Re: euro as special character

2002-01-08 Thread adrien . rebollo


 Thomas Steffen wrote:
 
  Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
 an euro, but I'm not able to insert it with the keyboard.
 in all insets, like label, figure a.s.o., I get the currency
 symbol with AltGr-e (the sputnik) which becomes after closing the
 inset window the eurosign. but in lyx main-gui - nothing
 
 
 voss@maria:~ xmodmap -pke | grep 26
 keycode  26 = e E EuroSign
 

The problem seems to come from latinkeys.bind, where currency is defined,
but not EuroSign.
I used your configuration (xmodmap -pke | grep 26 - e E EuroSign),
which reproduced the bug,
then added
\bind EuroSign self-insert ¤
at the end of latinkeys.bind, and it worked.

There should be something cleaner than self-insert ¤, but at least
the problem lies there.

Adrien Rebollo


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Re: euro as special character

2002-01-08 Thread Herbert Voss

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thomas Steffen wrote:


Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


an euro, but I'm not able to insert it with the keyboard.
in all insets, like label, figure a.s.o., I get the currency
symbol with AltGr-e (the sputnik) which becomes after closing the
inset window the eurosign. but in lyx main-gui - nothing


voss@maria:~ xmodmap -pke | grep 26
keycode  26 = e E EuroSign


 
 The problem seems to come from latinkeys.bind, where currency is defined,
 but not EuroSign.
 I used your configuration (xmodmap -pke | grep 26 - e E EuroSign),
 which reproduced the bug,
 then added
 \bind EuroSign self-insert ¤
 at the end of latinkeys.bind, and it worked.
 
 There should be something cleaner than self-insert ¤, but at least
 the problem lies there.


yesss! :-)
thanks

Herbert



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Re: euro as special character

2002-01-08 Thread adrien . rebollo


> Thomas Steffen wrote:
> 
> > Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> >>an euro, but I'm not able to insert it with the keyboard.
> >>in all insets, like label, figure a.s.o., I get the currency
> >>symbol with AltGr-e (the sputnik) which becomes after closing the
> >>inset window the eurosign. but in lyx main-gui -> nothing
> >>
> 
> voss@maria:~> xmodmap -pke | grep 26
> keycode  26 = e E EuroSign
> 

The problem seems to come from latinkeys.bind, where "currency" is defined,
but not "EuroSign".
I used your configuration (xmodmap -pke | grep 26 -> e E EuroSign),
which reproduced the bug,
then added
\bind "EuroSign" "self-insert ¤"
at the end of latinkeys.bind, and it worked.

There should be something cleaner than "self-insert ¤", but at least
the problem lies there.

Adrien Rebollo


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Re: euro as special character

2002-01-08 Thread Herbert Voss

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>>Thomas Steffen wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
>>>
an euro, but I'm not able to insert it with the keyboard.
in all insets, like label, figure a.s.o., I get the currency
symbol with AltGr-e (the sputnik) which becomes after closing the
inset window the eurosign. but in lyx main-gui -> nothing


>>voss@maria:~> xmodmap -pke | grep 26
>>keycode  26 = e E EuroSign
>>
>>
> 
> The problem seems to come from latinkeys.bind, where "currency" is defined,
> but not "EuroSign".
> I used your configuration (xmodmap -pke | grep 26 -> e E EuroSign),
> which reproduced the bug,
> then added
> \bind "EuroSign" "self-insert ¤"
> at the end of latinkeys.bind, and it worked.
> 
> There should be something cleaner than "self-insert ¤", but at least
> the problem lies there.


yesss! :-)
thanks

Herbert



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http://www.lyx.org/help/




Re: euro as special character

2002-01-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Herbert I only wanted to know why I can get the Euro Symbol in all X
Herbert applications with AltGr-e but not inside LyX. I have no
Herbert knowledge about this keyboard stuff.

What font do you use in these applications? ISO-8859-15? Did you tell
LyX to use this encoding?

JMarc



Re: euro as special character

2002-01-07 Thread Thomas Steffen

Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 an euro, but I'm not able to insert it with the keyboard.
 in all insets, like label, figure a.s.o., I get the currency
 symbol with AltGr-e (the sputnik) which becomes after closing the
 inset window the eurosign. but in lyx main-gui - nothing

What does 

# xmodmap -pke | grep 26

tell you? 

Mine is:

keycode  26 = e E EuroSign currency

This means AltGR-e gives me the Euro sign, which does not work in any
application I have tried. 

AltGR-E gives results in the Euro sign if ISO-8859-15 is selected, but
it is technically wrong. Infact, it points to the currency sign, which
is the sputnik ¤ you mentioned. I don't have lyx-cvs, so I can't
comment on its behaviour. I can only get the sputnik within LyX 1.1.6.

Don't use a broken fix to work around a broken system. It will still
be broken. 

Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: euro as special character

2002-01-07 Thread Herbert Voss

Thomas Steffen wrote:

 Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
an euro, but I'm not able to insert it with the keyboard.
in all insets, like label, figure a.s.o., I get the currency
symbol with AltGr-e (the sputnik) which becomes after closing the
inset window the eurosign. but in lyx main-gui - nothing

 
 What does 
 
 # xmodmap -pke | grep 26
 
 tell you? 
 
 Mine is:
 
 keycode  26 = e E EuroSign currency


voss@maria:~ xmodmap -pke | grep 26
keycode  26 = e E EuroSign

 This means AltGR-e gives me the Euro sign, which does not work in any
 application I have tried. 
 
 AltGR-E gives results in the Euro sign if ISO-8859-15 is selected, but
 it is technically wrong. Infact, it points to the currency sign, which
 is the sputnik ¤ you mentioned. I don't have lyx-cvs, so I can't


this is not a sputnik for me, but an eurosymbol, because I have
the ...-15 charset.

 comment on its behaviour. I can only get the sputnik within LyX 1.1.6.


Again: I have only a problem with the Euro Symbol in the LyX
main-gui (in 1.1.6fix3 and cvs)!
In ALL other x-applications it works well.

Herbert


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http://www.lyx.org/help/




Re: euro as special character

2002-01-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Herbert Again: I have only a problem with the Euro Symbol in the LyX
Herbert main-gui (in 1.1.6fix3 and cvs)! In ALL other x-applications
Herbert it works well.

I'll try to experiment with that at home tomorrow.

JMarc



Re: euro as special character

2002-01-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Herbert> I only wanted to know why I can get the Euro Symbol in all X
Herbert> applications with AltGr-e but not inside LyX. I have no
Herbert> knowledge about this keyboard stuff.

What font do you use in these applications? ISO-8859-15? Did you tell
LyX to use this encoding?

JMarc



Re: euro as special character

2002-01-07 Thread Thomas Steffen

Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> an euro, but I'm not able to insert it with the keyboard.
> in all insets, like label, figure a.s.o., I get the currency
> symbol with AltGr-e (the sputnik) which becomes after closing the
> inset window the eurosign. but in lyx main-gui -> nothing

What does 

# xmodmap -pke | grep 26

tell you? 

Mine is:

keycode  26 = e E EuroSign currency

This means AltGR-e gives me the Euro sign, which does not work in any
application I have tried. 

AltGR-E gives results in the Euro sign if ISO-8859-15 is selected, but
it is technically wrong. Infact, it points to the currency sign, which
is the sputnik ¤ you mentioned. I don't have lyx-cvs, so I can't
comment on its behaviour. I can only get the sputnik within LyX 1.1.6.

Don't use a broken fix to work around a broken system. It will still
be broken. 

Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: euro as special character

2002-01-07 Thread Herbert Voss

Thomas Steffen wrote:

> Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>>an euro, but I'm not able to insert it with the keyboard.
>>in all insets, like label, figure a.s.o., I get the currency
>>symbol with AltGr-e (the sputnik) which becomes after closing the
>>inset window the eurosign. but in lyx main-gui -> nothing
>>
> 
> What does 
> 
> # xmodmap -pke | grep 26
> 
> tell you? 
> 
> Mine is:
> 
> keycode  26 = e E EuroSign currency


voss@maria:~> xmodmap -pke | grep 26
keycode  26 = e E EuroSign

> This means AltGR-e gives me the Euro sign, which does not work in any
> application I have tried. 
> 
> AltGR-E gives results in the Euro sign if ISO-8859-15 is selected, but
> it is technically wrong. Infact, it points to the currency sign, which
> is the sputnik ¤ you mentioned. I don't have lyx-cvs, so I can't


this is not a sputnik for me, but an eurosymbol, because I have
the ...-15 charset.

> comment on its behaviour. I can only get the sputnik within LyX 1.1.6.


Again: I have only a problem with the Euro Symbol in the LyX
main-gui (in 1.1.6fix3 and cvs)!
In ALL other x-applications it works well.

Herbert


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http://www.lyx.org/help/




Re: euro as special character

2002-01-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Herbert> Again: I have only a problem with the Euro Symbol in the LyX
Herbert> main-gui (in 1.1.6fix3 and cvs)! In ALL other x-applications
Herbert> it works well.

I'll try to experiment with that at home tomorrow.

JMarc



Re: euro as special character

2002-01-06 Thread adrien . rebollo

 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 
  I see the following line in iso-8859-15.cdef (aka latin9 aka latin0):
  164 \texteuro{}   # with package eurofont
  
  Isn't it what we are looking for?
 
 
 sure. But can you get it run??
 

Yes : you choose latin9 as encoding for the document,
iso8859-15 as screen font if you want to see it,
and manually add \usepackage{eurofont} in the LaTeX preamble.

I include the simplest example possible.

Adrien Rebollo




#LyX 1.2 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 220
\textclass article
\begin_preamble
\usepackage{eurofont}
\end_preamble
\language frenchb
\inputencoding latin9
\fontscheme default
\graphics default
\paperfontsize default
\spacing single 
\papersize Default
\paperpackage a4
\use_geometry 0
\use_amsmath 0
\use_natbib 0
\use_numerical_citations 0
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 3
\tocdepth 3
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\quotes_times 2
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default

\layout Standard

¤
\the_end



Re: euro as special character

2002-01-06 Thread Herbert Voss

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:


I see the following line in iso-8859-15.cdef (aka latin9 aka latin0):
164  \texteuro{}   # with package eurofont

Isn't it what we are looking for?


sure. But can you get it run??


 
 Yes : you choose latin9 as encoding for the document,
 iso8859-15 as screen font if you want to see it,
 and manually add \usepackage{eurofont} in the LaTeX preamble.
 
 I include the simplest example possible.

this is not my problem!

I only wanted to know why I can get the Euro Symbol
in all X applications with AltGr-e but not inside
LyX. I have no knowledge about this keyboard stuff.

Herbert



-- 
http://www.lyx.org/help/




Re: euro as special character

2002-01-06 Thread adrien . rebollo

> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> 
> > I see the following line in iso-8859-15.cdef (aka latin9 aka latin0):
> > 164 "\texteuro{}"   # with package "eurofont"
> > 
> > Isn't it what we are looking for?
> 
> 
> sure. But can you get it run??
> 

Yes : you choose latin9 as encoding for the document,
iso8859-15 as screen font if you want to see it,
and manually add \usepackage{eurofont} in the LaTeX preamble.

I include the simplest example possible.

Adrien Rebollo




#LyX 1.2 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 220
\textclass article
\begin_preamble
\usepackage{eurofont}
\end_preamble
\language frenchb
\inputencoding latin9
\fontscheme default
\graphics default
\paperfontsize default
\spacing single 
\papersize Default
\paperpackage a4
\use_geometry 0
\use_amsmath 0
\use_natbib 0
\use_numerical_citations 0
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 3
\tocdepth 3
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\quotes_times 2
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default

\layout Standard

¤
\the_end



Re: euro as special character

2002-01-06 Thread Herbert Voss

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>>Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I see the following line in iso-8859-15.cdef (aka latin9 aka latin0):
>>>164  "\texteuro{}"   # with package "eurofont"
>>>
>>>Isn't it what we are looking for?
>>>
>>
>>sure. But can you get it run??
>>
>>
> 
> Yes : you choose latin9 as encoding for the document,
> iso8859-15 as screen font if you want to see it,
> and manually add \usepackage{eurofont} in the LaTeX preamble.
> 
> I include the simplest example possible.

this is not my problem!

I only wanted to know why I can get the Euro Symbol
in all X applications with AltGr-e but not inside
LyX. I have no knowledge about this keyboard stuff.

Herbert



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http://www.lyx.org/help/




euro as special character

2002-01-04 Thread Herbert Voss

does it makes sense? needs package eurosym, which is the only
one with the official symbol.

Herbert

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http://www.lyx.org/help/






Re: euro as special character

2002-01-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Herbert does it makes sense? needs package eurosym, which is the only
Herbert one with the official symbol.

Doesn't it work out of the box with latin0?

JMarc



Re: euro as special character

2002-01-04 Thread Herbert Voss

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Herbert does it makes sense? needs package eurosym, which is the only
 Herbert one with the official symbol.
 
 Doesn't it work out of the box with latin0?


I don't really understand what you mean.

It doesn't belongs to any latinX.def 

Herbert

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http://www.lyx.org/help/




Re: euro as special character

2002-01-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Herbert Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
 
Herbert does it makes sense? needs package eurosym, which is the
 only
Herbert one with the official symbol.
 Doesn't it work out of the box with latin0?


Herbert I don't really understand what you mean.

Herbert It doesn't belongs to any latinX.def Herbert

I see the following line in iso-8859-15.cdef (aka latin9 aka latin0):
164 \texteuro{}   # with package eurofont

Isn't it what we are looking for?

I agree that it would be nice to have the euro sign for other
encodings too, but it is probably not a good idea to create a new
inset just for that. There are plenty of characters that are not in
latin1 and that would interest me (like \oe, \OE...), but having an
inset for each is overkill. The 'right' way to handle that would be to
improve the insetlatexaccent to understand these.

JMarc




Re: euro as special character

2002-01-04 Thread Herbert Voss

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

 I see the following line in iso-8859-15.cdef (aka latin9 aka latin0):
 164   \texteuro{}   # with package eurofont
 
 Isn't it what we are looking for?


sure. But can you get it run??


 I agree that it would be nice to have the euro sign for other
 encodings too, but it is probably not a good idea to create a new
 inset just for that. There are plenty of characters that are not in
 latin1 and that would interest me (like \oe, \OE...), but having an
 inset for each is overkill. The 'right' way to handle that would be to
 improve the insetlatexaccent to understand these.


I want to have an EuroSign and I have it.

You are tralking again about what should happened and what
will not happened ...

Herbert



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http://www.lyx.org/help/




euro as special character

2002-01-04 Thread Herbert Voss

does it makes sense? needs package eurosym, which is the only
one with the "official" symbol.

Herbert

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http://www.lyx.org/help/






Re: euro as special character

2002-01-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Herbert> does it makes sense? needs package eurosym, which is the only
Herbert> one with the "official" symbol.

Doesn't it work out of the box with latin0?

JMarc



Re: euro as special character

2002-01-04 Thread Herbert Voss

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

>>"Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
> 
> Herbert> does it makes sense? needs package eurosym, which is the only
> Herbert> one with the "official" symbol.
> 
> Doesn't it work out of the box with latin0?


I don't really understand what you mean.

It doesn't belongs to any latinX.def 

Herbert

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http://www.lyx.org/help/




Re: euro as special character

2002-01-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Herbert> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>>> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> writes:
>>> 
Herbert> does it makes sense? needs package eurosym, which is the
>> only
Herbert> one with the "official" symbol.
>> Doesn't it work out of the box with latin0?


Herbert> I don't really understand what you mean.

Herbert> It doesn't belongs to any latinX.def Herbert

I see the following line in iso-8859-15.cdef (aka latin9 aka latin0):
164 "\texteuro{}"   # with package "eurofont"

Isn't it what we are looking for?

I agree that it would be nice to have the euro sign for other
encodings too, but it is probably not a good idea to create a new
inset just for that. There are plenty of characters that are not in
latin1 and that would interest me (like \oe, \OE...), but having an
inset for each is overkill. The 'right' way to handle that would be to
improve the insetlatexaccent to understand these.

JMarc




Re: euro as special character

2002-01-04 Thread Herbert Voss

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

> I see the following line in iso-8859-15.cdef (aka latin9 aka latin0):
> 164   "\texteuro{}"   # with package "eurofont"
> 
> Isn't it what we are looking for?


sure. But can you get it run??


> I agree that it would be nice to have the euro sign for other
> encodings too, but it is probably not a good idea to create a new
> inset just for that. There are plenty of characters that are not in
> latin1 and that would interest me (like \oe, \OE...), but having an
> inset for each is overkill. The 'right' way to handle that would be to
> improve the insetlatexaccent to understand these.


I want to have an EuroSign and I have it.

You are tralking again about what should happened and what
will not happened ...

Herbert



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http://www.lyx.org/help/