Re: Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

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> On Mar 14, 2018, at 9:41 PM, Joel Kulesza  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Joel Kulesza  > wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Stephan Witt  > wrote:
> Am 14.03.2018 um 21:54 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com 
> :
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 14, 2018, at 6:17 AM, Joel Kulesza  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:00 AM,  >> > wrote:
> >>> I’m confused. Is it working for you or not?
> >>
> >> It does not work insofar as nothing happens other than Skim opening with 
> >> the PDF when I click the preview eyeballs.  It doesn't move the document 
> >> to a particular point nor display the type of markup you described.
> >>
> >> I'll respond later in detail to Stephan's post regarding what I did to set 
> >> it up and what I ultimately experience (in both 2.2.3 and 2.3.0).
> >>
> >
> > OK. I have egg on my face. (I don’t know if that translates into your 
> > slang. 8^) First, I was not receiving all the list mail, only yours. I just 
> > now fixed my list subscription. Second and more important, as told in 
> > Stephan’s note, I did not have the document setting for “Synchronize with 
> > output” turned on.
> 
> To be honest - it was Pavel who mentioned it first. I’ve luckily repeated 
> this to make a self contained recipe. :)
> 
> > I guess I didn’t realize that setting was per-document. SORRY everyone. 
> > With that turned on, syncing is working. The only problem that I see is 
> > that with reverse search, the Skim document window is not brought to the 
> > front—but the scrolling and highlighting does happen. Not sure that’s a LyX 
> > problem though—could be the OS or Skim not sending the right (Applescipt?) 
> > command.
> 
> You want LyX front-most when doing the Command-Shift click in Skim? I think 
> this may be a legal enhancement request for LyX.
> 
> The work-around is to add custom arguments in Skim (I’ve grabbed it from LyX 
> wiki):
> 
> For standard LyX enter:
> "%file" %line ; /usr/bin/osascript -e 'tell application "LyX" to activate'
> 
> For custom command e.g.:
> /path/to/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyxeditor "%file" %line ; /usr/bin/osascript 
> -e 'tell application "LyX" to activate‘
> 
> Stephan
> 
> > Still, though, I first tested with the default document when selecting File 
> > -> New which is “Article (Standard Class)” and the “Synchronize with 
> > output” setting is already checked, by default. My mistake then I suppose 
> > was assuming that this would then happen with the IEEE template but that is 
> > a bad assumption.
> >
> > Sorry again for the hassle and thanks as usual for all the friendly help.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> 
> My experiences and thoughts after experimenting with this:
> I've tried to configure forward/reverse search with LyX+Skim (LyX installed 
> from lyx.org  and Skim installed via brew cask install) on 
> two separate machines using 2.3.0rc2.  I've gotten only reverse searching 
> working.  I do not have anything that indicates that forward searching is 
> functional.  Can someone please post a screencast showing what correct 
> forward search looks like so I know what to look for?
> On one machine that reverse search works, both LyX and Skim are installed to 
> /Applications.  On the other, they are installed to /local. For the /local 
> installations, I had to use a custom Skim preference providing the full path 
> to lyxeditor and the osascript append that Stephan copied from the wiki to 
> get reverse search working.
> Jerry noted that he overlooked the fact that PDF synchronization is per 
> document.  I admit that I also overlooked this for some time.  One possible 
> reason: I think the WIki page at https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/SyncTeX 
>  has this step mislabeled.  It says 
> "Document > Settings > Output", which I mistook for LyX>Preferences>Output 
> rather than Document>Settings>Formats.  If folks agree that the Wiki is 
> mislabeled, I can correct this.  However, perhaps someone with working 
> forward and reverse searching can create a formulaic write-up giving the 
> steps necessary to setup LyX from a fresh install and a document without 
> synchronization enabled.  It would be helpful (to me, at least) if the 
> write-up gave absolute paths/caveats for non-standard LyX and Skim (or other 
> viewer) locations.  
> The steps I used to configure the two applications are as follows (note that 
> I totally removed LyX 2.3.0rc2 and Skim.app and the associated preferences 
> (~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3 and 
> ~/Library/Preferences/net.sourceforge.skim-app*) before proceeding.  Please 
> let me know what step is incorrect or missing to get synchronization / 
> forward search working.
> Install LyX 2.3.0rc2 from UCSD mirror 
> (ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/LyX/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
>  
> 

Re: Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

[Joel Kulesza]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:41 PM, Joel Kulesza  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Joel Kulesza  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
>>
>>> Am 14.03.2018 um 21:54 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Mar 14, 2018, at 6:17 AM, Joel Kulesza  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:00 AM,  wrote:
>>> >>> I’m confused. Is it working for you or not?
>>> >>
>>> >> It does not work insofar as nothing happens other than Skim opening
>>> with the PDF when I click the preview eyeballs.  It doesn't move the
>>> document to a particular point nor display the type of markup you described.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'll respond later in detail to Stephan's post regarding what I did
>>> to set it up and what I ultimately experience (in both 2.2.3 and 2.3.0).
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > OK. I have egg on my face. (I don’t know if that translates into your
>>> slang. 8^) First, I was not receiving all the list mail, only yours. I just
>>> now fixed my list subscription. Second and more important, as told in
>>> Stephan’s note, I did not have the document setting for “Synchronize with
>>> output” turned on.
>>>
>>> To be honest - it was Pavel who mentioned it first. I’ve luckily
>>> repeated this to make a self contained recipe. :)
>>>
>>> > I guess I didn’t realize that setting was per-document. SORRY
>>> everyone. With that turned on, syncing is working. The only problem that I
>>> see is that with reverse search, the Skim document window is not brought to
>>> the front—but the scrolling and highlighting does happen. Not sure that’s a
>>> LyX problem though—could be the OS or Skim not sending the right
>>> (Applescipt?) command.
>>>
>>> You want LyX front-most when doing the Command-Shift click in Skim? I
>>> think this may be a legal enhancement request for LyX.
>>>
>>> The work-around is to add custom arguments in Skim (I’ve grabbed it from
>>> LyX wiki):
>>>
>>> For standard LyX enter:
>>> "%file" %line ; /usr/bin/osascript -e 'tell application "LyX" to
>>> activate'
>>>
>>> For custom command e.g.:
>>> /path/to/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyxeditor "%file" %line ;
>>> /usr/bin/osascript -e 'tell application "LyX" to activate‘
>>>
>>> Stephan
>>>
>>> > Still, though, I first tested with the default document when selecting
>>> File -> New which is “Article (Standard Class)” and the “Synchronize with
>>> output” setting is already checked, by default. My mistake then I suppose
>>> was assuming that this would then happen with the IEEE template but that is
>>> a bad assumption.
>>> >
>>> > Sorry again for the hassle and thanks as usual for all the friendly
>>> help.
>>> >
>>> > Jerry
>>> >
>>>
>>
>> My experiences and thoughts after experimenting with this:
>>
>>- I've tried to configure forward/reverse search with LyX+Skim (LyX
>>installed from lyx.org and Skim installed via brew cask install) on
>>two separate machines using 2.3.0rc2.  I've gotten only reverse searching
>>working.  I do not have anything that indicates that forward searching is
>>functional.  Can someone please post a screencast showing what correct
>>forward search looks like so I know what to look for?
>>- On one machine that reverse search works, both LyX and Skim are
>>installed to /Applications.  On the other, they are installed to /local.
>>For the /local installations, I had to use a custom Skim preference
>>providing the full path to lyxeditor and the osascript append that Stephan
>>copied from the wiki to get reverse search working.
>>- Jerry noted that he overlooked the fact that PDF synchronization is
>>per document.  I admit that I also overlooked this for some time.  One
>>possible reason: I think the WIki page at https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Sy
>>ncTeX has this step mislabeled.  It says "Document > Settings > Output
>>", which I mistook for LyX>Preferences>Output rather than
>>Document>Settings>Formats.  If folks agree that the Wiki is mislabeled, I
>>can correct this.  However, perhaps someone with working forward and
>>reverse searching can create a formulaic write-up giving the steps
>>necessary to setup LyX from a fresh install and a document without
>>synchronization enabled.  It would be helpful (to me, at least) if the
>>write-up gave absolute paths/caveats for non-standard LyX and Skim (or
>>other viewer) locations.
>>
>> The steps I used to configure the two applications are as follows (note
>> that I totally removed LyX 2.3.0rc2 and Skim.app and the associated
>> preferences (~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3 and
>> ~/Library/Preferences/net.sourceforge.skim-app*) before proceeding.
>> Please let me know what step is incorrect or missing to get synchronization
>> / forward search working.
>>
>>1. Install LyX 2.3.0rc2 from UCSD mirror (
>>ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/LyX/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0

Re: Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

[Joel Kulesza]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Joel Kulesza  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
>
>> Am 14.03.2018 um 21:54 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Mar 14, 2018, at 6:17 AM, Joel Kulesza  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:00 AM,  wrote:
>> >>> I’m confused. Is it working for you or not?
>> >>
>> >> It does not work insofar as nothing happens other than Skim opening
>> with the PDF when I click the preview eyeballs.  It doesn't move the
>> document to a particular point nor display the type of markup you described.
>> >>
>> >> I'll respond later in detail to Stephan's post regarding what I did to
>> set it up and what I ultimately experience (in both 2.2.3 and 2.3.0).
>> >>
>> >
>> > OK. I have egg on my face. (I don’t know if that translates into your
>> slang. 8^) First, I was not receiving all the list mail, only yours. I just
>> now fixed my list subscription. Second and more important, as told in
>> Stephan’s note, I did not have the document setting for “Synchronize with
>> output” turned on.
>>
>> To be honest - it was Pavel who mentioned it first. I’ve luckily repeated
>> this to make a self contained recipe. :)
>>
>> > I guess I didn’t realize that setting was per-document. SORRY everyone.
>> With that turned on, syncing is working. The only problem that I see is
>> that with reverse search, the Skim document window is not brought to the
>> front—but the scrolling and highlighting does happen. Not sure that’s a LyX
>> problem though—could be the OS or Skim not sending the right (Applescipt?)
>> command.
>>
>> You want LyX front-most when doing the Command-Shift click in Skim? I
>> think this may be a legal enhancement request for LyX.
>>
>> The work-around is to add custom arguments in Skim (I’ve grabbed it from
>> LyX wiki):
>>
>> For standard LyX enter:
>> "%file" %line ; /usr/bin/osascript -e 'tell application "LyX" to activate'
>>
>> For custom command e.g.:
>> /path/to/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyxeditor "%file" %line ;
>> /usr/bin/osascript -e 'tell application "LyX" to activate‘
>>
>> Stephan
>>
>> > Still, though, I first tested with the default document when selecting
>> File -> New which is “Article (Standard Class)” and the “Synchronize with
>> output” setting is already checked, by default. My mistake then I suppose
>> was assuming that this would then happen with the IEEE template but that is
>> a bad assumption.
>> >
>> > Sorry again for the hassle and thanks as usual for all the friendly
>> help.
>> >
>> > Jerry
>> >
>>
>
> My experiences and thoughts after experimenting with this:
>
>- I've tried to configure forward/reverse search with LyX+Skim (LyX
>installed from lyx.org and Skim installed via brew cask install) on
>two separate machines using 2.3.0rc2.  I've gotten only reverse searching
>working.  I do not have anything that indicates that forward searching is
>functional.  Can someone please post a screencast showing what correct
>forward search looks like so I know what to look for?
>- On one machine that reverse search works, both LyX and Skim are
>installed to /Applications.  On the other, they are installed to /local.
>For the /local installations, I had to use a custom Skim preference
>providing the full path to lyxeditor and the osascript append that Stephan
>copied from the wiki to get reverse search working.
>- Jerry noted that he overlooked the fact that PDF synchronization is
>per document.  I admit that I also overlooked this for some time.  One
>possible reason: I think the WIki page at https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/
>SyncTeX has this step mislabeled.  It says "Document > Settings >
>Output", which I mistook for LyX>Preferences>Output rather than
>Document>Settings>Formats.  If folks agree that the Wiki is mislabeled, I
>can correct this.  However, perhaps someone with working forward and
>reverse searching can create a formulaic write-up giving the steps
>necessary to setup LyX from a fresh install and a document without
>synchronization enabled.  It would be helpful (to me, at least) if the
>write-up gave absolute paths/caveats for non-standard LyX and Skim (or
>other viewer) locations.
>
> The steps I used to configure the two applications are as follows (note
> that I totally removed LyX 2.3.0rc2 and Skim.app and the associated
> preferences (~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3 and
> ~/Library/Preferences/net.sourceforge.skim-app*) before proceeding.
> Please let me know what step is incorrect or missing to get synchronization
> / forward search working.
>
>1. Install LyX 2.3.0rc2 from UCSD mirror (ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/LyX/devel/
>lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
>
> )
>to /Applications/LyX.app. Note that I ultimately want to 

Re: Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

[Joel Kulesza]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Stephan Witt  wrote:

> Am 14.03.2018 um 21:54 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 14, 2018, at 6:17 AM, Joel Kulesza  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:00 AM,  wrote:
> >>> I’m confused. Is it working for you or not?
> >>
> >> It does not work insofar as nothing happens other than Skim opening
> with the PDF when I click the preview eyeballs.  It doesn't move the
> document to a particular point nor display the type of markup you described.
> >>
> >> I'll respond later in detail to Stephan's post regarding what I did to
> set it up and what I ultimately experience (in both 2.2.3 and 2.3.0).
> >>
> >
> > OK. I have egg on my face. (I don’t know if that translates into your
> slang. 8^) First, I was not receiving all the list mail, only yours. I just
> now fixed my list subscription. Second and more important, as told in
> Stephan’s note, I did not have the document setting for “Synchronize with
> output” turned on.
>
> To be honest - it was Pavel who mentioned it first. I’ve luckily repeated
> this to make a self contained recipe. :)
>
> > I guess I didn’t realize that setting was per-document. SORRY everyone.
> With that turned on, syncing is working. The only problem that I see is
> that with reverse search, the Skim document window is not brought to the
> front—but the scrolling and highlighting does happen. Not sure that’s a LyX
> problem though—could be the OS or Skim not sending the right (Applescipt?)
> command.
>
> You want LyX front-most when doing the Command-Shift click in Skim? I
> think this may be a legal enhancement request for LyX.
>
> The work-around is to add custom arguments in Skim (I’ve grabbed it from
> LyX wiki):
>
> For standard LyX enter:
> "%file" %line ; /usr/bin/osascript -e 'tell application "LyX" to activate'
>
> For custom command e.g.:
> /path/to/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyxeditor "%file" %line ;
> /usr/bin/osascript -e 'tell application "LyX" to activate‘
>
> Stephan
>
> > Still, though, I first tested with the default document when selecting
> File -> New which is “Article (Standard Class)” and the “Synchronize with
> output” setting is already checked, by default. My mistake then I suppose
> was assuming that this would then happen with the IEEE template but that is
> a bad assumption.
> >
> > Sorry again for the hassle and thanks as usual for all the friendly help.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
>

My experiences and thoughts after experimenting with this:

   - I've tried to configure forward/reverse search with LyX+Skim (LyX
   installed from lyx.org and Skim installed via brew cask install) on two
   separate machines using 2.3.0rc2.  I've gotten only reverse searching
   working.  I do not have anything that indicates that forward searching is
   functional.  Can someone please post a screencast showing what correct
   forward search looks like so I know what to look for?
   - On one machine that reverse search works, both LyX and Skim are
   installed to /Applications.  On the other, they are installed to /local.
   For the /local installations, I had to use a custom Skim preference
   providing the full path to lyxeditor and the osascript append that Stephan
   copied from the wiki to get reverse search working.
   - Jerry noted that he overlooked the fact that PDF synchronization is
   per document.  I admit that I also overlooked this for some time.  One
   possible reason: I think the WIki page at
   https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/SyncTeX has this step mislabeled.  It says "
   Document > Settings > Output", which I mistook for
   LyX>Preferences>Output rather than Document>Settings>Formats.  If folks
   agree that the Wiki is mislabeled, I can correct this.  However, perhaps
   someone with working forward and reverse searching can create a formulaic
   write-up giving the steps necessary to setup LyX from a fresh install and a
   document without synchronization enabled.  It would be helpful (to me, at
   least) if the write-up gave absolute paths/caveats for non-standard LyX and
   Skim (or other viewer) locations.

The steps I used to configure the two applications are as follows (note
that I totally removed LyX 2.3.0rc2 and Skim.app and the associated
preferences (~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3 and
~/Library/Preferences/net.sourceforge.skim-app*) before proceeding.  Please
let me know what step is incorrect or missing to get synchronization /
forward search working.

   1. Install LyX 2.3.0rc2 from UCSD mirror (
   
ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/LyX/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg)
   to /Applications/LyX.app. Note that I ultimately want to *not* have LyX in
   /Applications because I cannot have it so at my office.
   2. Install Skim via `brew cask install skim` to /Applications/Skim.app
   (version 1.4.32 installed).  Note that I ultimately want to *not* have
   Skim in /Applications because I cannot have it so at my office.
   3. 

Re: Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 08:54:34PM +, list_em...@icloud.com wrote:

> I guess I didn’t realize that setting was per-document. SORRY everyone.

No worries! This is something I often forget to set also.

Scott


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Re: Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

[list_email]

> On Mar 14, 2018, at 2:11 PM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
> 
> Am 14.03.2018 um 21:54 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 14, 2018, at 6:17 AM, Joel Kulesza  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:00 AM,  wrote:
 I’m confused. Is it working for you or not?
>>> 
>>> It does not work insofar as nothing happens other than Skim opening with 
>>> the PDF when I click the preview eyeballs.  It doesn't move the document to 
>>> a particular point nor display the type of markup you described.
>>> 
>>> I'll respond later in detail to Stephan's post regarding what I did to set 
>>> it up and what I ultimately experience (in both 2.2.3 and 2.3.0).
>>> 
>> 
>> OK. I have egg on my face. (I don’t know if that translates into your slang. 
>> 8^) First, I was not receiving all the list mail, only yours. I just now 
>> fixed my list subscription. Second and more important, as told in Stephan’s 
>> note, I did not have the document setting for “Synchronize with output” 
>> turned on.
> 
> To be honest - it was Pavel who mentioned it first. I’ve luckily repeated 
> this to make a self contained recipe. :)
> 
>> I guess I didn’t realize that setting was per-document. SORRY everyone. With 
>> that turned on, syncing is working. The only problem that I see is that with 
>> reverse search, the Skim document window is not brought to the front—but the 
>> scrolling and highlighting does happen. Not sure that’s a LyX problem 
>> though—could be the OS or Skim not sending the right (Applescipt?) command.
> 
> You want LyX front-most when doing the Command-Shift click in Skim?

To be a bit more exact, I want LyX to _become_ front-most _after_ Command-Shift 
click in Skim.

> I think this may be a legal enhancement request for LyX. 

Should I make a ticket?
> 
> The work-around is to add custom arguments in Skim (I’ve grabbed it from LyX 
> wiki):
> 
> For standard LyX enter:
> "%file" %line ; /usr/bin/osascript -e 'tell application "LyX" to activate'
> 
> For custom command e.g.:
> /path/to/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyxeditor "%file" %line ; /usr/bin/osascript 
> -e 'tell application "LyX" to activate’

Excellent! Thanks!
Jerry

> Stephan
> 
>> Still, though, I first tested with the default document when selecting File 
>> -> New which is “Article (Standard Class)” and the “Synchronize with output” 
>> setting is already checked, by default. My mistake then I suppose was 
>> assuming that this would then happen with the IEEE template but that is a 
>> bad assumption.
>> 
>> Sorry again for the hassle and thanks as usual for all the friendly help.
>> 
>> Jerry
>> 
> 

Re: Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

[Stephan Witt]

Am 14.03.2018 um 21:54 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
> 
> 
>> On Mar 14, 2018, at 6:17 AM, Joel Kulesza  wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:00 AM,  wrote:
>>> I’m confused. Is it working for you or not?
>> 
>> It does not work insofar as nothing happens other than Skim opening with the 
>> PDF when I click the preview eyeballs.  It doesn't move the document to a 
>> particular point nor display the type of markup you described.
>> 
>> I'll respond later in detail to Stephan's post regarding what I did to set 
>> it up and what I ultimately experience (in both 2.2.3 and 2.3.0).
>> 
> 
> OK. I have egg on my face. (I don’t know if that translates into your slang. 
> 8^) First, I was not receiving all the list mail, only yours. I just now 
> fixed my list subscription. Second and more important, as told in Stephan’s 
> note, I did not have the document setting for “Synchronize with output” 
> turned on.

To be honest - it was Pavel who mentioned it first. I’ve luckily repeated this 
to make a self contained recipe. :)

> I guess I didn’t realize that setting was per-document. SORRY everyone. With 
> that turned on, syncing is working. The only problem that I see is that with 
> reverse search, the Skim document window is not brought to the front—but the 
> scrolling and highlighting does happen. Not sure that’s a LyX problem 
> though—could be the OS or Skim not sending the right (Applescipt?) command.

You want LyX front-most when doing the Command-Shift click in Skim? I think 
this may be a legal enhancement request for LyX. 

The work-around is to add custom arguments in Skim (I’ve grabbed it from LyX 
wiki):

For standard LyX enter:
"%file" %line ; /usr/bin/osascript -e 'tell application "LyX" to activate'

For custom command e.g.:
/path/to/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyxeditor "%file" %line ; /usr/bin/osascript -e 
'tell application "LyX" to activate‘

Stephan

> Still, though, I first tested with the default document when selecting File 
> -> New which is “Article (Standard Class)” and the “Synchronize with output” 
> setting is already checked, by default. My mistake then I suppose was 
> assuming that this would then happen with the IEEE template but that is a bad 
> assumption.
> 
> Sorry again for the hassle and thanks as usual for all the friendly help.
> 
> Jerry
> 

Re: Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

[list_email]

> On Mar 14, 2018, at 6:17 AM, Joel Kulesza  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:00 AM,  wrote:
>> I’m confused. Is it working for you or not?
> 
> It does not work insofar as nothing happens other than Skim opening with the 
> PDF when I click the preview eyeballs.  It doesn't move the document to a 
> particular point nor display the type of markup you described.
> 
> I'll respond later in detail to Stephan's post regarding what I did to set it 
> up and what I ultimately experience (in both 2.2.3 and 2.3.0).
> 

OK. I have egg on my face. (I don’t know if that translates into your slang. 
8^) First, I was not receiving all the list mail, only yours. I just now fixed 
my list subscription. Second and more important, as told in Stephan’s note, I 
did not have the document setting for “Synchronize with output” turned on. I 
guess I didn’t realize that setting was per-document. SORRY everyone. With that 
turned on, syncing is working. The only problem that I see is that with reverse 
search, the Skim document window is not brought to the front—but the scrolling 
and highlighting does happen. Not sure that’s a LyX problem though—could be the 
OS or Skim not sending the right (Applescipt?) command.

Still, though, I first tested with the default document when selecting File -> 
New which is “Article (Standard Class)” and the “Synchronize with output” 
setting is already checked, by default. My mistake then I suppose was assuming 
that this would then happen with the IEEE template but that is a bad assumption.

Sorry again for the hassle and thanks as usual for all the friendly help.

Jerry

Re: Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

[Joel Kulesza]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:00 AM,  wrote:

> I’m confused. Is it working for you or not?
>
>
It does not work insofar as nothing happens other than Skim opening with
the PDF when I click the preview eyeballs.  It doesn't move the document to
a particular point nor display the type of markup you described.

I'll respond later in detail to Stephan's post regarding what I did to set
it up and what I ultimately experience (in both 2.2.3 and 2.3.0).

Re: Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

[list_email]

> On Mar 13, 2018, at 9:21 PM, Joel Kulesza  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 3:40 PM,  > wrote:
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 12:11 PM, Joel Kulesza > > wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:59 PM, > > wrote:
>> With LyX 2.3.0rc and Skim on Mac, both forward search and reverse search are 
>> failing for me. Didn’t someone fix this not too long ago? It fails whether 
>> LyX is in some random location or the supposed default location 
>> /Applications/LyX.app.
>> 
>> Jerry,
>> 
>> If you describe how you've setup Skim to work with LyX, I'll try setting it 
>> up similarly to test (on Mac).
>> 
>> Note: I'm not a Skim user. 
>> 
>> - Joel
>> 
> 
> Hi Joel,
> 
> Uh-oh. I just now made a small test document and both forward and reverse 
> search work as expected. However, in a paper originated from the LyX IEEE 
> template, it fails. In its forward attempt, Skim is brought to the front but 
> nothing else happens—no scrolling to the expected location and no 
> highlighting within Skim. (Skim places a red dot at the location for about 
> five seconds before it disappears, and also highlights the line.) Reverse 
> search from Skim does nothing.
> 
> I am working on a deadline for a paper and probably won’t have time to 
> develop a minimal example today, and possibly not until the end of the week.
> 
> OK—here’s a minimal example. Just open the IEEEtran-Journal.lyx template and 
> render it to Skim without modifying it. Behavior is as I describe above.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> Again, I'm not historically a Skim user; however, setting it up to work as 
> I'd imagine I do not see the type of behavior I'd expect.  That is, no 
> scrolling to the location of the LyX cursor within Skim.  
> 
> If you can describe how you've configured LyX and Skim, I can attempt to 
> reproduce dys(functionality), but at this point, I see only no functionality.
> 
> - Joel
> 

Joel,
I’m confused. Is it working for you or not?
Jerry

Re: Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

[Stephan Witt]

Am 13.03.2018 um 23:00 schrieb Pavel Sanda :
> 
> list_em...@icloud.com wrote:
>> OK???here???s a minimal example. Just open the IEEEtran-Journal.lyx template 
>> and render it to Skim without modifying it. Behavior is as I describe above.
> 
> When I open IEEEtran-Journal.lyx turn on synchronization in document 
> preferences then both forward and reverse search work under linux with xdvi.

I’ve tested it with LyX-2.3.0 on my Mac now. It works for me too here. With 
Skim and IEEEtran-Journal.lyx in case I turn on synchronization in document 
preferences. But with this complex document not all forward-search targets work 
as expected.

There are some changes to configuration needed though.

1. Skim: Location of LyX.app

In case you have the running LyX instance started as /Applications/LyX.app Skim 
can use the default settings PDF-Sync for LyX. Otherwise you have to choose 
„Own settings“ and enter something like: 
/path/to/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyxeditor "%file" %line

2. LyX: PDF-Sync command

You have to add e.g. /Applications/Skim.app/Contents/SharedSupport/displayline 
$$n $$o $$t as command for forward-search.

Regards,
Stephan

Re: Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

[Joel Kulesza]

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 3:40 PM,  wrote:

>
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 12:11 PM, Joel Kulesza  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:59 PM,  wrote:
>
>> With LyX 2.3.0rc and Skim on Mac, both forward search and reverse search
>> are failing for me. Didn’t someone fix this not too long ago? It fails
>> whether LyX is in some random location or the supposed default location
>> /Applications/LyX.app.
>>
>
> Jerry,
>
> If you describe how you've setup Skim to work with LyX, I'll try setting
> it up similarly to test (on Mac).
>
> Note: I'm not a Skim user.
>
> - Joel
>
> Hi Joel,
>
> Uh-oh. I just now made a small test document and both forward and reverse
> search work as expected. However, in a paper originated from the LyX IEEE
> template, it fails. In its forward attempt, Skim is brought to the front
> but nothing else happens—no scrolling to the expected location and no
> highlighting within Skim. (Skim places a red dot at the location for about
> five seconds before it disappears, and also highlights the line.) Reverse
> search from Skim does nothing.
>
> I am working on a deadline for a paper and probably won’t have time to
> develop a minimal example today, and possibly not until the end of the week.
>
> OK—here’s a minimal example. Just open the IEEEtran-Journal.lyx template
> and render it to Skim without modifying it. Behavior is as I describe above.
>
> Jerry
>

Again, I'm not historically a Skim user; however, setting it up to work as
I'd imagine I do not see the type of behavior I'd expect.  That is, no
scrolling to the location of the LyX cursor within Skim.

If you can describe how you've configured LyX and Skim, I can attempt to
reproduce dys(functionality), but at this point, I see only no
functionality.

- Joel

Re: Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

[Pavel Sanda]

list_em...@icloud.com wrote:
> OK???here???s a minimal example. Just open the IEEEtran-Journal.lyx template 
> and render it to Skim without modifying it. Behavior is as I describe above.

When I open IEEEtran-Journal.lyx turn on synchronization in document 
preferences then both forward and reverse search work under linux with xdvi.

Pavel

Re: Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

[list_email]

> On Mar 13, 2018, at 12:11 PM, Joel Kulesza  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:59 PM,  > wrote:
> With LyX 2.3.0rc and Skim on Mac, both forward search and reverse search are 
> failing for me. Didn’t someone fix this not too long ago? It fails whether 
> LyX is in some random location or the supposed default location 
> /Applications/LyX.app.
> 
> Jerry,
> 
> If you describe how you've setup Skim to work with LyX, I'll try setting it 
> up similarly to test (on Mac).
> 
> Note: I'm not a Skim user. 
> 
> - Joel
> 

Hi Joel,

Uh-oh. I just now made a small test document and both forward and reverse 
search work as expected. However, in a paper originated from the LyX IEEE 
template, it fails. In its forward attempt, Skim is brought to the front but 
nothing else happens—no scrolling to the expected location and no highlighting 
within Skim. (Skim places a red dot at the location for about five seconds 
before it disappears, and also highlights the line.) Reverse search from Skim 
does nothing.

I am working on a deadline for a paper and probably won’t have time to develop 
a minimal example today, and possibly not until the end of the week.

OK—here’s a minimal example. Just open the IEEEtran-Journal.lyx template and 
render it to Skim without modifying it. Behavior is as I describe above.

Jerry

Re: Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

[Joel Kulesza]

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:59 PM,  wrote:

> With LyX 2.3.0rc and Skim on Mac, both forward search and reverse search
> are failing for me. Didn’t someone fix this not too long ago? It fails
> whether LyX is in some random location or the supposed default location
> /Applications/LyX.app.
>

Jerry,

If you describe how you've setup Skim to work with LyX, I'll try setting it
up similarly to test (on Mac).

Note: I'm not a Skim user.

- Joel

Re: Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

[Pavel Sanda]

list_em...@icloud.com wrote:
> With LyX 2.3.0rc and Skim on Mac, both forward search and reverse search are 
> failing for me. Didn???t someone fix this not too long ago? It fails whether 
> LyX is in some random location or the supposed default location 
> /Applications/LyX.app.

I just tried it here (linux & DVI output) and it works. So either it's 
mac-specific or double check your document and preferences...

Forward and reverse search failing (again?) on 2.3.0rc

[list_email]

With LyX 2.3.0rc and Skim on Mac, both forward search and reverse search are 
failing for me. Didn’t someone fix this not too long ago? It fails whether LyX 
is in some random location or the supposed default location 
/Applications/LyX.app.

Jerry