Does Edit Preferences Converters work for you??

2005-09-11 Thread Paul Johnson

I'm running Fedora Core 4 linux with lyx 1.3.6 and the qt front end.

Today I have been re-tracing my steps to make LyX work together with R 
to process Sweave documents

(http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg36262.html)

I'm trying to use the menus to insert a converter from NoWeb to LaTex 
and the behavior of the GUI is completely erratic.  If I choose NoWeb 
and LaTeX from the pull downs and click the "new" button, I can t ype in 
a program's name, in this case, it is "Rweave $$i". The dialogue does 
create a line in the converter list, but it won't remember the command. 
  If I close the dialogue and re-open it, I try to fill in the missing 
command by hitting the "modify" button, and it just creates a copy of 
the original NoWeb-LaTeX converter, and it won't save anything I edit.


I can manually edit the file ~/.lyx/preferences to make the converter 
known to Lyx.  And the Sweave magic does work.


But I can't get there with the LyX GUI

--
Paul E. Johnson   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dept. of Political Sciencehttp://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn
1541 Lilac Lane, Rm 504
University of Kansas  Office: (785) 864-9086
Lawrence, Kansas 66044-3177   FAX: (785) 864-5700


Re: Simple questions.

2005-09-11 Thread Bennett Helm


On Sep 11, 2005, at 10:26 PM, Mike Meyer wrote:


Unfortunately, I was working on a Mac, using the Mac version of
LyX. If you can have two copies of LyX running, I haven't figured out
how. Trying to launch LyX a second time just pops up the window for
the running copy. Opening a second .lyx file causes the running LyX to
try and open it.


To get a second (or third or ...) instance of LyX on MacOSX, use the  
command line to execute the lyx binary within the application bundle.  
In my case, that's:


/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx &

Bennett


Re: Simple questions.

2005-09-11 Thread Mike Meyer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roy Schestowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed:
> > What I mean is that most applications let you open multiple windows
> > for "editing" puproses, with each window usually restricted to a
> > specific file. So when you open multiple documents, you get a window
> > per document, and a menu of windows. With LyX, you get one window, and
> > a menu of Documents...
> I don't consider that to be a bad thing. I dislike window clutter a la Word.
> What I mentioned earlier is what bothered me more: too many children windows.

Yeah, I could see getting used to this behavior. I set things in Emacs
to not open new windows when you open new documents. I was just
curious as to why LyX did things this way, rather than the more
conventional way.

> Instantiate another instance of LyX. Although LyX is singleton as
> far as I can tell, you can launch (using your Python-based Open?) a
> second terminal and call LyX from that.

Unfortunately, I was working on a Mac, using the Mac version of
LyX. If you can have two copies of LyX running, I haven't figured out
how. Trying to launch LyX a second time just pops up the window for
the running copy. Opening a second .lyx file causes the running LyX to
try and open it.

Thanks,
  http://www.mired.org/consulting.html
Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.


Re: Simple questions.

2005-09-11 Thread Roy Schestowitz

_/ On Sun 11 Sep 2005 21:08:56 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roy 
Schestowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed:

_/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 22:14:14 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_
...
> 1) Has anyone done a layout file for unixman.sty?

I have not come across it. Do you strictly need that specific style? It is
usually easy to manipulate existing ones to suit your requirements.


Well, it does the things I want. I'm still learning what will be
required to get this working, and may wind up doing what you suggest
in this case. I was hoping somene had already done it.



Speaking from experience, you will often be better off (time-wise) just
'bastardising' an existing style and saving it somewhere for future re-use.



> 2) I know this has to have been discussed to death - probably
>   repeatedly - but I couldn't seem to find the right query to tickle
>   google or the list archives into kicking it up. Could someone
>   provide a pointer to a rational for going with a single window
>   instead of the far more common multiple window approach? Or even tabs?

I think I am following your point here. It is just slightly hard-to-follow,
which must be the reason no (constructive) replies have yet been sent.


Sorry about that.

What I mean is that most applications let you open multiple windows
for "editing" puproses, with each window usually restricted to a
specific file. So when you open multiple documents, you get a window
per document, and a menu of windows. With LyX, you get one window, and
a menu of Documents...



I don't consider that to be a bad thing. I dislike window clutter a la Word.
What I mentioned earlier is what bothered me more: too many children windows.



...You change between documents in that window. This
drove me batty while working through the documentation - I wanted one
window on the documentation I was reading, and another on a document I
was using as a sandbox. I eventually solved that one by exporting the
documentation as PDF, and reading *that*. I still get bit every once
and a while. I'll ask "How do I do X", hit the Help menu, find what I
want, then proceed to "do X" to the documentation. I think mostly it's
a matter of "what I'm used to", and was wondering why it was done this
way.



Instantiate another instance of LyX. Although LyX is singleton as far as I can
tell, you can launch (using your Python-based Open?) a second terminal 
and call

LyX from that.



Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> provided an answer to my question:
dealing with mutliple views into the same document requires major
restructuring of the code. This is planned for 1.5 (or later). I'd be
happy if each document was restricted to a single window, but what
the hey - if I really want it, I have the source code.



Hope it helps,

Roy

--
Roy S. Schestowitz  | "Life is too short to proofread"
http://Schestowitz.com  |SuSE Linux| PGP-Key: 74572E8E
 2:30am  up 17 days 22:45,  3 users,  load average: 0.82, 0.98, 1.06



dia help

2005-09-11 Thread Myriam Abramson

Hi!

Somebody on this list might be familiar with the dia editor tool for
drawing diagrams on many Linux distributions.

The text facility seems pretty basic and I urgently need to have
subscripts and superscripts. Does anybody know how to do that in a
nice way?

Thanks for your insights,
-- 
   myriam



Re: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

2005-09-11 Thread Stephen P. Harris


- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Flynn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 12:13 PM
Subject: OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs



Jose' Matos wrote:

On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:23, Peter Flynn wrote:


2. yum install lyx.


Aaaaggghhh! *Never*, never, never do this if you already have TeX.
Especially not if you have already carefully removed the outdated mess
that is the RH kludge of tetex, and replaced it with the real tetex from
the TeX Collection DVD.


  If you do that you are on your own. 


No, RH is on its own. Posters to c.t.t have consistently told users
of the RH tetex RPMs to trash them and replace them with the TUG CDs.


One other possibility is to redo the tetex rpm and then yum will work.


The TeX community has been trying for years to get whoever is
responsible for the RH tetex RPMs to update them properly. But they 
insist on meddling with the directories and the subset of features

apparently deliberately to make it inconsistent with the TUG CDs.  I
have no idea why they insist on doing this.



I read this description from an authoritative source (tug.org) and your 
opinion is quite incoherent and inexperienced when compared to it.

The TeX Collection is self-described as having progressed to the point
"that comprehensive began to become incomprehensible". That is a
polite way of saying it had become a mess. It is no wonder that tetex
would have received a lower priority. You also single out RedHat.
Which of the many distros that using rpms or .deb have decided
they have the time to incorporate the endless stream of upgrades in
a system that in its entirety encompasses 6gigs? 


Now in 2004, quite a few fundamental changes are made. And
2004 was released as a less perfected product than 2003. I don't
mean that the fundamental changes were a mistake or that a lot
of rough edges can be avoided in such a transition. But certainly
you are not going to find a bunch of Linux distros jumping onto
the bandwagon. They are not going to devote a large portion of
their release to TeX, nor many man-hours to fixing Tex. The idea 
that the distros should do this, is undereducated and inexperienced. 


You speak of having users and dispensing TeX advice for 20 years.
Peter wrote:
"Excellent! Never used yum before, so here goes. I wonder will
it work over the top of the mess that the RPMs left behind them...
But what is the .lyx directory you mentioned? Something that pre-
existed from an earlier installation? Or something you downloaded?"

SH: You've certainly done a good job in establishing your unique
qualifications for your sweeping pronouncements. 


--:
http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb25-1/hagen-tl.pdf

"Beginning with version 8 TEX Live has become
the TEX Collection. It combines an out-of-the-box
TEX system and the complete CTAN repository
(Comprehensive TEX Archive Network: a snapshot
of almost all that is available for TEX users). TEX
systems started on floppy disks but soon filled CDROM's
and now DVD's. An archive of a couple of hundred files
grew into tens of thousands.

tree   directoriesfiles bytes
texmf  3,750 45,000 626 M
texmf-extra1151,500  66 M
bin  162,500 250 M
source   380   6,900  104 M

If the CTAN archive is included we have a grand total
of 138,000 (unzipped even 420,000) files, organized
in 10,000 directories, totaling 5,906,870,829 bytes,
or about 6 GB.

With version 8 the organizers realized that
comprehensive began to become incomprehensible.
Even though the TDS, the TEX Directory Structure,
had brought some order in grouping files they
were still faced with the fact that old TEX systems
had been replaced with new systems in a continuous
process to adapt to changing operating systems,
improved text editors and more sophisticated and
generally available viewers and printers. Fundamental
changes appeared necessary and are implemented in
the TEX Collection 2004. This paper will focus on
some of the most important of these changes.

Summary:
When TEX Live 2004 shows up in your postbox,
update and things will work as usual. If you have your
own fonts installed, however, you need to relocate
your personal mapfiles to .../fonts/map, and run
mktexlsr to update your files database. Also, if
your scripts use kpsewhich, check them."





Re: How create PDF bookmarks?

2005-09-11 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
- Original Message - 
From: "Leon Chen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: How create PDF bookmarks?


Sorry forgot that...

I added : \usepackage[bookmarks, bookmarksopen=true,
bookmarksnumbered=true]{hyperref}

into the preamble, then export->pdflatex

2 errors:

Undefined control sequence.
...lgorithm \ref{cap:Algorithm-of-the 3d2d}
 :
The control sequence at the end of the top line
of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
and I'll forget about whatever was undefined.

and

Undefined control sequence.
Algorithm \ref{alg: core corr}
 describes the brief structure of the
The control sequence at the end of the top line
of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
and I'll forget about whatever was undefined.

---

One thing to say is that the call

\usepackage[..]{hyperref}

must go last in the preamble. If there is anything after it you will 
probably get errors.


Try moving it.

Hope that works 



Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

2005-09-11 Thread Stephen P. Harris


- Original Message - 
From: "Jose' Matos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs


On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:23, Peter Flynn wrote:

> 2. yum install lyx.

Aaaaggghhh! *Never*, never, never do this if you already have TeX.
Especially not if you have already carefully removed the outdated mess
that is the RH kludge of tetex, and replaced it with the real tetex from
the TeX Collection DVD.


 If you do that you are on your own. One other possibility is to redo the
tetex rpm and then yum will work.

 What are the problems you have with FC tetex package? Have you reported it
to bugzilla.redhat.com?

 One other possibility would be to package that version and replace the
require in lyx rpm from tetex to tex...
--
José Abílio

This solution is for another frontend, TeXnic; shouldn't it work for LyX as 
well?


http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=texlive

Installing TeXLive [TL]
"If you have enough space on your harddisk, then goto TUG's website
or a mirror and look for the newest TeXLive image and then

wget http://www.tug.org/ftp/texlive/Images/< Image Name >.iso
mount < Image Name >.iso -r -t iso9660 -o loop /mnt
cd /mnt
/install-tl.sh

Choose TL complete and as path for example /opt/texlive.
Into /etc/profile.local (SuSE, maybe different for other systems)
or ~/.bashrc insert

export PATH=/opt/texlive/bin/i386-linux:$PATH

Now all should work well ..."

Regards,
Stephen



Re: How create PDF bookmarks?

2005-09-11 Thread Leon Chen
Sorry forgot that...

I added : \usepackage[bookmarks, bookmarksopen=true,
bookmarksnumbered=true]{hyperref}

into the preamble, then export->pdflatex

2 errors: 

Undefined control sequence.
 ...lgorithm \ref{cap:Algorithm-of-the 3d2d}
  :
The control sequence at the end of the top line
of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
and I'll forget about whatever was undefined.

and  

Undefined control sequence.
 Algorithm \ref{alg: core corr}
  describes the brief structure of the
The control sequence at the end of the top line
of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
and I'll forget about whatever was undefined.

---

very weird error... last time there are around 200 errors... when i
chose to view->pdflatex...
On 11/09/05, Geoffrey Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Leon Chen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 8:36 PM
> Subject: How create PDF bookmarks?
> 
> 
> I have tried
> ---
> In the LaTeX preamble write: \usepackage[bookmarks]{hyperref}
> If you want the bookmarks numbered, load hyperref with the option:
> "bookmarksnumbered=true"
> If you want all bookmarks opened, load it with the option
> "bookmarksopen=true"
> Here an example:
> 
> \usepackage[bookmarks, bookmarksopen=true, bookmarksnumbered=true]{hyperref}
> 
> ---
>  suggested on the wiki, also i search the archive, where the same
> suggestion.
> 
> but when i add them into the preamble, lots of errors appear during
> the output, which will not happen if i clear the preamble
> 
> Anyone has the same problem?
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Can you post details of the error messages please?
> 
> 


-- 
Leon Chen,
Imperial College, London

MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: How create PDF bookmarks?

2005-09-11 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd


- Original Message - 
From: "Leon Chen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 8:36 PM
Subject: How create PDF bookmarks?


I have tried
---
In the LaTeX preamble write: \usepackage[bookmarks]{hyperref}
If you want the bookmarks numbered, load hyperref with the option:
"bookmarksnumbered=true"
If you want all bookmarks opened, load it with the option 
"bookmarksopen=true"

Here an example:

\usepackage[bookmarks, bookmarksopen=true, bookmarksnumbered=true]{hyperref}

---
suggested on the wiki, also i search the archive, where the same 
suggestion.


but when i add them into the preamble, lots of errors appear during
the output, which will not happen if i clear the preamble

Anyone has the same problem?


--

Can you post details of the error messages please? 



Re: drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

2005-09-11 Thread Pol

Roy Schestowitz wrote:
Things appear to work fine when I copy accented text (tried Sørtun and 
Levänen)

from Mozilla Firefox to LyX directly. Konqueror is inferior in terms of
language support (Firefox can display Chinese, Arabic, Thai, etc.), so I
suggest you try Firefox.



Thank you Roy (and Peter, for the other reply) - I am sorry my 
description was incomplete. I was referring to konqueror as file manager 
(a role in which i believe it is unparalled as far as functionality and 
stability is concerned; i am very satisfied with it), not as web browser.


Probably Angus has spotted the issue, due to different font encodings

--pol



Re: Simple questions.

2005-09-11 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Roy Schestowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: Simple questions.


In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roy Schestowitz 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed:

_/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 22:14:14 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_

> Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Primary-Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-face:
> "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG%
> *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\
> --text follows this line--
> 1) Has anyone done a layout file for unixman.sty? Google didn't turn
>   one up, nor did google turn up an archive of LyX layout files.
I have not come across it. Do you strictly need that specific style? It 
is

usually easy to manipulate existing ones to suit your requirements.


Well, it does the things I want. I'm still learning what will be
required to get this working, and may wind up doing what you suggest
in this case. I was hoping somene had already done it.


> 2) I know this has to have been discussed to death - probably
>   repeatedly - but I couldn't seem to find the right query to tickle
>   google or the list archives into kicking it up. Could someone
>   provide a pointer to a rational for going with a single window
>   instead of the far more common multiple window approach? Or even 
> tabs?
I think I am following your point here. It is just slightly 
hard-to-follow,

which must be the reason no (constructive) replies have yet been sent.


Sorry about that.

What I mean is that most applications let you open multiple windows
for "editing" puproses, with each window usually restricted to a
specific file. So when you open multiple documents, you get a window
per document, and a menu of windows. With LyX, you get one window, and
a menu of Documents. You change between documents in that window. This
drove me batty while working through the documentation - I wanted one
window on the documentation I was reading, and another on a document I
was using as a sandbox. I eventually solved that one by exporting the
documentation as PDF, and reading *that*. I still get bit every once
and a while. I'll ask "How do I do X", hit the Help menu, find what I
want, then proceed to "do X" to the documentation. I think mostly it's
a matter of "what I'm used to", and was wondering why it was done this
way.



You can also open multiple sessions of Lyx there by having more than one 
document window open at once. It is a bit crude but it will give you what 
you want and it is no worse than opening the docs as a pdf. It also allows 
you to open the document settings for more than one doc and then cut and 
paste items between the preambles. Very useful I find.


Geoff






Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> provided an answer to my question:
dealing with mutliple views into the same document requires major
restructuring of the code. This is planned for 1.5 (or later). I'd be
happy if each document was restricted to a single window, but what
the hey - if I really want it, I have the source code.

Thanks,
 http://www.mired.org/consulting.html
Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.





Re: Simple questions.

2005-09-11 Thread Mike Meyer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roy Schestowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed:
> _/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 22:14:14 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_
> 
> > Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > X-Primary-Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > X-face: 
> > "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG%
> > *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\
> > --text follows this line--
> > 1) Has anyone done a layout file for unixman.sty? Google didn't turn
> >   one up, nor did google turn up an archive of LyX layout files.
> I have not come across it. Do you strictly need that specific style? It is
> usually easy to manipulate existing ones to suit your requirements.

Well, it does the things I want. I'm still learning what will be
required to get this working, and may wind up doing what you suggest
in this case. I was hoping somene had already done it.

> > 2) I know this has to have been discussed to death - probably
> >   repeatedly - but I couldn't seem to find the right query to tickle
> >   google or the list archives into kicking it up. Could someone
> >   provide a pointer to a rational for going with a single window
> >   instead of the far more common multiple window approach? Or even tabs?
> I think I am following your point here. It is just slightly hard-to-follow,
> which must be the reason no (constructive) replies have yet been sent. 

Sorry about that.

What I mean is that most applications let you open multiple windows
for "editing" puproses, with each window usually restricted to a
specific file. So when you open multiple documents, you get a window
per document, and a menu of windows. With LyX, you get one window, and
a menu of Documents. You change between documents in that window. This
drove me batty while working through the documentation - I wanted one
window on the documentation I was reading, and another on a document I
was using as a sandbox. I eventually solved that one by exporting the
documentation as PDF, and reading *that*. I still get bit every once
and a while. I'll ask "How do I do X", hit the Help menu, find what I
want, then proceed to "do X" to the documentation. I think mostly it's
a matter of "what I'm used to", and was wondering why it was done this
way.

Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> provided an answer to my question:
dealing with mutliple views into the same document requires major
restructuring of the code. This is planned for 1.5 (or later). I'd be
happy if each document was restricted to a single window, but what
the hey - if I really want it, I have the source code.

Thanks,
  http://www.mired.org/consulting.html
Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.


How create PDF bookmarks?

2005-09-11 Thread Leon Chen
I have tried 
---
In the LaTeX preamble write: \usepackage[bookmarks]{hyperref}
If you want the bookmarks numbered, load hyperref with the option:
"bookmarksnumbered=true"
If you want all bookmarks opened, load it with the option "bookmarksopen=true"
Here an example:

\usepackage[bookmarks, bookmarksopen=true, 
bookmarksnumbered=true]{hyperref}

---
 suggested on the wiki, also i search the archive, where the same suggestion.

but when i add them into the preamble, lots of errors appear during
the output, which will not happen if i clear the preamble

Anyone has the same problem? 


-- 
Leon Chen,
Imperial College, London

MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


escaping from MathEd in LyX 1.4

2005-09-11 Thread David Soukal

Hello,

I've been playing with LyX 1.4 for a while and it works great! The 
amount of work obviously put into it is incredible. Thank you guys!!


Despite the undeniable improvements, I noticed something a little bit 
annoying (hindering my quick typing :). I used to exit the MathEd by 
hitting ESC, upon which the cursor would be placed directly after the 
math box. I learned to use this over hitting the space key. (One space 
would be needed to quit a fraction, another to quit MathEd and yet 
another to type a space after the math. Other times, two spaces would do...)


For some unknown reason, ESC now places the cursor *before* the math 
box. I find it a bit illogical since I don't see a reason why the cursor 
should be placed before something I just typed.


Also, the cursor in MathEd seems to be working oddly. For example, after 
typying \frac, I get the fraction; however the cursor is placed *after* 
the fraction as opposed to the numerator.


Is this behavior customizable? Is it an error or a feature? :)

Thanks,

David


OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

2005-09-11 Thread Peter Flynn

Jose' Matos wrote:

On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:23, Peter Flynn wrote:


2. yum install lyx.


Aaaaggghhh! *Never*, never, never do this if you already have TeX.
Especially not if you have already carefully removed the outdated mess
that is the RH kludge of tetex, and replaced it with the real tetex from
the TeX Collection DVD.


  If you do that you are on your own. 


No, RH is on its own. Posters to c.t.t have consistently told users
of the RH tetex RPMs to trash them and replace them with the TUG CDs.


One other possibility is to redo the tetex rpm and then yum will work.


The TeX community has been trying for years to get whoever is
responsible for the RH tetex RPMs to update them properly. But they 
insist on meddling with the directories and the subset of features

apparently deliberately to make it inconsistent with the TUG CDs.  I
have no idea why they insist on doing this.

  What are the problems you have with FC tetex package? 


It was out of date last time I looked. I have consistently told my users 
never to install it but always to use the TUG CDs instead. For FC4 I 
didn't even bother looking at it, just ripped it out immediately the OS

was installed (http://silmaril.ie/cgi-bin/blog#fc4).

If it has been updated, then the foregoing does not apply, and I owe the
maintainer an apology.


Have you reported it to bugzilla.redhat.com?


I believe people have tried, but BugZilla is virtually useless: all it
does is provide a talking-shop for the packagers to explain why they
won't change. I have reports and requests in for various pieces of s/w
pending for years, and all the authors do is talk.

One other possibility would be to package that version and replace the 
require in lyx rpm from tetex to tex...


All that's required is for the maintainer of the tetex RPMs to use 
up-to-date versions from CTAN, and for the author of the embedded 
install script in the LyX RPM to test for a working kpsewhich instead

of assuming it's in the location the RH tetex RPMs install it.

Sorry for the OT flak, but I've been supporting TeX for 20 years, and
the inconsistencies of the RH tetex RPMs are the biggest headache we
have.

I suggest we don't pursue this here but move it offline.

///Peter


Re: drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

2005-09-11 Thread Peter Flynn

Pol wrote:

Hi,

I was not able to copy a file by drag and drop from konqueror into the 
lyx editor, since the non-ascii character in the file name (an accented 
letter, in my case) is erased during the procedure.

Is it possible to fix that?


Non-ASCII characters in URIs should not be used unencoded.

I don't know who is at fault here: the page author for publishing a page
with a non-ASCII character in the URI, or Konq for passing it on (or
not, as the case may be); hardly LyX, unless it was LyX that elided it.

I do not know if it is a lyx or kde related issue, so i am sending to 
both discussion forums.


Tell the author to change the name of the file to use ASCII characters, 
and all will be well. If they argue, tell them to read RFC 2396, eg

http://www.gbiv.com/protocols/uri/rfc/rfc2396.html#rfc.section.2.1

///Peter


Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

2005-09-11 Thread Stephen P. Harris


- Original Message - 
From: "Jose' Matos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 5:09 AM
Subject: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs


On Saturday 10 September 2005 17:56, Stephen P. Harris wrote:

Well, I installed LyX with yum install lyx on FC4.
But that installs 1.3.5 by default.


 No it does not. :-)
 The version available in extras is 1.3.6. There was some miscommunication
previously and that was why only 1.3.5 was available, for the last 2 weeks
this has been solved.

 If there is any problem with yum provided version in FC-[345] please 
report

it here and I will have a look a push the fixes to Fedora Extras.

--
José Abílio

I installed Lyx more than two weeks ago on FC4 using yum and
knew it was just a matter of time before the repository was updated.
Later in the thread, Peter Flynn mentioned that he used yum to
install Lyx and I could tell the Lyx files had been updated to 1.3.6.
But that was just after I downloaded and installed rpms from the
internet to provide Lyx 1.3.6 which gets around overwriting his
previously installed tugboat tetex live install by yum. Peter did that
with -nodeps which could extend past the tetex dependency, I think,
because one probably still needs latex-xft-fonts. Peter's current email
description needs clarifying to serve as newcomer documentation.
(Intended to benefit newish others reading this, not pointed at Peter.)

Anyway, Peter approved of yum's design (provides a warning) and
making a Dsl connection on FC4 is maybe easier than with Win XP.
I notice rpmfind has "NEW" to distinguish updates, which is nice.

LibAiksaurus-1.2.so.0 tambien,
Stephen




Re: Simple questions.

2005-09-11 Thread Roy Schestowitz

_/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 22:14:14 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_


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1) Has anyone done a layout file for unixman.sty? Google didn't turn
  one up, nor did google turn up an archive of LyX layout files.



I have not come across it. Do you strictly need that specific style? It is
usually easy to manipulate existing ones to suit your requirements.



2) I know this has to have been discussed to death - probably
  repeatedly - but I couldn't seem to find the right query to tickle
  google or the list archives into kicking it up. Could someone
  provide a pointer to a rational for going with a single window
  instead of the far more common multiple window approach? Or even tabs?

Thanks,



I think I am following your point here. It is just slightly hard-to-follow,
which must be the reason no (constructive) replies have yet been sent. 
You must

be speaking about fragmented windows, e.g. Character, Paragraph, etc. I fully
agree; it is one of my wishlist features. With a dual-head display it is easy
to have everything in sight, but it is otherwise very laborious. Kicking up a
new window just to change the font size of a single letter can be rather
frustrating.

Again I would stress that improvement of the type Mike suggested would be
greatly appreciated.

Best wishes,

Roy

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Re: drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

2005-09-11 Thread Angus Leeming
Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was not able to copy a file by drag and drop from konqueror into
>> the lyx editor, since the non-ascii character in the file name (an
>> accented letter, in my case) is erased during the procedure.
>> Is it possible to fix that?
>>
>> I do not know if it is a lyx or kde related issue, so i am sending to
>> both discussion forums.
>>
>> thank you

This is almost certainly caused by a mismatch in font encodings used by the
two apps. Everything in konqueror is encoded in UTF-8. LyX understands
Latin-1.

Angus

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Re: drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

2005-09-11 Thread Roy Schestowitz

_/ On Sun 11 Sep 2005 12:18:31 BST, [Pol] wrote : \_


Hi,

I was not able to copy a file by drag and drop from konqueror into
the lyx editor, since the non-ascii character in the file name (an
accented letter, in my case) is erased during the procedure.
Is it possible to fix that?

I do not know if it is a lyx or kde related issue, so i am sending to
both discussion forums.

thank you

--pol


Hi Pol,

Things appear to work fine when I copy accented text (tried Sørtun and
Levänen)
from Mozilla Firefox to LyX directly. Konqueror is inferior in terms of
language support (Firefox can display Chinese, Arabic, Thai, etc.), so I
suggest you try Firefox.

Sometimes I find myself having to copy and paste text from Konqueror to KWrite
(or KEdit) and then copy it to LyX from that intermediate application.
It tends
to be a little fragile, but Firefox is more robust than most alternatives.

If the above suggestion does not work, save the Web page and copy text
from the
source (X)HTML or import it into LyX as is.

If all fails, begin to question the capabilities of your Linux distribution.

Hope it helps,

Roy

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Re: "open" for Unix.

2005-09-11 Thread Jose' Matos
On Sunday 11 September 2005 05:38, Mike Meyer wrote:
>
> My instructions didn't include enough information about this. You need
> Python 2.4. The subprocess module was introduced in that. I can
> rewrite the code using pre-2.4 tools if this causes enough people
> problems.

  If you are proposing this for inclusion in to lyx then we are going for a 
dependency of lyx 1.5 on python 2.2.

>   Thank you for the feedback,
>   

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

2005-09-11 Thread Jose' Matos
On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:23, Peter Flynn wrote:
> > 2. yum install lyx.
>
> Aaaaggghhh! *Never*, never, never do this if you already have TeX.
> Especially not if you have already carefully removed the outdated mess
> that is the RH kludge of tetex, and replaced it with the real tetex from
> the TeX Collection DVD.

  If you do that you are on your own. One other possibility is to redo the 
tetex rpm and then yum will work.

  What are the problems you have with FC tetex package? Have you reported it 
to bugzilla.redhat.com?

  One other possibility would be to package that version and replace the 
require in lyx rpm from tetex to tex...
-- 
José Abílio


Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

2005-09-11 Thread Jose' Matos
On Saturday 10 September 2005 17:56, Stephen P. Harris wrote:
> Well, I installed LyX with yum install lyx on FC4.
> But that installs 1.3.5 by default.

  No it does not. :-)
  The version available in extras is 1.3.6. There was some miscommunication 
previously and that was why only 1.3.5 was available, for the last 2 weeks 
this has been solved.

  If there is any problem with yum provided version in FC-[345] please report 
it here and I will have a look a push the fixes to Fedora Extras.

-- 
José Abílio


drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

2005-09-11 Thread Pol

Hi,

I was not able to copy a file by drag and drop from konqueror into the 
lyx editor, since the non-ascii character in the file name (an accented 
letter, in my case) is erased during the procedure.

Is it possible to fix that?

I do not know if it is a lyx or kde related issue, so i am sending to 
both discussion forums.


thank you

--pol