Re: Wrong entry in dtk.layout?

2018-07-07 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag, 7. Juli 2018 15:50:04 CEST schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller 
:
> Am Samstag, den 07.07.2018, 14:53 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko:
> > Maybe too much. Checking  LaTeXConfig.lyx for aguplus.layout
> > previously I had 
> > Found: yes, no
> > now I have 
> > Found: yes, yes
> > The second yes is for agums.sty, but this is wrong, because not
> > installed here.
> 
> I think you overshot it. Many styles are not second-level dependencies,
> e.g. beamerarticle, beamerposter and the clo styles some classes
> provide.
> 
> I propose you revert and we remove second-level dependencies on a
> layout-by-layout basis.
> 
> Jürgen

OK.

Kornel


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Re: Wrong entry in dtk.layout?

2018-07-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Samstag, den 07.07.2018, 14:53 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko:
> Maybe too much. Checking  LaTeXConfig.lyx for aguplus.layout
> previously I had 
>   Found: yes, no
> now I have 
>   Found: yes, yes
> The second yes is for agums.sty, but this is wrong, because not
> installed here.

I think you overshot it. Many styles are not second-level dependencies,
e.g. beamerarticle, beamerposter and the clo styles some classes
provide.

I propose you revert and we remove second-level dependencies on a
layout-by-layout basis.

Jürgen

> 
>   Kornel
> 

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Re: Wrong entry in dtk.layout?

2018-07-07 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag, 7. Juli 2018 14:22:50 CEST schrieb Kornel Benko :
> Am Samstag, 7. Juli 2018 13:21:22 CEST schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller 
> :
> > Am Samstag, den 07.07.2018, 13:03 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko:
> > > Should we care about requirements here? They _may_ be important in
> > > case of MikTeX,
> > > otherwise I cannot see why Uwe added 'suffix.sty' in
> > > 51cea817100d451981763b2c66185cc35a9726f3,
> > > or 'answers.sty' in 5002ef33f03fdd5a7e401b6dd36285e2e4dee004.
> > 
> > Yes, they have been added for the sake of MikTeX, and we have decided
> > some time ago to remove them (the windows installer should roll its own
> > list for MikTeX if required).
> > 
> > These second-level dependencies are never fixed, and thus not really
> > predictable and maintainable.
> > 
> > Jürgen
> > 
> 
> Committed at 92c8a86. Hopefully nobody screams.
> 

Maybe too much. Checking  LaTeXConfig.lyx for aguplus.layout previously I had 
Found: yes, no
now I have 
Found: yes, yes
The second yes is for agums.sty, but this is wrong, because not installed here.

Kornel



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Re: Wrong entry in dtk.layout?

2018-07-07 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag, 7. Juli 2018 13:21:22 CEST schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller 
:
> Am Samstag, den 07.07.2018, 13:03 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko:
> > Should we care about requirements here? They _may_ be important in
> > case of MikTeX,
> > otherwise I cannot see why Uwe added 'suffix.sty' in
> > 51cea817100d451981763b2c66185cc35a9726f3,
> > or 'answers.sty' in 5002ef33f03fdd5a7e401b6dd36285e2e4dee004.
> 
> Yes, they have been added for the sake of MikTeX, and we have decided
> some time ago to remove them (the windows installer should roll its own
> list for MikTeX if required).
> 
> These second-level dependencies are never fixed, and thus not really
> predictable and maintainable.
> 
> Jürgen
> 

Committed at 92c8a86. Hopefully nobody screams.

Kornel



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Re: Wrong entry in dtk.layout?

2018-07-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Samstag, den 07.07.2018, 13:03 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko:
> Should we care about requirements here? They _may_ be important in
> case of MikTeX,
> otherwise I cannot see why Uwe added 'suffix.sty' in
> 51cea817100d451981763b2c66185cc35a9726f3,
> or 'answers.sty' in 5002ef33f03fdd5a7e401b6dd36285e2e4dee004.

Yes, they have been added for the sake of MikTeX, and we have decided
some time ago to remove them (the windows installer should roll its own
list for MikTeX if required).

These second-level dependencies are never fixed, and thus not really
predictable and maintainable.

Jürgen

> 
>   Kornel
> 

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Re: Wrong entry in dtk.layout?

2018-07-07 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Freitag, 6. Juli 2018 17:49:32 CEST schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck 
:
> On 07/06/2018 04:13 AM, Kornel Benko wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2018 22:38:08 CEST schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck 
> > :
> >> On 07/05/2018 11:59 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> >>> Am Donnerstag, den 05.07.2018, 17:55 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko:
>  OK, there are 65 (out of 121) files waiting for audit.
>  Since there are that many, maybe it would be more handy to handle
>  them when they become invalid :(
> >>> Or just handle them subsequently.
> >> Should be easy to write a perl script that would list dependencies.
> >>
> > Sure, but are you sure it is _always_ OK?
> 
> I meant just to help us check what needs fixing. Lots of unnecessary
> dependencies got added along the way.
> 
> Riki
> 

Should we care about requirements here? They _may_ be important in case of 
MikTeX,
otherwise I cannot see why Uwe added 'suffix.sty' in 
51cea817100d451981763b2c66185cc35a9726f3,
or 'answers.sty' in 5002ef33f03fdd5a7e401b6dd36285e2e4dee004.

Kornel



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Re: Wrong entry in dtk.layout?

2018-07-06 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 07/06/2018 04:13 AM, Kornel Benko wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2018 22:38:08 CEST schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck 
> :
>> On 07/05/2018 11:59 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
>>> Am Donnerstag, den 05.07.2018, 17:55 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko:
 OK, there are 65 (out of 121) files waiting for audit.
 Since there are that many, maybe it would be more handy to handle
 them when they become invalid :(
>>> Or just handle them subsequently.
>> Should be easy to write a perl script that would list dependencies.
>>
> Sure, but are you sure it is _always_ OK?

I meant just to help us check what needs fixing. Lots of unnecessary
dependencies got added along the way.

Riki



Re: Wrong entry in dtk.layout?

2018-07-06 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2018 22:38:08 CEST schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck 
:
> On 07/05/2018 11:59 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, den 05.07.2018, 17:55 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko:
> >> OK, there are 65 (out of 121) files waiting for audit.
> >> Since there are that many, maybe it would be more handy to handle
> >> them when they become invalid :(
> > Or just handle them subsequently.
> 
> Should be easy to write a perl script that would list dependencies.
> 

Sure, but are you sure it is _always_ OK?

Kornel

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Re: Wrong entry in dtk.layout?

2018-07-06 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2018 22:38:08 CEST schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck 
:
> On 07/05/2018 11:59 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, den 05.07.2018, 17:55 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko:
> >> OK, there are 65 (out of 121) files waiting for audit.
> >> Since there are that many, maybe it would be more handy to handle
> >> them when they become invalid :(
> > Or just handle them subsequently.
> 
> Should be easy to write a perl script that would list dependencies.
> 
> 
> >> Changing dtk.layout now.
> > This one is probably candidate for stable.
> 
> Fine with me.
> 
> Riki

Done at 87ade10

Kornel



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Re: Wrong entry in dtk.layout?

2018-07-05 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 07/05/2018 11:59 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 05.07.2018, 17:55 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko:
>> OK, there are 65 (out of 121) files waiting for audit.
>> Since there are that many, maybe it would be more handy to handle
>> them when they become invalid :(
> Or just handle them subsequently.

Should be easy to write a perl script that would list dependencies.


>> Changing dtk.layout now.
> This one is probably candidate for stable.

Fine with me.

Riki



Re: Wrong entry in dtk.layout?

2018-07-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Donnerstag, den 05.07.2018, 17:55 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko:
> OK, there are 65 (out of 121) files waiting for audit.
> Since there are that many, maybe it would be more handy to handle
> them when they become invalid :(

Or just handle them subsequently.

> Changing dtk.layout now.

This one is probably candidate for stable.

Jürgen

> 
>   Kornel

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Re: Wrong entry in dtk.layout?

2018-07-05 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2018 17:38:12 CEST schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller 
:
> Am Donnerstag, den 05.07.2018, 16:36 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko:
> > Sounds reasonable. Will you do it? 
> 
> I don't mind if you beat me to it.
> 
> > Also other some layouts?
> 
> I think all layouts will need to be audited. I've already handled some,
> but many are left.
> 
> Jürgen
> 
> > 

OK, there are 65 (out of 121) files waiting for audit.
Since there are that many, maybe it would be more handy to handle them when 
they become invalid :(

Changing dtk.layout now.

Kornel

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Re: Wrong entry in dtk.layout?

2018-07-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Donnerstag, den 05.07.2018, 16:36 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko:
> Sounds reasonable. Will you do it? 

I don't mind if you beat me to it.

> Also other some layouts?

I think all layouts will need to be audited. I've already handled some,
but many are left.

Jürgen

> 
>   Kornel

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Re: Wrong entry in dtk.layout?

2018-07-05 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2018 14:14:09 CEST schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller 
:
> 2018-07-05 11:48 GMT+02:00 Kornel Benko :
> 
> > The layout uses dtklogos.sty, but this is not provided by
> > www.ctan.org/usergrps/dante/dtk.zip.
> > Instead there is dtk-logos.sty.
> >
> > Shouldn't the line
> > #  
> > \DeclareLaTeXClass[dtk,dtklogos.sty,filecontents.sty,multicol.sty,ragged2e.sty]{Die
> > TeXnische Komoedie}
> > be corrected?
> >
> 
> I think we should remove the second-level dependencies. I.e.,
> 
> #  \DeclareLaTeXClass[dtk]{Die TeXnische Komoedie}
> 
> Jürgen
> 
> 
> >

Sounds reasonable. Will you do it? Also other some layouts?

Kornel

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Re: Wrong entry in dtk.layout?

2018-07-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2018-07-05 11:48 GMT+02:00 Kornel Benko :

> The layout uses dtklogos.sty, but this is not provided by
> www.ctan.org/usergrps/dante/dtk.zip.
> Instead there is dtk-logos.sty.
>
> Shouldn't the line
> #  
> \DeclareLaTeXClass[dtk,dtklogos.sty,filecontents.sty,multicol.sty,ragged2e.sty]{Die
> TeXnische Komoedie}
> be corrected?
>

I think we should remove the second-level dependencies. I.e.,

#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[dtk]{Die TeXnische Komoedie}

Jürgen


>
> Kornel
>


Wrong entry in dtk.layout?

2018-07-05 Thread Kornel Benko
The layout uses dtklogos.sty, but this is not provided by 
www.ctan.org/usergrps/dante/dtk.zip.
Instead there is dtk-logos.sty.

Shouldn't the line
#  
\DeclareLaTeXClass[dtk,dtklogos.sty,filecontents.sty,multicol.sty,ragged2e.sty]{Die
 TeXnische Komoedie}
be corrected?

Kornel


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