Re: LyX class assignment

2003-10-27 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 08:50:34AM +1000, Amir Michail wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The discussion on this has been quite useful to us.  I have contacted
> other academics at UNSW CSE and have shown them this thread to see
> what they think.
> 
> BTW, there may be university regulations about whether we can require
> students to submit patches in a public forum.  Some students --
> particularly weaker ones -- may not want the world to see their code
> submissions.

I think in this particular case, not sending under a real name might
be in order. Especially if you set up teams of two or three people you
could simply name them 'team01' to 'team42' so no future employer will
be able to track down their mistakes ;-)

Andre'


Re: LyX class assignment

2003-10-25 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Angus Leeming wrote:

> Amir Michail wrote:
> > Hi,
> 
> > The discussion on this has been quite useful to us.  I have
> > contacted other academics at UNSW CSE and have shown them this
> > thread to see what they think.
> 
> > BTW, there may be university regulations about whether we can
> > require students to submit patches in a public forum.
> > Some students -- particularly weaker ones -- 
> > may not want the world to see their code submissions.
> 
> > The separate student list idea is good but it may be better to keep
> > the list archives off the web to encourage students to post
> > questions. I suppose intelligent questions would propagate to the
> > main development list, which is publicly available in any case.
> 
> Why not run the student list yourselves, so you are in total control 
> of it. 

Brilliant idea Angus!

> > The actual class starts March 1, 2004.  If we shall attempt this
> > experiment, I will contact you again a bit before then.  (How early
> > should I contact you before class start?)

If you want ideas for assignments, you should probably ask for them 
around Christmas or so? Oh, and don't forget to tell us what the aim of 
the course/assignments is supposed to be :-)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX class assignment

2003-10-24 Thread Angus Leeming
Amir Michail wrote:
> Hi,

> The discussion on this has been quite useful to us.  I have
> contacted other academics at UNSW CSE and have shown them this
> thread to see what they think.

> BTW, there may be university regulations about whether we can
> require students to submit patches in a public forum.
> Some students -- particularly weaker ones -- 
> may not want the world to see their code submissions.

> The separate student list idea is good but it may be better to keep
> the list archives off the web to encourage students to post
> questions. I suppose intelligent questions would propagate to the
> main development list, which is publicly available in any case.

Why not run the student list yourselves, so you are in total control 
of it. 

That way they can always retreat to the 'safety' of your own, private 
list if they don't like the look of the big, bad world. Indeed, I 
suspect that you and your students will find a private mailing list 
with 200+ active participants to be a stimulating environment in its 
own right.

Thereafter, encourage your students to subscribe to the public 
lyx-devel list, to ask questions of us and to submit patches. If they 
know that their patches will definitely be of interest to us but that 
our 'quality control' is quite high then I suspect that submissions 
will be relatively rare at first. Nonetheless, the students will 
become bolder as they see things being rolled into the main tree.

> The actual class starts March 1, 2004.  If we shall attempt this
> experiment, I will contact you again a bit before then.  (How early
> should I contact you before class start?)

If you proceed down the route I suggest above, then I don't see any 
special requirements of us other than a willingless to deal with a 
flood of correspondence after March 1. In other words, contact us as 
you see fit.

-- 
Angus



LyX class assignment

2003-10-24 Thread Amir Michail
Hi,

The discussion on this has been quite useful to us.  I have contacted
other academics at UNSW CSE and have shown them this thread to see
what they think.

BTW, there may be university regulations about whether we can require
students to submit patches in a public forum.  Some students --
particularly weaker ones -- may not want the world to see their code
submissions.

The separate student list idea is good but it may be better to keep
the list archives off the web to encourage students to post questions.
I suppose intelligent questions would propagate to the main
development list, which is publicly available in any case.

The actual class starts March 1, 2004.  If we shall attempt this
experiment, I will contact you again a bit before then.  (How early
should I contact you before class start?)

Amir