Re: [part 4/4] again about LyX's default settings
> "Andreas" == Andreas K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andreas> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Well, then how do we catter for users that do not like this feature >> but are forced to live with it? OpenOffice has these popping >> toolbars because it has a delay before activating them. Andreas> Make it possible for the user to de-activate this function in Andreas> the preferences. Freedom of choice and customizability is the Andreas> solution to all these disputes. But toolbar settings will be possible though menu in 1.5.0! So is there really a need to make all toolbars automatic by default? JMarc
Re: [part 4/4] again about LyX's default settings
> What was the result when we discussed last time whether the table toolbar > should be automatic by default or not? I don't remember, but we should not > start this discussion again, rather use the old conclusions. I remember the dicussion but couldn't find an exact conclusion about the toolbar popup. OK, postponing this. regards Uwe
Re: [part 4/4] again about LyX's default settings
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, then how do we catter for users that do not like this feature > but are forced to live with it? OpenOffice has these popping toolbars > because it has a delay before activating them. > > JMarc Make it possible for the user to de-activate this function in the preferences. Freedom of choice and customizability is the solution to all these disputes. Regards, Andreas
Re: [part 4/4] again about LyX's default settings
> "Andreas" == Andreas K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andreas> Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Enabling the automatic appearance of the toolbar is at the moment >> also to complicated for new users, so we should at least: - Add >> buttons to delete/add columns/rows in the table dialog and, or - >> enable the toolbar appearance feature by default. Andreas> The best way to evaluate a software is to look at what an Andreas> ordinary user want from the program. And of course both these Andreas> suggestions should be implemented. Why make it hard for a Andreas> user when one can make it easy? Well, then how do we catter for users that do not like this feature but are forced to live with it? OpenOffice has these popping toolbars because it has a delay before activating them. JMarc
Re: [part 4/4] again about LyX's default settings
Andreas K. wrote: > The best way to evaluate a software is to look at what an ordinary user > want from the program. And of course both these suggestions should be > implemented. Why make it hard for a user when one can make it easy? That is not the question. For historical reasons, the table dialog is unusable and has been for years. I doubt that anybody questions this. The question is: Are we going to fix this for 1.5.0, or not? I guess the asnwer is: If we find a volunteer to do so. I think that we have many more srious bugs to solve first. What was the result when we discussed last time whether the table toolbar should be automatic by default or not? I don't remember, but we should not start this discussion again, rather use the old conclusions. Georg
Re: [part 4/4] again about LyX's default settings
Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Enabling the > automatic appearance of the toolbar is at the moment also to complicated for >new users, so we should > at least: > - Add buttons to delete/add columns/rows in the table dialog > and, or > - enable the toolbar appearance feature by default. The best way to evaluate a software is to look at what an ordinary user want from the program. And of course both these suggestions should be implemented. Why make it hard for a user when one can make it easy? Andreas
