Re: a guide for get a 1.6.0 crash

[Guenter Milde]

On 2008-12-12, Marcelo Acuña wrote:

>  Have anyone same problem?

I did experience several crashes after undoing changes but did not bother to
investigate and report so far.

LyX 1.6.0 on Debian/testing

Günter

Override menu hotkeys?

[Christopher Menzel]

Greetings LyX users,

I'm using LyX 1.6 in a Linux virtual machine under OS X which uses the  
option key as the alt key.  (I also use the OS X version, of course.)   
I would like to have as many Emacs keybindings as possible in LyX, in  
particular, Alt-f to move forward by word, Alt-d to delete by word.   
However, even though I have defined my desired keybindings in the  
emacs.bind file, with the OS X keyboard, Alt-f still brings up the  
File menu and Alt-d the Document menu.  So, question: Is it possible  
to override this behavior, either in a LyX config file or some other  
config file, so that I can get the Emacsy behavior I long for?


Thanks.

Chris Menzel

Re: a guide for get a 1.6.0 crash

[Jens Noeckel]

Hi,
here's the recipe for another similar crash:
1) New doc (article)
2) Choose layout: section,
3) Type "Results" (or some title)
4) Insert > URL
5) Edit > Undo (or keyboard shortcut)

Amazingly, this crashes LyX on the Mac!

It seems that the main ingredient is that we're trying to undo an  
insertion (in my case a URL), while there is also a section or  
subsection heading before the inset. If I replace the section layout  
by a normal paragraph in my short example, I don't get the crash. I  
reported an undo-related crash a long time ago and it was fixed - but  
this calls for a new bug report unless someone has already filed one.


Jens


On Dec 11, 2008, at 6:35 PM, Cameron Stone wrote:

I get similar behaviour when trying to undo changes in a table. It  
only
happens for me on the second ctrl-z. It doesn't seem happen when  
undoing

changes standard text.

Cameron.

Marcelo Acuña wrote:

hello,
 with opensuse and kde 4.1, qt 4.4.3:
 1) open a big doc like EmbeddedObject.lyx.
 2) at the end of a paragraph in the last chapter insert a footnote.
 3) write several words.
 4) press, and hold pressed, ctrl + z
 5) with lyx 1.6.0, and not with 1.5.7, I get a crash.
 6) with several pressed of ctrl + z I get a crash too.
 7) with a small file I have no problem.
 8) with lyx 1.5.7, I have no problem.

 Have anyone same problem?

Regards
Marcelo

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Re: a guide for get a 1.6.0 crash

[Cameron Stone]

I get similar behaviour when trying to undo changes in a table. It only
happens for me on the second ctrl-z. It doesn't seem happen when undoing
changes standard text.

Cameron.

Marcelo Acuña wrote:
> hello,
>  with opensuse and kde 4.1, qt 4.4.3:
>  1) open a big doc like EmbeddedObject.lyx.
>  2) at the end of a paragraph in the last chapter insert a footnote.
>  3) write several words.
>  4) press, and hold pressed, ctrl + z
>  5) with lyx 1.6.0, and not with 1.5.7, I get a crash.
>  6) with several pressed of ctrl + z I get a crash too.
>  7) with a small file I have no problem.
>  8) with lyx 1.5.7, I have no problem.
> 
>  Have anyone same problem?
> 
> Regards
> Marcelo
> 
> Marcelo Acuña visitá mi sitio web http://www.aleph-uno.com.ar 
> ==
> 
> 
>   
> 
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a guide for get a 1.6.0 crash

[Marcelo Acuña]

hello,
 with opensuse and kde 4.1, qt 4.4.3:
 1) open a big doc like EmbeddedObject.lyx.
 2) at the end of a paragraph in the last chapter insert a footnote.
 3) write several words.
 4) press, and hold pressed, ctrl + z
 5) with lyx 1.6.0, and not with 1.5.7, I get a crash.
 6) with several pressed of ctrl + z I get a crash too.
 7) with a small file I have no problem.
 8) with lyx 1.5.7, I have no problem.

 Have anyone same problem?

Regards
Marcelo

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Re: Custom Bibliography

[Konrad Hofbauer]

Luca De Marini wrote:

In Document>Settings>Bibliography, choose "Natbib" and then "Numerical" for
"Natbib Style". Then, in Document>Settings>Document Class, under Class
Options, Custom, put the word: super.



Yes, uhm, but once I set all of this, and I've done it, what do I do next? I
mean, how do I achieve my goal?



That said, your girlfriend really should use a BibTeX editor. I can't
myself get this working without doing it that way. Download JabRef for her.
It's /very/ easy to use.



I'll try but I believe that won't do what she needs I mean, putting some
kind of note next to words here and there and see the corresponding
bibliography entry at the end of the book / chapter...


You underestimate the power and magic of LateX and LyX. ;)

What Richard wrote you, will exactly give you what you want. This is not 
an uncommon need at all.


/Konrad

Re: Custom Bibliography

[rgheck]

Luca De Marini wrote:



In Document>Settings>Bibliography, choose "Natbib" and then
"Numerical" for "Natbib Style". Then, in
Document>Settings>Document Class, under Class Options, Custom, put
the word: super.


Yes, uhm, but once I set all of this, and I've done it, what do I do 
next? I mean, how do I achieve my goal?


The setting "super" makes natbib print the references the way you want. 
With raised numbers linked to bibliography entries. Try it. Or just see 
the attached PDF.


 



That said, your girlfriend really should use a BibTeX editor. I
can't myself get this working without doing it that way. Download
JabRef for her. It's /very/ easy to use.


I'll try but I believe that won't do what she needs I mean, 
putting some kind of note next to words here and there and see the 
corresponding bibliography entry at the end of the book / chapter...


No, this has nothing to do with what she needs. BibTeX is just a more 
convenient way to organize the references.


Richard



super.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: Custom Bibliography

[Luca De Marini]

>
> In Document>Settings>Bibliography, choose "Natbib" and then "Numerical" for
> "Natbib Style". Then, in Document>Settings>Document Class, under Class
> Options, Custom, put the word: super.
>

Yes, uhm, but once I set all of this, and I've done it, what do I do next? I
mean, how do I achieve my goal?


>
> That said, your girlfriend really should use a BibTeX editor. I can't
> myself get this working without doing it that way. Download JabRef for her.
> It's /very/ easy to use.
>
>
I'll try but I believe that won't do what she needs I mean, putting some
kind of note next to words here and there and see the corresponding
bibliography entry at the end of the book / chapter...

Luca

Re: Custom Bibliography

[rgheck]

In Document>Settings>Bibliography, choose "Natbib" and then "Numerical" 
for "Natbib Style". Then, in Document>Settings>Document Class, under 
Class Options, Custom, put the word: super.


That said, your girlfriend really should use a BibTeX editor. I can't 
myself get this working without doing it that way. Download JabRef for 
her. It's /very/ easy to use.


rh


Luca De Marini wrote:

Hallo everyone, first post :)
I use Lyx since quite a lot now and I really love it, though my girlfriend
found problems usin it, since she has to create a bibliography.
I know you'd tell me to use bibtex or something like that but:
1) I don't know how to use those database based bibliography tools, nor have
time to learn, plus my girlfriend is an informatic dumb.
2) She hasn't common necessities..
What she needs is this:

In the text, somewhere she should be able to put a umber over a word, like
when you use a common note in Lyx. Now, the text in the note should not be
displayed on the end of the page or on the side... it should instead be
shown on the end of the document or of the chapter. That's her problem. She
needs a way to achieve this. For example, int he document, she would like to
put a number "1" over a word, then maybe over another word in another page,
etc... and at the end of the document, find a number "1" with her
bibliographic entry.

Don't ask me why she needs it, but she does. Her teachers whant the
bibliography to be written this way. MS Word can do it, Lyx cannot in my
experience. Why? Is there something I miss, can you tip me in any way
please? We really need a solution for that problem or Lyx is unusable for
her. Naturally, she cannot put the numbers by hand, or she would loose the
automated numbering feature of MS Word... like in notes for Lyx, in fact, if
you add a bibliography entry before the one tagged as number "1", the new
one becomes number "1" and the old one becomes automatically "2". So, the
automatism is of course necessary.

Ideas? Suggestions? Please help.
Also, if I didn't explain myself well, please ask me.
Greetings,

Luca D.M.

  

Re: A5 booklet

[Guenter Milde]

On 2008-12-11, A B wrote:

> I'm fiddeling around with settings to create a a5 booklet with the
> text as close as possible to the middle of the book.
> I use A4 paper, two column document, landscape orientation.
> But is there anything I can do to adjust the text to be closer to the middle?

Documentclass:  (KOMA-script)
(or any other document class + \usepackage{scrpage} in the LaTeX preamble)

Class Options Custom: BCOR-12mm 
% Replace 12mm with whatever is sensible in your case.

Page Layout: twoside

Günter

A5 booklet

[A B]

Hi.
I'm fiddeling around with settings to create a a5 booklet with the
text as close as possible to the middle of the book.
I use A4 paper, two column document, landscape orientation.
But is there anything I can do to adjust the text to be closer to the middle?
I will print the paper in a duplex printer.

Custom Bibliography

[Luca De Marini]

Hallo everyone, first post :)
I use Lyx since quite a lot now and I really love it, though my girlfriend
found problems usin it, since she has to create a bibliography.
I know you'd tell me to use bibtex or something like that but:
1) I don't know how to use those database based bibliography tools, nor have
time to learn, plus my girlfriend is an informatic dumb.
2) She hasn't common necessities..
What she needs is this:

In the text, somewhere she should be able to put a umber over a word, like
when you use a common note in Lyx. Now, the text in the note should not be
displayed on the end of the page or on the side... it should instead be
shown on the end of the document or of the chapter. That's her problem. She
needs a way to achieve this. For example, int he document, she would like to
put a number "1" over a word, then maybe over another word in another page,
etc... and at the end of the document, find a number "1" with her
bibliographic entry.

Don't ask me why she needs it, but she does. Her teachers whant the
bibliography to be written this way. MS Word can do it, Lyx cannot in my
experience. Why? Is there something I miss, can you tip me in any way
please? We really need a solution for that problem or Lyx is unusable for
her. Naturally, she cannot put the numbers by hand, or she would loose the
automated numbering feature of MS Word... like in notes for Lyx, in fact, if
you add a bibliography entry before the one tagged as number "1", the new
one becomes number "1" and the old one becomes automatically "2". So, the
automatism is of course necessary.

Ideas? Suggestions? Please help.
Also, if I didn't explain myself well, please ask me.
Greetings,

Luca D.M.

Re: Key Behavior Change in 1.6.0? -- FIXED

[rgheck]

Rich Shepard wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Jens Noeckel wrote:

sorry, somehow assumed you're on Mac when I was typing the file 
location.


You're forgiven. :-)

Anyway, once I realized that break-line doesn't work anymore, to find 
the

command name I browsed fin LyX' new menu, "LyX Preferences > Editing >
Shortcuts" searching for anything to do with "line" ... it didn't take
long to find the new command that way.


So, it's a LyX change and not a LaTeX terminology change. That's good to
know.


Now I recall there was also a problem with "Shift-rightarrow" and
"Shift-leftarrow" not selecting text (function called
char-forward-select). I think all I needed to do was put these shortcuts
back within that LyX menu.


I've made changes only in ~/.lyx/*.bind, not before in Edit->Preferences,
so I don't have a clue if the latter is something new. Wonder why key
bindings are specified in two places; it would make more sense to me 
if the

*.bind file was picked up and used rather than the menu leaf approach.

You can do it either way. The dialog just makes it easier for people who 
don't want to mess with text files.


rh

Re: Key Behavior Change in 1.6.0? -- FIXED

[rgheck]

Jens Noeckel wrote:


On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:


On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Jens Noeckel wrote:


I think I answered this on the list earlier,


Jens,

  Then I apologize for missing it.


... but anyway the solution is simple: In your custom bind file in the
directory ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-1.6/bind
just replace "break-line" by "newline-insert" - the command has 
changed.


  It's actually in ~/.lyx/bind/ and I changed all .bind files.

  How did you discover this change in function name?


All such things should be in the release notes.

Andre Poenitz has proposed we write some kind of bind2bind converter 
that would handle this kind of problem.


rh

Re: Key Behavior Change in 1.6.0? -- FIXED

[Rich Shepard]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Jens Noeckel wrote:


sorry, somehow assumed you're on Mac when I was typing the file location.


  You're forgiven. :-)


Anyway, once I realized that break-line doesn't work anymore, to find the
command name I browsed fin LyX' new menu, "LyX Preferences > Editing >
Shortcuts" searching for anything to do with "line" ... it didn't take
long to find the new command that way.


  So, it's a LyX change and not a LaTeX terminology change. That's good to
know.


Now I recall there was also a problem with "Shift-rightarrow" and
"Shift-leftarrow" not selecting text (function called
char-forward-select). I think all I needed to do was put these shortcuts
back within that LyX menu.


  I've made changes only in ~/.lyx/*.bind, not before in Edit->Preferences,
so I don't have a clue if the latter is something new. Wonder why key
bindings are specified in two places; it would make more sense to me if the
*.bind file was picked up and used rather than the menu leaf approach.

Thanks again,

Rich

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Re: Key Behavior Change in 1.6.0? -- FIXED

[Jens Noeckel]

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:


On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Jens Noeckel wrote:


I think I answered this on the list earlier,


Jens,

  Then I apologize for missing it.

... but anyway the solution is simple: In your custom bind file in  
the

directory ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-1.6/bind
just replace "break-line" by "newline-insert" - the command has  
changed.


  It's actually in ~/.lyx/bind/ and I changed all .bind files.

  How did you discover this change in function name?



Rich,
sorry, somehow assumed you're on Mac when I was typing the file  
location. Anyway, once I realized that break-line doesn't work  
anymore, to find the command name I browsed fin LyX' new menu,

"LyX Preferences > Editing >  Shortcuts"
searching for anything to do with "line" ... it didn't take long to  
find the new command that way. Now I recall there was also a problem  
with "Shift-rightarrow" and "Shift-leftarrow" not selecting text  
(function called char-forward-select). I think all I needed to do was  
put these shortcuts back within that LyX menu.


Jens

Re: Key Behavior Change in 1.6.0? -- FIXED

[Rich Shepard]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Jens Noeckel wrote:


I think I answered this on the list earlier,


Jens,

  Then I apologize for missing it.


... but anyway the solution is simple: In your custom bind file in the
directory ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-1.6/bind
just replace "break-line" by "newline-insert" - the command has changed.


  It's actually in ~/.lyx/bind/ and I changed all .bind files.

  How did you discover this change in function name?

Thanks,

Rich

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Re: Key Behavior Change in 1.6.0?

[Jens Noeckel]

On Dec 11, 2008, at 10:15 AM, rgheck wrote:


Rich Shepard wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, rgheck wrote:

Did you have a customized bind file before? If so, move or delete  
it. Lots

of problems like that.


rh,

I've been using this customized version of the emacs.bind file for  
about 8

years. It has not been modified since I upgraded the application.

That same binding is in the default cua.bind and emacs.bind. What  
would

you like me to try changing?

Hard to say. What often happens here is that you've got some  
binding in the file that LyX no longer recognizes, and this causes  
confusion. If you launch from a terminal, you might get some info.




Hi,
I think I answered this on the list earlier, but anyway the solution  
is simple:

In your custom bind file in the directory
~/Library/Application Support/LyX-1.6/bind
just replace "break-line" by "newline-insert" - the command has  
changed. I also use a modified emacs bind file so I had the same  
problem. Another annoying issue for me is that Ctrl-L no longer re- 
centers the screen as it does in emacs.  I reported this as a bug  
because there's actually a change in the function's action (as  
opposed to a mere renaming).


Jens

Re: Shortcut for Minisection

[rgheck]

Fritz Bein wrote:

Hi,

does anybody know if it is possible to assign a keyboard shortcut to 
the format "minisec" from the book class?



Yes. Just assign "layout minisec" to whatever key you like.

rh

Re: Key Behavior Change in 1.6.0?

[rgheck]

Rich Shepard wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, rgheck wrote:

Did you have a customized bind file before? If so, move or delete it. 
Lots

of problems like that.


rh,

I've been using this customized version of the emacs.bind file for 
about 8

years. It has not been modified since I upgraded the application.

That same binding is in the default cua.bind and emacs.bind. What would
you like me to try changing?

Hard to say. What often happens here is that you've got some binding in 
the file that LyX no longer recognizes, and this causes confusion. If 
you launch from a terminal, you might get some info.


rh

Shortcut for Minisection

[Fritz Bein]

Hi,

does anybody know if it is possible to assign a keyboard shortcut to the  
format "minisec" from the book class?


Kind regards, Fritz

Re: Key Behavior Change in 1.6.0?

[Rich Shepard]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, rgheck wrote:


Did you have a customized bind file before? If so, move or delete it. Lots
of problems like that.


rh,

  I've been using this customized version of the emacs.bind file for about 8
years. It has not been modified since I upgraded the application.

  That same binding is in the default cua.bind and emacs.bind. What would
you like me to try changing?

Rich

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Re: Key Behavior Change in 1.6.0?

[rgheck]

Rich Shepard wrote:

Just upgraded from 1.5.5 to 1.6.0 and started writing an article. To keep
lines together in a title I used to press Ctrl-Enter and would get a red
angle with the arrow head pointing left as the cursor moved down one 
line.

Now I get what appears to be a half-note symbol.

This must be user error, but I don't know what I might have inadvertently
changed. FWIW, I'm using the emacs key binding and in the edit group I 
see:


\bind "C-Return" "break-line"

Suggestions?

Did you have a customized bind file before? If so, move or delete it. 
Lots of problems like that.


rh

Key Behavior Change in 1.6.0?

[Rich Shepard]

  Just upgraded from 1.5.5 to 1.6.0 and started writing an article. To keep
lines together in a title I used to press Ctrl-Enter and would get a red
angle with the arrow head pointing left as the cursor moved down one line.
Now I get what appears to be a half-note symbol.

  This must be user error, but I don't know what I might have inadvertently
changed. FWIW, I'm using the emacs key binding and in the edit group I see:

\bind "C-Return""break-line"

  Suggestions?

Rich

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LyX/LateX solution for Industrial label/sticker?

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Hello,

I would like to automatically generate a sticker on an electronic 
device. Usual things like serial number, bar code, part number, etc. 
Does someone know of a LyX/LateX solution for this kind of things?


Thanks in advance,
Abdel.

Re: line breaks in tabulars

[Paul A. Rubin]

Pascal Schweizer wrote:


The suggested solution back then was: set the width of that
particular column to a fixed amount

Can anybody help me out how to do that in LaTex (example code)? I am
currently still using LaTex, not Lyx...



\begin{tabular}{p{3cm}c}
... table contents ...
\end{tabular}

creates a two column table and sets the first column's width to 3cm (and 
justifies the text).  To center the text, change the first line to


\begin{tabular}{>{\centering}p{3cm}c}

(use \raggedleft or \raggedright in lieu of \centering for other 
alignments).


Incidentally, an easy way to discover this, assuming you have LyX 
installed, is to start a new document in LyX, insert a table, tinker 
with it using the LyX table dialogs and then use View -> View Source to 
see what it looks like in LaTeX.


/Paul

Re: MacPort to get rtf2latex2e

[Konrad Hofbauer]

Joachim Kreimer-de Fries wrote:

Resolved !! both
- the installation problem of MacPorts 1.6 and
- the bug in rtf2latex2e on Mac-OSX-Intel.


Great! Thanks for working this out and reporting back!
/Konrad

Re: MacPort to get rtf2latex2e

[Joachim Kreimer-de Fries]

Resolved !! both
- the installation problem of MacPorts 1.6 and
- the bug in rtf2latex2e on Mac-OSX-Intel.

Am 10.12.2008 um 14:08 schrieb Konrad Hofbauer:

This list is the wrong place for this, ask at the Macports list.

I assume you ran the Installer, but something went wrong.


Thanks, on the macports-user list I got the help (and new bug fixing)  
of the macports maintainers.


rtf2latex2e is now working an my MacBook, both from command line as  
within LyX!


The decisive information for other LyX user on Mac-OSX:

- for bugfixing the macports-1.6 dmg/pkg:
http://trac.macports.org/wiki/ProblemHotlist#a.profilenotsetup

for getting the right rtf2latex2e port with macport:

Am 10.12.2008 um 23:49 schrieb Bryan Blackburn in the macports-users  
list on lists.macosforge.org:
Looks like rtf2latex2e's configure script can't handle proper  
detection on a
Mac normally, so a PowerPC fix was put in there; unfortunately,  
there wasn't
one for Intel, so I just added one in r43442.  At least 30 minutes  
after
I've written this email, do a 'sudo port sync' and 'sudo port clean  
--work

rtf2latex2e' then try installing it again.


Goutgaun! joachim
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