Finalize the translation of the LyX 2.3 series
Hello, Some parts of the 2.3 documentation manuals remain untranslated in French: 1/ in section 6.5.2 of the UserGuide, the biblatex documentation; 2/ in section 7.2 of the Additional manual, the subsections about CVS, SVN and GIT; 3/ a few paragraphs in section 7.3 of the same manual; 4/ sections 5.3.13 and 5.3.14 of the Customization manual, and a few paragraphs about citengine. 2/ remains untranslated from the beginning, as users of these feature mots probably read English. 3/ and 4/ are not a big deal. The main sections that I would like to get translated in the 2.3 documentation before tackling the 2.4 manuals is 1/. I thus intend to translate in 2.3 and copy the translations in 2.4, as I understand that the 2.4 manuals have been edited to include the new functionalities. Is it the right way to proceed? -- lyx-docs mailing list lyx-docs@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-docs
Re: Finalize the translation of the LyX 2.3 series
Am Sonntag, den 14.06.2020, 10:17 +0200 schrieb Jean-Pierre Chrétien: > Is it the right way to proceed? Generally yes. You should also check the tracked changes in the English docs, though. There are quote some changes as compared to 2.3.x. Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-docs mailing list lyx-docs@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-docs
Re: Finalize the translation of the LyX 2.3 series
Le 14/06/2020 à 11:25, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Am Sonntag, den 14.06.2020, 10:17 +0200 schrieb Jean-Pierre Chrétien: Is it the right way to proceed? Generally yes. You should also check the tracked changes in the English docs, though. There are quote some changes as compared to 2.3.x. Sure, I have seen the numerous improvements made. But as I understand, it is now up to me to check the changes in the English docs and report them in the French manual (currently, there are only a few differences between e.g. the UserGuide versions in 2.3.x and master), so the path to follow is * update the 2.3.x docs; * load the docs with 2.4.0dev to insure conversion; * save and commit the new docs in master; * check for changes in the English version (they are marked as change tracking, right ?) and import them in the 2.4.x French docs; * translate. Thanks for your help -- Jean-Pierre -- lyx-docs mailing list lyx-docs@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-docs
Re: Finalize the translation of the LyX 2.3 series
Am Sonntag, den 14.06.2020, 11:37 +0200 schrieb Jean-Pierre Chrétien: > Sure, I have seen the numerous improvements made. But as I > understand, it is now up to me to check the changes in the English > docs and report them in the French manual (currently, there are only > a few differences between e.g. the UserGuide versions in 2.3.x and > master), so the path to follow is > > * update the 2.3.x docs; > > * load the docs with 2.4.0dev to insure conversion; > > * save and commit the new docs in master; > > * check for changes in the English version (they are marked as > change tracking, right ?) Yes. > and import them in the 2.4.x French docs; > > * translate. Yes. Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-docs mailing list lyx-docs@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-docs
Re: Finalize the translation of the LyX 2.3 series
Le 14/06/2020 à 11:48, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Am Sonntag, den 14.06.2020, 11:37 +0200 schrieb Jean-Pierre Chrétien: Sure, I have seen the numerous improvements made. But as I understand, it is now up to me to check the changes in the English docs and report them in the French manual (currently, there are only a few differences between e.g. the UserGuide versions in 2.3.x and master), so the path to follow is * update the 2.3.x docs; * load the docs with 2.4.0dev to insure conversion; * save and commit the new docs in master; * check for changes in the English version (they are marked as change tracking, right ?) Yes. BTW, is there a way to use the advanced search to detect text in English language (when I am in a French doc, of course). -- Jean-Pierre -- lyx-docs mailing list lyx-docs@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-docs
Re: Finalize the translation of the LyX 2.3 series
Am Sonntag, den 14.06.2020, 15:12 +0200 schrieb Jean-Pierre Chrétien: > BTW, is there a way to use the advanced search to detect text in > English language (when I am in a French doc, of course). None that I'm aware of (language seems to be ignored generally AFAICS) Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-docs mailing list lyx-docs@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-docs
Re: Finalize the translation of the LyX 2.3 series
Am Sun, 14 Jun 2020 15:41:12 +0200 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller : > Am Sonntag, den 14.06.2020, 15:12 +0200 schrieb Jean-Pierre Chrétien: > > BTW, is there a way to use the advanced search to detect text in > > English language (when I am in a French doc, of course). > > None that I'm aware of (language seems to be ignored generally AFAICS) > > Jürgen YES. If using lyx2.4. You have to specify English in the search buffer. Kornel pgpjkL2O1mvZ3.pgp Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP -- lyx-docs mailing list lyx-docs@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-docs
Re: Finalize the translation of the LyX 2.3 series
Am Sonntag, den 14.06.2020, 18:00 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko: > YES. If using lyx2.4. You have to specify English in the search > buffer. Interesting. This did not work for me (with English and using a regexp). Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-docs mailing list lyx-docs@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-docs
Re: Finalize the translation of the LyX 2.3 series
Am Sun, 14 Jun 2020 18:17:32 +0200 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller : > Am Sonntag, den 14.06.2020, 18:00 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko: > > YES. If using lyx2.4. You have to specify English in the search > > buffer. > > Interesting. This did not work for me (with English and using a > regexp). > > Jürgen Format search enabled? Kornel pgp9257Zfcw0i.pgp Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP -- lyx-docs mailing list lyx-docs@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-docs
Re: Finalize the translation of the LyX 2.3 series
Am Sonntag, den 14.06.2020, 18:49 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko: > Format search enabled? OK, it works with this. Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-docs mailing list lyx-docs@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-docs
Re: Finalize the translation of the LyX 2.3 series
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 07:07:22PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 14.06.2020, 18:49 +0200 schrieb Kornel Benko: > > Format search enabled? > > OK, it works with this. Works here also with 2.4dev, not with 2.3.x. That's a cool usage of advanced find. Good idea Jean-Pierre for thinking to try it, and thanks Kornel for that improvement! A couple of issues that make the workflow not so smooth for translation purposes: 1. I tested with the User Guide. Since we have keybindings marked as English language, the search (correctly) found those as well, even though those are not desired since even in the French manual I guess (probably for some technical LaTeX issue?) they're supposed to stay in English. 2. It would be nice if the buffer in advanced find copied the available languages, so that we can just go to Edit > Language > English instead of having to add English as a new language. If I remember correctly, we used to use track changes for the documents. That is, all of the text that needed translation was marked as changed. Did we move away from that workflow? From the translator perspective, it seems easier to navigate tracked changes. Scott signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- lyx-docs mailing list lyx-docs@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-docs