Re: "intersectingStaticSet" message with 1.5.0rc1 (linux)

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Richard Heck wrote:
> Yes, I've seen it a lot. It has to do with Qt dialogs, but I'm not sure
> what.

AFAIK it's a bug with the qt file dialog of a given version. It's fixed in 
newer versions of qt (search for that message in Google for details).

Jürgen

Re: anyone use LyX for docbook?

[David Koski]

On Thursday 07 June 2007 16:34, José Matos wrote:
> On Thursday 07 June 2007 18:47:18 David Koski wrote:
> > I am looking for information on how to apply Lyx to produce
> > DocBook documents.  A simple example with a floating figure
> > with a cross-reference would help.  The above scenario should be
> > trivial but I have spent more time than I care to admit trying to
> > achieve it.  Google and man pages are my sources but information
> > specific to Lyx as applied to DocBook is scarce.  In the end,
> > it looks like it might be incomplete or broken.
>
>   I do use lyx with docbook. I have implemented most of the code as well. I
> have failed in the sense that I have not been able to attract new
> developers to the wagon. :-)
>
>   One of the areas where lyx-docbook is missing is certainly the
> documentation. If it were now I would start with the wiki (there was no
> wiki in 1999/2000).
>
>   In the process I have developed new tools to work around some of the
> deficiencies in LyX and docbook. lyx2lyx was one of those tools (the part
> used now to convert between different lyx file format versions). :-)
>
>   Recently my attention has been focused into coordinating the release of
> lyx 1.5.0 so not much time to lyx-docbook. :-(

A simple example of a book with floating figures using cross references
that work would have helped immensely.  Maybe I'll revisit Lyx for DocBook
in the future but for now, my time budget is spent.

Thank You,
David

Re: "intersectingStaticSet" message with 1.5.0rc1 (linux)

[Richard Heck]

Jim Rockford wrote:
When running 1.5.0 release candidate 1 on linux (Fedora Core 5, both 
32 bit

or 64 bit) I get the warning message

"intersectingStaticSet: row X was invalid"

where X is some integer.  This message appears something like 30 times in
succession, X ranging from 1 to 30.

I suspect this must be a warning from QT, and not Lyx's fault, but I'm
curious to know if any other Linux users see this
annoying message and whether I can do anything about it.  I am using the
latest QT4 packages available from the Fedora Core
repositories.
Yes, I've seen it a lot. It has to do with Qt dialogs, but I'm not sure 
what.


rh


Thanks,
Jim




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"intersectingStaticSet" message with 1.5.0rc1 (linux)

[Jim Rockford]

When running 1.5.0 release candidate 1 on linux (Fedora Core 5, both 32 bit
or 64 bit) I get the warning message

"intersectingStaticSet: row X was invalid"

where X is some integer.  This message appears something like 30 times in
succession, X ranging from 1 to 30.

I suspect this must be a warning from QT, and not Lyx's fault, but I'm
curious to know if any other Linux users see this
annoying message and whether I can do anything about it.  I am using the
latest QT4 packages available from the Fedora Core
repositories.

Thanks,
Jim

Re: Merging lyx documents (can version tracking be abbused for this)

[Todd Denniston]

Micha Feigin wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:06:44 +0200
Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]

[...]

To really save work here, learn to use the changetracking feature.
Then show your coworker LyX, perhaps he'll be impressed enough
to use it - you can then pass LyX documents back and forth
using changetracking. LyX will not prevent him from using LaTeX,
he may still apply all tricks he knows using ERT.



I can probably push lyx on her. The two problems are that we do a lot of work
for journals and conferences and most of them use all kinds of wierd document
styles which can make things a little auckward occationally.

The actual issue here won't be solved though by the default change tracking
implementation. What I need is a way to work in parrallel on the same version
and then merge the changes.

I see two proposed enhancements here at the moment.
1. Allow the change tracking system produce a three way merge (not sure how
difficult)
2. Allow using an existing lyx layout with just changing the latex style file.

It will be nice if someone else is interested enough, otherwise, I'm hoping to
have some time in about 3-4 months to start amusing myself with this.



You might be able to solve your problems by changing your procedures a little.
You are working on a document in parallel...
Answer the following questions:
1) Can the document be broken up in to chapters/sections?
2) Are the two of you _normally_ working on the same chapter/section?
3) Are you adverse to having a master document that pulls in sub-documents?
4) Are you on windows or Unix? (determines some of the other tools that would 
be suggested.)



if (1) is  yes, then if you can create the outline of the document this will 
put physical "space" in the document between your changes, this makes using 
things like patch, rcs and CVS easier.


if (2) is yes, then likely the current tools can't help. if (2) is no then 
tools like patch, rcs and CVS can make your lives a little easier, with 
communication and practice.


if (3) is no, using the tools already mentioned becomes a lot easier.

if (4) is Unix, you probably already have the tools you need. if (4) is 
windows, we (the group) can probably guide you in finding _some_ of the tools 
to make things work better [CVSNT].


Folks in the group have tackled multiple people working on the same document a 
few times already.


Or did I misread your desire here?
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Re: Lyx to Docbook

[José Matos]

On Tuesday 22 May 2007 23:41:15 Lars Olesen wrote:
> It is not available on my clean install. How can I install missin
> document classes on Windows Vista.
>
> > > - and the other way around?
> >
> > File>Import>DocBook
>
> Guess, it wont appear until document class is installed.

  The configuration searches for one program called either sgmltools or 
db2dvi. The presence of those tools in the systems shows. I know that this is 
a limitation but it should be easy to lift.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: anyone use lyx for docbook?

[José Matos]

On Thursday 07 June 2007 18:47:18 David Koski wrote:
> I am looking for information on how to apply Lyx to produce
> DocBook documents.  A simple example with a floating figure
> with a cross-reference would help.  The above scenario should be
> trivial but I have spent more time than I care to admit trying to
> achieve it.  Google and man pages are my sources but information
> specific to Lyx as applied to DocBook is scarce.  In the end,
> it looks like it might be incomplete or broken.

  I do use lyx with docbook. I have implemented most of the code as well. I 
have failed in the sense that I have not been able to attract new developers 
to the wagon. :-)

  One of the areas where lyx-docbook is missing is certainly the 
documentation. If it were now I would start with the wiki (there was no wiki 
in 1999/2000).

  In the process I have developed new tools to work around some of the 
deficiencies in LyX and docbook. lyx2lyx was one of those tools (the part 
used now to convert between different lyx file format versions). :-)

  Recently my attention has been focused into coordinating the release of lyx 
1.5.0 so not much time to lyx-docbook. :-(

> Best Regards,
> David Koski
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Merging lyx documents (can version tracking be abbused for this)

[Micha Feigin]

On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:06:44 +0200
Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I have an imported tex->lyx document that I changed and now the original
> > (tex) was also changed by the original author
> > What is the best (or easiest) way to merge these changes?
> > AFAIK gui diff programs are sensitive to line breaks and will probably get
> > things wrong. Is it possible to abbuse the lyx change tracking mechanism
> > somehow to do this? (can it be used to merge changes done on a different
> > copy of the document instead of just on the current one?)
> >   
> The change tracking does not really help you with the editing operations.
> 
[...]
> 
> To really save work here, learn to use the changetracking feature.
> Then show your coworker LyX, perhaps he'll be impressed enough
> to use it - you can then pass LyX documents back and forth
> using changetracking. LyX will not prevent him from using LaTeX,
> he may still apply all tricks he knows using ERT.
> 

I can probably push lyx on her. The two problems are that we do a lot of work
for journals and conferences and most of them use all kinds of wierd document
styles which can make things a little auckward occationally.

The actual issue here won't be solved though by the default change tracking
implementation. What I need is a way to work in parrallel on the same version
and then merge the changes.

I see two proposed enhancements here at the moment.
1. Allow the change tracking system produce a three way merge (not sure how
difficult)
2. Allow using an existing lyx layout with just changing the latex style file.

It will be nice if someone else is interested enough, otherwise, I'm hoping to
have some time in about 3-4 months to start amusing myself with this.

> Helge Hafting
> 

Re: Dock widgets

[Richard Heck]

Sam Lewis wrote:

LyX is great! And the recent developments are indeed very impressive. Thanks to
the whole development team and supporters.

I'm particularly taken by the new outliner being implemented as dock widget.
Thanks Able!

Abdel.

By gone the "labourous" days of shifting windows back and forth,
the drudgery of organising visibility. Perhaps this steep leap forward, could be
our "visionary concept" for reorganising  *find/replace* as well as the
*spellchecker*, without great effort, neatly docking our widgets.
  

There's a plan to make every dialog box a widget, with which you can then do as 
you wish. Whether that will get done for 1.6 is not yet clear.

Richard



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Dock widgets

[Sam Lewis]

LyX is great! And the recent developments are indeed very impressive. Thanks to
the whole development team and supporters.

I'm particularly taken by the new outliner being implemented as dock widget.
Thanks Able! By gone the "labourous" days of shifting windows back and forth,
the drudgery of organising visibility. Perhaps this steep leap forward, could be
our "visionary concept" for reorganising  *find/replace* as well as the
*spellchecker*, without great effort, neatly docking our widgets.


In in the highest anticipation -- Cheers, Sam

Re: LyX-1.5.0 Release Candidate 1 on Mac PPC: Speed issues (solution?)

[Bennett Helm]

On Jun 7, 2007, at 2:20 PM, Richard Heck wrote:


Bennett Helm wrote:
If any of you are compiling your own versions of LyX, please  
compare the new version I've just posted against the version you  
compiled. Is one noticeably faster than the other?
And remember that compiling svn with the defaults compiles in a lot  
of debugging information that can slow it down considerably. That  
isn't true of rc1, or shouldn't be, but you might want to check  
your configure settings, too.


Don't worry -- I'm stripping all that out to make it as fast as  
possible (and those configure settings are specified in the  
INSTALL.MacOSX file). The trouble is that when cross-compiling with  
the same configure settings, the PPC version is much slower.


Bennett

Re: Conversion problems

[Richard Heck]

Elaina wrote:
I'm working on a project with several other people, and one of them 
prefers

to mark up everything by hand and sends me .tex files.

One of the files she sent me I attempted to import into LyX, but I 
received

only an unhelpful error message. I tried removing the preamble. No help.
Eventually, I pasted her code (minus the preamble) into an ERT box. 
LyX made
a PS out of it without complaint. So then I merged pieces of it in 
with the
LyX file that I need to merge it with, using ERT's. Tedious, but 
possible.

LyX had no complaints about making a PS. Then, I took the merged LyX file
and exported it as TeX, because that is how I'm going to need to send it
back to her. Curious if that might have smoothed things out, I 
attempted to
convert that back to LyX, and LyX once again choked with an unhelpful 
error

message. That's right. LyX is refusing to import a TeX file it exported
seconds ago.

Any ideas on how to fix this problem?
Delete the second half of the tex file. Will LyX import that? If so, add 
half of what you deleted, etc, and figure out where the problem is. Then 
send the file to the list, if you can, or privately to a developer (me, 
if you like), so we can figure out what the issue is.


What "unhelpful" message are you getting?

Richard

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Re: LyX-1.5.0 Release Candidate 1 on Mac PPC: Speed issues (solution?)

[Richard Heck]

Bennett Helm wrote:
If any of you are compiling your own versions of LyX, please compare 
the new version I've just posted against the version you compiled. Is 
one noticeably faster than the other? 
And remember that compiling svn with the defaults compiles in a lot of 
debugging information that can slow it down considerably. That isn't 
true of rc1, or shouldn't be, but you might want to check your configure 
settings, too.


Richard

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Re: docbook and graphics within floating figure

[David Koski]

On Thursday 07 June 2007 11:10, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, David Koski wrote:
> > I take it the docbook XML feature of Lyx is seldom if ever used.
>
> I have asked several times and also tried several times. Others have asked
> about it several times.
>
> Nobody has stated that it works. Nobody has shared how to do it.
>
> The documentation on the web is out-dated or wrong.
>
> LyX should remove any references about using DocBook from its official
> documentation and remove any references to DocBook. It is misleading.
>
>   Jeremy C. Reed
>
> p.s. If LyX can do DocBook, that would be great. I have a 200-page book
> and I am keeping both a LyX version and a DocBook version in sync. It
> would be a great time saver if I could just work on one copy -- in DocBook
> using LyX.

Thank you Jeremy.  I will proceed with LaTeX.

Regards,
David

Re: margins change by decimal values

[Richard Heck]

pol wrote:

I have noticed that, if lyx is started from a terminal where LANG="it" has
been set, margins cannot be changed by non-integer values. 


As /etc/environment with LANG="en" is sourced, lyx allows for non integer
changes (in cm units).
Notice that, as non integer margins have been set, editing the same doc by
lyx, in the LANG='it' environment do not change margins in the final pdf
form, but only the integer part is displayed in the document settings
panel, while trying to change the decimal part of margins is ineffective. 


Any idea?
  
Please fine this at bugzilla.lyx.org. Sounds like a bug. You might also 
test it with 1.5.RC1, if you haven't.


Richard


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Re: docbook and graphics within floating figure

[Jeremy C. Reed]

On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, David Koski wrote:

> I take it the docbook XML feature of Lyx is seldom if ever used.

I have asked several times and also tried several times. Others have asked 
about it several times.

Nobody has stated that it works. Nobody has shared how to do it.

The documentation on the web is out-dated or wrong.

LyX should remove any references about using DocBook from its official 
documentation and remove any references to DocBook. It is misleading.

  Jeremy C. Reed

p.s. If LyX can do DocBook, that would be great. I have a 200-page book 
and I am keeping both a LyX version and a DocBook version in sync. It 
would be a great time saver if I could just work on one copy -- in DocBook 
using LyX.

anyone use lyx for docbook?

[David Koski]

I am looking for information on how to apply Lyx to produce
DocBook documents.  A simple example with a floating figure
with a cross-reference would help.  The above scenario should be
trivial but I have spent more time than I care to admit trying to
achieve it.  Google and man pages are my sources but information
specific to Lyx as applied to DocBook is scarce.  In the end,
it looks like it might be incomplete or broken.

Best Regards,
David Koski
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Conversion problems

[Elaina]

I'm working on a project with several other people, and one of them prefers
to mark up everything by hand and sends me .tex files.

One of the files she sent me I attempted to import into LyX, but I received
only an unhelpful error message. I tried removing the preamble. No help.
Eventually, I pasted her code (minus the preamble) into an ERT box. LyX made
a PS out of it without complaint. So then I merged pieces of it in with the
LyX file that I need to merge it with, using ERT's. Tedious, but possible.
LyX had no complaints about making a PS. Then, I took the merged LyX file
and exported it as TeX, because that is how I'm going to need to send it
back to her. Curious if that might have smoothed things out, I attempted to
convert that back to LyX, and LyX once again choked with an unhelpful error
message. That's right. LyX is refusing to import a TeX file it exported
seconds ago.

Any ideas on how to fix this problem?

Thanks.

margins change by decimal values

[pol]

I have noticed that, if lyx is started from a terminal where LANG="it" has
been set, margins cannot be changed by non-integer values. 

As /etc/environment with LANG="en" is sourced, lyx allows for non integer
changes (in cm units).
Notice that, as non integer margins have been set, editing the same doc by
lyx, in the LANG='it' environment do not change margins in the final pdf
form, but only the integer part is displayed in the document settings
panel, while trying to change the decimal part of margins is ineffective. 

Any idea?


thank you 

--
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Re: moving to linux...

[Ares]

Thanks all for the advices, I don't even attach the last mails cause
they are too many! anyway I tried the three programs you suggested
(adoberead, kpdf and xpdf) and I really can't tell which works best
...
I'll check for trutype fonts installations on ubuntu later: I have to
install LyX first (so I am afraid that the "moving to linux..." will
become a series!)

Thank you all again
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Re: docbook and graphics within floating figure

[David Koski]

I worked arround the errors by writing a script that cleaned
the xml output of Lyx such that it changed "inlinemediaobject"
instances to "mediaobject".  Furthermore, I had to create floating
figures with the title on top instead of the bottom.  Also,
'lang="en_US"' had to be changed to 'lang="en"'.

I take it the docbook XML feature of Lyx is seldom if ever used.

Regards,
David Koski
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wednesday 06 June 2007 08:12, David Koski wrote:
> I am a new Lyx user using Debian 4.0, Lyx 1.4.3 and am trying to insert
> a graphic image within a floating figure in a Docbook (xml) document.
> My "Document Class" is set to "DocBook book (SGML)" and I am exporting
> to "Docbook (XML)" but I get errors:
>
> book.xml:16:18:E: document type does not allow element "inlinemediaobject"
> here; assuming missing "title" start-tag
> openjade:/home/users/dkoski/cvs/sutinen/doc/backup-with-bru-book/book.xml:2
>8:20:E: document type does not allow element "title" here
> openjade:/home/users/dkoski/cvs/sutinen/doc/backup-with-bru-book/book.xml:2
>8:70:E: end tag for "title" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified
>
> My first line of defense (google and man pages) was to no avail.  In fact
> I found very little information that was relevant except for how to do
> what I had already done.  By trial and error (and examining the xml output
> of Lyx) I found that I could insert a graphic successfully outside a
> floating figure if I appended a label.  The same method failed for floating
> figures.  I found it odd that this seemingly trivial task would be so
> difficult to achieve.  If the two problems are related, I suspect it has
> to do with the placement of a para tag.  But this really has me stumped.
>
> The Lyx code is below followed by xml exported output from Lyx.
>
> Any help appreciated,
> David Koski
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> #LyX 1.4.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
> \lyxformat 245
> \begin_document
> \begin_header
> \textclass docbook-book
> \language english
> \inputencoding auto
> \fontscheme default
> \graphics default
> \paperfontsize default
> \spacing single
> \papersize default
> \use_geometry false
> \use_amsmath 1
> \cite_engine basic
> \use_bibtopic false
> \paperorientation portrait
> \secnumdepth 3
> \tocdepth 3
> \paragraph_separation indent
> \defskip medskip
> \quotes_language english
> \papercolumns 1
> \papersides 1
> \paperpagestyle default
> \tracking_changes false
> \output_changes false
> \end_header
>
> \begin_body
>
> \begin_layout Title
> My Book
> \end_layout
>
> \begin_layout Chapter
> My Chapter
> \end_layout
>
> \begin_layout Standard
> This is my chapter.
> \end_layout
>
> \begin_layout Standard
> Text here.
> \end_layout
>
> \begin_layout Standard
> \begin_inset Float figure
> wide false
> sideways false
> status open
>
> \begin_layout Title
> my title
> \end_layout
>
> \begin_layout Standard
> \begin_inset Graphics
>   filename gimp_screenshot.eps
>
> \end_inset
>
>
> \end_layout
>
> \begin_layout Caption
> \begin_inset LatexCommand \label{mylabel}
>
> \end_inset
>
>
> \end_layout
>
> \end_inset
>
> mycaption
> \end_layout
>
> \begin_layout Standard
> More text.
> \end_layout
>
> \end_body
> \end_document
>
>
> 
>  "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd"; [
>  ]>
>
> 
> 
> 
> My Book
> 
> My Chapter
> Hi.
> This is my chapter.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  role="bmp"/>  >myfig Text here.
> More text.

LyX-1.5.0 Release Candidate 1 on Mac PPC: Speed issues (solution?)

[Bennett Helm]

This note is for PPC Mac users only. (Intel Macs are not affected by  
this.)


LyX-1.5.0 RC 1 for Mac was originally released as a universal binary,  
and that release was quite slow for PPC Macs. I have just posted a  
new version that should improve speed on PPC Macs, and I'd like for  
people experiencing speed issues with the original release to try  
this one instead. It can be found here:




If you're willing to test, please report on the following:

1. Do you experience a lag between what you type and when it appears  
on screen with this new version? Please try this in normal text as  
well as in insets, like footnotes, and math and note environments.


2. If you do experience a typing lag, please provide some detail as  
to the circumstances you find it:

  * How big is your document?
  * Does it have equations? (Lots?)
  * Does it have figures? (Lots?)
  * When do you notice it most?

3. Provide some details about your computer: processor type (G3, G4,  
G5) and speed, Mac OS version, amount of RAM.


If any of you are compiling your own versions of LyX, please compare  
the new version I've just posted against the version you compiled. Is  
one noticeably faster than the other? (Try timing how long it takes  
to page down through the User's Guide, e.g. -- but do it twice,  
reporting the times from the second run for each version of LyX.)  
Also, please provide details of how you compiled LyX, including:

  * configure flags
  * Qt version

Thanks.

Bennett

Re: question on titlesec package

[Richard Heck]

Marcelo Acuña wrote:

Hello,
 I want to have giant chapter number in first page of
each chapter. I am using titlesec package and in
preamble I put:


\titleformat{\chapter}{display­}{\sffamily\Large\bfseries}
{\chaptertitlename\thechapter}­{4ex}{}{\titlerule}{} 


 but I don´t know how to get that chapter number
became very large.
  
Can't you do: \chaptertitlename {\Large\thechapter}? or something of the 
sort?


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Re: moving to linux...

[José Matos]

On Wednesday 06 June 2007 18:24:57 Richard Heck wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info! This is excellent.
>
> Richard

Richard since I know that you are using Fedora you can install them already:

# yum install liberation-fonts

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Re: about rc1

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Marcelo" == Marcelo Acuña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Marcelo> 5) I can see a lot of warning messages when I am compiling
Marcelo> lyx like this:

You can ignore these warnings.

JMarc

Re: moving to linux...

[Vaclav Smidl]

> *** On ubuntu it should be as easy as typing
> $ apt-get install lyx
> on the command line, or selecting lyx in synaptic and pressing apply
> button. (assuming that you are connected to the internet)
>
> I'll give it a try, but LyX is not on the Synaptic manager, as far as
> I can see (on Ubuntu 7.04)... is it of your (= the LyX developers)
> concern?

This depends on your repositories. LyX is in the "universe" repository. Do you 
have this one enabled?

>
> > When I view my old documents (i.e. the pdf files generated by LyX on
> > Windows) on Linux (Ubuntu 7.04) the quality is very bad. I guess this
> > is related to the installed fonts.
>
> *** can you be a little bit more specific? What exactly is bad?
> 1) bitmap fonts, as explained in http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/PDF#toc5
> 2) you use some special fonts that are not embedded in the final pdf.
> (cut)
> Pdf's, by definition, should not depend on any LyX files.
> Check http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/PDF and if you do not find a solution send a
> minimal example of your pdf.
>
>
> I thought that pdf, being a "portable document format", didn't need
> any special setting on the machine you use. Anyway you can view a
> sample pdf generated on my machine (BTW with pdflatex) at:
>
> http://ares001.altervista.org/job/downloads/dispense.pdf
>

This document looks fine in kpdf and acceptably in acrobat. Only the included 
bitmap figures are harder to read but that should be expected.  

Vasek