subject:"Unable to save wiki"

Xu Wang xuwang762 at gmail.com writes:

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Nicu Tofan nicu_tofan_office at yahoo.com
wrote:

Did you figure it out?

I am *very* interested in your project and hope that it doesn't get
interrupted because of the wiki problems.

Thank you Nicu!

Xu
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Nicu Tofan nicu_tofan_office at yahoo.com
wrote:

Nicu Tofan nicu_tofan_office at yahoo.com writes:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=diff

Trying to save changes in wiki does not work without any error message.

Help appreciated.
Nick

The new text that I try to paste is 80386 characters long. That may be the
problem. The preview functionality also presents the old version when the full
80386 text is inserted, but works OK with smaller
chunks.http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/UploadsAdmin
Nick

Hello, Xu! Thank you for your interest!

Of course it doesn't get interrupted.
As the person(s) that manage the wiki did not respond, my best
assumption is that there is a maximum character count that has been
reached. The version posted on the wiki is already obsolete and I'm thinking
about replacing the content with a link to current location. For now, I will
make a note at the top.

Took
me a couple of hours to convert the text from the PmWiki syntax to LyX
syntax using a regular expression capable editor, so we have a nice .lyx file
now that I host at the address below [1], for now.
During it's evolution, I expect suggestions about it's format and the
developers may choose a place on the site for it. I did not get to the
part where the output may be customized, yet, so I don't know if there
is a way to export to wiki pages (section generates a page, chapter generates
a page, something like that). If it does not have that ability yet, I will be
happy to contribute it, so that it's content may be present on the wiki, too.
(would that be of any benefit?)

However,
I must say that I'm interested in a number of other projects (started
this because I want to interact sage with LyX, for example) and my daily job,
so the writing goes fairly slow, as you probably noticed.

Regards,
Nick

[1] -
http://code.google.com/p/monkeysnest/source/browse/trunk/Prog/LyX/SourceCodeExploration%202011%2012%2009.lyx

Nick,

Thank you for the explanation! Your outside interests are definitely
understandable. Whatever you can accomplish will be greatly appreciated. I
actually prefer a .lyx file to a wiki file.

I wonder if this could be a new manual, Developing LyX. It could be hidden
from the average user, just as the information inset is hidden and can only be
activated with a keyboard shortcut. Or it could be visible.

My hope is also that it will become a new manual, but the decision about how it
is presented to the user is up to the core developers, I guess. I'm usually
against hiding the information, so a new entry in the help menu can't hurt, me
thinks. :)

But we're miles away from that point. There will be plenty of time to discuss
these matters.

Nick

Re: Unable to save wiki

2011-12-12 Thread Pavel Sanda

Nicu Tofan wrote:
 My hope is also that it will become a new manual, but the decision about how 
 it
 is presented to the user is up to the core developers, I guess. I'm usually
 against hiding the information, so a new entry in the help menu can't hurt, me
 thinks. :)

i'm not sure about help menu entry but the documentation itself will be included
in lyx sources for sure once you ask to include it (or some alpha version as 
well 
of course).
including something in menu imply some kind of commitment to keep it up-to-date
which will be difficult in long time range.

pavel

Re: Unable to save wiki

Pavel Sanda sanda at lyx.org writes:

 
 Nicu Tofan wrote:
  My hope is also that it will become a new manual, 
  but the decision about how it
  is presented to the user is up to the core developers, 
  I guess. I'm usually against hiding the information,
  so a new entry in the help menu can't hurt, me
  thinks. :)
 
 i'm not sure about help menu entry but 
 the documentation itself will be included
 in lyx sources for sure once you ask to 
 include it (or some alpha version as well 
 of course).
 including something in menu imply some kind 
 of commitment to keep it up-to-date
 which will be difficult in long time range.
 
 pavel
 
 

Thank you for the reply, Pavel. I will inform the 
mail list about first usable draft, no doubt about it.

Indeed, I can't say that I will have the time (and, 
to be franc, nor the will) to keep it up to date for 
a long time period. Maybe the development process may
be adjusted to require documentation adjustment, but 
that may slow it down. 

However, placing the .lyx and/or the .pdf file in 
sources should allow it to reach intended audience, 
so I'm quite happy with your take on the subject.

Nick

Re: Unable to save wiki

Xu Wang  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Nicu Tofan  yahoo.com>
wrote:
> 
>  
>   Did you figure it out?
> 
> 
> 
> I am *very* interested in your project and hope that it doesn't get
interrupted because of the wiki problems.
> 
> 
> Thank you Nicu!
> 
> 
> 
> Xu
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Nicu Tofan  yahoo.com>
wrote:
> 
> Nicu Tofan  yahoo.com> writes:
> >
> 
> > http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=diff
> >
> > Trying to save changes in wiki does not work without any error message.
> >
> > Help appreciated.
> > Nick
> >
> >
> The new text that I try to paste is 80386 characters long. That may be the
> problem. The preview functionality also presents the old version when the full
> 80386 text is inserted, but works OK with smaller
chunks.http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/UploadsAdmin
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Hello, Xu! Thank you for your interest!
> 
> 
> 
> Of course it doesn't get interrupted. 
> As the person(s) that manage the wiki did not respond, my best 
> assumption is that there is a maximum character count that has been 
> reached. The version posted on the wiki is already obsolete and I'm thinking
about replacing the content with a link to current location. For now, I will
make a note at the top.
> 
> 
> Took
>  me a couple of hours to convert the text from the PmWiki syntax to LyX 
> syntax using a regular expression capable editor, so we have a nice .lyx file
now that I host at the address below [1], for now.
>  During it's evolution, I expect suggestions about it's format and the 
> developers may choose a place on the site for it. I did not get to the 
> part where the output may be customized, yet, so I don't know if there 
> is a way to export to wiki pages (section generates a page, chapter generates
a page, something like that). If it does not have that ability yet, I will be
happy to contribute it, so that it's content may be present on the wiki, too.
(would that be of any benefit?)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> However,
>  I must say that I'm interested in a number of other projects (started 
> this because I want to interact sage with LyX, for example) and my daily job,
so the writing goes fairly slow, as you probably noticed.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Nick
> 
> [1] -
http://code.google.com/p/monkeysnest/source/browse/trunk/Prog/LyX/SourceCodeExploration%202011%2012%2009.lyx
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
> Nick,
> 
> Thank you for the explanation! Your outside interests are definitely
understandable. Whatever you can accomplish will be greatly appreciated. I
actually prefer a .lyx file to a wiki file.
> 
> I wonder if this could be a new manual, "Developing LyX". It could be hidden
from the average user, just as the information inset is hidden and can only be
activated with a keyboard shortcut. Or it could be visible.
> 
> Xu
> 

My hope is also that it will become a new manual, but the decision about how it
is presented to the user is up to the core developers, I guess. I'm usually
against hiding the information, so a new entry in the help menu can't hurt, me
thinks. :)

But we're miles away from that point. There will be plenty of time to discuss
these matters.

Nick

Re: Unable to save wiki

2011-12-12 Thread Pavel Sanda

Nicu Tofan wrote:
> My hope is also that it will become a new manual, but the decision about how 
> it
> is presented to the user is up to the core developers, I guess. I'm usually
> against hiding the information, so a new entry in the help menu can't hurt, me
> thinks. :)

i'm not sure about help menu entry but the documentation itself will be included
in lyx sources for sure once you ask to include it (or some alpha version as 
well 
of course).
including something in menu imply some kind of commitment to keep it up-to-date
which will be difficult in long time range.

pavel

Re: Unable to save wiki

Pavel Sanda  lyx.org> writes:

> 
> Nicu Tofan wrote:
> > My hope is also that it will become a new manual, 
> > but the decision about how it
> > is presented to the user is up to the core developers, 
> > I guess. I'm usually against hiding the information,
> > so a new entry in the help menu can't hurt, me
> > thinks. :)
> 
> i'm not sure about help menu entry but 
> the documentation itself will be included
> in lyx sources for sure once you ask to 
> include it (or some alpha version as well 
> of course).
> including something in menu imply some kind 
> of commitment to keep it up-to-date
> which will be difficult in long time range.
> 
> pavel
> 
> 

Thank you for the reply, Pavel. I will inform the 
mail list about first usable draft, no doubt about it.

Indeed, I can't say that I will have the time (and, 
to be franc, nor the will) to keep it up to date for 
a long time period. Maybe the development process may
be adjusted to require documentation adjustment, but 
that may slow it down. 

However, placing the .lyx and/or the .pdf file in 
sources should allow it to reach intended audience, 
so I'm quite happy with your take on the subject.

Nick

Re: Unable to save wiki

Did you figure it out?

I am *very* interested in your project and hope that it doesn't get
interrupted because of the wiki problems.

Thank you Nicu!

Xu

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Nicu Tofan nicu_tofan_off...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Nicu Tofan nicu_tofan_office at yahoo.com writes:

 
  http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=diff
 
  Trying to save changes in wiki does not work without any error message.
 
  Help appreciated.
  Nick
 
 


 The new text that I try to paste is 80386 characters long. That may be the
 problem. The preview functionality also presents the old version when the
 full
 80386 text is inserted, but works OK with smaller chunks.

 http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/UploadsAdmin

 Nick

Re: Unable to save wiki

2011-12-11 Thread Nicu Tofan

Did you figure it out?

I am *very* interested in your project and hope that it doesn't get interrupted
because of the wiki problems.

Thank you Nicu!

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Nicu Tofan nicu_tofan_off...@yahoo.com wrote:

Nicu Tofan nicu_tofan_office at yahoo.com writes:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=diff

Trying to save changes in wiki does not work without any error message.

Help appreciated.
Nick

http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/UploadsAdmin

Nick

Hello, Xu! Thank you for your interest!

Took me a couple of hours to convert the text from the PmWiki syntax to LyX
syntax using a regular expression capable editor, so we have a nice .lyx file
now that I host at the address below [1], for now. During it's evolution, I
expect suggestions about it's format and the
developers may choose a place on the site for it. I did not get to the
part where the output may be customized, yet, so I don't know if there
is a way to export to wiki pages (section generates a page, chapter generates
apage, something like that). If it does not have that ability yet, I will be
happy to contribute it, so that it's content may be present on the wiki, too.
(would that be of any benefit?)

However, I must say that I'm interested in a number of other projects (started
this because I want to interact sage with LyX, for example) and my daily job,
so the writing goes fairly slow, as you probably noticed.

Regards,

Nick

[1] -
http://code.google.com/p/monkeysnest/source/browse/trunk/Prog/LyX/SourceCodeExploration%202011%2012%2009.lyx

Re: Unable to save wiki

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Nicu Tofan nicu_tofan_off...@yahoo.comwrote:

--
**
Did you figure it out?

I am *very* interested in your project and hope that it doesn't get
interrupted because of the wiki problems.

Thank you Nicu!

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Nicu Tofan nicu_tofan_off...@yahoo.comwrote:

Nicu Tofan nicu_tofan_office at yahoo.com writes:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=diff

Trying to save changes in wiki does not work without any error message.

Help appreciated.
Nick

The new text that I try to paste is 80386 characters long. That may be the
problem. The preview functionality also presents the old version when the
full
80386 text is inserted, but works OK with smaller chunks.

http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/UploadsAdmin

Nick

--
**

Hello, Xu! Thank you for your interest!

Of course it doesn't get interrupted. As the person(s) that manage the
wiki did not respond, my best assumption is that there is a maximum
character count that has been reached. The version posted on the wiki is
already obsolete and I'm thinking about replacing the content with a link
to current location. For now, I will make a note at the top.

Took me a couple of hours to convert the text from the PmWiki syntax to
LyX syntax using a regular expression capable editor, so we have a nice
.lyx file now that I host at the address below [1], for now. During it's
evolution, I expect suggestions about it's format and the developers may
choose a place on the site for it. I did not get to the part where the
output may be customized, yet, so I don't know if there is a way to export
to wiki pages (section generates a page, chapter generates a page,
something like that). If it does not have that ability yet, I will be happy
to contribute it, so that it's content may be present on the wiki, too.
(would that be of any benefit?)

However, I must say that I'm interested in a number of other projects
(started this because I want to interact sage with LyX, for example) and my
daily job, so the writing goes fairly slow, as you probably noticed.

Regards,
Nick

[1] -
http://code.google.com/p/monkeysnest/source/browse/trunk/Prog/LyX/SourceCodeExploration%202011%2012%2009.lyx

Nick,

Thank you for the explanation! Your outside interests are definitely
understandable. Whatever you can accomplish will be greatly appreciated. I
actually prefer a .lyx file to a wiki file.

I wonder if this could be a new manual, Developing LyX. It could be
hidden from the average user, just as the information inset is hidden and
can only be activated with a keyboard shortcut. Or it could be visible.

Re: Unable to save wiki

Did you figure it out?

I am *very* interested in your project and hope that it doesn't get
interrupted because of the wiki problems.

Thank you Nicu!

Xu

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Nicu Tofan wrote:

> Nicu Tofan  yahoo.com> writes:
>
> >
> > http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=diff
> >
> > Trying to save changes in wiki does not work without any error message.
> >
> > Help appreciated.
> > Nick
> >
> >
>
>
> The new text that I try to paste is 80386 characters long. That may be the
> problem. The preview functionality also presents the old version when the
> full
> 80386 text is inserted, but works OK with smaller chunks.
>
> http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/UploadsAdmin
>
> Nick
>
>
>

Re: Unable to save wiki

2011-12-11 Thread Nicu Tofan

 Did you figure it out?

I am *very* interested in your project and hope that it doesn't get interrupted 
because of the wiki problems.

Thank you Nicu!

Xu

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Nicu Tofan  wrote:

Nicu Tofan  yahoo.com> writes:
>
>>
>
>> http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=diff
>>
>> Trying to save changes in wiki does not work without any error message.
>>
>> Help appreciated.
>> Nick
>>
>>
>
>
>The new text that I try to paste is 80386 characters long. That may be the
>problem. The preview functionality also presents the old version when the full
>80386 text is inserted, but works OK with smaller chunks.
>
>http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/UploadsAdmin
>
>Nick
>
>
>

Hello, Xu! Thank you for your interest!

Of course it doesn't get interrupted. 
As the person(s) that manage the wiki did not respond, my best 
assumption is that there is a maximum character count that has been 
reached. The version posted on the wiki is already obsolete and I'm thinking 
about replacing the content with a link to current location. For now, I will 
make a note at the top.

Took me a couple of hours to convert the text from the PmWiki syntax to LyX 
syntax using a regular expression capable editor, so we have a nice .lyx file 
now that I host at the address below [1], for now. During it's evolution, I 
expect suggestions about it's format and the 
developers may choose a place on the site for it. I did not get to the 
part where the output may be customized, yet, so I don't know if there 
is a way to export to wiki pages (section generates a page, chapter generates 
apage, something like that). If it does not have that ability yet, I will be 
happy to contribute it, so that it's content may be present on the wiki, too. 
(would that be of any benefit?)

However, I must say that I'm interested in a number of other projects (started 
this because I want to interact sage with LyX, for example) and my daily job, 
so the writing goes fairly slow, as you probably noticed.

Regards,

Nick

[1] - 
http://code.google.com/p/monkeysnest/source/browse/trunk/Prog/LyX/SourceCodeExploration%202011%2012%2009.lyx

Re: Unable to save wiki

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Nicu Tofan wrote:

>
>  --
> **
> Did you figure it out?
>
> I am *very* interested in your project and hope that it doesn't get
> interrupted because of the wiki problems.
>
> Thank you Nicu!
>
> Xu
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Nicu Tofan wrote:
>
> Nicu Tofan  yahoo.com> writes:
>
> >
> > http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=diff
> >
> > Trying to save changes in wiki does not work without any error message.
> >
> > Help appreciated.
> > Nick
> >
> >
>
>
> The new text that I try to paste is 80386 characters long. That may be the
> problem. The preview functionality also presents the old version when the
> full
> 80386 text is inserted, but works OK with smaller chunks.
>
> http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/UploadsAdmin
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>  --
> **
>
> Hello, Xu! Thank you for your interest!
>
>  Of course it doesn't get interrupted. As the person(s) that manage the
> wiki did not respond, my best assumption is that there is a maximum
> character count that has been reached. The version posted on the wiki is
> already obsolete and I'm thinking about replacing the content with a link
> to current location. For now, I will make a note at the top.
>
>  Took me a couple of hours to convert the text from the PmWiki syntax to
> LyX syntax using a regular expression capable editor, so we have a nice
> .lyx file now that I host at the address below [1], for now. During it's
> evolution, I expect suggestions about it's format and the developers may
> choose a place on the site for it. I did not get to the part where the
> output may be customized, yet, so I don't know if there is a way to export
> to wiki pages (section generates a page, chapter generates a page,
> something like that). If it does not have that ability yet, I will be happy
> to contribute it, so that it's content may be present on the wiki, too.
> (would that be of any benefit?)
>
>  However, I must say that I'm interested in a number of other projects
> (started this because I want to interact sage with LyX, for example) and my
> daily job, so the writing goes fairly slow, as you probably noticed.
>
>  Regards,
> Nick
>
>  [1] -
> http://code.google.com/p/monkeysnest/source/browse/trunk/Prog/LyX/SourceCodeExploration%202011%2012%2009.lyx
>
>
>
Nick,

Thank you for the explanation! Your outside interests are definitely
understandable. Whatever you can accomplish will be greatly appreciated. I
actually prefer a .lyx file to a wiki file.

I wonder if this could be a new manual, "Developing LyX". It could be
hidden from the average user, just as the information inset is hidden and
can only be activated with a keyboard shortcut. Or it could be visible.

Xu

Re: Unable to save wiki

Nicu Tofan nicu_tofan_office at yahoo.com writes:

 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=diff
 
 Trying to save changes in wiki does not work without any error message.
 
 Help appreciated.
 Nick
 
 


More intel:
- I have tried both Firefox and Chrome
- The only error reported by Firefox in the console is about this line in
http://wiki.lyx.org/farm.d/pub/css/markup.css, at line 84
  h5.runin { display: run-in; font-size: 100%; border: none; }
 It say: Error interpreting display

[14:52:48.123] GET http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=edit
[HTTP/1.1 200 OK 1969ms]
[14:52:50.099] .. the error, my language...
[14:52:50.201] ... warning about getAttributeNodeNS()
--
[14:53:33.627] POST http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=edit
[HTTP/1.1 302 Found 2328ms]
[14:53:35.946] GET http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration [HTTP/1.1 200
OK 2938ms]
--
[14:54:04.264] GET http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=diff
[HTTP/1.1 200 OK 6718ms]

Nick

Re: Unable to save wiki

Nicu Tofan nicu_tofan_office at yahoo.com writes:

 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=diff
 
 Trying to save changes in wiki does not work without any error message.
 
 Help appreciated.
 Nick
 
 


The new text that I try to paste is 80386 characters long. That may be the
problem. The preview functionality also presents the old version when the full
80386 text is inserted, but works OK with smaller chunks.

http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/UploadsAdmin

Nick

Re: Unable to save wiki

Nicu Tofan  yahoo.com> writes:

> 
> http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=diff
> 
> Trying to save changes in wiki does not work without any error message.
> 
> Help appreciated.
> Nick
> 
> 


More intel:
- I have tried both Firefox and Chrome
- The only error reported by Firefox in the console is about this line in
http://wiki.lyx.org/farm.d/pub/css/markup.css, at line 84
>  h5.runin { display: run-in; font-size: 100%; border: none; }
 It say: "Error interpreting "display"

[14:52:48.123] GET http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=edit
[HTTP/1.1 200 OK 1969ms]
[14:52:50.099] .. the error, my language...
[14:52:50.201] ... warning about getAttributeNodeNS()
--
[14:53:33.627] POST http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=edit
[HTTP/1.1 302 Found 2328ms]
[14:53:35.946] GET http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration [HTTP/1.1 200
OK 2938ms]
--
[14:54:04.264] GET http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SourceCodeExploration?action=diff
[HTTP/1.1 200 OK 6718ms]

Nick

Re: Unable to save wiki