just disabled, so there is no differrence in the lyx 
functionality.
I will disable the console for bleeding edge, too.

Thanks for testing bleeding edge, I already was thinking about killing it.

Peter
I've downloaded a more recent version, and the console window is absent, 
which is good. However, there is a problem with \lyxformat numbers. I 
see that a new document in bleeding-edge LyX is format 507. Documents in 
beta2 are 506 and are not converted. Looking at the messages pane 
(newfile1.lyx is a 506 document),


Opening document D:\Documents\newfile1.lyx...Error: Document format failure



C:/Users/Andrew/AppData/Local/Temp/lyx_tmpdir.ZzYoSAnf4440/Buffer_convertLyXFormatiA4440.lyx 
is not a readable LyX document.



Andrew



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Re: Bleeding-edge LyX

2016-04-02 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sat, Apr 02, 2016 at 10:42:55AM -0400, Richard Heck wrote:

> They are probably in customized bind files, possibly in
> user.bind. I'm not sure where these files are on Windows.

I think Help > About will say.

Scott


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Re: Bleeding-edge LyX

2016-04-02 Thread Peter Kümmel
Am 2. April 2016 11:26:06 MESZ, schrieb Andrew Parsloe <apars...@clear.net.nz>:
>Hullo Peter,
>I've tried twice now to get a working bleeding-edge LyX (on a windows 7
>
>machine), since there have been occasions recently when it would have 
>been helpful to have someone testing latest commits on a windows 
>machine. Everything seems to function until I launch LyX. A console 
>window opens, and then LyX is launched, but as you can see from the 
>attachment, the console window displays three error messages, and 
>remains open. Closing the console window closes LyX. With these errors 
>present, I'm reluctant to do anything serious with the resulting LyX.
>
>Andrew
>
>
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Lyx gives a lot of warnings. I don't think these are critical.

The console is enabled for bleeding edge build, maybe not a good idea. In a 
release the console is just disabled, so there is no differrence in the lyx 
functionality.
I will disable the console for bleeding edge, too.

Thanks for testing bleeding edge, I already was thinking about killing it.

Peter


Re: Bleeding-edge LyX

2016-04-02 Thread Richard Heck
On 04/02/2016 05:26 AM, Andrew Parsloe wrote:
> Hullo Peter,
> I've tried twice now to get a working bleeding-edge LyX (on a windows
> 7 machine), since there have been occasions recently when it would
> have been helpful to have someone testing latest commits on a windows
> machine. Everything seems to function until I launch LyX. A console
> window opens, and then LyX is launched, but as you can see from the
> attachment, the console window displays three error messages, and
> remains open. Closing the console window closes LyX. With these errors
> present, I'm reluctant to do anything serious with the resulting LyX.

You probably have been getting these same errors for a very long time,
but you just never saw them. The LyX functions mentioned were removed in
LyX 2.0! They are probably in customized bind files, possibly in
user.bind. I'm not sure where these files are on Windows.

It should be safe to proceed.

Richard



Bleeding-edge LyX

2016-04-02 Thread Andrew Parsloe

Hullo Peter,
I've tried twice now to get a working bleeding-edge LyX (on a windows 7 
machine), since there have been occasions recently when it would have 
been helpful to have someone testing latest commits on a windows 
machine. Everything seems to function until I launch LyX. A console 
window opens, and then LyX is launched, but as you can see from the 
attachment, the console window displays three error messages, and 
remains open. Closing the console window closes LyX. With these errors 
present, I'm reluctant to do anything serious with the resulting LyX.


Andrew


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