Re: crash on opening document
gdb ./lyx (gdb) run [load the file] ...crash... (gdb) bt JMarc Hello, maybe it should be a problem having xforms-0.88 installed instead of a 0.89 version !? Did you try to run LyX with 0.89-3, runs fine here without any gotchas on RH7.2 box Thomas
problem with pdf and pdflatex
Hi all, (LyX 1.2.0, Mandrake 8.2) I have a problem with pdflatex and some pdf created from epstopdf. I'm writing my PhD thesis and I choose to use pdflatex in order to have a readable pdf in acrobat (so the thesis can be put on the web). Unfortunately, I have hit a wall with the insertion of some eps created by matlab. If I insert the eps, I cannot use pdflatex (of course), but if I insert the pdf instead, the resulting image is 2 black and white and distorted. If I use the eps and generate the pdf the old way, everything is okay, but I loose the 2 advantages of pdflatex (acrobat readable on screen and smaller file size). I've set a web page where you can get two such eps and pdf. the eps is 95KiB while the pdf is only around 8KiB. http://olivier.ripoll.free.fr/lyx/pdf_latex.html The only way I have found is to use png or jpg images, but this exploses the size of the pdf. I also think some conversion done by lyx uses png and also result in a size bloat of the pdf. I've tried to generate eps level 1 and two from matlab. I also did eps from Igrafx Designer. I did cycle eps-pdf-ps-eps-pdf and many others way around but cannot get something working. Has someone got an idea? Thanks in advance. Olivier. (to reproduce the problem, take the eps, generate a pdf with epstopdf or take the pdf, and then do a lyx file with one of them. render with pdflatex and old pdf way)
importing tex resolved
Thanks Rem and Andre, it was my fault all along: I created the directory in which the tex files were stored while logged on as root, so I didn't have write permission. I did say I was new to Linux. Sorry to waste your time. I will continue writing my thesis with lyx. thanks Struan
Re: problem with pdf and pdflatex
Olivier Ripoll wrote: Hi all, (LyX 1.2.0, Mandrake 8.2) a few details about mandrake 8.2 pdftex is contained in tetex-1.0.7-44mdk.i586.rpm whose detailss can be found here: http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/mandrake/8.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/tetex-1.0.7-44mdk.i586.html here is a listing from a ftp site of packages that are found in this distro [ ] ghostscript-6.53-10m.. 13-Mar-2002 22:26 7.3M [ ] ghostscript-fonts-5... 13-Mar-2002 22:26 806k [ ] ghostscript-module-S.. 13-Mar-2002 22:2624k [ ] ghostscript-module-X.. 13-Mar-2002 22:2648k [ ] tetex-1.0.7-44mdk.i5.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 20.5M [ ] tetex-afm-1.0.7-44md.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 724k [ ] tetex-doc-1.0.7-44md.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 21.4M [ ] tetex-dvilj-1.0.7-44.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 195k [ ] tetex-dvipdfm-1.0.7-.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 184k [ ] tetex-dvips-1.0.7-44.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 373k [ ] tetex-latex-1.0.7-44.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 3.3M [ ] tetex-latex-arab-3.0.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 850k [ ] tetex-latex-heb-1.0-.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 297k [ ] tetex-xdvi-1.0.7-44m.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 644k [ ] texinfo-4.0-22mdk.i5.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 533k [ ] textutils-2.0.17-7md.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 363k Best regards, Olivier.
Re: importing tex resolved
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 09:58:41AM +0200, Struan Cockcroft wrote: Sorry to waste your time. No problem. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
Including Documents - Multiple stage include
Hello all, I'm planning to use lyx 1.2.0 for a complicated report. Thus I wanted to separate it into different chapters which will be included from a main document (document class koma-script book). The chapters itself will consist of texts and tables. The tables are likeliy to change often during the drafting process. So I wanted to include the tables also as external files (automatically generated from csv-files) into the chapter documents. So I inserted into the main document: ... \layout Standard \begin_inset Include \input{FrageA1.lyx} \end_inset ... and into FrageA1.lyx ... \layout Standard \begin_inset Include \input{a1.1.lyx} \end_inset Following a discussion on lyx-users I sylinked all files into a build directory. Unfortunately I can't get this setup working within lyx. After starting the postscript preview I got a Latex Errors: cannot find a.1.tex cannot read from terminal in nonstop mode. whereas the manual route - exporting main.lyx as latex - latex main.tex works o.k. My error or LyX Bug / feature? Second Question: Is it possible to give tables a title without a float environment. The Table should be listed in the List of Tables. As far as I understood longtables (i.e. more than one page) do not fit into a float environment. TNX in advance -- Dr. Joachim Heidemeier Tel. +49-30-8903-2780 Fachgebiet II 3.2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Umweltbundesamt, Bismarckplatz 1 D-14191 Berlin
Re: Including Documents - Multiple stage include
Dr. Joachim Heidemeier wrote: I'm planning to use lyx 1.2.0 for a complicated report. Thus I wanted to separate it into different chapters which will be included from a main document (document class koma-script book). The chapters itself will consist of texts and tables. The tables are likeliy to change often during the drafting process. So I wanted to include the tables also as external files (automatically generated from csv-files) into the chapter documents. So I inserted into the main document: look at http://www.lyx.org/help/misc/IncludeInput.php Second Question: Is it possible to give tables a title without a float environment. The Table should be listed in the List of Tables. As far as I understood longtables (i.e. more than one page) do not fit into a float environment. http://www.lyx.org/help/floats/nonFloat.php3 or use package nonfloats Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: problem with pdf and pdflatex
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 09:54:50AM +0200, Olivier Ripoll wrote: I have a problem with pdflatex and some pdf created from epstopdf. I'm writing my PhD thesis and I choose to use pdflatex in order to have a readable pdf in acrobat (so the thesis can be put on the web). Unfortunately, I have hit a wall with the insertion of some eps created by matlab. If I insert the eps, I cannot use pdflatex (of course), but if I insert the pdf instead, the resulting image is 2 black and white and distorted. You probably have an old version of pdftex. Check you version with pdftex -v. If your version is 3.14159-0.13 or 0.14 then it is broken. If I use the eps and generate the pdf the old way, everything is okay, but I loose the 2 advantages of pdflatex (acrobat readable on screen and smaller file size). It is very easy to create good PDF without pdflatex (either with ps2pdf or dvipdfm). RTFM (Extended.lyx).
Re: problem with pdf and pdflatex
Dekel Tsur wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 09:54:50AM +0200, Olivier Ripoll wrote: I have a problem with pdflatex and some pdf created from epstopdf. I'm writing my PhD thesis and I choose to use pdflatex in order to have a readable pdf in acrobat (so the thesis can be put on the web). Unfortunately, I have hit a wall with the insertion of some eps created by matlab. If I insert the eps, I cannot use pdflatex (of course), but if I insert the pdf instead, the resulting image is 2 black and white and distorted. You probably have an old version of pdftex. Check you version with pdftex -v. If your version is 3.14159-0.13 or 0.14 then it is broken. I've just asked Mandrake maintainer about the version number (I don't have access to my machine at present) and he told me 0.13d (tetex 1.0.7) He packaged new rpms with 1.00b-pretest but they are unsupported. I'll test them as soon as I have access to the machine and report the results here. Anyway, from pdftex mailing list archives, version 0.14 should be okay. It seems 0.13 had the problem http://tug.org/mailman/htdig/pdftex/2001-March/000559.html http://tug.org/mailman/htdig/pdftex/2001-September/001572.html If I use the eps and generate the pdf the old way, everything is okay, but I loose the 2 advantages of pdflatex (acrobat readable on screen and smaller file size). It is very easy to create good PDF without pdflatex (either with ps2pdf or dvipdfm). big and fuzzy RTFM (Extended.lyx). I have not only read the FM - many times actually, and also lyxTips (lyx.org/help) pages and http://www.nd.edu/~lisa/mrobert2/makingpdf.html http://web.gat.com/diag/pci/ltx2pdf.html http://tex2pdf.berlios.de/ And the global conclusion is: use pdflatex. word and acrobat distiller have been able to provide a small and acrobat-readable pdf (this is needed to have them available on the internet). The others have pdfs that are several MiB and look fuzzy. I'd like to prove that word can be beaten by LyX as PhD thesis writing tool. I'm sure here everyone would like me to succeed :) Best regards, Olivier.
Re: problem with pdf and pdflatex
Olivier Ripoll wrote: word and acrobat distiller have been able to provide a small and acrobat-readable pdf (this is needed to have them available on the internet). The others have pdfs that are several MiB and look fuzzy. I'd like to prove that word can be beaten by LyX as PhD thesis writing tool. I'm sure here everyone would like me to succeed :) This beginning of the sentence dissapeared here. It was Among my collegues that generated their thesis as pdf, only the ones using... word and acrobat etc. Sincerely, Olivier.
Re: [applemac]{inputenc}(a wish)
Jacobo == Jacobo Myerston [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jacobo I have a wish for future versions of LyX: support for mac Jacobo encoding. That would make easier postprocessing latex files Jacobo generated in LyX in OSX. -- But is there a corresponding X font for displaying these files correctly in OSX under X window? JMarc
unofficial 1.2.0 deb package
I have just packaged, for personal use, the latest lyx release 1.2.0 on i686 hardware platform and debian/unstable system ( libc6 = 2.2.4-4 and libforms0.88 are required ). It can be retrieved at the url http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0_1.deb It is just one of my first attempts to build that deb package, so please let me know if you will find it useful cheers -- Paolo Pumilia
Re: unofficial 1.2.0 deb package
El mié, 17-07-2002 a las 08:41, Desktop Crew escribió: I have just packaged, for personal use, the latest lyx release 1.2.0 on i686 hardware platform and debian/unstable system ( libc6 = 2.2.4-4 and libforms0.88 are required ). It can be retrieved at the url http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0_1.deb The URL is wrong. It is: http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0-1_i386.deb -- German Poo Caaman~o mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ubiobio.cl/~gpoo/chilelindo.html «Hay 10 tipos de personas: las que entienden binario y las que no.»
Re: unofficial 1.2.0 deb package
From German Poo Caaman~o, Wed Jul 17, at 8:58: .El mi?, 17-07-2002 a las 08:41, Desktop Crew escribi?: . I have just packaged, for personal use, the latest lyx release 1.2.0 . on i686 hardware platform and debian/unstable system . ( libc6 = 2.2.4-4 and libforms0.88 are required ). . . It can be retrieved at the url . http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0_1.deb . .The URL is wrong. It is: .http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0-1_i386.deb . .-- sorry -- Paolo
Re: - Second Release -uno fficial 1.2.0 deb packages
It can be retrieved at the url http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0-2_i386.deb -- Paolo Pumilia .
seminar.layout doesn't work as expected
Since lyx-1.1.6-fix (AFAIR) I've been having some problems with seminar.layout. I defined frames on my slides, but now one slide appears with frame and empty, the second one appears with text (without frame), etc. If I export the file to TeX it looks like: -- \begin{slide*} \end{slide*} \slideheading{Otro texto} \slidesubheading{Subtexto} Texto -- It's wrong. I used to use the same lyx files before without problem. I attach a sample. If you to see how is expected, you can see any file from http://cronos.dci.ubiobio.cl/docs/sd/pdf/ (except sockets.pdf). -- German Poo Caaman~o mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ubiobio.cl/~gpoo/chilelindo.html «Hay 10 tipos de personas: las que entienden binario y las que no.» #LyX 1.2 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/ \lyxformat 220 \textclass seminar \begin_preamble \usepackage[dvips]{pstcol} \usepackage{semcolor} \input{seminar.bug} \usepackage{fancybox} \centerslidesfalse \def\Titulo{Sistemas Distribuidos / Universidad del Bío--Bío} \def\FrameDerecha{Hola} \def\FrameIzquierda{\emph{Relator: Germán Poo Caamaño}} \newcommand{\titledframe}[2]{% \boxput*(0,1){\psframebox[fillcolor=white,fillstyle=solid,framearc=.3]{{#1}}}% {\psframebox[framesep=12pt]{#2}}} \pslongbox{miFrame}{\psframebox[framearc=0.1]} \newslideframe{test2}{\boxput*(0,1){\psframebox[fillcolor=white,fillstyle=solid,framearc=.3]{2}}% {\miFrame {#1} \endmiFrame}} \newslideframe{Titulo}{% \boxput*(0,1){% \psframebox[fillcolor=white,fillstyle=solid,framearc=.3]{\tiny \Titulo}}% {#1}% } \newslideframe{FooterRight}{ \boxput*(0.82,-1){ \makebox[0cm][r]{ \psframebox[fillcolor=white,fillstyle=solid,framearc=.3]{\tiny Página \theslide} } } {#1} } \newslideframe{FooterLeft}{% \boxput*(-0.82,-1){% \makebox[0cm][l]{% \psframebox[fillcolor=white,fillstyle=solid,framearc=.3]{\tiny \FrameIzquierda}% }% }% {#1}% } \slideframe*{Titulo} \slideframe*{FooterRight} \slideframe*{FooterLeft} \slidepagestyle{empty} \end_preamble \options slidesec,portrait \language spanish \inputencoding auto \fontscheme pslatex \graphics default \paperfontsize default \spacing single \papersize Default \paperpackage a4 \use_geometry 0 \use_amsmath 0 \use_natbib 0 \use_numerical_citations 0 \paperorientation portrait \secnumdepth 3 \tocdepth 3 \paragraph_separation indent \defskip medskip \quotes_language english \quotes_times 2 \papercolumns 1 \papersides 1 \paperpagestyle default \bullet 1 0 15 -1 \end_bullet \bullet 2 4 20 -1 \end_bullet \layout PortraitSlide \layout SlideHeading Slide heading \layout SlideSubHeading Texto \layout Standard Texto estándar \layout PortraitSlide \layout SlideHeading Otro texto \layout SlideSubHeading Subtexto \layout Standard Texto \the_end
Mathmode
there is a first edition of the new mathstuff in LyX 1.2.x I suppose, it has more typos than a dog loice http://www.perce.de/lyx/equations120.pdf Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: Mathmode
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 06:56:35PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: there is a first edition of the new mathstuff in LyX 1.2.x Not bad. You must have been busy... Note that we have some basic support for multline. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
A question about Protected Blanks
Is there a way to mass-select a paragraph and make the whole of it a 'Description' header properly, with protected blanks replacing normal spaces, or do I have no choice but to replace them one-at-a-time? Please send reply to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Thanks.
Re: Viewing images in lyx1.2: Loading images blocks UI
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, John Levon wrote: background, too, so I was very disappointed to see that, on the contrary, image loading is done in foreground now. This is the reason I still prefer 1.1.6. Image loading is not done in the foreground... Ok, I guess I'm not in a position to argue about this with you, but what I observe strongly ressembles a foreground process. Let me be more specific: When the place an image is to be displayed in appears on the screen for the first time, image conversion and display is triggered. The empty box representing the image initially contains a message like converting to loadable format. Image conversion is done in the background, that is, the user interface is not affected by the running process. Moving the cursor, scrolling the canvas and opening menus works as usual. Once the image conversion is done, the image is loaded. During this (rather rapid) process, the information given in the box changes to Loading image..., and then Loaded. Scaling etc These processes seem to be done in the foreground in the sense that the user interface is completely blocked. Displacing the cursor, scrolling the canvas, opening menus, useage of dialog boxes etc is delayed until the image is loaded. The events that piled up are executed once the image appeared on the canvas. On my box (AMD K6II-266), loading takes up to a second, depending on the images. Even worse, when scrolling rapidly across a document with many images, lots of conversions are triggered. When images start to be available for loading, loading takes longer because load is high, and the sum of all the events makes for an appreciable blackout of UI availability. I hope this clarifies what I said. I might also add that in lyx 1.1 I never observed ANY lag in UI response correlated with image loading. Jan
A question about 'Description'
Is there a way to mass select a sentence and make it a 'Description' with 'protected blanks' replacing spaces in the sentence, avoiding a line break? Or do I have to replace the spaces all one-at-a-time?
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, John Levon wrote: By default a converter PNG-EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS-PS converter, Lyx then converted PNG-EPS-PS and failed to load the image (see previous message). So I removed the PNG-EPS converter, so that the PNG-XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. lyx -dbg graphics shows that lyx converts PNG-XPM-EPS-PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm directly and does so, if I delete the EPS-PS converter. This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd. You must have made a mistake somewhere, I think. I just tested 1.2.1cvs and it converted my png to xpm directly, and loaded it via the xforms image loader Do you have a xpm-eps converter defined? I don't remember why I defined that, but that is not the point. My point was that I would expect the shortest route to be chosen. Here is the output of lyx -dbg graphics for the case I mentioned: Attempting to convert image file: ~/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png with recognised extension: png. Scanstring: PNG Recognised Fileformat: png Scanstring: PNG Recognised Fileformat: png The file contains png format data. The image loader can load the following directly: Windows/OS2 BMP file, extension bmp NASA/NOST FITS, extension fits CompuServ GIF, extension gif JPEG/JFIF format, extension jpg Portable Pixmap, extension ppm Portable Graymap, extension pgm Portable Bitmap, extension pbm PostScript, extension ps SGI Iris, extension sgi Tag Image File Format, extension tif X11 Bitmap, extension xbm X Window Dump, extension xwd XPM format, extension xpm Of these, LyX recognises the following formats: gif, jpg, ps, xpm Converting it to ps format. Conversion script: #!/bin/sh infile='/home/jan/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png' infile_base='/home/jan/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone' outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.xpm' convert ${infile} ${outfile} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then 'rm' -f ${outfile} exit 1 fi if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then 'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile} 'rm' -f ${outfile}.? else exit 1 fi fi infile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.xpm' infile_base='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm' outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.eps' convert ${infile} ${outfile} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then 'rm' -f ${outfile} exit 1 fi if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then 'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile} 'rm' -f ${outfile}.? else exit 1 fi fi 'rm' -f ${infile} infile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.eps' infile_base='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm' outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.ps' gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -sOutputFile=${outfile} ${infile} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then 'rm' -f ${outfile} exit 1 fi if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then 'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile} 'rm' -f ${outfile}.? else exit 1 fi fi 'rm' -f ${infile} fromfile=${outfile} tofile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/chap1_neurone17752eXed55.ps' 'mv' -f ${fromfile} ${tofile} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then 'cp' -f ${fromfile} ${tofile} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then exit 1 fi 'rm' -f ${fromfile} fi Image conversion succeeded. Loading image. xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! Image loading failed. xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
Jan Warnking wrote: On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, John Levon wrote: By default a converter PNG-EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS-PS converter, Lyx then converted PNG-EPS-PS and failed to load the image (see previous message). So I removed the PNG-EPS converter, so that the PNG-XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. lyx -dbg graphics shows that lyx converts PNG-XPM-EPS-PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm directly and does so, if I delete the EPS-PS converter. This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd. You must have made a mistake somewhere, I think. I just tested 1.2.1cvs and it converted my png to xpm directly, and loaded it via the xforms image loader Do you have a xpm-eps converter defined? I don't remember why I defined that, but that is not the point. My point was that I would expect the shortest route to be chosen. Here is the output of lyx -dbg graphics for the case I mentioned: Attempting to convert image file: ~/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png with recognised extension: png. Scanstring: PNG Recognised Fileformat: png [...] Converting it to ps format. [..] Image conversion succeeded. Loading image. xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! Image loading failed. xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading the ps-support of xforms flimage seems to be buggy, that's the problem. disable it http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/src/frontends/xforms/xformsImage.C?r1=1.4r2=1.5 Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: A question about 'Description'
Doug Innes wrote: Is there a way to mass select a sentence and make it a 'Description' with 'protected blanks' replacing spaces in the sentence, avoiding a line break? Or do I have to replace the spaces all one-at-a-time? it's not possible from inside lyx, use any other primitive editor, if it's important. but you have to change a blank into the command sequence of a protected space. Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Formatting a document
Hi, I have some problems using the Preambule in Lyx 1.1.6fix3b. It seems that commands I've added in the preambule are not taken into account during compilation of the document. I'd like to use the fancy package and customize the header and footer of a document which should be a two sided paper. So I defined some newcommand (for the chapters for example \newcommand{\mychapstyle}{...) but these definitions are not considered. If someone as any suggestion... Thank's! __ Jean-Philippe LAUFFENBURGER Ecole Supérieure des Sciences Appliquées à l'ingénieur Mulhouse Laboratoire MIPS / Equipe MIAM 12 rue des frères Lumière 68093 Mulhouse Cedex Tél : +33.3.89.33.69.13 Fax : +33.3.89.33.69.49 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] __
Re: crash on opening document
gdb ./lyx (gdb) run [load the file] ...crash... (gdb) bt JMarc Hello, maybe it should be a problem having xforms-0.88 installed instead of a 0.89 version !? Did you try to run LyX with 0.89-3, runs fine here without any gotchas on RH7.2 box Thomas
problem with pdf and pdflatex
Hi all, (LyX 1.2.0, Mandrake 8.2) I have a problem with pdflatex and some pdf created from epstopdf. I'm writing my PhD thesis and I choose to use pdflatex in order to have a readable pdf in acrobat (so the thesis can be put on the web). Unfortunately, I have hit a wall with the insertion of some eps created by matlab. If I insert the eps, I cannot use pdflatex (of course), but if I insert the pdf instead, the resulting image is 2 black and white and distorted. If I use the eps and generate the pdf the old way, everything is okay, but I loose the 2 advantages of pdflatex (acrobat readable on screen and smaller file size). I've set a web page where you can get two such eps and pdf. the eps is 95KiB while the pdf is only around 8KiB. http://olivier.ripoll.free.fr/lyx/pdf_latex.html The only way I have found is to use png or jpg images, but this exploses the size of the pdf. I also think some conversion done by lyx uses png and also result in a size bloat of the pdf. I've tried to generate eps level 1 and two from matlab. I also did eps from Igrafx Designer. I did cycle eps-pdf-ps-eps-pdf and many others way around but cannot get something working. Has someone got an idea? Thanks in advance. Olivier. (to reproduce the problem, take the eps, generate a pdf with epstopdf or take the pdf, and then do a lyx file with one of them. render with pdflatex and old pdf way)
importing tex resolved
Thanks Rem and Andre, it was my fault all along: I created the directory in which the tex files were stored while logged on as root, so I didn't have write permission. I did say I was new to Linux. Sorry to waste your time. I will continue writing my thesis with lyx. thanks Struan
Re: problem with pdf and pdflatex
Olivier Ripoll wrote: Hi all, (LyX 1.2.0, Mandrake 8.2) a few details about mandrake 8.2 pdftex is contained in tetex-1.0.7-44mdk.i586.rpm whose detailss can be found here: http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/mandrake/8.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/tetex-1.0.7-44mdk.i586.html here is a listing from a ftp site of packages that are found in this distro [ ] ghostscript-6.53-10m.. 13-Mar-2002 22:26 7.3M [ ] ghostscript-fonts-5... 13-Mar-2002 22:26 806k [ ] ghostscript-module-S.. 13-Mar-2002 22:2624k [ ] ghostscript-module-X.. 13-Mar-2002 22:2648k [ ] tetex-1.0.7-44mdk.i5.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 20.5M [ ] tetex-afm-1.0.7-44md.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 724k [ ] tetex-doc-1.0.7-44md.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 21.4M [ ] tetex-dvilj-1.0.7-44.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 195k [ ] tetex-dvipdfm-1.0.7-.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 184k [ ] tetex-dvips-1.0.7-44.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 373k [ ] tetex-latex-1.0.7-44.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 3.3M [ ] tetex-latex-arab-3.0.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 850k [ ] tetex-latex-heb-1.0-.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 297k [ ] tetex-xdvi-1.0.7-44m.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 644k [ ] texinfo-4.0-22mdk.i5.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 533k [ ] textutils-2.0.17-7md.. 13-Mar-2002 22:50 363k Best regards, Olivier.
Re: importing tex resolved
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 09:58:41AM +0200, Struan Cockcroft wrote: Sorry to waste your time. No problem. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
Including Documents - Multiple stage include
Hello all, I'm planning to use lyx 1.2.0 for a complicated report. Thus I wanted to separate it into different chapters which will be included from a main document (document class koma-script book). The chapters itself will consist of texts and tables. The tables are likeliy to change often during the drafting process. So I wanted to include the tables also as external files (automatically generated from csv-files) into the chapter documents. So I inserted into the main document: ... \layout Standard \begin_inset Include \input{FrageA1.lyx} \end_inset ... and into FrageA1.lyx ... \layout Standard \begin_inset Include \input{a1.1.lyx} \end_inset Following a discussion on lyx-users I sylinked all files into a build directory. Unfortunately I can't get this setup working within lyx. After starting the postscript preview I got a Latex Errors: cannot find a.1.tex cannot read from terminal in nonstop mode. whereas the manual route - exporting main.lyx as latex - latex main.tex works o.k. My error or LyX Bug / feature? Second Question: Is it possible to give tables a title without a float environment. The Table should be listed in the List of Tables. As far as I understood longtables (i.e. more than one page) do not fit into a float environment. TNX in advance -- Dr. Joachim Heidemeier Tel. +49-30-8903-2780 Fachgebiet II 3.2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Umweltbundesamt, Bismarckplatz 1 D-14191 Berlin
Re: Including Documents - Multiple stage include
Dr. Joachim Heidemeier wrote: I'm planning to use lyx 1.2.0 for a complicated report. Thus I wanted to separate it into different chapters which will be included from a main document (document class koma-script book). The chapters itself will consist of texts and tables. The tables are likeliy to change often during the drafting process. So I wanted to include the tables also as external files (automatically generated from csv-files) into the chapter documents. So I inserted into the main document: look at http://www.lyx.org/help/misc/IncludeInput.php Second Question: Is it possible to give tables a title without a float environment. The Table should be listed in the List of Tables. As far as I understood longtables (i.e. more than one page) do not fit into a float environment. http://www.lyx.org/help/floats/nonFloat.php3 or use package nonfloats Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: problem with pdf and pdflatex
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 09:54:50AM +0200, Olivier Ripoll wrote: I have a problem with pdflatex and some pdf created from epstopdf. I'm writing my PhD thesis and I choose to use pdflatex in order to have a readable pdf in acrobat (so the thesis can be put on the web). Unfortunately, I have hit a wall with the insertion of some eps created by matlab. If I insert the eps, I cannot use pdflatex (of course), but if I insert the pdf instead, the resulting image is 2 black and white and distorted. You probably have an old version of pdftex. Check you version with pdftex -v. If your version is 3.14159-0.13 or 0.14 then it is broken. If I use the eps and generate the pdf the old way, everything is okay, but I loose the 2 advantages of pdflatex (acrobat readable on screen and smaller file size). It is very easy to create good PDF without pdflatex (either with ps2pdf or dvipdfm). RTFM (Extended.lyx).
Re: problem with pdf and pdflatex
Dekel Tsur wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 09:54:50AM +0200, Olivier Ripoll wrote: I have a problem with pdflatex and some pdf created from epstopdf. I'm writing my PhD thesis and I choose to use pdflatex in order to have a readable pdf in acrobat (so the thesis can be put on the web). Unfortunately, I have hit a wall with the insertion of some eps created by matlab. If I insert the eps, I cannot use pdflatex (of course), but if I insert the pdf instead, the resulting image is 2 black and white and distorted. You probably have an old version of pdftex. Check you version with pdftex -v. If your version is 3.14159-0.13 or 0.14 then it is broken. I've just asked Mandrake maintainer about the version number (I don't have access to my machine at present) and he told me 0.13d (tetex 1.0.7) He packaged new rpms with 1.00b-pretest but they are unsupported. I'll test them as soon as I have access to the machine and report the results here. Anyway, from pdftex mailing list archives, version 0.14 should be okay. It seems 0.13 had the problem http://tug.org/mailman/htdig/pdftex/2001-March/000559.html http://tug.org/mailman/htdig/pdftex/2001-September/001572.html If I use the eps and generate the pdf the old way, everything is okay, but I loose the 2 advantages of pdflatex (acrobat readable on screen and smaller file size). It is very easy to create good PDF without pdflatex (either with ps2pdf or dvipdfm). big and fuzzy RTFM (Extended.lyx). I have not only read the FM - many times actually, and also lyxTips (lyx.org/help) pages and http://www.nd.edu/~lisa/mrobert2/makingpdf.html http://web.gat.com/diag/pci/ltx2pdf.html http://tex2pdf.berlios.de/ And the global conclusion is: use pdflatex. word and acrobat distiller have been able to provide a small and acrobat-readable pdf (this is needed to have them available on the internet). The others have pdfs that are several MiB and look fuzzy. I'd like to prove that word can be beaten by LyX as PhD thesis writing tool. I'm sure here everyone would like me to succeed :) Best regards, Olivier.
Re: problem with pdf and pdflatex
Olivier Ripoll wrote: word and acrobat distiller have been able to provide a small and acrobat-readable pdf (this is needed to have them available on the internet). The others have pdfs that are several MiB and look fuzzy. I'd like to prove that word can be beaten by LyX as PhD thesis writing tool. I'm sure here everyone would like me to succeed :) This beginning of the sentence dissapeared here. It was Among my collegues that generated their thesis as pdf, only the ones using... word and acrobat etc. Sincerely, Olivier.
Re: [applemac]{inputenc}(a wish)
Jacobo == Jacobo Myerston [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jacobo I have a wish for future versions of LyX: support for mac Jacobo encoding. That would make easier postprocessing latex files Jacobo generated in LyX in OSX. -- But is there a corresponding X font for displaying these files correctly in OSX under X window? JMarc
unofficial 1.2.0 deb package
I have just packaged, for personal use, the latest lyx release 1.2.0 on i686 hardware platform and debian/unstable system ( libc6 = 2.2.4-4 and libforms0.88 are required ). It can be retrieved at the url http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0_1.deb It is just one of my first attempts to build that deb package, so please let me know if you will find it useful cheers -- Paolo Pumilia
Re: unofficial 1.2.0 deb package
El mié, 17-07-2002 a las 08:41, Desktop Crew escribió: I have just packaged, for personal use, the latest lyx release 1.2.0 on i686 hardware platform and debian/unstable system ( libc6 = 2.2.4-4 and libforms0.88 are required ). It can be retrieved at the url http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0_1.deb The URL is wrong. It is: http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0-1_i386.deb -- German Poo Caaman~o mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ubiobio.cl/~gpoo/chilelindo.html «Hay 10 tipos de personas: las que entienden binario y las que no.»
Re: unofficial 1.2.0 deb package
From German Poo Caaman~o, Wed Jul 17, at 8:58: .El mi?, 17-07-2002 a las 08:41, Desktop Crew escribi?: . I have just packaged, for personal use, the latest lyx release 1.2.0 . on i686 hardware platform and debian/unstable system . ( libc6 = 2.2.4-4 and libforms0.88 are required ). . . It can be retrieved at the url . http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0_1.deb . .The URL is wrong. It is: .http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0-1_i386.deb . .-- sorry -- Paolo
Re: - Second Release -uno fficial 1.2.0 deb packages
It can be retrieved at the url http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0-2_i386.deb -- Paolo Pumilia .
seminar.layout doesn't work as expected
Since lyx-1.1.6-fix (AFAIR) I've been having some problems with seminar.layout. I defined frames on my slides, but now one slide appears with frame and empty, the second one appears with text (without frame), etc. If I export the file to TeX it looks like: -- \begin{slide*} \end{slide*} \slideheading{Otro texto} \slidesubheading{Subtexto} Texto -- It's wrong. I used to use the same lyx files before without problem. I attach a sample. If you to see how is expected, you can see any file from http://cronos.dci.ubiobio.cl/docs/sd/pdf/ (except sockets.pdf). -- German Poo Caaman~o mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ubiobio.cl/~gpoo/chilelindo.html «Hay 10 tipos de personas: las que entienden binario y las que no.» #LyX 1.2 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/ \lyxformat 220 \textclass seminar \begin_preamble \usepackage[dvips]{pstcol} \usepackage{semcolor} \input{seminar.bug} \usepackage{fancybox} \centerslidesfalse \def\Titulo{Sistemas Distribuidos / Universidad del Bío--Bío} \def\FrameDerecha{Hola} \def\FrameIzquierda{\emph{Relator: Germán Poo Caamaño}} \newcommand{\titledframe}[2]{% \boxput*(0,1){\psframebox[fillcolor=white,fillstyle=solid,framearc=.3]{{#1}}}% {\psframebox[framesep=12pt]{#2}}} \pslongbox{miFrame}{\psframebox[framearc=0.1]} \newslideframe{test2}{\boxput*(0,1){\psframebox[fillcolor=white,fillstyle=solid,framearc=.3]{2}}% {\miFrame {#1} \endmiFrame}} \newslideframe{Titulo}{% \boxput*(0,1){% \psframebox[fillcolor=white,fillstyle=solid,framearc=.3]{\tiny \Titulo}}% {#1}% } \newslideframe{FooterRight}{ \boxput*(0.82,-1){ \makebox[0cm][r]{ \psframebox[fillcolor=white,fillstyle=solid,framearc=.3]{\tiny Página \theslide} } } {#1} } \newslideframe{FooterLeft}{% \boxput*(-0.82,-1){% \makebox[0cm][l]{% \psframebox[fillcolor=white,fillstyle=solid,framearc=.3]{\tiny \FrameIzquierda}% }% }% {#1}% } \slideframe*{Titulo} \slideframe*{FooterRight} \slideframe*{FooterLeft} \slidepagestyle{empty} \end_preamble \options slidesec,portrait \language spanish \inputencoding auto \fontscheme pslatex \graphics default \paperfontsize default \spacing single \papersize Default \paperpackage a4 \use_geometry 0 \use_amsmath 0 \use_natbib 0 \use_numerical_citations 0 \paperorientation portrait \secnumdepth 3 \tocdepth 3 \paragraph_separation indent \defskip medskip \quotes_language english \quotes_times 2 \papercolumns 1 \papersides 1 \paperpagestyle default \bullet 1 0 15 -1 \end_bullet \bullet 2 4 20 -1 \end_bullet \layout PortraitSlide \layout SlideHeading Slide heading \layout SlideSubHeading Texto \layout Standard Texto estándar \layout PortraitSlide \layout SlideHeading Otro texto \layout SlideSubHeading Subtexto \layout Standard Texto \the_end
Mathmode
there is a first edition of the new mathstuff in LyX 1.2.x I suppose, it has more typos than a dog loice http://www.perce.de/lyx/equations120.pdf Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: Mathmode
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 06:56:35PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: there is a first edition of the new mathstuff in LyX 1.2.x Not bad. You must have been busy... Note that we have some basic support for multline. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
A question about Protected Blanks
Is there a way to mass-select a paragraph and make the whole of it a 'Description' header properly, with protected blanks replacing normal spaces, or do I have no choice but to replace them one-at-a-time? Please send reply to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Thanks.
Re: Viewing images in lyx1.2: Loading images blocks UI
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, John Levon wrote: background, too, so I was very disappointed to see that, on the contrary, image loading is done in foreground now. This is the reason I still prefer 1.1.6. Image loading is not done in the foreground... Ok, I guess I'm not in a position to argue about this with you, but what I observe strongly ressembles a foreground process. Let me be more specific: When the place an image is to be displayed in appears on the screen for the first time, image conversion and display is triggered. The empty box representing the image initially contains a message like converting to loadable format. Image conversion is done in the background, that is, the user interface is not affected by the running process. Moving the cursor, scrolling the canvas and opening menus works as usual. Once the image conversion is done, the image is loaded. During this (rather rapid) process, the information given in the box changes to Loading image..., and then Loaded. Scaling etc These processes seem to be done in the foreground in the sense that the user interface is completely blocked. Displacing the cursor, scrolling the canvas, opening menus, useage of dialog boxes etc is delayed until the image is loaded. The events that piled up are executed once the image appeared on the canvas. On my box (AMD K6II-266), loading takes up to a second, depending on the images. Even worse, when scrolling rapidly across a document with many images, lots of conversions are triggered. When images start to be available for loading, loading takes longer because load is high, and the sum of all the events makes for an appreciable blackout of UI availability. I hope this clarifies what I said. I might also add that in lyx 1.1 I never observed ANY lag in UI response correlated with image loading. Jan
A question about 'Description'
Is there a way to mass select a sentence and make it a 'Description' with 'protected blanks' replacing spaces in the sentence, avoiding a line break? Or do I have to replace the spaces all one-at-a-time?
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, John Levon wrote: By default a converter PNG-EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS-PS converter, Lyx then converted PNG-EPS-PS and failed to load the image (see previous message). So I removed the PNG-EPS converter, so that the PNG-XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. lyx -dbg graphics shows that lyx converts PNG-XPM-EPS-PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm directly and does so, if I delete the EPS-PS converter. This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd. You must have made a mistake somewhere, I think. I just tested 1.2.1cvs and it converted my png to xpm directly, and loaded it via the xforms image loader Do you have a xpm-eps converter defined? I don't remember why I defined that, but that is not the point. My point was that I would expect the shortest route to be chosen. Here is the output of lyx -dbg graphics for the case I mentioned: Attempting to convert image file: ~/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png with recognised extension: png. Scanstring: PNG Recognised Fileformat: png Scanstring: PNG Recognised Fileformat: png The file contains png format data. The image loader can load the following directly: Windows/OS2 BMP file, extension bmp NASA/NOST FITS, extension fits CompuServ GIF, extension gif JPEG/JFIF format, extension jpg Portable Pixmap, extension ppm Portable Graymap, extension pgm Portable Bitmap, extension pbm PostScript, extension ps SGI Iris, extension sgi Tag Image File Format, extension tif X11 Bitmap, extension xbm X Window Dump, extension xwd XPM format, extension xpm Of these, LyX recognises the following formats: gif, jpg, ps, xpm Converting it to ps format. Conversion script: #!/bin/sh infile='/home/jan/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png' infile_base='/home/jan/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone' outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.xpm' convert ${infile} ${outfile} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then 'rm' -f ${outfile} exit 1 fi if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then 'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile} 'rm' -f ${outfile}.? else exit 1 fi fi infile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.xpm' infile_base='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm' outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.eps' convert ${infile} ${outfile} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then 'rm' -f ${outfile} exit 1 fi if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then 'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile} 'rm' -f ${outfile}.? else exit 1 fi fi 'rm' -f ${infile} infile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.eps' infile_base='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm' outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.ps' gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -sOutputFile=${outfile} ${infile} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then 'rm' -f ${outfile} exit 1 fi if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then 'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile} 'rm' -f ${outfile}.? else exit 1 fi fi 'rm' -f ${infile} fromfile=${outfile} tofile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/chap1_neurone17752eXed55.ps' 'mv' -f ${fromfile} ${tofile} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then 'cp' -f ${fromfile} ${tofile} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then exit 1 fi 'rm' -f ${fromfile} fi Image conversion succeeded. Loading image. xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! Image loading failed. xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
Jan Warnking wrote: On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, John Levon wrote: By default a converter PNG-EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS-PS converter, Lyx then converted PNG-EPS-PS and failed to load the image (see previous message). So I removed the PNG-EPS converter, so that the PNG-XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. lyx -dbg graphics shows that lyx converts PNG-XPM-EPS-PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm directly and does so, if I delete the EPS-PS converter. This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd. You must have made a mistake somewhere, I think. I just tested 1.2.1cvs and it converted my png to xpm directly, and loaded it via the xforms image loader Do you have a xpm-eps converter defined? I don't remember why I defined that, but that is not the point. My point was that I would expect the shortest route to be chosen. Here is the output of lyx -dbg graphics for the case I mentioned: Attempting to convert image file: ~/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png with recognised extension: png. Scanstring: PNG Recognised Fileformat: png [...] Converting it to ps format. [..] Image conversion succeeded. Loading image. xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! Image loading failed. xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading the ps-support of xforms flimage seems to be buggy, that's the problem. disable it http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/src/frontends/xforms/xformsImage.C?r1=1.4r2=1.5 Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: A question about 'Description'
Doug Innes wrote: Is there a way to mass select a sentence and make it a 'Description' with 'protected blanks' replacing spaces in the sentence, avoiding a line break? Or do I have to replace the spaces all one-at-a-time? it's not possible from inside lyx, use any other primitive editor, if it's important. but you have to change a blank into the command sequence of a protected space. Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Formatting a document
Hi, I have some problems using the Preambule in Lyx 1.1.6fix3b. It seems that commands I've added in the preambule are not taken into account during compilation of the document. I'd like to use the fancy package and customize the header and footer of a document which should be a two sided paper. So I defined some newcommand (for the chapters for example \newcommand{\mychapstyle}{...) but these definitions are not considered. If someone as any suggestion... Thank's! __ Jean-Philippe LAUFFENBURGER Ecole Supérieure des Sciences Appliquées à l'ingénieur Mulhouse Laboratoire MIPS / Equipe MIAM 12 rue des frères Lumière 68093 Mulhouse Cedex Tél : +33.3.89.33.69.13 Fax : +33.3.89.33.69.49 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] __
Re: crash on opening document
>>gdb ./lyx >>(gdb) run >>[load the file] >>...crash... >>(gdb) bt >> >>JMarc >> >> > Hello, maybe it should be a problem having xforms-0.88 installed instead of a 0.89 version !? Did you try to run LyX with 0.89-3, runs fine here without any gotchas on RH7.2 box Thomas
problem with pdf and pdflatex
Hi all, (LyX 1.2.0, Mandrake 8.2) I have a problem with pdflatex and some pdf created from epstopdf. I'm writing my PhD thesis and I choose to use pdflatex in order to have a readable pdf in acrobat (so the thesis can be put on the web). Unfortunately, I have hit a wall with the insertion of some eps created by matlab. If I insert the eps, I cannot use pdflatex (of course), but if I insert the pdf instead, the resulting image is 2 black and white and distorted. If I use the eps and generate the pdf the old way, everything is okay, but I loose the 2 advantages of pdflatex (acrobat readable on screen and smaller file size). I've set a web page where you can get two such eps and pdf. the eps is 95KiB while the pdf is only around 8KiB. http://olivier.ripoll.free.fr/lyx/pdf_latex.html The only way I have found is to use png or jpg images, but this exploses the size of the pdf. I also think some conversion done by lyx uses png and also result in a size bloat of the pdf. I've tried to generate eps level 1 and two from matlab. I also did eps from Igrafx Designer. I did cycle eps->pdf->ps->eps->pdf and many others way around but cannot get something working. Has someone got an idea? Thanks in advance. Olivier. (to reproduce the problem, take the eps, generate a pdf with epstopdf or take the pdf, and then do a lyx file with one of them. render with pdflatex and old pdf way)
importing tex resolved
Thanks Rem and Andre, it was my fault all along: I created the directory in which the tex files were stored while logged on as root, so I didn't have write permission. I did say I was new to Linux. Sorry to waste your time. I will continue writing my thesis with lyx. thanks Struan
Re: problem with pdf and pdflatex
Olivier Ripoll wrote: > Hi all, > (LyX 1.2.0, Mandrake 8.2) a few details about mandrake 8.2 pdftex is contained in tetex-1.0.7-44mdk.i586.rpm whose detailss can be found here: http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/mandrake/8.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/tetex-1.0.7-44mdk.i586.html here is a listing from a ftp site of packages that are found in this distro [ ] ghostscript-6.53-10m..> 13-Mar-2002 22:26 7.3M [ ] ghostscript-fonts-5...> 13-Mar-2002 22:26 806k [ ] ghostscript-module-S..> 13-Mar-2002 22:2624k [ ] ghostscript-module-X..> 13-Mar-2002 22:2648k [ ] tetex-1.0.7-44mdk.i5..> 13-Mar-2002 22:50 20.5M [ ] tetex-afm-1.0.7-44md..> 13-Mar-2002 22:50 724k [ ] tetex-doc-1.0.7-44md..> 13-Mar-2002 22:50 21.4M [ ] tetex-dvilj-1.0.7-44..> 13-Mar-2002 22:50 195k [ ] tetex-dvipdfm-1.0.7-..> 13-Mar-2002 22:50 184k [ ] tetex-dvips-1.0.7-44..> 13-Mar-2002 22:50 373k [ ] tetex-latex-1.0.7-44..> 13-Mar-2002 22:50 3.3M [ ] tetex-latex-arab-3.0..> 13-Mar-2002 22:50 850k [ ] tetex-latex-heb-1.0-..> 13-Mar-2002 22:50 297k [ ] tetex-xdvi-1.0.7-44m..> 13-Mar-2002 22:50 644k [ ] texinfo-4.0-22mdk.i5..> 13-Mar-2002 22:50 533k [ ] textutils-2.0.17-7md..> 13-Mar-2002 22:50 363k Best regards, Olivier.
Re: importing tex resolved
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 09:58:41AM +0200, Struan Cockcroft wrote: > Sorry to waste your time. No problem. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
Including Documents - Multiple stage include
Hello all, I'm planning to use lyx 1.2.0 for a complicated report. Thus I wanted to separate it into different chapters which will be included from a main document (document class koma-script book). The chapters itself will consist of texts and tables. The tables are likeliy to change often during the drafting process. So I wanted to include the tables also as external files (automatically generated from csv-files) into the chapter documents. So I inserted into the main document: ... \layout Standard \begin_inset Include \input{FrageA1.lyx} \end_inset ... and into FrageA1.lyx ... \layout Standard \begin_inset Include \input{a1.1.lyx} \end_inset Following a discussion on lyx-users I sylinked all files into a build directory. Unfortunately I can't get this setup working within lyx. After starting the postscript preview I got a Latex Errors: cannot find a.1.tex cannot read from terminal in nonstop mode. whereas the "manual route" - exporting main.lyx as latex - latex main.tex works o.k. My error or LyX Bug / feature? Second Question: Is it possible to give tables a title without a float environment. The Table should be listed in the List of Tables. As far as I understood longtables (i.e. more than one page) do not fit into a float environment. TNX in advance -- Dr. Joachim Heidemeier Tel. +49-30-8903-2780 Fachgebiet II 3.2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Umweltbundesamt, Bismarckplatz 1 D-14191 Berlin
Re: Including Documents - Multiple stage include
Dr. Joachim Heidemeier wrote: > I'm planning to use lyx 1.2.0 for a complicated report. Thus I wanted to > separate it into different chapters which will be included from a main > document (document class koma-script book). > The chapters itself will consist of texts and tables. The tables are > likeliy to change often during the drafting process. So I wanted to > include the tables also as external files (automatically generated > from csv-files) into the chapter documents. > So I inserted into the main document: look at http://www.lyx.org/help/misc/IncludeInput.php > Second Question: > Is it possible to give tables a title without a float environment. The > Table should be listed in the List of Tables. As far > as I understood longtables (i.e. more than one page) do not fit into a > float environment. http://www.lyx.org/help/floats/nonFloat.php3 or use package nonfloats Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: problem with pdf and pdflatex
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 09:54:50AM +0200, Olivier Ripoll wrote: > I have a problem with pdflatex and some pdf created from epstopdf. > I'm writing my PhD thesis and I choose to use pdflatex in order to have > a readable pdf in acrobat (so the thesis can be put on the web). > Unfortunately, I have hit a wall with the insertion of some eps created > by matlab. If I insert the eps, I cannot use pdflatex (of course), but > if I insert the pdf instead, the resulting image is 2 black and white > and distorted. You probably have an old version of pdftex. Check you version with pdftex -v. If your version is 3.14159-0.13 or 0.14 then it is broken. > If I use the eps and generate the pdf the old way, everything is okay, > but I loose the 2 advantages of pdflatex (acrobat readable on screen and > smaller file size). It is very easy to create "good" PDF without pdflatex (either with ps2pdf or dvipdfm). RTFM (Extended.lyx).
Re: problem with pdf and pdflatex
Dekel Tsur wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 09:54:50AM +0200, Olivier Ripoll wrote: > > I have a problem with pdflatex and some pdf created from epstopdf. > > I'm writing my PhD thesis and I choose to use pdflatex in order to have > > a readable pdf in acrobat (so the thesis can be put on the web). > > Unfortunately, I have hit a wall with the insertion of some eps created > > by matlab. If I insert the eps, I cannot use pdflatex (of course), but > > if I insert the pdf instead, the resulting image is 2 black and white > > and distorted. > > You probably have an old version of pdftex. Check you version with > pdftex -v. > If your version is 3.14159-0.13 or 0.14 then it is broken. I've just asked Mandrake maintainer about the version number (I don't have access to my machine at present) and he told me 0.13d (tetex 1.0.7) He packaged new rpms with 1.00b-pretest but they are unsupported. I'll test them as soon as I have access to the machine and report the results here. Anyway, from pdftex mailing list archives, version 0.14 should be okay. It seems 0.13 had the problem http://tug.org/mailman/htdig/pdftex/2001-March/000559.html http://tug.org/mailman/htdig/pdftex/2001-September/001572.html > > If I use the eps and generate the pdf the old way, everything is okay, > > but I loose the 2 advantages of pdflatex (acrobat readable on screen and > > smaller file size). > > It is very easy to create "good" PDF without pdflatex > (either with ps2pdf or dvipdfm). big and fuzzy > RTFM (Extended.lyx). I have not only read the FM - many times actually, and also lyxTips (lyx.org/help) pages and http://www.nd.edu/~lisa/mrobert2/makingpdf.html http://web.gat.com/diag/pci/ltx2pdf.html http://tex2pdf.berlios.de/ And the global conclusion is: use pdflatex. word and acrobat distiller have been able to provide a small and acrobat-readable pdf (this is needed to have them available on the internet). The others have pdfs that are several MiB and look fuzzy. I'd like to prove that word can be beaten by LyX as PhD thesis writing tool. I'm sure here everyone would like me to succeed :) Best regards, Olivier.
Re: problem with pdf and pdflatex
Olivier Ripoll wrote: > word and acrobat distiller have been able to provide a small and > acrobat-readable pdf (this is needed to have them available on the internet). > The others have pdfs that are several MiB and look fuzzy. I'd like to prove > that word can be beaten by LyX as PhD thesis writing tool. I'm sure here > everyone would like me to succeed :) > This beginning of the sentence dissapeared here. It was "Among my collegues that generated their thesis as pdf, only the ones using..." word and acrobat etc. Sincerely, Olivier.
Re: [applemac]{inputenc}(a wish)
> "Jacobo" == Jacobo Myerston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jacobo> I have a wish for future versions of LyX: support for mac Jacobo> encoding. That would make easier postprocessing latex files Jacobo> generated in LyX in OSX. -- But is there a corresponding X font for displaying these files correctly in OSX under X window? JMarc
unofficial 1.2.0 deb package
I have just packaged, for personal use, the latest lyx release 1.2.0 on i686 hardware platform and debian/unstable system ( libc6 >= 2.2.4-4 and libforms0.88 are required ). It can be retrieved at the url http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0_1.deb It is just one of my first attempts to build that deb package, so please let me know if you will find it useful cheers -- Paolo Pumilia
Re: unofficial 1.2.0 deb package
El mié, 17-07-2002 a las 08:41, Desktop Crew escribió: > I have just packaged, for personal use, the latest lyx release 1.2.0 > on i686 hardware platform and debian/unstable system > ( libc6 >= 2.2.4-4 and libforms0.88 are required ). > > It can be retrieved at the url > http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0_1.deb The URL is wrong. It is: http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0-1_i386.deb -- German Poo Caaman~o mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ubiobio.cl/~gpoo/chilelindo.html «Hay 10 tipos de personas: las que entienden binario y las que no.»
Re: unofficial 1.2.0 deb package
>From German Poo Caaman~o, Wed Jul 17, at 8:58: .El mi?, 17-07-2002 a las 08:41, Desktop Crew escribi?: .> I have just packaged, for personal use, the latest lyx release 1.2.0 .> on i686 hardware platform and debian/unstable system .> ( libc6 >= 2.2.4-4 and libforms0.88 are required ). .> .> It can be retrieved at the url .> http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0_1.deb . .The URL is wrong. It is: .http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0-1_i386.deb . .-- sorry -- Paolo
Re: - Second Release -uno fficial 1.2.0 deb packages
It can be retrieved at the url http://linfe.it/OpenLab/Software/DebianPackages/unstable/contrib/lyx_1.2.0-2_i386.deb -- Paolo Pumilia .
seminar.layout doesn't work as expected
Since lyx-1.1.6-fix (AFAIR) I've been having some problems with seminar.layout. I defined frames on my slides, but now one slide appears with frame and empty, the second one appears with text (without frame), etc. If I export the file to TeX it looks like: -- \begin{slide*} \end{slide*} \slideheading{Otro texto} \slidesubheading{Subtexto} Texto -- It's wrong. I used to use the same lyx files before without problem. I attach a sample. If you to see how is expected, you can see any file from http://cronos.dci.ubiobio.cl/docs/sd/pdf/ (except sockets.pdf). -- German Poo Caaman~o mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ubiobio.cl/~gpoo/chilelindo.html «Hay 10 tipos de personas: las que entienden binario y las que no.» #LyX 1.2 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/ \lyxformat 220 \textclass seminar \begin_preamble \usepackage[dvips]{pstcol} \usepackage{semcolor} \input{seminar.bug} \usepackage{fancybox} \centerslidesfalse \def\Titulo{Sistemas Distribuidos / Universidad del Bío--Bío} \def\FrameDerecha{Hola} \def\FrameIzquierda{\emph{Relator: Germán Poo Caamaño}} \newcommand{\titledframe}[2]{% \boxput*(0,1){\psframebox[fillcolor=white,fillstyle=solid,framearc=.3]{{#1}}}% {\psframebox[framesep=12pt]{#2}}} \pslongbox{miFrame}{\psframebox[framearc=0.1]} \newslideframe{test2}{\boxput*(0,1){\psframebox[fillcolor=white,fillstyle=solid,framearc=.3]{2}}% {\miFrame {#1} \endmiFrame}} \newslideframe{Titulo}{% \boxput*(0,1){% \psframebox[fillcolor=white,fillstyle=solid,framearc=.3]{\tiny \Titulo}}% {#1}% } \newslideframe{FooterRight}{ \boxput*(0.82,-1){ \makebox[0cm][r]{ \psframebox[fillcolor=white,fillstyle=solid,framearc=.3]{\tiny Página \theslide} } } {#1} } \newslideframe{FooterLeft}{% \boxput*(-0.82,-1){% \makebox[0cm][l]{% \psframebox[fillcolor=white,fillstyle=solid,framearc=.3]{\tiny \FrameIzquierda}% }% }% {#1}% } \slideframe*{Titulo} \slideframe*{FooterRight} \slideframe*{FooterLeft} \slidepagestyle{empty} \end_preamble \options slidesec,portrait \language spanish \inputencoding auto \fontscheme pslatex \graphics default \paperfontsize default \spacing single \papersize Default \paperpackage a4 \use_geometry 0 \use_amsmath 0 \use_natbib 0 \use_numerical_citations 0 \paperorientation portrait \secnumdepth 3 \tocdepth 3 \paragraph_separation indent \defskip medskip \quotes_language english \quotes_times 2 \papercolumns 1 \papersides 1 \paperpagestyle default \bullet 1 0 15 -1 \end_bullet \bullet 2 4 20 -1 \end_bullet \layout PortraitSlide \layout SlideHeading Slide heading \layout SlideSubHeading Texto \layout Standard Texto estándar \layout PortraitSlide \layout SlideHeading Otro texto \layout SlideSubHeading Subtexto \layout Standard Texto \the_end
Mathmode
there is a first edition of the new mathstuff in LyX 1.2.x I suppose, it has more typos than a dog loice http://www.perce.de/lyx/equations120.pdf Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: Mathmode
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 06:56:35PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: > there is a first edition of the new mathstuff in LyX 1.2.x Not bad. You must have been busy... Note that we have some basic support for multline. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
A question about Protected Blanks
Is there a way to mass-select a paragraph and make the whole of it a 'Description' header properly, with protected blanks replacing normal spaces, or do I have no choice but to replace them one-at-a-time? Please send reply to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Thanks.
Re: Viewing images in lyx1.2: Loading images blocks UI
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, John Levon wrote: > > background, too, so I was very disappointed to see that, on the contrary, > > image loading is done in foreground now. This is the reason I still prefer > > 1.1.6. > > Image loading is not done in the foreground... Ok, I guess I'm not in a position to argue about this with you, but what I observe strongly ressembles a foreground process. Let me be more specific: When the place an image is to be displayed in appears on the screen for the first time, image conversion and display is triggered. The empty box representing the image initially contains a message like "converting to loadable format". Image conversion is done in the background, that is, the user interface is not affected by the running process. Moving the cursor, scrolling the canvas and opening menus works as usual. Once the image conversion is done, the image is loaded. During this (rather rapid) process, the information given in the box changes to "Loading image...", and then "Loaded. Scaling etc...". These processes seem to be done in the foreground in the sense that the user interface is completely blocked. Displacing the cursor, scrolling the canvas, opening menus, useage of dialog boxes etc is delayed until the image is loaded. The events that piled up are executed once the image appeared on the canvas. On my box (AMD K6II-266), loading takes up to a second, depending on the images. Even worse, when scrolling rapidly across a document with many images, lots of conversions are triggered. When images start to be available for loading, loading takes longer because load is high, and the sum of all the events makes for an appreciable blackout of UI availability. I hope this clarifies what I said. I might also add that in lyx 1.1 I never observed ANY lag in UI response correlated with image loading. Jan
A question about 'Description'
Is there a way to mass select a sentence and make it a 'Description' with 'protected blanks' replacing spaces in the sentence, avoiding a line break? Or do I have to replace the spaces all one-at-a-time?
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, John Levon wrote: > > By default a converter PNG->EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS->PS > > converter, Lyx then converted PNG->EPS->PS and failed to load the image > > (see previous message). So I removed the PNG->EPS converter, so that the > > PNG->XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. "lyx -dbg > > graphics" shows that lyx converts PNG->XPM->EPS->PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm > > directly and does so, if I delete the EPS->PS converter. > > This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work > > around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd. > > You must have made a mistake somewhere, I think. I just tested 1.2.1cvs > and it converted my png to xpm directly, and loaded it via the xforms > image loader Do you have a xpm->eps converter defined? I don't remember why I defined that, but that is not the point. My point was that I would expect the shortest route to be chosen. Here is the output of lyx -dbg graphics for the case I mentioned: Attempting to convert image file: ~/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png with recognised extension: png. Scanstring: PNG Recognised Fileformat: png Scanstring: PNG Recognised Fileformat: png The file contains png format data. The image loader can load the following directly: Windows/OS2 BMP file, extension "bmp" NASA/NOST FITS, extension "fits" CompuServ GIF, extension "gif" JPEG/JFIF format, extension "jpg" Portable Pixmap, extension "ppm" Portable Graymap, extension "pgm" Portable Bitmap, extension "pbm" PostScript, extension "ps" SGI Iris, extension "sgi" Tag Image File Format, extension "tif" X11 Bitmap, extension "xbm" X Window Dump, extension "xwd" XPM format, extension "xpm" Of these, LyX recognises the following formats: gif, jpg, ps, xpm Converting it to ps format. Conversion script: #!/bin/sh infile='/home/jan/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png' infile_base='/home/jan/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone' outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.xpm' convert ${infile} ${outfile} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then 'rm' -f ${outfile} exit 1 fi if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then 'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile} 'rm' -f ${outfile}.? else exit 1 fi fi infile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.xpm' infile_base='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm' outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.eps' convert ${infile} ${outfile} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then 'rm' -f ${outfile} exit 1 fi if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then 'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile} 'rm' -f ${outfile}.? else exit 1 fi fi 'rm' -f ${infile} infile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.eps' infile_base='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm' outfile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/gconvert0177523rZhgm.ps' gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -sOutputFile=${outfile} ${infile} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then 'rm' -f ${outfile} exit 1 fi if [ ! -f ${outfile} ]; then if [ -f ${outfile}.0 ]; then 'mv' -f ${outfile}.0 ${outfile} 'rm' -f ${outfile}.? else exit 1 fi fi 'rm' -f ${infile} fromfile=${outfile} tofile='/tmp/lyx_tmpdir17752l8QsWP/chap1_neurone17752eXed55.ps' 'mv' -f ${fromfile} ${tofile} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then 'cp' -f ${fromfile} ${tofile} if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then exit 1 fi 'rm' -f ${fromfile} fi Image conversion succeeded. Loading image. xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! Image loading failed. xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading
Re: Viewing images in lyx-1.2: Choice of the converter to use
Jan Warnking wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, John Levon wrote: > >>>By default a converter PNG->EPS is defined. Since I defined an EPS->PS >>>converter, Lyx then converted PNG->EPS->PS and failed to load the image >>>(see previous message). So I removed the PNG->EPS converter, so that the >>>PNG->XPM get used. However, the images still didn't get loaded. "lyx -dbg >>>graphics" shows that lyx converts PNG->XPM->EPS->PS! Lyx _can_ load xpm >>>directly and does so, if I delete the EPS->PS converter. >>>This is minor once one knows what happens. There are always ways to work >>>around this, defining only the right converters. But it still seems odd. >>> >>You must have made a mistake somewhere, I think. I just tested 1.2.1cvs >>and it converted my png to xpm directly, and loaded it via the xforms >>image loader >> > > Do you have a xpm->eps converter defined? I don't remember why I defined > that, but that is not the point. My point was that I would expect the > shortest route to be chosen. > Here is the output of lyx -dbg graphics for the case I mentioned: > Attempting to convert image file: ~/lyxdocs/these/images/chap1_neurone.png > with recognised extension: png. > Scanstring: PNG > Recognised Fileformat: png [...] > Converting it to ps format. [..] > Image conversion succeeded. > Loading image. > xforms image loader. Status : Converting PS ... > xforms image loader. Status : Loading PostScript > xforms image loader. Error : LoadPS: no page written! > Image loading failed. > xforms image loader. Status : Error Reading the ps-support of xforms flimage seems to be buggy, that's the problem. disable it http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/src/frontends/xforms/xformsImage.C?r1=1.4=1.5 Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: A question about 'Description'
Doug Innes wrote: > Is there a way to mass select a sentence and make it a 'Description' with > 'protected blanks' replacing spaces in the sentence, avoiding a line break? > Or do I have to replace the spaces all one-at-a-time? it's not possible from inside lyx, use any other primitive editor, if it's important. but you have to change a blank into the command sequence of a protected space. Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Formatting a document
Hi, I have some problems using the Preambule in Lyx 1.1.6fix3b. It seems that commands I've added in the preambule are not taken into account during compilation of the document. I'd like to use the fancy package and customize the header and footer of a document which should be a two sided paper. So I defined some newcommand (for the chapters for example \newcommand{\mychapstyle}{...) but these definitions are not considered. If someone as any suggestion... Thank's! __ Jean-Philippe LAUFFENBURGER Ecole Supérieure des Sciences Appliquées à l'ingénieur Mulhouse Laboratoire MIPS / Equipe MIAM 12 rue des frères Lumière 68093 Mulhouse Cedex Tél : +33.3.89.33.69.13 Fax : +33.3.89.33.69.49 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] __