Re: Environment Depth question..

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Pierre Marc Dumuid wrote:
 I have to:
 a) choose enumerate
 b) Type Non-words and press enter
 c) click the Increase environment depth icon in the toolbar
 d) Type fooblog
 e) click the Increase environment depth icon in the toolbar
 f) Type lyxlog
 g) click the Increase environment depth icon in the toolbar
 h) Type laughter
 i) Type test and press enter

 I really find steps (e) and (g) REALLY annoying.  I'd rather it stayed
 at that environment depth when I press return, and have a  decrease
 envionment depth option.

Alt-Return.

Jürgen

Re: problem with hyphenation of underlined text

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Angus Leeming wrote:
  But might there be a way that LyX (1.3.5) can take advantage of soul.sty
  automatically (without any ERT on my part)?

 Nope.

But you can put
\let\underbar\ul
in preamble, then LyX's undeline will use soul's \ul.

Jürgen

Re: problem with hyphenation of underlined text

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Juergen Spitzmueller writes:
 \let\underbar\ul
 in preamble, then LyX's undeline will use soul's \ul.

Yes, this seems to be exactly what I was looking for.

Using the soul package and this command means I no longer have to 
individually deal with LyX's problem in hyphenating underlined words. 
Perhaps this could be added as a check-box option (like use AMS Math) 
to the packages tab in the Document menu under Layout -- unless in the 
new version it already has been.

Many thanks!

-K

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: Compiling LyX 1.3.6 with qt

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Luqman == Luqman H [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Luqman thanks it works... i'm just have tobe patient for very long
Luqman compiling.. btw, is it a bug? or it only happen to my
Luqman machine..?

By default, Qt has some compatibility code between its own strings
(QString) and C++ standard strings (std::string). Some linux
distributions chose to disable this code (which is not a bad idea),
and this produces compilation errors. We now build LyX without the
compatibility code enabled, so that the problem should not happen
again.

JMarc

Re: Spellchecker - possible bug??

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Geoffrey == Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Geoffrey Hi When using the spell checker with words in quotation
Geoffrey marks it always flags up the last word as incorrectly spelt

Geoffrey e.g. Here is a good sentence with quotes.

Geoffrey it will flag up sentence

Geoffrey Is this a bug or just the fact that, possibly rightly, it
Geoffrey doesn't like the use of quotes in standard text.

Geoffrey BTW the quotes are entered using two ' marks rather than 
Geoffrey directly.

We always consider ' as being part of a word for spell-checking. We
should improve that by ignoring ' when it is at the beginning/end of a
word. This is on my virtual todo list.

JMarc

Re: suppressing the use of amsmath package with kyx 1.3.6

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Micha == Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Micha Is it possible to suppress the use of the amsmath package with
Micha lyx 1.3.6 even when relevant commands such as split are used?

Micha I have a problem that when using amsmath and hebrew in the same
Micha document. babel has to be used before amsmath or else the split
Micha environment can not be used. 

Unfortunately, it is difficult to work around this problem, since it
happens only with hebrew. Loading amsmath after babel will probably
create problems with packages that have to be loaded after amsmath...

In LyX 1.4.0, it will be possible to avoid loading of amsmath altogether.

Micha Lyx 1.3.4 didn't try to be too smart and didn't include amsmath
Micha if the amsmath checkbox wasn't checked. 

It already had such code for some ams constructs. What we did in 1.3.6
was to add the array constructs that had been forgotten previously.

Micha Lyx 1.3.6 tries to be smart but includes things in the wrong
Micha order which makes it impossible to compile the document without
Micha messing with the tex file directly.
 
In an ideal world, it would be up to babel/hebrew and amsmath authors
to solve the problem. I found some messages from you at the linux-il
mailing list about this problem. Could you summarize what the
situation and prospects are? 

JMarc

footnotes in table not appearing

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Hi all,

Just as the end of the tunnel finally is in sight, one more (last?) 
little problem has got me stuck.

I've got two small tables that contain footnote references. The correct 
reference numbers appear in the dvi output, but the footnotes 
themselves (and numbers) at the bottom of the page are omitted.

If the table contains a reference to footnote 92, at the bottom of the 
page you might see:

91 - a footnote
93 - another footnote

Any suggestions on what might be wrong or a workaround?

Many thanks (as always),

-K


-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: footnotes in table not appearing

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:
 I've got two small tables that contain footnote references. The correct
 reference numbers appear in the dvi output, but the footnotes
 themselves (and numbers) at the bottom of the page are omitted.


A LaTeX restriction, see
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab

Jürgen

Re: footnotes in table not appearing

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Juergen Spitzmueller writes:
 Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:
  I've got two small tables that contain footnote references. The
  correct reference numbers appear in the dvi output, but the
  footnotes themselves (and numbers) at the bottom of the page are
  omitted.

 A LaTeX restriction, see
 http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab

Thanks for the tip. The long list of solutions seemed rather dire, but 
in the middle there was this very simple suggestion: Use tabularx or 
longtable from the LaTeX tools distribution; they're noticeably less 
efficient than the standard tabular environment, but they do allow 
footnotes.

longtable sounded familiar to my LyX-ears. And it worked when I 
checked Use long table  in LyX's Tabular menu.


-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Help!- Windows/Linux .lyx file compatability

[Rik Aspinall]

Hi there,
I've been working on linux and have started using another computer which
uses windows. So I have downloaded the latest versions of the packages
(as of 6 sept 2005) and I'm using:
Lyx 1.3.6-1 for windows
OS=Win 200 Pro

Packages downloaded were:
ActivePerl 5.8.7.813
Python 2.4.1
ImageMagick6.2.4 Q16
MSYS
MikTEX 
Aspell 0.50-3
Ghostscript 8.51
 
Anyway the issue is that my math won't display properly. That is, the
math that I write is correct in terms of its latex content, but is
displayed in lyx's editor wrongly.
For example the command \prod will produce a nicely typeset big pi for
the product symbol, yet when displayed in lyx it appears as Q. I have
checked for ams packages and they seem to be there.
 
If you know how to fix this, could you send an email to me
([EMAIL PROTECTED])?
Thanks,
Rik 

Re: Help!- Windows/Linux .lyx file compatability

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

I imagine you output looks fine and this is a problem with display only.

Have you installed the Maths fonts (Bakoma)?

These help Lyx display math properly.

It is on the wiki http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136 under maths fonts

Geoff


- Original Message - 
From: Rik Aspinall [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 5:43 PM
Subject: Help!- Windows/Linux .lyx file compatability



Hi there,
I've been working on linux and have started using another computer which
uses windows. So I have downloaded the latest versions of the packages
(as of 6 sept 2005) and I'm using:
Lyx 1.3.6-1 for windows
OS=Win 200 Pro

Packages downloaded were:
ActivePerl 5.8.7.813
Python 2.4.1
ImageMagick6.2.4 Q16
MSYS
MikTEX 
Aspell 0.50-3

Ghostscript 8.51

Anyway the issue is that my math won't display properly. That is, the
math that I write is correct in terms of its latex content, but is
displayed in lyx's editor wrongly.
For example the command \prod will produce a nicely typeset big pi for
the product symbol, yet when displayed in lyx it appears as Q. I have
checked for ams packages and they seem to be there.

If you know how to fix this, could you send an email to me
([EMAIL PROTECTED])?
Thanks,
Rik 

How to change size of math screen fonts?

[Rudi Gaelzer]

Hi.  I'm using LyX 1.3.6 on Fedora 4.
Is to possible to change the size of math screen fonts?
If I go to Edit - Preferences - Screen fonts 
I only get something changing the Zoom %.  Changing the Screen DPI has no 
effect.  Moreover, it only changes the text fonts, leaving the math fonts 
always with the same size.
-- 
Rudi Gaelzer
Departament of Physics
Physics and Mathematics Institute
Federal University of Pelotas
Caixa Postal 354 - Campus UFPel
96010-900 Pelotas - RS
BRAZIL
Phone: +55-53-275-7468
FAX: +55-53-275-7343
Registered Linux user # 153741

Re: how to share BibTeX references across platforms

[David Soukal]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
If your advisor has installed (or is willing to install) the MinSYS 
system (subsystem? package? whatever), you can use symbolic links.  I 
believe MinSYS is mandatory for LyX 1.3.6 and later on Windows.


 From MinSYS's interactive shell, you create the link pretty much as you 
would on Linux, other than to remember that the C: drive is /c in 
MinSYS.  So, for instance, you would use


ln -s /c/papers/bibliography ./ref

on her machine.  Alternatively, you can do the same thing from a DOS 
command prompt, by providing the path to ln if necessary, for instance


C:\Program Files\msys\1.0\bin\ln.exe -s /c/papers/bibliography ./ref

(assuming the default installation location).

I've tried it here (Win XP) and it seems to work as expected.

Paul



Paul, thanks a lot you for the tip. I happened to have Cygwin installed 
one my machine, so I gave it a try. My setup is the following: I have 
windows version of  LyX 1.3.5 downloaded from LyX.org. I tried to create 
the sym-link in Cygwin and run LyX from there.


However, it did not work. The command ln -s a b run from Cygwin simply 
creates Windows shortcut. But LyX run from Cygwin won't recognize the 
shortcut as a link... obviously it ignores Cygwin altogether.


You mentioned MinSYS being required for LyX 1.3.6. What does it mean? 
Does it mean that LyX will understand shortcuts in Windows?


I'm going to try to install MinSYS now.

Thanks again,

David

Re: how to share BibTeX references across platforms

[Angus Leeming]

David Soukal wrote:
 You mentioned MinSYS being required for LyX 1.3.6. What does it mean?
 Does it mean that LyX will understand shortcuts in Windows?

No. We use MinSYS only to run various shell scripts. Some people have
reported success using Cygwin's shell environment instead, but I haven't
been there so I'm just reporting heresay. LyX itself is a purely Windows
app on Windows, albeit one with relatively limited Windows functionality.
In particular, it knows nothing at all about shortcuts.

 I'm going to try to install MinSYS now.
 
 Thanks again,
 
 David

-- 
Angus

Re: how to share BibTeX references across platforms

[Angus Leeming]

On Tuesday 06 September 2005 20:44, David Soukal wrote:
 But then, how can the MinSYS's ln -s command work with LyX? I don't
 know about MinSYS but Cygwin really creates only a shortcut which is not
 being interpreted by LyX... so the trick does not work...

 I'm so confused right now... :)

MinSYS's ln -s simply copies the file.

Angus

confusion: interword spacing vs. unbreakble space

[David Soukal]

Hello all,

I'm very confused about how to properly create an interword space. In 
LaTeX the standard way is to use \  for an interword space and \@ for 
the end-of-sentence spacing after punctuation. I was used to typing


bla, e.g.\ bla

to get the proper spacing (i.e. interword spacing). However in the LyX 
manual, the recommended way to do this is to use the protected space, 
i.e. ~. But this is not really the same thing, is it? If understand 
correctly e.g.~bla won't get broken at the end of a line as it should, 
right?


Could somebody, please, explain how to do this correctly?

Thank you,

David

Re: confusion: interword spacing vs. unbreakble space

[Angus Leeming]

David Soukal wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I'm very confused about how to properly create an interword space. In
 LaTeX the standard way is to use \  for an interword space and \@ for
 the end-of-sentence spacing after punctuation. I was used to typing
 
 bla, e.g.\ bla
 
 to get the proper spacing (i.e. interword spacing). However in the LyX
 manual, the recommended way to do this is to use the protected space,
 i.e. ~. But this is not really the same thing, is it? If understand
 correctly e.g.~bla won't get broken at the end of a line as it should,
 right?
 
 Could somebody, please, explain how to do this correctly?

Using ERT.

Things are nicer in LyX 1.4cvs. (Not yet released; here's a wee piccie to
whet your appetite.)

-- 
Angus

lyx_spaces.png
Description: PNG image

float in the float

[Leon Chen]

Hi all,

I tried to past many picutres into one figure, and put some text below
each picture. I can not align the text with each pic correctly in one
float, so I tried to inset a 'floatflt figure' into the big float,
want some nested effect.

unfortunately , i can not see the inner figre in the output.

Any comment? Thank you very much. 

-- 
Leon Chen,
Imperial College, London

MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!

[Michael Wojcik]

Stephen P. Harris wrote:


- Original Message - From: Michael Wojcik [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of  is
valid for closing quotes.


Needed why?  In LyX, the  character should be suitable for both.  
(See User's Guide 3.7.2.2 on setting quote-character options.)


Here is an example taken from an explanation of how to write correct
syntax when using regular expressions.


Not a compelling example, I'm afraid, unless I'm missing something.  The
example you provided isn't a LyX file, and its use of the backquote
and single quote characters to resemble double-quote characters is
hardly necessary.  Regular double-quote characters would have served
just as well.

More importantly, your example doesn't touch on Geoffrey's claim that
two open single quotes are needed [but the double quote character] is
valid for closing quotes.

--
Michael Wojcik

Re: how to share BibTeX references across platforms

[Paul A. Rubin]

David Soukal wrote:

Paul, thanks a lot you for the tip. I happened to have Cygwin installed 
one my machine, so I gave it a try. My setup is the following: I have 
windows version of  LyX 1.3.5 downloaded from LyX.org. I tried to create 
the sym-link in Cygwin and run LyX from there.


However, it did not work. The command ln -s a b run from Cygwin simply 
creates Windows shortcut. But LyX run from Cygwin won't recognize the 
shortcut as a link... obviously it ignores Cygwin altogether.


I just tried Cygwin's version of ln and had the same experience you did. 
 If you use Windows Explorer to look at the directory where you created 
the symbolic link, you see a Windows link icon.  You're right, LyX won't 
follow a Windows link (.lnk).


You mentioned MinSYS being required for LyX 1.3.6. What does it mean? 


Actually, MinSYS is not exactly required -- what's required is sh.exe, 
and MinSYS is (I think) the way the LyX 1.3.6 installer suggests getting 
it (if it doesn't find sh.exe already installed, as for instance it 
would if you had Cygwin on the system).



Does it mean that LyX will understand shortcuts in Windows?


Not in the sense of interpreting .lnk files, but if you use the ln.exe 
that comes with MinSYS, what Windows Explorer shows you is not a .lnk 
icon but a folder icon.


Prior to Win 2000 (I think), the Windows file system had no real 
symbolic link capability at all resembling what Unix has.  I'm not sure 
if it was a consequence of switching to the NTFS file system, but Win XP 
(and I think Win 2K) have the ability to create actual symbolic links 
now.  The catch, if I recall correctly, is that the command line 
application to do so does not install automatically but comes from a 
toolkit CD (which may cost extra -- again, not sure).


I suspect that the version of ln that comes with MinSYS has been 
compiled to use the Win XP/Win 2K API calls to create symbolic links.  I 
don't know if this will work on a FAT drive; it may well be restricted 
to NTFS partitions.


I'm going to try to install MinSYS now.

If you're installing on the same machine that has Cygwin (and not 
uninstalling Cygwin), be sure to use the full path to ln so that you get 
the MinSYS version of it.  Follow up here if it still doesn't work.


Paul

Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!

[Stephen P. Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Wojcik [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LyX Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!



Stephen P. Harris wrote:


- Original Message - From: Michael Wojcik [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of  is
valid for closing quotes.


Needed why?  In LyX, the  character should be suitable for both.  (See 
User's Guide 3.7.2.2 on setting quote-character options.)


Here is an example taken from an explanation of how to write correct
syntax when using regular expressions.


Not a compelling example, I'm afraid, unless I'm missing something.  The 
example you provided isn't a LyX file, and its use of the backquote and 
single quote characters to resemble double-quote character is hardly 
necessary.  Regular double-quote characters would have served just as 
well.




Perhaps my comment is off target. I gave the url of the webpage that
the example was taken from which means it was written in html.

I was thinking, suppose one is writing a tutorial on regular expressions
using LyX. Then one decides to convert the file to html for a webpage.
Since scripts are often copied and pasted from webpages, I thought it
would make a difference whether the source document used  or ''
one alt-34 character vs. two alt-39 characters, which display the same
looking character but function differently in how the regex would work,
as ' and  do not work exactly the same in all script/shells for enclosures.


More importantly, your example doesn't touch on Geoffrey's claim that
two open single quotes are needed [but the double quote character] is
valid for closing quotes.



Then I guess my post is irrelevant and inconsequential.


--
Michael Wojcik




Thanks for your correction,
Stephen

Re: Generating LyX docs in a build

[Jane McKean]

Jose':

This is perfect. Thank you so much for the build information. Will keep
you posted about how it works out.

--jane

Re: Environment Depth question..

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Pierre Marc Dumuid wrote:
 I have to:
 a) choose enumerate
 b) Type Non-words and press enter
 c) click the Increase environment depth icon in the toolbar
 d) Type fooblog
 e) click the Increase environment depth icon in the toolbar
 f) Type lyxlog
 g) click the Increase environment depth icon in the toolbar
 h) Type laughter
 i) Type test and press enter

 I really find steps (e) and (g) REALLY annoying.  I'd rather it stayed
 at that environment depth when I press return, and have a  decrease
 envionment depth option.

Alt-Return.

Jürgen

Re: problem with hyphenation of underlined text

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Angus Leeming wrote:
  But might there be a way that LyX (1.3.5) can take advantage of soul.sty
  automatically (without any ERT on my part)?

 Nope.

But you can put
\let\underbar\ul
in preamble, then LyX's undeline will use soul's \ul.

Jürgen

Re: problem with hyphenation of underlined text

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Juergen Spitzmueller writes:
 \let\underbar\ul
 in preamble, then LyX's undeline will use soul's \ul.

Yes, this seems to be exactly what I was looking for.

Using the soul package and this command means I no longer have to 
individually deal with LyX's problem in hyphenating underlined words. 
Perhaps this could be added as a check-box option (like use AMS Math) 
to the packages tab in the Document menu under Layout -- unless in the 
new version it already has been.

Many thanks!

-K

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: Compiling LyX 1.3.6 with qt

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Luqman == Luqman H [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Luqman thanks it works... i'm just have tobe patient for very long
Luqman compiling.. btw, is it a bug? or it only happen to my
Luqman machine..?

By default, Qt has some compatibility code between its own strings
(QString) and C++ standard strings (std::string). Some linux
distributions chose to disable this code (which is not a bad idea),
and this produces compilation errors. We now build LyX without the
compatibility code enabled, so that the problem should not happen
again.

JMarc

Re: Spellchecker - possible bug??

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Geoffrey == Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Geoffrey Hi When using the spell checker with words in quotation
Geoffrey marks it always flags up the last word as incorrectly spelt

Geoffrey e.g. Here is a good sentence with quotes.

Geoffrey it will flag up sentence

Geoffrey Is this a bug or just the fact that, possibly rightly, it
Geoffrey doesn't like the use of quotes in standard text.

Geoffrey BTW the quotes are entered using two ' marks rather than 
Geoffrey directly.

We always consider ' as being part of a word for spell-checking. We
should improve that by ignoring ' when it is at the beginning/end of a
word. This is on my virtual todo list.

JMarc

Re: suppressing the use of amsmath package with kyx 1.3.6

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Micha == Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Micha Is it possible to suppress the use of the amsmath package with
Micha lyx 1.3.6 even when relevant commands such as split are used?

Micha I have a problem that when using amsmath and hebrew in the same
Micha document. babel has to be used before amsmath or else the split
Micha environment can not be used. 

Unfortunately, it is difficult to work around this problem, since it
happens only with hebrew. Loading amsmath after babel will probably
create problems with packages that have to be loaded after amsmath...

In LyX 1.4.0, it will be possible to avoid loading of amsmath altogether.

Micha Lyx 1.3.4 didn't try to be too smart and didn't include amsmath
Micha if the amsmath checkbox wasn't checked. 

It already had such code for some ams constructs. What we did in 1.3.6
was to add the array constructs that had been forgotten previously.

Micha Lyx 1.3.6 tries to be smart but includes things in the wrong
Micha order which makes it impossible to compile the document without
Micha messing with the tex file directly.
 
In an ideal world, it would be up to babel/hebrew and amsmath authors
to solve the problem. I found some messages from you at the linux-il
mailing list about this problem. Could you summarize what the
situation and prospects are? 

JMarc

footnotes in table not appearing

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Hi all,

Just as the end of the tunnel finally is in sight, one more (last?) 
little problem has got me stuck.

I've got two small tables that contain footnote references. The correct 
reference numbers appear in the dvi output, but the footnotes 
themselves (and numbers) at the bottom of the page are omitted.

If the table contains a reference to footnote 92, at the bottom of the 
page you might see:

91 - a footnote
93 - another footnote

Any suggestions on what might be wrong or a workaround?

Many thanks (as always),

-K


-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: footnotes in table not appearing

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:
 I've got two small tables that contain footnote references. The correct
 reference numbers appear in the dvi output, but the footnotes
 themselves (and numbers) at the bottom of the page are omitted.


A LaTeX restriction, see
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab

Jürgen

Re: footnotes in table not appearing

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Juergen Spitzmueller writes:
 Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:
  I've got two small tables that contain footnote references. The
  correct reference numbers appear in the dvi output, but the
  footnotes themselves (and numbers) at the bottom of the page are
  omitted.

 A LaTeX restriction, see
 http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab

Thanks for the tip. The long list of solutions seemed rather dire, but 
in the middle there was this very simple suggestion: Use tabularx or 
longtable from the LaTeX tools distribution; they're noticeably less 
efficient than the standard tabular environment, but they do allow 
footnotes.

longtable sounded familiar to my LyX-ears. And it worked when I 
checked Use long table  in LyX's Tabular menu.


-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Help!- Windows/Linux .lyx file compatability

[Rik Aspinall]

Hi there,
I've been working on linux and have started using another computer which
uses windows. So I have downloaded the latest versions of the packages
(as of 6 sept 2005) and I'm using:
Lyx 1.3.6-1 for windows
OS=Win 200 Pro

Packages downloaded were:
ActivePerl 5.8.7.813
Python 2.4.1
ImageMagick6.2.4 Q16
MSYS
MikTEX 
Aspell 0.50-3
Ghostscript 8.51
 
Anyway the issue is that my math won't display properly. That is, the
math that I write is correct in terms of its latex content, but is
displayed in lyx's editor wrongly.
For example the command \prod will produce a nicely typeset big pi for
the product symbol, yet when displayed in lyx it appears as Q. I have
checked for ams packages and they seem to be there.
 
If you know how to fix this, could you send an email to me
([EMAIL PROTECTED])?
Thanks,
Rik 

Re: Help!- Windows/Linux .lyx file compatability

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

I imagine you output looks fine and this is a problem with display only.

Have you installed the Maths fonts (Bakoma)?

These help Lyx display math properly.

It is on the wiki http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136 under maths fonts

Geoff


- Original Message - 
From: Rik Aspinall [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 5:43 PM
Subject: Help!- Windows/Linux .lyx file compatability



Hi there,
I've been working on linux and have started using another computer which
uses windows. So I have downloaded the latest versions of the packages
(as of 6 sept 2005) and I'm using:
Lyx 1.3.6-1 for windows
OS=Win 200 Pro

Packages downloaded were:
ActivePerl 5.8.7.813
Python 2.4.1
ImageMagick6.2.4 Q16
MSYS
MikTEX 
Aspell 0.50-3

Ghostscript 8.51

Anyway the issue is that my math won't display properly. That is, the
math that I write is correct in terms of its latex content, but is
displayed in lyx's editor wrongly.
For example the command \prod will produce a nicely typeset big pi for
the product symbol, yet when displayed in lyx it appears as Q. I have
checked for ams packages and they seem to be there.

If you know how to fix this, could you send an email to me
([EMAIL PROTECTED])?
Thanks,
Rik 

How to change size of math screen fonts?

[Rudi Gaelzer]

Hi.  I'm using LyX 1.3.6 on Fedora 4.
Is to possible to change the size of math screen fonts?
If I go to Edit - Preferences - Screen fonts 
I only get something changing the Zoom %.  Changing the Screen DPI has no 
effect.  Moreover, it only changes the text fonts, leaving the math fonts 
always with the same size.
-- 
Rudi Gaelzer
Departament of Physics
Physics and Mathematics Institute
Federal University of Pelotas
Caixa Postal 354 - Campus UFPel
96010-900 Pelotas - RS
BRAZIL
Phone: +55-53-275-7468
FAX: +55-53-275-7343
Registered Linux user # 153741

Re: how to share BibTeX references across platforms

[David Soukal]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
If your advisor has installed (or is willing to install) the MinSYS 
system (subsystem? package? whatever), you can use symbolic links.  I 
believe MinSYS is mandatory for LyX 1.3.6 and later on Windows.


 From MinSYS's interactive shell, you create the link pretty much as you 
would on Linux, other than to remember that the C: drive is /c in 
MinSYS.  So, for instance, you would use


ln -s /c/papers/bibliography ./ref

on her machine.  Alternatively, you can do the same thing from a DOS 
command prompt, by providing the path to ln if necessary, for instance


C:\Program Files\msys\1.0\bin\ln.exe -s /c/papers/bibliography ./ref

(assuming the default installation location).

I've tried it here (Win XP) and it seems to work as expected.

Paul



Paul, thanks a lot you for the tip. I happened to have Cygwin installed 
one my machine, so I gave it a try. My setup is the following: I have 
windows version of  LyX 1.3.5 downloaded from LyX.org. I tried to create 
the sym-link in Cygwin and run LyX from there.


However, it did not work. The command ln -s a b run from Cygwin simply 
creates Windows shortcut. But LyX run from Cygwin won't recognize the 
shortcut as a link... obviously it ignores Cygwin altogether.


You mentioned MinSYS being required for LyX 1.3.6. What does it mean? 
Does it mean that LyX will understand shortcuts in Windows?


I'm going to try to install MinSYS now.

Thanks again,

David

Re: how to share BibTeX references across platforms

[Angus Leeming]

David Soukal wrote:
 You mentioned MinSYS being required for LyX 1.3.6. What does it mean?
 Does it mean that LyX will understand shortcuts in Windows?

No. We use MinSYS only to run various shell scripts. Some people have
reported success using Cygwin's shell environment instead, but I haven't
been there so I'm just reporting heresay. LyX itself is a purely Windows
app on Windows, albeit one with relatively limited Windows functionality.
In particular, it knows nothing at all about shortcuts.

 I'm going to try to install MinSYS now.
 
 Thanks again,
 
 David

-- 
Angus

Re: how to share BibTeX references across platforms

[Angus Leeming]

On Tuesday 06 September 2005 20:44, David Soukal wrote:
 But then, how can the MinSYS's ln -s command work with LyX? I don't
 know about MinSYS but Cygwin really creates only a shortcut which is not
 being interpreted by LyX... so the trick does not work...

 I'm so confused right now... :)

MinSYS's ln -s simply copies the file.

Angus

confusion: interword spacing vs. unbreakble space

[David Soukal]

Hello all,

I'm very confused about how to properly create an interword space. In 
LaTeX the standard way is to use \  for an interword space and \@ for 
the end-of-sentence spacing after punctuation. I was used to typing


bla, e.g.\ bla

to get the proper spacing (i.e. interword spacing). However in the LyX 
manual, the recommended way to do this is to use the protected space, 
i.e. ~. But this is not really the same thing, is it? If understand 
correctly e.g.~bla won't get broken at the end of a line as it should, 
right?


Could somebody, please, explain how to do this correctly?

Thank you,

David

Re: confusion: interword spacing vs. unbreakble space

[Angus Leeming]

David Soukal wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I'm very confused about how to properly create an interword space. In
 LaTeX the standard way is to use \  for an interword space and \@ for
 the end-of-sentence spacing after punctuation. I was used to typing
 
 bla, e.g.\ bla
 
 to get the proper spacing (i.e. interword spacing). However in the LyX
 manual, the recommended way to do this is to use the protected space,
 i.e. ~. But this is not really the same thing, is it? If understand
 correctly e.g.~bla won't get broken at the end of a line as it should,
 right?
 
 Could somebody, please, explain how to do this correctly?

Using ERT.

Things are nicer in LyX 1.4cvs. (Not yet released; here's a wee piccie to
whet your appetite.)

-- 
Angus

lyx_spaces.png
Description: PNG image

float in the float

[Leon Chen]

Hi all,

I tried to past many picutres into one figure, and put some text below
each picture. I can not align the text with each pic correctly in one
float, so I tried to inset a 'floatflt figure' into the big float,
want some nested effect.

unfortunately , i can not see the inner figre in the output.

Any comment? Thank you very much. 

-- 
Leon Chen,
Imperial College, London

MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!

[Michael Wojcik]

Stephen P. Harris wrote:


- Original Message - From: Michael Wojcik [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of  is
valid for closing quotes.


Needed why?  In LyX, the  character should be suitable for both.  
(See User's Guide 3.7.2.2 on setting quote-character options.)


Here is an example taken from an explanation of how to write correct
syntax when using regular expressions.


Not a compelling example, I'm afraid, unless I'm missing something.  The
example you provided isn't a LyX file, and its use of the backquote
and single quote characters to resemble double-quote characters is
hardly necessary.  Regular double-quote characters would have served
just as well.

More importantly, your example doesn't touch on Geoffrey's claim that
two open single quotes are needed [but the double quote character] is
valid for closing quotes.

--
Michael Wojcik

Re: how to share BibTeX references across platforms

[Paul A. Rubin]

David Soukal wrote:

Paul, thanks a lot you for the tip. I happened to have Cygwin installed 
one my machine, so I gave it a try. My setup is the following: I have 
windows version of  LyX 1.3.5 downloaded from LyX.org. I tried to create 
the sym-link in Cygwin and run LyX from there.


However, it did not work. The command ln -s a b run from Cygwin simply 
creates Windows shortcut. But LyX run from Cygwin won't recognize the 
shortcut as a link... obviously it ignores Cygwin altogether.


I just tried Cygwin's version of ln and had the same experience you did. 
 If you use Windows Explorer to look at the directory where you created 
the symbolic link, you see a Windows link icon.  You're right, LyX won't 
follow a Windows link (.lnk).


You mentioned MinSYS being required for LyX 1.3.6. What does it mean? 


Actually, MinSYS is not exactly required -- what's required is sh.exe, 
and MinSYS is (I think) the way the LyX 1.3.6 installer suggests getting 
it (if it doesn't find sh.exe already installed, as for instance it 
would if you had Cygwin on the system).



Does it mean that LyX will understand shortcuts in Windows?


Not in the sense of interpreting .lnk files, but if you use the ln.exe 
that comes with MinSYS, what Windows Explorer shows you is not a .lnk 
icon but a folder icon.


Prior to Win 2000 (I think), the Windows file system had no real 
symbolic link capability at all resembling what Unix has.  I'm not sure 
if it was a consequence of switching to the NTFS file system, but Win XP 
(and I think Win 2K) have the ability to create actual symbolic links 
now.  The catch, if I recall correctly, is that the command line 
application to do so does not install automatically but comes from a 
toolkit CD (which may cost extra -- again, not sure).


I suspect that the version of ln that comes with MinSYS has been 
compiled to use the Win XP/Win 2K API calls to create symbolic links.  I 
don't know if this will work on a FAT drive; it may well be restricted 
to NTFS partitions.


I'm going to try to install MinSYS now.

If you're installing on the same machine that has Cygwin (and not 
uninstalling Cygwin), be sure to use the full path to ln so that you get 
the MinSYS version of it.  Follow up here if it still doesn't work.


Paul

Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!

[Stephen P. Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Wojcik [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LyX Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!



Stephen P. Harris wrote:


- Original Message - From: Michael Wojcik [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of  is
valid for closing quotes.


Needed why?  In LyX, the  character should be suitable for both.  (See 
User's Guide 3.7.2.2 on setting quote-character options.)


Here is an example taken from an explanation of how to write correct
syntax when using regular expressions.


Not a compelling example, I'm afraid, unless I'm missing something.  The 
example you provided isn't a LyX file, and its use of the backquote and 
single quote characters to resemble double-quote character is hardly 
necessary.  Regular double-quote characters would have served just as 
well.




Perhaps my comment is off target. I gave the url of the webpage that
the example was taken from which means it was written in html.

I was thinking, suppose one is writing a tutorial on regular expressions
using LyX. Then one decides to convert the file to html for a webpage.
Since scripts are often copied and pasted from webpages, I thought it
would make a difference whether the source document used  or ''
one alt-34 character vs. two alt-39 characters, which display the same
looking character but function differently in how the regex would work,
as ' and  do not work exactly the same in all script/shells for enclosures.


More importantly, your example doesn't touch on Geoffrey's claim that
two open single quotes are needed [but the double quote character] is
valid for closing quotes.



Then I guess my post is irrelevant and inconsequential.


--
Michael Wojcik




Thanks for your correction,
Stephen

Re: Generating LyX docs in a build

[Jane McKean]

Jose':

This is perfect. Thank you so much for the build information. Will keep
you posted about how it works out.

--jane

Re: Environment Depth question..

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Pierre Marc Dumuid wrote:
> I have to:
> a) choose enumerate
> b) Type "Non-words" and press enter
> c) click the "Increase environment depth icon in the toolbar
> d) Type "fooblog"
> e) click the "Increase environment depth icon in the toolbar
> f) Type "lyxlog"
> g) click the "Increase environment depth icon in the toolbar
> h) Type "laughter"
> i) Type "test" and press enter
>
> I really find steps (e) and (g) REALLY annoying.  I'd rather it stayed
> at that environment depth when I press return, and have a  "decrease
> envionment depth" option.

Alt-Return.

Jürgen

Re: problem with hyphenation of underlined text

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Angus Leeming wrote:
> > But might there be a way that LyX (1.3.5) can take advantage of soul.sty
> > automatically (without any ERT on my part)?
>
> Nope.

But you can put
\let\underbar\ul
in preamble, then LyX's undeline will use soul's \ul.

Jürgen

Re: problem with hyphenation of underlined text

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Juergen Spitzmueller writes:
> \let\underbar\ul
> in preamble, then LyX's undeline will use soul's \ul.

Yes, this seems to be exactly what I was looking for.

Using the soul package and this command means I no longer have to 
individually deal with LyX's problem in hyphenating underlined words. 
Perhaps this could be added as a check-box option (like "use AMS Math") 
to the packages tab in the Document menu under Layout -- unless in the 
new version it already has been.

Many thanks!

-K

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tiros-Translations

Re: Compiling LyX 1.3.6 with qt

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Luqman" == Luqman H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Luqman> thanks it works... i'm just have tobe patient for very long
Luqman> compiling.. btw, is it a bug? or it only happen to my
Luqman> machine..?

By default, Qt has some compatibility code between its own strings
(QString) and C++ standard strings (std::string). Some linux
distributions chose to disable this code (which is not a bad idea),
and this produces compilation errors. We now build LyX without the
compatibility code enabled, so that the problem should not happen
again.

JMarc

Re: Spellchecker - possible bug??

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Geoffrey" == Geoffrey Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Geoffrey> Hi When using the spell checker with words in quotation
Geoffrey> marks it always flags up the last word as incorrectly spelt

Geoffrey> e.g. Here is a "good sentence" with quotes.

Geoffrey> it will flag up <>

Geoffrey> Is this a bug or just the fact that, possibly rightly, it
Geoffrey> doesn't like the use of quotes in standard text.

Geoffrey> BTW the quotes are entered using two ' marks rather than "
Geoffrey> directly.

We always consider ' as being part of a word for spell-checking. We
should improve that by ignoring ' when it is at the beginning/end of a
word. This is on my virtual todo list.

JMarc

Re: suppressing the use of amsmath package with kyx 1.3.6

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Micha" == Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Micha> Is it possible to suppress the use of the amsmath package with
Micha> lyx 1.3.6 even when relevant commands such as split are used?

Micha> I have a problem that when using amsmath and hebrew in the same
Micha> document. babel has to be used before amsmath or else the split
Micha> environment can not be used. 

Unfortunately, it is difficult to work around this problem, since it
happens only with hebrew. Loading amsmath after babel will probably
create problems with packages that have to be loaded after amsmath...

In LyX 1.4.0, it will be possible to avoid loading of amsmath altogether.

Micha> Lyx 1.3.4 didn't try to be too smart and didn't include amsmath
Micha> if the amsmath checkbox wasn't checked. 

It already had such code for some ams constructs. What we did in 1.3.6
was to add the array constructs that had been forgotten previously.

Micha> Lyx 1.3.6 tries to be smart but includes things in the wrong
Micha> order which makes it impossible to compile the document without
Micha> messing with the tex file directly.
 
In an ideal world, it would be up to babel/hebrew and amsmath authors
to solve the problem. I found some messages from you at the linux-il
mailing list about this problem. Could you summarize what the
situation and prospects are? 

JMarc

footnotes in table not appearing

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Hi all,

Just as the end of the tunnel finally is in sight, one more (last?) 
little problem has got me stuck.

I've got two small tables that contain footnote references. The correct 
reference numbers appear in the dvi output, but the footnotes 
themselves (and numbers) at the bottom of the page are omitted.

If the table contains a reference to footnote 92, at the bottom of the 
page you might see:

91 - a footnote
93 - another footnote

Any suggestions on what might be wrong or a workaround?

Many thanks (as always),

-K


-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tiros-Translations

Re: footnotes in table not appearing

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:
> I've got two small tables that contain footnote references. The correct
> reference numbers appear in the dvi output, but the footnotes
> themselves (and numbers) at the bottom of the page are omitted.


A LaTeX restriction, see
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab

Jürgen

Re: footnotes in table not appearing

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Juergen Spitzmueller writes:
> Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:
> > I've got two small tables that contain footnote references. The
> > correct reference numbers appear in the dvi output, but the
> > footnotes themselves (and numbers) at the bottom of the page are
> > omitted.
>
> A LaTeX restriction, see
> http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab

Thanks for the tip. The long list of solutions seemed rather dire, but 
in the middle there was this very simple suggestion: "Use tabularx or 
longtable from the LaTeX tools distribution; they're noticeably less 
efficient than the standard tabular environment, but they do allow 
footnotes."

"longtable" sounded familiar to my LyX-ears. And it worked when I 
checked "Use long table"  in LyX's Tabular menu.


-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tiros-Translations

Help!- Windows/Linux .lyx file compatability

[Rik Aspinall]

Hi there,
I've been working on linux and have started using another computer which
uses windows. So I have downloaded the latest versions of the packages
(as of 6 sept 2005) and I'm using:
Lyx 1.3.6-1 for windows
OS=Win 200 Pro

Packages downloaded were:
ActivePerl 5.8.7.813
Python 2.4.1
ImageMagick6.2.4 Q16
MSYS
MikTEX 
Aspell 0.50-3
Ghostscript 8.51
 
Anyway the issue is that my math won't display properly. That is, the
math that I write is correct in terms of its latex content, but is
displayed in lyx's editor wrongly.
For example the command \prod will produce a nicely typeset "big pi" for
the product symbol, yet when displayed in lyx it appears as "Q". I have
checked for ams packages and they seem to be there.
 
If you know how to fix this, could you send an email to me
([EMAIL PROTECTED])?
Thanks,
Rik 

Re: Help!- Windows/Linux .lyx file compatability

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

I imagine you output looks fine and this is a problem with display only.

Have you installed the Maths fonts (Bakoma)?

These help Lyx display math properly.

It is on the wiki http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX136 under maths fonts

Geoff


- Original Message - 
From: "Rik Aspinall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 5:43 PM
Subject: Help!- Windows/Linux .lyx file compatability



Hi there,
I've been working on linux and have started using another computer which
uses windows. So I have downloaded the latest versions of the packages
(as of 6 sept 2005) and I'm using:
Lyx 1.3.6-1 for windows
OS=Win 200 Pro

Packages downloaded were:
ActivePerl 5.8.7.813
Python 2.4.1
ImageMagick6.2.4 Q16
MSYS
MikTEX 
Aspell 0.50-3

Ghostscript 8.51

Anyway the issue is that my math won't display properly. That is, the
math that I write is correct in terms of its latex content, but is
displayed in lyx's editor wrongly.
For example the command \prod will produce a nicely typeset "big pi" for
the product symbol, yet when displayed in lyx it appears as "Q". I have
checked for ams packages and they seem to be there.

If you know how to fix this, could you send an email to me
([EMAIL PROTECTED])?
Thanks,
Rik 

How to change size of math screen fonts?

[Rudi Gaelzer]

Hi.  I'm using LyX 1.3.6 on Fedora 4.
Is to possible to change the size of math screen fonts?
If I go to Edit -> Preferences -> Screen fonts 
I only get something changing the Zoom %.  Changing the Screen DPI has no 
effect.  Moreover, it only changes the text fonts, leaving the math fonts 
always with the same size.
-- 
Rudi Gaelzer
Departament of Physics
Physics and Mathematics Institute
Federal University of Pelotas
Caixa Postal 354 - Campus UFPel
96010-900 Pelotas - RS
BRAZIL
Phone: +55-53-275-7468
FAX: +55-53-275-7343
Registered Linux user # 153741

Re: how to share BibTeX references across platforms

[David Soukal]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
If your advisor has installed (or is willing to install) the MinSYS 
system (subsystem? package? whatever), you can use symbolic links.  I 
believe MinSYS is mandatory for LyX 1.3.6 and later on Windows.


 From MinSYS's interactive shell, you create the link pretty much as you 
would on Linux, other than to remember that the C: drive is /c in 
MinSYS.  So, for instance, you would use


ln -s /c/papers/bibliography ./ref

on her machine.  Alternatively, you can do the same thing from a DOS 
command prompt, by providing the path to ln if necessary, for instance


"C:\Program Files\msys\1.0\bin\ln.exe" -s /c/papers/bibliography ./ref

(assuming the default installation location).

I've tried it here (Win XP) and it seems to work as expected.

Paul



Paul, thanks a lot you for the tip. I happened to have Cygwin installed 
one my machine, so I gave it a try. My setup is the following: I have 
windows version of  LyX 1.3.5 downloaded from LyX.org. I tried to create 
the sym-link in Cygwin and run LyX from there.


However, it did not work. The command "ln -s a b" run from Cygwin simply 
creates Windows shortcut. But LyX run from Cygwin won't recognize the 
shortcut as a link... obviously it ignores Cygwin altogether.


You mentioned MinSYS being required for LyX 1.3.6. What does it mean? 
Does it mean that LyX will understand shortcuts in Windows?


I'm going to try to install MinSYS now.

Thanks again,

David

Re: how to share BibTeX references across platforms

[Angus Leeming]

David Soukal wrote:
> You mentioned MinSYS being required for LyX 1.3.6. What does it mean?
> Does it mean that LyX will understand shortcuts in Windows?

No. We use MinSYS only to run various shell scripts. Some people have
reported success using Cygwin's shell environment instead, but I haven't
been there so I'm just reporting heresay. LyX itself is a purely Windows
app on Windows, albeit one with relatively limited Windows functionality.
In particular, it knows nothing at all about shortcuts.

> I'm going to try to install MinSYS now.
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> David

-- 
Angus

Re: how to share BibTeX references across platforms

[Angus Leeming]

On Tuesday 06 September 2005 20:44, David Soukal wrote:
> But then, how can the MinSYS's "ln -s" command work with LyX? I don't
> know about MinSYS but Cygwin really creates only a shortcut which is not
> being interpreted by LyX... so the trick does not work...
>
> I'm so confused right now... :)

MinSYS's "ln -s" simply copies the file.

Angus

confusion: interword spacing vs. unbreakble space

[David Soukal]

Hello all,

I'm very confused about how to properly create an interword space. In 
LaTeX the standard way is to use "\ " for an interword space and \@ for 
the end-of-sentence spacing after punctuation. I was used to typing


bla, e.g.\ bla

to get the proper spacing (i.e. interword spacing). However in the LyX 
manual, the recommended way to do this is to use the protected space, 
i.e. ~. But this is not really the same thing, is it? If understand 
correctly "e.g.~bla" won't get broken at the end of a line as it should, 
right?


Could somebody, please, explain how to do this correctly?

Thank you,

David

Re: confusion: interword spacing vs. unbreakble space

[Angus Leeming]

David Soukal wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I'm very confused about how to properly create an interword space. In
> LaTeX the standard way is to use "\ " for an interword space and \@ for
> the end-of-sentence spacing after punctuation. I was used to typing
> 
> bla, e.g.\ bla
> 
> to get the proper spacing (i.e. interword spacing). However in the LyX
> manual, the recommended way to do this is to use the protected space,
> i.e. ~. But this is not really the same thing, is it? If understand
> correctly "e.g.~bla" won't get broken at the end of a line as it should,
> right?
> 
> Could somebody, please, explain how to do this correctly?

Using ERT.

Things are nicer in LyX 1.4cvs. (Not yet released; here's a wee piccie to
whet your appetite.)

-- 
Angus

lyx_spaces.png
Description: PNG image

float in the float

[Leon Chen]

Hi all,

I tried to past many picutres into one figure, and put some text below
each picture. I can not align the text with each pic correctly in one
float, so I tried to inset a 'floatflt figure' into the big float,
want some nested effect.

unfortunately , i can not see the inner figre in the output.

Any comment? Thank you very much. 

-- 
Leon Chen,
Imperial College, London

MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!

[Michael Wojcik]

Stephen P. Harris wrote:


- Original Message - From: "Michael Wojcik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of " is
valid for closing quotes.


Needed why?  In LyX, the " character should be suitable for both.  
(See User's Guide 3.7.2.2 on setting quote-character options.)


Here is an example taken from an explanation of how to write correct
syntax when using regular expressions.


Not a compelling example, I'm afraid, unless I'm missing something.  The
example you provided isn't a LyX file, and its use of the "backquote"
and "single quote" characters to resemble double-quote characters is
hardly necessary.  Regular double-quote characters would have served
just as well.

More importantly, your example doesn't touch on Geoffrey's claim that
"two open single quotes are needed [but the double quote character] is
valid for closing quotes".

--
Michael Wojcik

Re: how to share BibTeX references across platforms

[Paul A. Rubin]

David Soukal wrote:

Paul, thanks a lot you for the tip. I happened to have Cygwin installed 
one my machine, so I gave it a try. My setup is the following: I have 
windows version of  LyX 1.3.5 downloaded from LyX.org. I tried to create 
the sym-link in Cygwin and run LyX from there.


However, it did not work. The command "ln -s a b" run from Cygwin simply 
creates Windows shortcut. But LyX run from Cygwin won't recognize the 
shortcut as a link... obviously it ignores Cygwin altogether.


I just tried Cygwin's version of ln and had the same experience you did. 
 If you use Windows Explorer to look at the directory where you created 
the symbolic link, you see a Windows link icon.  You're right, LyX won't 
follow a Windows link (.lnk).


You mentioned MinSYS being required for LyX 1.3.6. What does it mean? 


Actually, MinSYS is not exactly required -- what's required is sh.exe, 
and MinSYS is (I think) the way the LyX 1.3.6 installer suggests getting 
it (if it doesn't find sh.exe already installed, as for instance it 
would if you had Cygwin on the system).



Does it mean that LyX will understand shortcuts in Windows?


Not in the sense of interpreting .lnk files, but if you use the ln.exe 
that comes with MinSYS, what Windows Explorer shows you is not a .lnk 
icon but a folder icon.


Prior to Win 2000 (I think), the Windows file system had no real 
symbolic link capability at all resembling what Unix has.  I'm not sure 
if it was a consequence of switching to the NTFS file system, but Win XP 
(and I think Win 2K) have the ability to create actual symbolic links 
now.  The catch, if I recall correctly, is that the command line 
application to do so does not install automatically but comes from a 
toolkit CD (which may cost extra -- again, not sure).


I suspect that the version of ln that comes with MinSYS has been 
compiled to use the Win XP/Win 2K API calls to create symbolic links.  I 
don't know if this will work on a FAT drive; it may well be restricted 
to NTFS partitions.


I'm going to try to install MinSYS now.

If you're installing on the same machine that has Cygwin (and not 
uninstalling Cygwin), be sure to use the full path to ln so that you get 
the MinSYS version of it.  Follow up here if it still doesn't work.


Paul

Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!

[Stephen P. Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Wojcik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "LyX Users" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Spellchecker - My stupidity!



Stephen P. Harris wrote:


- Original Message - From: "Michael Wojcik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


While two open single quotes are needed - ie `` - the use of " is
valid for closing quotes.


Needed why?  In LyX, the " character should be suitable for both.  (See 
User's Guide 3.7.2.2 on setting quote-character options.)


Here is an example taken from an explanation of how to write correct
syntax when using regular expressions.


Not a compelling example, I'm afraid, unless I'm missing something.  The 
example you provided isn't a LyX file, and its use of the "backquote" and 
"single quote" characters to resemble double-quote character is hardly 
necessary.  Regular double-quote characters would have served just as 
well.




Perhaps my comment is off target. I gave the url of the webpage that
the example was taken from which means it was written in html.

I was thinking, suppose one is writing a tutorial on regular expressions
using LyX. Then one decides to convert the file to html for a webpage.
Since scripts are often copied and pasted from webpages, I thought it
would make a difference whether the source document used " or ''
one alt-34 character vs. two alt-39 characters, which display the same
looking character but function differently in how the regex would work,
as ' and " do not work exactly the same in all script/shells for enclosures.


More importantly, your example doesn't touch on Geoffrey's claim that
"two open single quotes are needed [but the double quote character] is
valid for closing quotes".



Then I guess my post is irrelevant and inconsequential.


--
Michael Wojcik




Thanks for your correction,
Stephen

Re: Generating LyX docs in a build

[Jane McKean]

Jose':

This is perfect. Thank you so much for the build information. Will keep
you posted about how it works out.

--jane